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33 minutes ago, Hank_Hill said:

How many American families would this feed for a decade? 

Just operating a single B2 spirit on a mission of this length without any ordinance at all would be a significant number of millions. I don't even want to think about how much this operation had to cost and how much it may cost in the long run.

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3 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

Because they believe Israel and honestly Jews, Christians and religious freedom, should not exist, and the US supports those in various ways. Add to it they've been in bed with Russia since inception. Yeah... I wonder why too.

Bro, come on. You've had plenty of good takes but this is the most incredibly baby brained take on US/Iranian/Israeli relations I may have ever seen in my life.

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2 minutes ago, Duane Moore said:

Jimbo's agent conveyed to Texas A&M through back-channel discussions that his recruiting misses would be contained, and that no further losing seasons were planned going forward, according to officials who posted on TexAgs

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6 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

Bro, come on. You've had plenty of good takes but this is the most incredibly baby brained take on US/Iranian/Israeli relations I may have ever seen in my life.

 

It's not like they were keeping it a big secret.

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37 minutes ago, Herbie Hancock said:


That was 100% written by an Army gomer. If it had been a Navy nerd it would have been signed “Very Respectfully”. I have many years worth of work emails from guys I’ve never met in person, but I can tell you with absolute certainty what branch they served in based on their email signature.

Can you detect the crayon eaters too?

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3 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

Bro, come on. You've had plenty of good takes but this is the most incredibly baby brained take on US/Iranian/Israeli relations I may have ever seen in my life.

The original thing you quoted was that Iran has been attacking us via proxies for 40 years, which is true and you said you wonder why.. 

What I said was historically accurate. You can choose to ignore history and reality, doesn't mean it ceases to exist. 

I'm not claiming its why they were bombed tonight but history matters. 

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1 hour ago, Duane Moore said:

If you’re going to take the plunge and hit the site, glad they made sure they’d get the job done:

 

"Think you used enough dynamite there, Butch?" 

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Just now, BurntEyes said:

The original thing you quoted was that Iran has been attacking us via proxies for 40 years, which is true and you said you wonder why.. 

What I said was historically accurate. You can choose to ignore history and reality, doesn't mean it ceases to exist. 

I'm not claiming its why they were bombed tonight but history matters. 

What you said was a bullshit, whitewashed, rationalization of why Iran hates us. History matters, but not the part where we deposed their democratically elected leadership, installed an oppressive monarchy that squeezed Iranians for 26 years resulting in the Iranian Revolution that installed the extremists that now control the country, right? We should just ignore everything that happened before 1979 because it's inconvenient for your narrative.

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1 minute ago, Brian Fantana said:

What you said was a bullshit, whitewashed, rationalization of why Iran hates us. History matters, but not the part where we deposed their democratically elected leadership, installed an oppressive monarchy that squeezed Iranians for 26 years resulting in the Iranian Revolution that installed the extremists that now control the country, right? We should just ignore everything that happened before 1979 because it's inconvenient for your narrative.

1979? History began on October 7, 2023.

1 minute ago, McCroskey said:

Trump says the targets were completely and totally obliterated.

 

Logic says he's probably right but I'm a little less certain now just how he said it.

He won Pennsylvania in 2020 by a lot

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14 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

Just operating a single B2 spirit on a mission of this length without any ordinance at all would be a significant number of millions. I don't even want to think about how much this operation had to cost and how much it may cost in the long run.

B-2 cost roughly $135k a flight hour to operate. 

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Asked ChatGPT: 

What would happen if the U.S. took out Iran’s nuclear facilities at fordow using bunker busting bombs?

Gonna post the response here so we can see how well it predicts what is next.

Spoiler

If the U.S. bombed Iran’s Fordow Fuel Enrichment Plant using bunker-busting bombs (e.g. GBU-57 MOP), the consequences would be severe and far-reaching—militarily, diplomatically, and economically. Here’s a direct breakdown:

 

 

1. Immediate Military Impact

 

 

  • Facility Destruction: Fordow is built deep underground (~80–100m beneath a mountain), but U.S. bunker-busting tech could potentially destroy or disable it. Success depends on intel accuracy and strike precision.
  • Iranian Retaliation: Iran would almost certainly retaliate via:
    • Missile strikes against U.S. bases in Iraq, Syria, or the Persian Gulf.
    • Attacks on Israel via Hezbollah or proxies in Syria and Lebanon.
    • Maritime attacks in the Strait of Hormuz (e.g. mining, ship seizures).
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  • Regional Escalation: Israeli involvement is likely. Gulf States like Saudi Arabia and the UAE might be drawn in or targeted. The conflict could spiral into a regional war.

 

 

 

2. Global Economic Fallout

 

 

  • Oil Prices Spike: The Strait of Hormuz sees ~20% of global oil trade. Even minor disruption would send oil prices soaring—possibly over $150/barrel.
  • Global Markets Rattle: Investors hate instability. Expect a flight to safety (gold, bonds) and market volatility.

 

 

 

3. Diplomatic Consequences

 

 

  • Collapse of Diplomacy: Any remaining hopes of reviving the Iran nuclear deal (JCPOA) would vanish.
  • U.S. Isolation: Allies in Europe, China, and possibly parts of the Global South would likely condemn the strike unless it followed clear evidence of imminent nuclear breakout.
  • UN Fallout: UN Security Council session would be called; Russia and China would use the moment to hammer U.S. “aggression.”

 

 

 

4. Nuclear Program Reaction

 

 

  • Iran Reboots Full-Scale: Iran would likely abandon all pretense of civilian nuclear work and go full-speed toward a bomb, arguing that only nukes can deter attacks.
  • Breakout Timeline Accelerates: Ironically, a strike might shorten the time to a nuclear weapon if Iran decides to rebuild in secret without IAEA oversight.

 

 

 

5. Domestic Political Fallout

 

 

  • War Fatigue: U.S. public appetite for another Middle Eastern conflict is low. There’d be heavy scrutiny of the rationale and endgame.
  • Terror Risks: Risk of terror plots or cyberattacks on U.S. assets or infrastructure in retaliation.

 

 

 

Bottom Line:

 

 

A strike on Fordow would likely prevent or delay Iranian nuclear weaponization—but at the cost of igniting a regional war, damaging the global economy, and possibly accelerating Iran’s nuclear resolve. Unless it’s a last-resort act to prevent imminent nuclear breakout, it would be a high-risk gamble.

 

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Posted
22 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

Just operating a single B2 spirit on a mission of this length without any ordinance at all would be a significant number of millions. I don't even want to think about how much this operation had to cost and how much it may cost in the long run.

Are you worried about the numbers? 

Posted
1 minute ago, totallynotabuttpirate said:

Are you worried about the numbers? 

Not particularly, it's just a crazy amount of money and feels like it might be a drop in the bucket compared to what could be coming.

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11 minutes ago, Thetexashammer said:

 

 

Toby Keith is being tortured in hell by being reminded that he's dead and can't continue grifting the American public by making money off of American tragedy.

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Posted
1 minute ago, Beau Vine said:

Well that should certainly calm the Futures market!

Market speculation and maybe a little localized panic buying of gas is going to fuck a lot of people 

Posted
10 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

What you said was a bullshit, whitewashed, rationalization of why Iran hates us. History matters, but not the part where we deposed their democratically elected leadership, installed an oppressive monarchy that squeezed Iranians for 26 years resulting in the Iranian Revolution that installed the extremists that now control the country, right? We should just ignore everything that happened before 1979 because it's inconvenient for your narrative.

I never said that we should ignore history prior to 1979. You're also vastly oversimplifying what happened in 1979 and ignoring what happened since. 

It's like discussing quantum physics with a child.

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7 minutes ago, Goredho said:

Asked ChatGPT: 

What would happen if the U.S. took out Iran’s nuclear facilities at fordow using bunker busting bombs?

Gonna post the response here so we can see how well it predicts what is next.

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If the U.S. bombed Iran’s Fordow Fuel Enrichment Plant using bunker-busting bombs (e.g. GBU-57 MOP), the consequences would be severe and far-reaching—militarily, diplomatically, and economically. Here’s a direct breakdown:

 

 

1. Immediate Military Impact

 

 

  • Facility Destruction: Fordow is built deep underground (~80–100m beneath a mountain), but U.S. bunker-busting tech could potentially destroy or disable it. Success depends on intel accuracy and strike precision.
  • Iranian Retaliation: Iran would almost certainly retaliate via:
    • Missile strikes against U.S. bases in Iraq, Syria, or the Persian Gulf.
    • Attacks on Israel via Hezbollah or proxies in Syria and Lebanon.
    • Maritime attacks in the Strait of Hormuz (e.g. mining, ship seizures).
  •  
  • Regional Escalation: Israeli involvement is likely. Gulf States like Saudi Arabia and the UAE might be drawn in or targeted. The conflict could spiral into a regional war.

 

 

 

2. Global Economic Fallout

 

 

  • Oil Prices Spike: The Strait of Hormuz sees ~20% of global oil trade. Even minor disruption would send oil prices soaring—possibly over $150/barrel.
  • Global Markets Rattle: Investors hate instability. Expect a flight to safety (gold, bonds) and market volatility.

 

 

 

3. Diplomatic Consequences

 

 

  • Collapse of Diplomacy: Any remaining hopes of reviving the Iran nuclear deal (JCPOA) would vanish.
  • U.S. Isolation: Allies in Europe, China, and possibly parts of the Global South would likely condemn the strike unless it followed clear evidence of imminent nuclear breakout.
  • UN Fallout: UN Security Council session would be called; Russia and China would use the moment to hammer U.S. “aggression.”

 

 

 

4. Nuclear Program Reaction

 

 

  • Iran Reboots Full-Scale: Iran would likely abandon all pretense of civilian nuclear work and go full-speed toward a bomb, arguing that only nukes can deter attacks.
  • Breakout Timeline Accelerates: Ironically, a strike might shorten the time to a nuclear weapon if Iran decides to rebuild in secret without IAEA oversight.

 

 

 

5. Domestic Political Fallout

 

 

  • War Fatigue: U.S. public appetite for another Middle Eastern conflict is low. There’d be heavy scrutiny of the rationale and endgame.
  • Terror Risks: Risk of terror plots or cyberattacks on U.S. assets or infrastructure in retaliation.

 

 

 

Bottom Line:

 

 

A strike on Fordow would likely prevent or delay Iranian nuclear weaponization—but at the cost of igniting a regional war, damaging the global economy, and possibly accelerating Iran’s nuclear resolve. Unless it’s a last-resort act to prevent imminent nuclear breakout, it would be a high-risk gamble.

 

Well if we play that game let's also let the other AI's participate:

Google Gemini:

Spoiler

If the U.S. were to strike Iran's Fordow nuclear facility using bunker-busting bombs like the GBU-57 Massive Ordnance Penetrator (MOP), the potential outcomes would be significant and far-reaching:

1. Effectiveness of the Strike:

  • Fordow's Fortifications: Fordow is a deeply buried facility, reportedly 80-110 meters (260-360 feet) underground, built into a mountain specifically to withstand airstrikes. It's considered one of the most challenging targets.
  • GBU-57 MOP: The GBU-57 MOP is the largest conventional bunker-buster bomb in the U.S. arsenal, weighing 30,000 pounds and designed to penetrate up to 60 meters (200 feet) of earth or 18 meters (59 feet) of reinforced concrete. While it's the most capable conventional weapon for such a target, there's debate and uncertainty about its ability to completely destroy Fordow's deepest sections in a single strike, especially given reports of Fordow's concrete strength. Multiple MOPs might be required for full destruction.
  • Damage Assessment: Initial reports suggest that while some above-ground infrastructure at other Iranian nuclear sites (like Natanz and Isfahan) has been damaged, the full extent of damage to Fordow's deep underground enrichment halls is difficult to assess. Iran has also claimed to have evacuated these sites prior to any strikes.

2. Immediate Geopolitical and Military Consequences:

  • Direct U.S. Involvement: Such an attack would mark a direct U.S. military intervention in the ongoing Israel-Iran conflict, escalating regional tensions significantly.
  • Iranian Retaliation: Iran has explicitly warned that any direct U.S. intervention would lead to "irreparable damage" for the U.S. and could result in an "all-out war in the region." They have stated that U.S. troops and bases in the Middle East would become legitimate targets. Retaliatory measures could include:
    • Attacks on U.S. military assets and personnel in the region.
    • Increased activity by Iranian proxies (like the Houthis in Yemen, potentially resuming Red Sea attacks).
    • Cyberattacks.
    • Further acceleration of their nuclear program, potentially seeking nuclear weapons for deterrence.
  • Regional Instability: The conflict could expand, drawing in other regional and international actors.
  • International Reaction: There would be strong international condemnation from some quarters, while others might support the U.S. action as a necessary measure to prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons. The Arms Control Association has condemned such attacks as "an irresponsible departure from diplomacy."

3. Impact on Iran's Nuclear Program:

  • Setback, Not Elimination: Even if the strike were successful in destroying Fordow, it would likely set back Iran's nuclear program, but not eliminate it entirely. Iran has other facilities and capabilities, and the attack could incentivize them to disperse their nuclear activities further or redouble efforts to achieve a nuclear weapons capability for deterrence.
  • Knowledge and Expertise Remain: The fundamental scientific knowledge and technical expertise for nuclear enrichment would remain in Iran.
  • Potential for Radiological Release: While the IAEA has reported no external radiation detected from recent strikes, a direct hit on an active enrichment facility like Fordow, which has been enriching uranium to 60%, carries a risk of releasing nuclear material and causing contamination within the facility.

4. Domestic U.S. Reactions:

  • Political Divide: Such a move would likely be highly divisive within the U.S., with some supporting it as a strong stance against Iran's nuclear ambitions and others condemning it as an unconstitutional act of war that could drag the U.S. into another protracted Middle East conflict.

In summary, a U.S. strike on Fordow with bunker-busting bombs would be a high-stakes action with potentially profound and unpredictable consequences, significantly escalating the conflict with Iran and reshaping regional dynamics. While it might set back Iran's nuclear program in the short term, it carries a high risk of leading to wider conflict and could ultimately strengthen Iran's resolve to develop nuclear weapons as a deterrent.

 

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1 minute ago, NorthLoop said:

Tony Keith is being tortured in hell by being reminded that he's dead and can't continue grifting the American public by making money off of American tragedy.

Or just his terrible music to begin with. 

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Grok:

Spoiler

If the U.S. were to strike Iran's nuclear facilities at Fordow using bunker-busting bombs, several immediate and long-term consequences could unfold, based on the facility's characteristics, regional dynamics, and global implications. Here's a detailed analysis:
Immediate Effects
  1. Damage to Fordow Facility:
    • Fordow, located near Qom, is a heavily fortified underground uranium enrichment facility, designed to withstand conventional airstrikes. It is built into a mountain, with estimates suggesting it is 60-90 meters deep. The U.S. possesses bunker-busting munitions like the GBU-57 Massive Ordnance Penetrator (MOP), a 30,000-pound bomb capable of penetrating up to 60 meters of earth or 8 meters of reinforced concrete. A successful strike could potentially damage or destroy critical infrastructure, such as centrifuges, but complete neutralization is uncertain due to the facility's depth and hardening.
    • Partial damage might disrupt Iran's enrichment activities, delaying its nuclear program by months or years, depending on the extent of destruction and Iran's ability to rebuild.
  2. Environmental and Radiological Risks:
    • Fordow enriches uranium, primarily to 20% or potentially higher levels. A strike could release radioactive materials, though the risk of widespread contamination is lower compared to a nuclear reactor strike. Localized contamination could affect nearby populations and complicate post-strike recovery.
    • Iran's mountainous terrain around Fordow might contain some radioactive fallout, but winds could carry particles to nearby areas, including Qom.
  3. Iranian Casualties and Response:
    • The facility likely has military and civilian personnel. Casualties would depend on the timing and precision of the strike but could number in the dozens to hundreds.
    • Iran would almost certainly retaliate, potentially through:
      • Missile and Drone Attacks: Iran has a large arsenal of ballistic and cruise missiles, which could target U.S. bases in the region (e.g., in Qatar, UAE, or Iraq), Israeli cities, or Saudi oil infrastructure. Iran's missile accuracy has improved, as seen in its 2020 strike on Al-Asad base in Iraq.
      • Proxy Militia Escalation: Iran could activate proxies like Hezbollah in Lebanon, which has over 150,000 rockets, to attack Israel, or militias in Iraq and Syria to target U.S. forces.
      • Asymmetric Warfare: Iran might conduct cyberattacks, target shipping in the Strait of Hormuz (through which 20% of global oil flows), or sponsor terrorism against U.S. or allied interests.
Regional and Global Consequences
  1. Escalation to Wider Conflict:
    • A U.S. strike could spiral into a broader regional war. Israel, a likely partner or supporter of such an operation, could face intense retaliation from Iran and its proxies. Hezbollah's rocket barrages could overwhelm Israel's Iron Dome, leading to significant civilian casualties.
    • Saudi Arabia and other Gulf states, hosting U.S. forces, might be drawn into the conflict, especially if Iran targets their oil facilities, as it did in the 2019 Abqaiq attack.
    • Russia and China, Iran's strategic partners, might not directly intervene but could provide diplomatic cover, arms, or cyberattacks against U.S. interests.
  2. Impact on Global Energy Markets:
    • Iran could disrupt oil and gas flows through the Strait of Hormuz, either by mining the waterway or attacking tankers. This could spike oil prices, potentially exceeding $100-$150 per barrel, triggering economic shocks globally.
    • Damage to Iran's own oil infrastructure (if retaliatory strikes occur) could further constrain global supply.
  3. Nuclear Program Implications:
    • A successful strike might delay Iran's nuclear ambitions but could also harden its resolve to pursue a nuclear weapon covertly. Iran might abandon the JCPOA (nuclear deal) entirely, if it hasn't already, and accelerate clandestine enrichment at other sites.
    • If the strike fails to significantly damage Fordow, it could embolden Iran, demonstrating the facility's resilience and undermining U.S. credibility.
  4. Diplomatic Fallout:
    • The U.S. would face condemnation from some allies and international bodies like the UN, especially if the strike lacks clear evidence of an imminent Iranian nuclear threat. European allies might support the U.S. privately but publicly call for restraint.
    • Russia and China would likely exploit the situation to rally anti-U.S. sentiment, potentially pushing for sanctions or counter-resolutions at the UN.
    • Arab states like Saudi Arabia and UAE might quietly support the strike but face domestic pressure to distance themselves from the U.S.
  5. Domestic U.S. and Iranian Dynamics:
    • In the U.S., public and political support for the strike would depend on its success and the scale of Iranian retaliation. A prolonged conflict could erode support, especially if oil prices surge or U.S. casualties mount.
    • In Iran, the regime could rally nationalist sentiment, strengthening hardliners and sidelining reformists. However, economic strain from disrupted oil exports and potential sanctions could fuel domestic unrest.
Strategic Considerations
  • U.S. Objectives: The strike would aim to set back Iran's nuclear program and signal deterrence to other adversaries. However, without follow-up diplomatic or military pressure, Iran could rebuild, potentially with foreign assistance.
  • Iran's Resilience: Iran's nuclear program is dispersed across multiple sites (e.g., Natanz, Arak), and its knowledge base cannot be destroyed by airstrikes. A single strike on Fordow might not cripple the program.
  • Intelligence Challenges: The U.S. would need precise intelligence on Fordow's layout and operations to maximize damage. Incomplete intelligence could lead to a failed or counterproductive strike.
  • Timing and Coordination: A strike would likely involve stealth aircraft (e.g., B-2 bombers) and coordination with Israel for missile defense and intelligence. The operation's secrecy would be critical to avoid preemptive Iranian countermeasures.
Long-Term Outcomes
  • Nuclear Proliferation: A strike could push Iran toward a crash nuclear program, especially if it perceives no diplomatic off-ramp. Other regional powers, like Saudi Arabia, might accelerate their own nuclear ambitions.
  • U.S.-Iran Relations: Already strained, bilateral ties could deteriorate further, making future negotiations nearly impossible.
  • Global Power Dynamics: A U.S. strike could reinforce perceptions of unilateralism, alienating some allies while emboldening adversaries to deepen anti-U.S. alliances.
Conclusion
A U.S. strike on Fordow using bunker-busting bombs could delay Iran's nuclear program but would likely trigger significant Iranian retaliation, regional instability, and global economic disruptions. The operation's success would hinge on precise execution and robust post-strike containment strategies. However, without addressing Iran's broader nuclear infrastructure and regional influence, the strike might only postpone, not prevent, Iran's nuclear ambitions, while risking a costly escalation.
If you have specific aspects of this scenario you'd like me to explore further (e.g., military tactics, economic impacts, or diplomatic strategies), let me know!

 

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1 minute ago, BurntEyes said:

I never said that we should ignore history prior to 1979. You're also vastly oversimplifying what happened in 1979 and ignoring what happened since. 

It's like discussing quantum physics with a child.

Point out, specifically, what I said that was wrong. I'll wait. I'm not ignoring what happened since, I'm pro regime change. What you said was still an extremely dumb rationalization that you usually only hear from people that want to manufacture consent for really awful shit.

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Asked ChatGPT if Fordow, Natanz and Esfahan were completely destroyed, how long until Iran could build a nuclear bomb if Iran were fully committed.  It said 2-3 years with undetected/uninterrupted rebuilding.

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1 minute ago, Goredho said:

Asked ChatGPT if Fordow, Natanz and Esfahan were completely destroyed, how long until Iran could build a nuclear bomb if Iran were fully committed.  It said 2-3 years with undetected/uninterrupted rebuilding.

Ask Chat if that latter piece is likely to exist.

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Yeah, what did I say about things getting worse again? I really hope this is fake.

1 minute ago, Rex Kramer said:

You sound very upset. Why is that?

I don't want us to go to war or for any Americans do die at the behest of Israel.

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Posted (edited)
9 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

Point out, specifically, what I said that was wrong. I'll wait. I'm not ignoring what happened since, I'm pro regime change. What you said was still an extremely dumb rationalization that you usually only hear from people that want to manufacture consent for really awful shit.

Fuck sake.

Over the last 40 years has:

The current Iranian Regime been closely aligned with Russia?

Was there a cold war between Russia and the US during a large portion of that time?

Are there still current tensions between the US and Russia?

Has Iran, during the last 40 years attacked the US via proxies multiple times? 

Does the current Iranian regime believe that Israel, the US, Christianity and religious freedom should cease to exist?

Do you believe the actions by the US in Iran prior to 1979 is 100% to blame for 100% of the attacks via proxies by Iran on the US? 

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Just now, Brian Fantana said:

Yeah, what did I say about things getting worse again?

I don't want us to go to war or for any Americans do die at the behest of Israel.

We aren't going to war. We are bombing Iran from afar and letting Israel put boots on the ground and die in that manner.

If this is truly contained, and we did truly obliterate (taking both statements with a bath tub of salt), then this was an amazing and awesome military exercise and America, the region (specifically Israel) and the world is better for it.

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Posted
11 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

"conveyed to Iran through back-channel discussions?"

Does that mean Drunk Pete has Iran on Signal chat?

they share the same login on the Pizza Hut app 

Posted
Just now, BurntEyes said:

Fuck sake.

Over the last 40 years has:

The current Iranian Regime been closely aligned with Russia?

Was there a cold war between Russia and the US during a large portion of that time?

Are there still current tensions between the US and Russia?

Has Iran, during the last 40 years attack the US via proxies multiple times? 

Does the current Iranian regime believe that Israel, the US, Christianity and religious freedom should cease to exist?

Do you believe the actions by the US in prior to 1979 is entirely to blame for the attacks via proxies by Iran on the US? 

What? No, not entirely, my point was you offered the "they hate us cuz they ain't us" take without bothering to offer any historical context at all.

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3 minutes ago, Vegas64 said:

We aren't going to war. We are bombing Iran from afar and letting Israel put boots on the ground and die in that manner.

If this is truly contained, and we did truly obliterate (taking both statements with a bath tub of salt), then this was an amazing and awesome military exercise and America, the region (specifically Israel) and the world is better for it.

I hope you're right.

Posted
Just now, Bill Brasky said:

Saturday night so everyone is drinking or smoking more than usual.  I put the over/under on pages of this thread at 155 by 7am tomorrow 

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Posted
34 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

"God Bless Israel" in a POTUS address to the nation

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AMERICA FIRST!

4 minutes ago, Vegas64 said:

We aren't going to war. We are bombing Iran from afar and letting Israel put boots on the ground and die in that manner.

If this is truly contained, and we did truly obliterate (taking both statements with a bath tub of salt), then this was an amazing and awesome military exercise and America, the region (specifically Israel) and the world is better for it.

This is every client I've ever had who said "we're just filing a quick suit for declaratory judgment."  Yeah--those counterclaims are a real bitch, though.

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10 minutes ago, Message Board User said:

Oct 7 - huge strategic blunder?  Or hugest strategic blunder?

2000 and OU 63-14?

You decide. That clown Brown decided we'd treat the Cotton Bowl as a picnic and authorities were scraping our players off the field in the 2nd quarter. 

 

 

Ugly, yeah.

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Posted
4 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

What? No, not entirely, my point was you offered the "they hate us cuz they ain't us" take without bothering to offer any historical context at all.

To say part of the hate isn’t religious/clan based that’s been going on forever is kinda idiotic.  Yea there’s a lot more going on and has been political wise but the root of it is that and the regime has pretty much said as much.  

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