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1 hour ago, G650 said:

I can tell you it's through the roof here. I've never seen this much Trump shit out.

Where you be?

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23 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Holy shit there are 10 choices for potus/vp on my ballot. I guess if a person wants to vote for a pair that matches all of their views, they could likely do so in Washington. 

Huge argument for Ranked Choice Voting 

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5 hours ago, hookem2010 said:

Sign report from 78665 in WilCo. 4 new Trump signs sprang up seemingly overnight. Current count is 6 to 3 for Harris, and 1 RFK true believer holdout.

I've only been here for about 20 months, but my precinct went fairly easily to Biden in 2020. Overall, not a ton of sign activity in my particular neighborhood.

All of the signs, R and D, that were at the entrance to Steiner Ranch at Quinlan Park are gone. Started with 4 dotard signs a few weeks ago, then inundated with like 30 other signs all over the spectrum. And like that…all gone. 

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2 minutes ago, wood said:

Gladiola Crescent in Green Run, 1975, yo. Probably a real dump now. 

Old Gang Run. My Grandma was a bus driver for Green Run HS for years. Drove Plaxico Burress when he was there.

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1 minute ago, G650 said:

Old Gang Run. My Grandma was a bus driver for Green Run HS for years. Drove Plaxico Burress when he was there.

Yeah it was new when I lived there, so still fairly nice, but on the lower end. Small houses with small yards. Lots of younger Navy families.  /csb

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56 minutes ago, G650 said:

I mean, completely set aside the top. The working class have seen their only relative gains in almost 50 years vis a vis the middle and upper class. It's just not remotely accurate to say.

See that’s the problem. Their only *relative* gain in almost 50 years, and it was tiny, and primarily driven by quitting their jobs and finding new ones in the chaotic aftermath of a calamity.  Even as the basic building blocks of middle class equity continued to accelerate out of reach faster than their income? And who did that accelerated asset price expansion benefit? Oh right- the people at the top whose *wealth* expanded relative to middle class *income*.
 

Tell me again how what I said isn’t “remotely true” and do it like I’m not a person who follows econometrics- I need more examples of Democrats missing the fucking point this fall.

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1 minute ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

See that’s the problem. Their only *relative* gain in almost 50 years, and it was tiny, and primarily driven by quitting their jobs and finding new ones in the chaotic aftermath of a calamity.  Even as the basic building blocks of middle class equity continued to accelerate out of reach faster than their income? And who did that accelerated asset price expansion benefit? Oh right- the people at the top whose *wealth* expanded relative to middle class *income*.
 

Tell me again how what I said isn’t “remotely true” and do it like I’m not a person who follows econometrics- I need more examples of Democrats missing the fucking point this fall.

Well, we need to back up for a minute. Because, first and foremost, I agree with you on the top. And secondly, I took exception to Nate Silvers characterization the first three years of Trump were some sort of good economy, because they sucked dick compared to the last two years. I said nothing about your opinion whatsoever.

 

Thirdly I'm not really a Democrat, though I will be voting almost exclusively for them for the foreseeable future.

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35 minutes ago, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

But yes, you can blame the people who have repeatedly voted against their own interests. 

Remind me who signed the repeal of Glass-Steagal? Remind me to signed the act that made the Bush tax cuts permanent? Remind me who explicitly and intentionally declined to break the link between employment and healthcare? Remind me who declined to pursue action against the bad actors who broke the economy in 2010? Shall I go on?
 

If your point is that the entire Republican economic orthodoxy is wrong about how growth works and is a con job to enrich the top, I agree. If your point is that the last generation of Democrats did not contribute to the massively widening wealth gap while pretending they would, that’s utter nonsense. 

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3 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

the entire Republican economic orthodoxy is wrong about how growth works and is a con job to enrich the top

By the way- this why all the ex Republicans crack me up, because on some level they think all that shit was true, or at least that it was rolled out with good intentions. Like @Brisketexan and people like him believed that that jazz at the time, and a lot of them think that the people who passed it actually believed what they were saying. In that sense Donald Trump’s tariff nonsense is nothing new- like saying tariffs are taxes on foreign countries, Reaganomics was understood to be bullshit at the team. 

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42 minutes ago, Js1 said:

The franchise owner who set it all up 

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I wonder how much the tax payers contribute in income and food aid to his employees and their families on a per hours worked basis…

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12 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Remind me who signed the repeal of Glass-Steagal? Remind me to signed the act that made the Bush tax cuts permanent? Remind me who explicitly and intentionally declined to break the link between employment and healthcare? Remind me who declined to pursue action against the bad actors who broke the economy in 2010? Shall I go on?
 

If your point is that the entire Republican economic orthodoxy is wrong about how growth works and is a con job to enrich the top, I agree. If your point is that the last generation of Democrats did not contribute to the massively widening wealth gap while pretending they would, that’s utter nonsense. 

The Republican-Lite party known as the Democrats, the same way GOP administrations advocated big government projects like construction of the interstate highway system or creating the Environmental Protection Agency in the New Deal Overton Window, yet if Democrats proposed anything of that left-leaning nature it's characterized as a losing election issue for the people-you-cannot-blame. 

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58 minutes ago, Js1 said:

The franchise owner who set it all up 

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So he closed his business for a day and forwent profits to make an in kind campaign contribution for Dotard to make a commercial?

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1 minute ago, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

yet if Democrats proposed anything of that left-leaning nature it's characterized as a losing election issue for the people-you-cannot-blame

Or maybe the problem is that Democrat consulting and candidate class can’t sell those thing because they can’t relate to these problems or the people who have them (and maybe also don’t want them because they mostly belongs to the class on the good side of the widening wealth gap).

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1 hour ago, Js1 said:

The franchise owner who set it all up 

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Ain't nobody got time to read all that. Can someone explain this to me like I'm 5?

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42 minutes ago, G650 said:

Thirdly I'm not really a Democrat, though I will be voting almost exclusively for them for the foreseeable future.

Este, and I would no longer actually describe myself as a Republican either. Probably never will. Just gotta vote for the best person from here on out, and this year the choice is more obvious than ever.

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1 minute ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

He wants more people on salary so he doesn’t have to pay them overtime.

Gotcha. What's the Nazi tie-in?

:i'm lazy today:

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12 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Or maybe the problem is that Democrat consulting and candidate class can’t sell those thing because they can’t relate to these problems or the people who have them (and maybe also don’t want them because they mostly belongs to the class on the good side of the widening wealth gap).

I mean, these consultants are just dreadfully middle class too. Don't get me wrong, when it comes to bagging on their idiocy, I'm here for the gangbang, but they are just a different flavor of middle class shitbag than the Trump voting F250 driver.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, SimonBolivar said:

God 4 more years of this would be so insane, so naturally that's what we're going to do. And he's going to try for a 3rd term too.

Worse. President Vance. 

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Shocking lack of Trump signs in Amelia Island Florida. Dozens of signs about voting NO on prop 4 (the anti-abortion side) but no Trump/Vance signs. Obvious Trump voters putting out signs, but not Trump signs.
Literally not seeing any.   

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6 hours ago, Walser said:

Two things I keep coming back to

1) Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's, and unto God what is God's.

2) There is no compulsion in religion.

I should not be getting so worked up on a Sunday morning. 

I have a feeling when Jesus comes back he is not going to be as forgiving to the Christofascists as he was to the money changers in the Temple.

I mean evangelicals frequently call on thier flock to literally murder thier enemies and cherry pick old testament passages as justify crimes while Forgetting the Ten Commandments or the New Covenant.  For a lot of "Churches" it's all prosperity gospel and cruelty. And you are exactly right, pissed off Jesus has a Lot to be mad about.

A lot of Athiest do a better job of being Christian than most self proclaimed Christians.  I saw a FJB bumper sticker leaving church today.  Out pastor does a wonderful job of clowning on these types, respectfully.

" We need the Ten Commandments in skool!!!"

 

Okay list them. 

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Posted
4 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

Musk and Trump’s vendors are going to knock on a door, ask if they’ve heard of Trump, if they are going to vote, and maybe one or two other things. These are people that are stuck with this job and just trying to hit the quota so they can get paid, and fudging their numbers when they can (including standing on the sidewalk and deciding they aren’t home),

Harris’s door knockers are going to be like fucking cross-fitters or Mormons or desktop Linux users and will do everything they can to sell the person on showing up to vote and why it’s crucial to the country’s future,

At this point it’s not really persuasion, it’s just GOTV: have you voted, do you have a plan to vote, do you need a ride, etc. 

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27 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Or maybe the problem is that Democrat consulting and candidate class can’t sell those thing because they can’t relate to these problems or the people who have them (and maybe also don’t want them because they mostly belongs to the class on the good side of the widening wealth gap).

Kamala, who actually did work at a McDonald's, has less working class cred than Franklin Roosevelt?

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4 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

I still find it hard to believe that this dude

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is this dude:

 

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Keanu Reeves WHOAH GIF.

TIL this.

My Local Gym owner has a major lady boner for this character.  Posters, full size cut outs etc.

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All I know is I am sick of seeing ads every 5 minutes about Kamala giving taxpayer money to transgender prisoners (add in the anti Allred/Cruz ads scaring people that Allred is voting to give all kids sex change operations).  If Trump wins based on shit like this I truly will wish the worst for all the people that voted for him.  I’m a fairly rich white male so I am pretty sure neither president will affect my life but for those that vote for these guys and then can’t afford health care and die in their double wide, or freeze to death when the electricity/gas fails in Texas or lose their jobs because the corporations move overseas, I will have a smile on my face from ear to ear and won’t feel one ounce of sadness towards those people.  It sucks it will hurt tons of people that actually vote for Kamala/Allred and get hurt but I am kind of done with this country if Trump actually wins.  My father always said, “the people get the government and politicians they deserve based on how they vote”.  Sadly, he was right and we are about to fuck around and find out in the worst way.  

 

All this doom and gloom is probably because I am pissed about the UT football game yesterday but this shit is tiring.  I will vote and do my part but I can’t even watch the news channels anymore for fear I may have a stroke from the anger they induce. 

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9 minutes ago, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

Kamala, who actually did work at a McDonald's, has less working class cred than Franklin Roosevelt?

Yep! Does that not seem like a failure to connect for you?

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1 minute ago, Beantown Express 2.0 said:

All I know is I am sick of seeing ads every 5 minutes about Kamala giving taxpayer money to transgender prisoners (add in the anti Allred/Cruz ads scaring people that Allred is voting to give all kids sex change operations).  If Trump wins based on shit like this I truly will wish the worst for all the people that voted for him.  I’m a fairly rich white male so I am pretty sure neither president will affect my life but for those that vote for these guys and then can’t afford health care and die in their double wide, or freeze to death when the electricity/gas fails in Texas or lose their jobs because the corporations move overseas, I will have a smile on my face from ear to ear and won’t feel one ounce of sadness towards those people.  It sucks it will hurt tons of people that actually vote for Kamala/Allred and get hurt but I am kind of done with this country if Trump actually wins.  My father always said, “the people get the government and politicians they deserve based on how they vote”.  Sadly, he was right and we are about to fuck around and find out in the worst way.  

 

All this doom and gloom is probably because I am pissed about the UT football game yesterday but this shit is tiring.  I will vote and do my part but I can’t even watch the news channels anymore for fear I may have a stroke from the anger they induce. 

I identify with these remarks. I’m unsure if my day to day will be impacted much by who wins but I can’t believe that so many people, who are hurting, want to vote for Trump. Some of them are willing to crawl thru broken glass to vote for Trump, even at the expense of making their life worse as long as they show them transgenders who’s boss.

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20 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Shocking lack of Trump signs in Amelia Island Florida. Dozens of signs about voting NO on prop 4 (the anti-abortion side) but no Trump/Vance signs. Obvious Trump voters putting out signs, but not Trump signs.
Literally not seeing any.   

What is with the “supposed” turnaround of The Villages to voting for Kamala?  That’s bullshit right?

Posted
9 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

I haven’t followed her career closely but has Sage Steele always been a Trump supporter?

It’s been discussed here multiple times over the last few years. A quick search should do you well.

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47 minutes ago, CTC2 said:

So he closed his business for a day and forwent profits to make an in kind campaign contribution for Dotard to make a commercial?

“A tremendous commercial.  A commercial the likes of which has never been seen.  A commercial that is amazing.  They’re eating pets you know.”

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Michigan SOS Benson says full results for Michigan should be done by Wednesday night. Though I’m sure we will have a pretty good idea Tuesday night based on the returns from Detroit and the suburbs. 

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