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32 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

Perhaps Arch squeezes that into a tight window, but Wingo might be missing his head. Talking about a really tight window. There is nothing wrong with the read. You have 2 over 1 on Wingo and 1 on 1 with Livingstone. This is internet breakdown at its finest. 

 

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He's not open. A lot of bad can happen if you throw that ball. A couple years back Ewers threw that ball to Sanders. He got hit and the ball came out and up in the air. INT. Worse yet your number 1 receiver is out a couple games. 

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14 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

He's not open. A lot of bad can happen if you throw that ball. A couple years back Ewers threw that ball to Sanders. He got hit and the ball came out and up in the air. INT. Worse yet your number 1 receiver is out a couple games. 

I think it is easy to slice things up and say you had a .25 of second to hit a tight window, but it is more about process. I am not going to hammer a QB for not throwing a ball into double coverage, because he threw a ball into single coverage. Livingstone makes the contested catch or there is a flag in the endzone, nobody would have said a word. You can go to the quick check down with the crosser opening up, if you want to hammer Arch on his reads. 

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Posted
8 hours ago, DanTheHorn said:

Did not see this posted but after watching it looks like Arch moves well in the pocket. Also, not having wide receivers open is probably put to rest by this breakdown done by Chase Daniels.

 

The throw to Wingo, the one at the end, will forever be burnt inside my head. He had one guy to beat and so much space. 🤬🤬

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Posted
14 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

I think it is easy to slice things up and say you had a .25 of second to hit a tight window, but it is more about process. I am not going to hammer a QB for not throwing a ball into double coverage, because he threw a ball into single coverage. Livingstone makes the contested catch or there is a flag in the endzone, nobody would have said a word. You can go to the quick check down with the crosser opening up, if you want to hammer Arch on his reads. 

Correct. Arch wasn't as much bad on reads as he was late or inaccurate. He gets a pass on this play. 

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Posted
14 hours ago, catastrophic789 said:

You guys really need to wake up to reality. I broke down every dropback in the first half of that Monroe game, it was a significantly worse performance than Ohio State. The timestamps are below, just jump to them and watch for yourself. Objectively look at the plays he's making or rather not making and ignore the commentators that are literally blowing him for simply being able to tie his shoes

Some of you guys, I swear, it's like you never stepped into a batter's box in a little league game before.  Form and vision break down under stress.  Athletes who are nervous often revert back to poor form or miss obvious plays.  It's why they practice so much, so that good play becomes second nature.  

One and a half bad games doesn't make you a bust.  We've all seen perfect in-game reps from Arch, but we just need to see it consistently and against great defenses.  Save this take for his forth or fifth bad game, because that's about how long his rope is with Sark and we both know it.  

      

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Posted (edited)
21 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

Correct. Arch wasn't as much bad on reads as he was late or inaccurate. He gets a pass on this play. 

If it was not for the poor throwing mechanics, I would completely blow this off. Overall, this was a really tough environment. OSU played really good coverage. Lots of tight windows, so young QB could not be a tick slow. Arch didnt take advantage, when OSU let someone open. OSU forced Arch to play at high level to beat them, he played poorly. 

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Posted
18 hours ago, Noozak said:

Derka i'm not attacking you here, so please don't take it that way. This take from Ryan Clark about the generational talent is pretty fucking stupid though. Recruiting services and every school in the country all agreed that he was the best QB in his class. He had a 1.000 rating for fucks sake. His arm talent is on the same tier as Lawrence, Andrew Luck, etc. Anyone who saw him play all agreed. What we're just going to fucking act like that didn't happen? How is there any evidence that he isn't a generational player? There is absolutely zero evidence that Bryce Underwood is a generational talent. The Michigan QB room was a dumpster fire. You don't pay someone that much to sit the bench. The family said from the beginning that he was going to sit and take his time - there was no rush. If there is a problem with Arch I think it was that his family allowed him just to sit back and learn rather than push him to take the job from Quinn.

This response is just as reactionary and stupid as those who hyped him to the moon. The kid sucked ass last weekend and deserves his lumps but he also deserves the benefit of time as the starter and time to learn. You can count on 1 hand the number of QBs in college who make that throw down the sideline in the 4th quarter. Ryan Clark can miss me with this bullshit. 

Ryan Clark don't know shit about CFB and isn't worth paying attention to in this scenario at all. 

but come on man, you can't say "look at the 1.000 rating" when this is Bryce Underwood's rating:

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Posted
28 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

Arch wasn't as much bad on reads as he was late or inaccurate. 

Totally agree. The decision making was fine against a smart and good defense, timing/mechanics were the clear issues. 

 

Posted
1 minute ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Totally agree. The decision making was fine against a smart and good defense, timing/mechanics were the clear issues. 

 

Yep.  Had he made the limited number of open/available throws he had, it's a different game.  

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18 hours ago, Derka said:

 i couldn’t believe that his family didn’t have him facing better competition.

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Posted
1 hour ago, Thatguy said:

He's not open. A lot of bad can happen if you throw that ball. A couple years back Ewers threw that ball to Sanders. He got hit and the ball came out and up in the air. INT. Worse yet your number 1 receiver is out a couple games. 

If you throw that ball in the snapshot taken then yes, a lot of bad can happen. Wingo was open right off the rub which is the read and it gives Wingo plenty of room to not get decapitated. It’s a bang-bang play that Arch needs to be quick with trigger on. 

The ball to Sanders, are you talking about the one against Oklahoma?

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PFF grades for Arch

PFF Overall Grade76
PFF Passing Grade72.2
PFF Passing Grade (Clean Pocket)87.3
PFF Passing Grade (Under Pressure)35.3
PFF Passing Grade (First three quarters)43.1
PFF Passing Grade (Fourth quarter)91.3
 
That is nice finish after a brutal first 3Qs
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Posted
12 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

PFF grades for Arch

PFF Overall Grade76
PFF Passing Grade72.2
PFF Passing Grade (Clean Pocket)87.3
PFF Passing Grade (Under Pressure)35.3
PFF Passing Grade (First three quarters)43.1
PFF Passing Grade (Fourth quarter)91.3
 
That is nice finish after a brutal first 3Qs

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Posted
5 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Why are you talking about Colt? The post I quoted and said that was Peyton and Arch comparison. 

Sorry, I got distracted by the Colt 2006/ Arch 2025 v. OSU discussion. 

Posted
18 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

 

If you follow MBG then you know we’re not as bad as others. 

Oh, not even close, man. Not even top 5. Aggies keep them in business, but it's absolutely hilarious when breakdowns start here. I am one of them, and I laugh because we are all so invested we just lose our shit over even the most minute things. That's why I love this site. Our pedantry coupled with sarcasm is chef's kiss. But yeah, we aren't even close to the worst, we just get to see it up close. 

Posted
3 hours ago, Levi said:

If you throw that ball in the snapshot taken then yes, a lot of bad can happen. Wingo was open right off the rub which is the read and it gives Wingo plenty of room to not get decapitated. It’s a bang-bang play that Arch needs to be quick with trigger on. 

The ball to Sanders, are you talking about the one against Oklahoma?

If nothing else, this shows why coaches will go with experience over talent when push comes to shove. 

Posted
3 minutes ago, bschoolprof said:

This guy (former college QB, practice squad guy in NFL, for Sark briefly) thinks he's hurt (or other arm issues).  

 

In game one?  I refuse to believe it. He’s just going for clicks. 

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Posted
19 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

In game one?  I refuse to believe it. He’s just going for clicks. 

Yeah, none of this is that complicated, but it's time to pile on and get the hot take in now to drive views.  You had a kid who has never started a big game, going into one of the toughest environments in college football, against one of the best defenses in the country, and had to do it Week 1 with no tune ups.  He was nervous and keyed up and so his mechanics went to shit.  

The hilarious part of all of this is people acting like he played miserably the entire time.  Like he threw 4 INTs, fumbled all over the place, got sacked a dozen times, and had no idea what he was doing.  In reality, he took care of the ball fairly well, showed his mobility, and was just off on his throws a bit.  I've seen much worse performances against much worse teams from plenty of past Longhorn QBs.  Including the one we just shipped off to basically be Mr. Irrelevant in the Draft. 

Arch didn't anoint himself as a generational talent.  No one from the team from Sark on down did either, as far as I'm aware.  That was all just BS content creation by the sports media.  This kid was supposed to come out game one of the season against the defending nat'l champs in their house and look like Prime VY or Cam Newton?  Was that the deal?  Did either of his uncles look that way back when they were in college?  It's been awhile, but I seem to remember both of them being kinda shit for awhile until they got some experience under their belts. 

We're going to mudhole San Jose St., UTEP, Sam Houston, Florida, the Land Thieves, Kentucky, Miss. St., and Vandy and everyone will be back on the Arch Manning bandwagon.  Then the Georgia game will be the true litmus test for where Arch is as a QB.  Hopefully by that time Sark has pulled his head out of his ass and figured out how to call plays in the redzone.              

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i hate to be the one to bring this up, but last season there was zero shortage of, “quinn has obviously been playing hurt”, excuses, and now it’s like, “there’s zero fucking chance that arch is hurt, they wouldn’t be letting him play.” clashing takes aside, college football players obviously do play through minor injuries all of the time, so this idea that there’s just no chance that he’s dealing with an injury issue doesn’t hold water.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Derka said:

i hate to be the one to bring this up, but last season there was zero shortage of, “quinn has obviously been playing hurt”, excuses, and now it’s like, “there’s zero fucking chance that arch is hurt, they wouldn’t be letting him play.” clashing takes aside, college football players obviously do play through minor injuries all of the time, so this idea that there’s just no chance that he’s dealing with an injury issue doesn’t hold water.

I think it was over-played last year and nonsense this year. If Arch is legit injured and played, the hit pieces on Sark will be everywhere. Not to mention Arch threw some legit NFL throws in that 4Q, I can see someone with a bad shoulder getting credited with 4 "big time throws" by PFF in a quarter with a bad shoulder. 

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Posted
1 hour ago, Biff Tannen said:

In game one?  I refuse to believe it. He’s just going for clicks. 

He would have put it in the thumbnail if it were for pure clicks. The YT algorithm measures both clicks and duration of watch time, then engagement and likes. All play a part. He is not the only person making similar comments, there are a lot of them. Primarily, that we didnt see it last year. Again, I'm not claiming it's an injury. Neither is this podcaster. He along with others are bringing it up as a possibility. Outright dismissing it is as questionable as absolutely assuming it's the case. And... even perhaps its a combination of mental and physical. Watching the video with an open, but critical thinking mind is the best way to proceed.

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I don't know how much stock to put into it . . . probably not much.  But he was a college QB that had shoulder problems himself and I think we were all shocked to see how shitty Arch looked.  It's worth at least thinking about.  I do agree with him that some of Arch's throws look incredibly labored yet have no pop on them at all.  Odd.  

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name="DanTheHorn" 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Did not see this posted but after watching it looks like Arch moves well in the pocket. Also, not having wide receivers open is probably put to rest by this breakdown done by Chase Daniels.
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Watched it all, some of the best analysis I’ve seen, highly recommend.
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name="Thatguy" 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He's not open. A lot of bad can happen if you throw that ball. A couple years back Ewers threw that ball to Sanders. He got hit and the ball came out and up in the air. INT. Worse yet your number [emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]] receiver is out a couple games. 

He was sitting right in the middle of the field pre-pass, that pic shows him just breaking after it was thrown, at best that’s an incompletion at work a pick [emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]]]] or wing gets blown the fuck up, I agree, that safety was trying to bait and make him think he was but he was never open
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Just now, Hank_Hill said:

Ewers literally sat out games due to injury prior to the playing through injury comments. That comparison is nonsense.

Yeah this is stupid argument. I think the Arch is hurt crowd noise is hard cope for a shit performance. 

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6 minutes ago, Hank_Hill said:

Ewers literally sat out games due to injury prior to the playing through injury comments. That comparison is nonsense.

Exactly. There was evidence for Ewers being hurt. There's no evidence for Arch being hurt. Idiots abound.

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7 hours ago, bejezuz said:

Some of you guys, I swear, it's like you never stepped into a batter's box in a little league game before.  Form and vision break down under stress.  Athletes who are nervous often revert back to poor form or miss obvious plays.  It's why they practice so much, so that good play becomes second nature. 

      

I don't think self-reflection, personal growth and wisdom is something many have experience with. They all hit the ground running and killed it right off the bat... which is why they spend so much time here. They already crushed everything else.

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1 hour ago, Derka said:

i hate to be the one to bring this up, but last season there was zero shortage of, “quinn has obviously been playing hurt”, excuses, and now it’s like, “there’s zero fucking chance that arch is hurt, they wouldn’t be letting him play.” clashing takes aside, college football players obviously do play through minor injuries all of the time, so this idea that there’s just no chance that he’s dealing with an injury issue doesn’t hold water.

This was literally his first game. 

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1 hour ago, Biff Tannen said:

This was literally his first game. 

an alarming number of you seem to be under the impression that people are only capable of being injured during football games. you guys are all lol’ing and high fiving each other as if it’s impossible that arch could have tweaked something in practice, or i dunno, gotten the least bit hurt in any way during any other endeavor he might partake in throughout his life. i’ve torn both of my meniscuses (meniscii?) and an oblique in the last year, and last i checked i haven’t played in any football games since high school. so not only are you guys making an idiotic point, you’re being insulting on top of it. “idiots abound”. oh indeed.

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as if we all didn’t watch colt mccoy have a shitty sophomore season due to injuries he sustained the year prior. like no one has ever entered a season banged up before. give me a break.

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I think it was over-played last year and nonsense this year. If Arch is legit injured and played, the hit pieces on Sark will be everywhere. Not to mention Arch threw some legit NFL throws in that 4Q, I can see someone with a bad shoulder getting credited with 4 "big time throws" by PFF in a quarter with a bad shoulder. 

Didn’t worthy play like a half season with an undisclosed broken hand?
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1 hour ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Yeah this is stupid argument. I think the Arch is hurt crowd noise is hard cope for a shit performance. 

“hard cope”. are you 15? whose mind frame works like this? arch manning played quite a bit last year and he not only never played half as poorly as he did in week 1 vs tOSU, but he also never showed that weird throwing motion that he had going on for the majority of the game. so, it’s week 1, and the presumptive heisman favorite has the worst game of his life despite a clean pocket all day, he’s making crap throws left and right, and his throwing motion is noticeably different and awkward, and you think that the only possibly reason that anyone would wonder if he might be dealing with an injury is “hard cope”. that’s fucking stupid, combative, juvenile bullshit. 

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3 hours ago, bschoolprof said:

This guy (former college QB, practice squad guy in NFL, for Sark briefly) thinks he's hurt (or other arm issues).  

 

This dude is a retard he needs to stick to Madden tutorials 

He talks shit about how Arch threw a ball at one point, inaccurate off angle throw, then doesn’t say a word about the free rusher coming up the middle with his hands up 1 yard from his face as he made that throw. 

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9 minutes ago, Derka said:

“hard cope”. are you 15? whose mind frame works like this? arch manning played quite a bit last year and he not only never played half as poorly as he did in week 1 vs tOSU, but he also never showed that weird throwing motion that he had going on for the majority of the game. so, it’s week 1, and the presumptive heisman favorite has the worst game of his life despite a clean pocket all day, he’s making crap throws left and right, and his throwing motion is noticeably different and awkward, and you think that the only possibly reason that anyone would wonder if he might be dealing with an injury is “hard cope”. that’s fucking stupid, combative, juvenile bullshit. 

 

you’re hard coping 

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30 minutes ago, Derka said:

“hard cope”. are you 15? whose mind frame works like this? arch manning played quite a bit last year and he not only never played half as poorly as he did in week 1 vs tOSU, but he also never showed that weird throwing motion that he had going on for the majority of the game. so, it’s week 1, and the presumptive heisman favorite has the worst game of his life despite a clean pocket all day, he’s making crap throws left and right, and his throwing motion is noticeably different and awkward, and you think that the only possibly reason that anyone would wonder if he might be dealing with an injury is “hard cope”. that’s fucking stupid, combative, juvenile bullshit. 

The OSU game was a big fat receipt from everyone saying Arch might not have been a better option than Quinn last year against OSU hitting you right in the face. Must be a hard cope.

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Not sure what has grinded my gears more the last 5 days:

The sharing of insipid, unfunny AI Slop memes (Arch Manning as Dak Prescott? Shane Gillis???)

The sharing of shit tier youtube videos as some kind of credible course. 

Unfortunately both of these things are here to stay.

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2 hours ago, Derka said:

so not only are you guys making an idiotic point, you’re being insulting on top of it.

With all due respect, you are being such a pussy lately. Not everything is an attack on you. 

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6 minutes ago, Da Fino said:

With all due respect, you are being such a pussy lately. Not everything is an attack on you. 

i just find it ironic when the people making the dumbest argument are the only ones talking shit. and with as much as people whine about me supposedly being combative, of course i’m going to point it out when it’s the other way around. so with all due respect, stop being such a pussy about me pointing this out.

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