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1 hour ago, Ted Lange said:

I thought the flashback was in DC, didn't they show the US capitol?  I swear I saw it.   I assumed a dirty bomb had gone off in or near DC but obviously didn't destroy everything, but there is still radiation around, that is what they did a radiation scan when the congressman entered the restaurant 

It was in DC

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On 1/17/2025 at 11:58 AM, Ted Lange said:

I thought the flashback was in DC, didn't they show the US capitol?  I swear I saw it.   I assumed a dirty bomb had gone off in or near DC but obviously didn't destroy everything, but there is still radiation around, that is what they did a radiation scan when the congressman entered the restaurant 

I’ll start here. Not spoiler tagging any of this because it seems we aren’t doing that. Longcatish. 

 Opening shot did show the Capitol, and the sign behind their booth said Capitol tavern. 
 

just binged the season over the past 3-4 days, and just binged this thread’s 3 pages of content regarding same. 
 

maybe it’s because of the binging but I didn’t find the pacing to be overly slow, and I also didn’t mind the two simultaneous plot lines. Especially once they made it clear that basically it was a given that when a person doesn’t clean and walks off screen, that the inevitable consequence is a rebellion as the population wants to go out.  So you get that buildup, and you get Becky’s efforts to get back and stop it.  
 

So- why is there a safeguard?  And, the tunnel to let the gas in appears to be at a mid-level (solo said his mother worked the level they found on the schematic)? So it’s not the lower tunnel. But the voice at the lower tunnel talked about safeguard. 
 

I also wonder about how old the silos are. Epilogue scene is pointing at a general timeframe for initial silo population but that could easily be written around if they wanted to have had it start earlier or, especially, much later.  
 

midway through, I began wondering if rebellions always fail, or if sometimes they succeed but what happens is the caste system is upside down but over a few generations it resets itself in a Stanford prison experiment sort of way. 
 

Other questions- are all the silos similarly technologied and administered, or are there experimental differences?  It’s revealed that Romeo and Juliet has a different ending in S18 than it does in S17.  How many intentional differences are there, and to what end?

Agree on the local air possibly being poisoned purposefully to maintain silo order/as a condition of the experiment.  If they’d poison the inside to prevent a full breach, they’d poison the outside for the same reason.  How localized is it?  Is it actually in the process before the airlock is opened for a cleaner?  
 

anyway, was glad to read upthread that they are going to wrap it up in 2 seasons that are greenlit.  Hope that means they can work through the material to a solid conclusion, and that it won’t be years down the road.  
 

really makes the title stand out though considering it’s not just “a silo” but there’s a siloing of information, history, knowledge, and technology throughout. 

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35 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

So- why is there a safeguard?  And, the tunnel to let the gas in appears to be at a mid-level (solo said his mother worked the level they found on the schematic)? So it’s not the lower tunnel. But the voice at the lower tunnel talked about safeguard. 

No, the pipe that brings in the poison was as on 19 I think. I’m guessing that lower tunnel leads to whatever central Silo is controlling the other 50 (The DC of Silos), like a spoke and hub model 

The silos can’t be that far apart if RF walks to the other silo relatively quickly and they felt the explosion on level 91 of RF’s Silo while they were up on the IT level of Solo’s Silo 

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19 hours ago, Js1 said:

No, the pipe that brings in the poison was as on 19 I think. I’m guessing that lower tunnel leads to whatever central Silo is controlling the other 50 (The DC of Silos), like a spoke and hub model 

The silos can’t be that far apart if RF walks to the other silo relatively quickly and they felt the explosion on level 91 of RF’s Silo while they were up on the IT level of Solo’s Silo 

51 Silos = 50 states + DC

Silo 18 = Georgia?

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Spoiler

Best guess

Silos were government contingency plan after the dirty nuke. Government eventually retaliated against Iran, WWIII happens and forces everyone under ground. 

Congressman in the bar was involved on the project, eventually takes reporter with him to Silos 18 (he is guaranteed a spot).

DC Silo controls all 50 Silos and kept the fail safe poison pipe in case of rebellion. 
 

The tunnels were originally created so the Silos could be connected, but revolt/rebellion caused them seal the tunnels, burn all relics of the past and institute the Pact. 

 

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On 1/11/2025 at 1:55 PM, Chips O'Toole said:

Just started season 2. Holy shit, episode 1 was the most boring hour of TV I've seen in a while and I couldn't see shit because it was so dark.  I'm assuming it gets better but goddamn, what the fuck was that. 

I watched 4 episodes on my upstairs TV after taking valium for a vasectomy. Was too tired to figure out how to turn off the energy saving settings, so I couldn't see shit. Seems like I didn't miss much. I enjoyed the end of the season though. 

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I'm serious.  To anyone just beginning the 2nd season, Watch the "previously on" before episode 2, and then skip to the "previously on" for episode 3.  Continue this until the second to last episode and then watch it and the finale beginning to end.  You will miss a whole lot of boredom and cringe, but nothing of import.

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Spoiler

Best guess
Silos were government contingency plan after the dirty nuke. Government eventually retaliated against Iran, WWIII happens and forces everyone under ground. 

Congressman in the bar was involved on the project, eventually takes reporter with him to Silos 18 (he is guaranteed a spot).
DC Silo controls all 50 Silos and kept the fail safe poison pipe in case of rebellion. 
 
The tunnels were originally created so the Silos could be connected, but revolt/rebellion caused them seal the tunnels, burn all relics of the past and institute the Pact. 

 


I like a lot of your theory except that it doesn’t explain why the outside air is so toxic that people die within minutes. Or at least when the silo 17 occupants died, which was 25-30 years ago, they died quickly. And silo 18 people die when they go clean, except Juliette.

There must be some chemical toxicity and not just leftover nuclear fallout. I think people get poisoned with gas as they are exiting up the stairs, except for Juliette who had the better tape to seal her suit.

And if that is true, then who or what is poisoning them and why? A sadistic human overseeing everything? An AI that controls the silos and wants to keep what’s left of humanity in captivity?
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12 minutes ago, wild_turkey said:


I like a lot of your theory except that it doesn’t explain why the outside air is so toxic that people die within minutes. Or at least when the silo 17 occupants died, which was 25-30 years ago, they died quickly. And silo 18 people die when they go clean, except Juliette.

There must be some chemical toxicity and not just leftover nuclear fallout. I think people get poisoned with gas as they are exiting up the stairs, except for Juliette who had the better tape to seal her suit.

And if that is true, then who or what is poisoning them and why? A sadistic human overseeing everything? An AI that controls the silos and wants to keep what’s left of humanity in captivity?

Is the outside air toxic? I thought the silo 17 people were gassed on their way out just like the cleaners from silo 18.

I think AI runs the place based on protocols it developed to achieve a goal given to it at the beginning. The protocols are a misunderstanding of it's intended objective.

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1 minute ago, F250 said:

Is the outside air toxic? I thought the silo 17 people were gassed on their way out just like the cleaners from silo 18.

Solo sure made it sound like they were gassed and it was not the outside air 

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I didn't catch. The outside air is the biggest mystery to me right now. DC/Silo 51 probably started off as our elected officials and families and used AI to help run things. After 100+ years best guess is AI is now fully in control 

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54 minutes ago, TexasHooch said:

I'm serious.  To anyone just beginning the 2nd season, Watch the "previously on" before episode 2, and then skip to the "previously on" for episode 3.  Continue this until the second to last episode and then watch it and the finale beginning to end.  You will miss a whole lot of boredom and cringe, but nothing of import.

or just watch slow horses.

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From Hugh Howey

Spoiler

“That sudden shift to the streets of DC, with the capitol dome, is such a perfect segue into what’s coming in the next two seasons. But don’t worry … just as season 2 flipped between the events of Silo 17 and 18, seasons 3 and 4 will take us from the near-future events that lead to the silo project, and what’s happening to the cast we’ve come to know and love the past two seasons.”

 

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During season 1, my theory all along was that the cleaners were being gassed on the way out and that the outside world really was beautiful and not toxic.  But when it turned out not to be beautiful, and there was so much emphasis on the tape seal, and the silo 17 folks all died just outside the silo, I abandoned this idea.  

But given what Solo said, now I am coming to the idea that maybe the outside is a wasteland, but not toxic, and the silo is designed to keep people in to maintain someone's idea of order, not for safety.  

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They’ve gone to decent pains to obfuscate the timeframe of the “present day” silo action. They have talked numbers of years and many rebellions, but they’ve also talked about memory erasing drugs and other ideas that make timeframes unreliable.  The general sentiment seems to be that the silos are 200-300 years old. 
 

the big shock would be if it takes place very close to initial population of the silos or in the very distant future hundreds or thousands of years removed from activation. 

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1 hour ago, Pato del Muerto said:

They’ve gone to decent pains to obfuscate the timeframe of the “present day” silo action. They have talked numbers of years and many rebellions, but they’ve also talked about memory erasing drugs and other ideas that make timeframes unreliable.  The general sentiment seems to be that the silos are 200-300 years old. 
 

the big shock would be if it takes place very close to initial population of the silos or in the very distant future hundreds or thousands of years removed from activation. 

Book spoiler, but the TV timeline may be slightly different:

Spoiler

Silos were built in 2052 and the book setting is 2345

 

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1 minute ago, Js1 said:

Book spoiler, but the TV timeline may be slightly different:

  Reveal hidden contents

Silos were built in 2052 and the book setting is 2345

 

I’m pretty sure Bernard said the silos are 340 years old.  

 

On 1/21/2025 at 12:02 PM, bschoolprof said:

But given what Solo said, now I am coming to the idea that maybe the outside is a wasteland, but not toxic, and the silo is designed to keep people in to maintain someone's idea of order, not for safety.

We’ll see-I don’t know how you end this story if they aren’t leaving the silos, having found a safe place to colonize topside or in search of one.  
 

If that’s the case, then it appears that the AI running parts of the Silo and that Lukas encountered may end up being the antagonist.  I’m curious why Solo appears to not be receiving direction from the AI in Silo 17, or why it appears they have the technology for silo to silo communication but it’s not being used.  

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On 1/20/2025 at 3:07 PM, hookem2010 said:

I watched 4 episodes on my upstairs TV after taking valium for a vasectomy. Was too tired to figure out how to turn off the energy saving settings, so I couldn't see shit. Seems like I didn't miss much. I enjoyed the end of the season though. 

My TV is fairly bright and I struggled to see what was going on in the new Silo.

 

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1 hour ago, LCHorn said:

I’m pretty sure Bernard said the silos are 340 years old.  

My point is that they are unreliable, even from the head of IT.  Does he really know?  Or is there a layer of knowledge above anyone at a regular silo- that exists at silo (area) 51?  Or is the actual knowledge lost to time and knowledge suppression?  Guess it depends on what the screenwriters want to have happen. 

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9 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

My point is that they are unreliable, even from the head of IT.  Does he really know?  Or is there a layer of knowledge above anyone at a regular silo- that exists at silo (area) 51?  Or is the actual knowledge lost to time and knowledge suppression?  Guess it depends on what the screenwriters want to have happen. 

I assume the knowledge is there, but only for IT and shadow. 

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15 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

My point is that they are unreliable, even from the head of IT.  Does he really know?

If that number isn’t accurate then I think they would have cast more doubt on it.  I think the story they want to tell is one with people like Bernard and Simms doing horrible things but in good faith that they are protecting the vast majority of the Silo.  In other words, we should be able to rely on Bernard’s honesty in that exchange.  

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Common’s rapper-cum-actor turn is interesting. 

His silky baritone voice is perfect for his music but is so monotone and wooden in acting. 

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5 hours ago, 52-80 said:

Common’s rapper-cum-actor turn is interesting. 

His silky baritone voice is perfect for his music but is so monotone and wooden in acting. 

I would call his acting anything BUT interesting.

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48 minutes ago, Captain Ron said:

I would call his acting anything BUT interesting.

His performance is easily the least convincing in the main cast. 

This goes for the 10+ shows and movies I’ve seen him in. 

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On 12/9/2024 at 5:39 AM, wild_turkey said:

When Juliette swam underwater to get the firefighter suit, where were those lights coming from? This silo, apart from the vault, appears dead, yet there happens to be a few lights still functioning in locations critical to her mission?

If you pay careful attention to many shows and movies in these types of scenes -- in caverns and tunnels and such, or medieval candle-list sets --  the visible lighting is just service to the audience so they're not staring at near pitch blackness.  It's not meant to realistically portray the environment lighting.  They do this to a extraordinary amount in this show.

 

On 1/9/2025 at 4:48 AM, Chet Steadman said:

This show has become such a beating.  

And as distracting as Common is in each of his scenes, the woman who plays Walker may be the worst actor I’ve ever witnessed.   

I thought her *role* in S1 was really good, and S2 the role sucked but the acting is still high quality. Unlike Common, she's actually won accolades for acting.

In certain tight shots Rebecca Ferguson looks all of her age (41) and more. In the S2 mechanic jumper suit with short hair she is a baddie.

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1 hour ago, kevwun said:

Darkness is also cheaper, both in fx and sets.

Yeah, but then you'd get people complaining that they can't see shit, like for most of House of Dragons. 

Film lighting has always been for artistic intent first and and foremost, and then for realism second. Its better to show that the underground tunneling machine is huge and impressive than that its darker than Charlie Murphy.  Theres no way you should be able to see Lukas' face and body in this cavern.

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Posted
8 hours ago, CurlyDumps said:

What 40 year old man buys a chick a pez dispenser on a first date?

a man literally named ashley

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On 1/17/2025 at 2:09 PM, wild_turkey said:

The flashback scene was presumably in Atlanta because they referenced a dirty bomb in D.C., so it would be uninhabitable.

Can’t tell the US Capitol from the Georgia state capitol. Somebody’s never watched Matlock. 

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We just finished season 2. My theory is that the safeguard isn't poison to kill everyone, it's the magic memory drug to "reboot" the silo's entire population/history/culture/etc. Nuke Laloosh thought he knew shit but realized they're all just puppets which is why he checked out after Lukas Kyle told him the truth.

So are we thinking that they killed off Nuke in the last scene? I assume they'll explain RF surviving because she's in the fire suit.

I felt like season 2 was pretty similar to season 1. Good start, great finish, middle episodes kinda wandered through the wilderness. They didn't do a great job of developing the people from mechanical. I didn't even remember Knox and Shirley from season 1 and they just showed up and turned into basically the main characters of season 2.

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