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Posted (edited)
On 9/15/2025 at 3:10 PM, utee94 said:

Questions for medical experts?

Does taking ketamine help give you grandiose ideas? 
 

Asking for a friend. 
 

Not sure why UTEE quote is there. 

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4 minutes ago, Shaddie said:

Questions for medical experts?

Does taking ketamine help give you grandiose ideas? 
 

Asking for a friend. 

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You know spacex is failing when NASA insiders are leaking to the NYT about how far behind the program is. Apparently <gasp> Elmo has over-promised and under-delivered.

https://archive.ph/5iIrb

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The former reality tv dude who's now head of NASA among other roles for which he's highly unqualified (FAA, USDOT) says there's nothing to see.

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Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy, the acting NASA administrator, said in a statement to The Times that he was standing by the current SpaceX plan.

 

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9 minutes ago, Chopper said:

You know spacex is failing when NASA insiders are leaking to the NYT about how far behind the program is. Apparently <gasp> Elmo has over-promised and under-delivered.

https://archive.ph/5iIrb

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The former reality tv dude who's now head of NASA among other roles for which he's highly unqualified (FAA, USDOT) says there's nothing to see.

 

Smarter Every Day has an excellent video about the current "moon mission" and it's planning shortcomings. After his talk (over a year ago now) NASA even amended their mission plan to address unaccounted orbital refuelings from Starship to Starship. 18 refuelings PER MOON TRIP, and they haven't even successfully demonstrated orbital flight, much less orbital cryogenic refueling 

 

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Posted
8 minutes ago, Captainant said:

NASA even amended their mission plan to address unaccounted orbital refuelings from Starship to Starship. 18 refuelings PER MOON TRIP, and they haven't even successfully demonstrated orbital flight, much less orbital cryogenic refueling 

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4 hours ago, Captainant said:

NASA even amended their mission plan to address unaccounted orbital refuelings from Starship to Starship. 18 refuelings PER MOON TRIP

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“As the seasons change, the refueling continues.”

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Posted
8 hours ago, tbone_ said:

It’s truly bizarre. For the first 53 or so years of my life I was able to pretty much have a normal conversation with just about anyone. The last 2-3, all bets are off. Many otherwise seemingly normal and intelligent people have just completely lost their minds. Craziest thing I’ve ever seen and I did not see this coming. 

Covid broke everyone's brain. 

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25 minutes ago, immamac said:

Covid broke everyone's brain. 

Do you really think it’s just covid? I mean certainly that was a big influence.

 

But I think the media machinery we’ve developed to relentlessly pound never ending messaging into people’s brains is the bigger culprit. We’re not wired to handle that well as a species imo. And yes , I know, water is wet.

 

I always thought big brother would force himself on us. Never dreamed we’d willingly invite him in.

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15 minutes ago, tbone_ said:

Do you really think it’s just covid? I mean certainly that was a big influence.

 

But I think the media machinery we’ve developed to relentlessly pound never ending messaging into people’s brains is the bigger culprit. We’re not wired to handle that well as a species imo. And yes , I know, water is wet.

 

I always thought big brother would force himself on us. Never dreamed we’d willingly invite him in.

It was definitely covid. It changed everything for nearly everyone and the new normal is the problem. Covid in america exposed a lot of bullshit and the level of grift and reward system for pure grift has been elevated to be not only acceptable, but mandatory for success. Its all bullshit all the time with a complete breakdown in trust everywhere. 

Part of what you are talking about is in large part due to covid. 

This is a uniquely american problem. If you travel much to other countries it's significantly less fucked up. 

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Posted (edited)
10 hours ago, F250 said:

Least week, I was at a happy hour with some software vendors we have a partnership with. There was one guy who I had previously interacted with a lot and is very smart and talented so I started a conversation with him. 

We are having some drinks and discussing some potential projects regarding agentic AI and DFIR. The discussion was great and then xAI and Grok come up. This guy starts criticizing OpenAI and Altman, I was agreement with his criticism. Then the conversation pivots back to Grok/xAI.

This guy explains only Elon can be trusted with AI, then praises Grok switches to Tesla and how great Robotaxi will be. Then starts talking about the future with Optimus. His eyes are lit up like someone talking about Jesus and heaven. Fucking talking about living on Mars and Elon making sure everyone will have UBI because Elon has a vision for our future. 

I brought up Waymo and all the Zoox robotaxis we were seeing in Vegas. Mentioned all of the robot companies already ahead of Tesla and circled back to the xAI issues. The dude just waved it off and said Elon's vision is coming together and nobody can scale like Elon.

That was my first time interacting with an Elon fanboi in real life and towards the end of the conversation I just sat there like Walter Googins in The White Lotus. 

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TL;DR: 

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I would be interested in the criticism of OpenAI and Altman. I certainly agree they deserve some, just wondering that these were.

I will say that no single person can be trusted with AI. I question that companies can because they are at a major level held by a single leader. And Elon has demonstrated that he absolutely can't be.

Optimus, Mars, UBI - oh ok sure.

Waymo/Zoox/Robotaxi - This is great talk, but until Tesla is doing ANY autonomous rides, they aren't just behind in the race, they still haven't gotten out of the workshop to get on the track.

I will admit - they can scale, and I agree he is poised to be ready to get going, but they are still way behind and not ready to take advantage. And - nobody? There is this small country he might have heard about - China - that has that all down in spades.

I say that guy needs to take off the blinders, because there is a lot that he is missing.

Also - what software company does he work for? Sounds like I need to cross them off the list with this kind of stupidity that their engineers run around with.

 

51 minutes ago, immamac said:

Covid broke everyone's brain. 

 

20 minutes ago, tbone_ said:

Do you really think it’s just covid? I mean certainly that was a big influence.

 

But I think the media machinery we’ve developed to relentlessly pound never ending messaging into people’s brains is the bigger culprit. We’re not wired to handle that well as a species imo. And yes , I know, water is wet.

 

I always thought big brother would force himself on us. Never dreamed we’d willingly invite him in.

 

Social media * Covid

 

You throw everyone in a bubble and let social media just pound in their heads day in, day out. It breaks people. We were already heading down a bad path with social media alone*, but throw in the isolation that a once in a lifetime pandemic and you have a really bad mix for society as a whole.

Hell, social media in the hands of just a few is proof enough that no single person should be in control of any AI. Zuck is basically showing us he doesn't give a damn about anything. He would hook his own mom, wife, kids on heroin if he would result in another $0.10 a share on Meta's stock price.

 

 

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Posted
27 minutes ago, tbone_ said:

I always thought big brother would force himself on us. Never dreamed we’d willingly invite him in.

Our dystopia is closer to Brave New World than it is 1984

7 minutes ago, immamac said:

Social media exists outside of America and its not as big of an issue. Americans are fucked up. 

America is fucked up because we don't protect people from companies and corporations. Europe has the GDPR and meaningful punishments for violating people's data sovereignty. Here in the US, that sort of shit is table stakes for basically all of the Mag7, which put more effort into advertising and data harvesting than they do their products and outcomes.

See also: enshittification thread

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3 minutes ago, Captainant said:

Our dystopia is closer to Brave New World than it is 1984

America is fucked up because we don't protect people from companies and corporations. Europe has the GDPR and meaningful punishments for violating people's data sovereignty. Here in the US, that sort of shit is table stakes for basically all of the Mag7, which put more effort into advertising and data harvesting than they do their products and outcomes.

See also: enshittification thread

America is fucked up because of Americans. 

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7 minutes ago, Longhornfan1024 said:

Americans have been conditioned to value the success of corporations and billionaires over themselves and the other common person.  

Its because boomers and gen x failed as parents and the government has largely been in a freefall collapse since citizens united 

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20 minutes ago, immamac said:

Its because boomers and gen x failed as parents and the government has largely been in a freefall collapse since citizens united 

I do think the growth of the farcical "rugged individualism" mindset has also led to a massive rot and decay in civics in general. There's a whooooole bunch of "fuck you I got mine" in baiscally every aspect of life now, and it's exceedingly rare to see someone doing the right thing just because it's the right thing. 

Everything boils down to a P/L statement - even fucking schools are holding poor children to account for not being able to pay for food at a place the government makes them be. 

Because if he do anything with social benefit, it's SOCIALISM(!!!!) and we're gonna train people to be helpless, or some bullshit like that

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2 minutes ago, Captainant said:

I do think the growth of the farcical "rugged individualism" mindset has also led to a massive rot and decay in civics in general. There's a whooooole bunch of "fuck you I got mine" in baiscally every aspect of life now, and it's exceedingly rare to see someone doing the right thing just because it's the right thing. 

Everything boils down to a P/L statement - even fucking schools are holding poor children to account for not being able to pay for food at a place the government makes them be. 

Because if he do anything with social benefit, it's SOCIALISM(!!!!) and we're gonna train people to be helpless, or some bullshit like that

Its impossible to truly understand how massive the revenue numbers for the top tech companies are. Everything is a scam. 

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12 minutes ago, immamac said:

Its impossible to truly understand how massive the revenue numbers for the top tech companies are. Everything is a scam. 

There's a hideous degree of mark-to-market accounting going on in the tech space too right now. For just one example, Oracle building their HUGE fuck-off datacenter in Abiline has led to massive stock value growth, but they don't have nearly enough capital to actually build the thing on time and start getting the revenue out of it that they've already marked down as "definitely going to happen".

It's the same shell game of hypecycle pump and dump that led to the dotcom and housing bubbles.

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20 minutes ago, Captainant said:

There's a hideous degree of mark-to-market accounting going on in the tech space too right now. For just one example, Oracle building their HUGE fuck-off datacenter in Abiline has led to massive stock value growth, but they don't have nearly enough capital to actually build the thing on time and start getting the revenue out of it that they've already marked down as "definitely going to happen".

It's the same shell game of hypecycle pump and dump that led to the dotcom and housing bubbles.

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29 minutes ago, Captainant said:

There's a hideous degree of mark-to-market accounting going on in the tech space too right now. For just one example, Oracle building their HUGE fuck-off datacenter in Abiline has led to massive stock value growth, but they don't have nearly enough capital to actually build the thing on time and start getting the revenue out of it that they've already marked down as "definitely going to happen".

It's the same shell game of hypecycle pump and dump that led to the dotcom and housing bubbles.

 

2 minutes ago, F250 said:

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Remember how in those previous bubbles, anyone who dared call out the fact that it was all pump-and-dump/shell game shit built on vapor and/or irrational assumptions was decried as a combination of "too dumb to understand sophisticated business transactions/accounting," were "anti-capitalist," etc. etc.?

Pepperidge Farm remembers.

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Posted (edited)
7 minutes ago, Chopper said:

Some believe Elmo isn't stupid enough to believe his own Mars bs and that he has a different goal in mind.

He’s been obsessed with Mars for forever.  If it was all about Starlink, he wouldn’t shut the fuck op about Starlink. There’s no need to bury it or try to divert attention away from it.  In fact, he’d be using that to raise funds.  

And if all of the stuff with NASA and the moon and Mars was all about him just trying to get more Starlink satellites up there and it gets exposed, government contracts will dry up real fast. They’ll get investigated.  Probably heavily penalized probably problems with the FAA and NASA going forward for launches.

 

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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Captainant said:

There's a hideous degree of mark-to-market accounting going on in the tech space too right now. For just one example, Oracle building their HUGE fuck-off datacenter in Abiline has led to massive stock value growth, but they don't have nearly enough capital to actually build the thing on time and start getting the revenue out of it that they've already marked down as "definitely going to happen".

It's the same shell game of hypecycle pump and dump that led to the dotcom and housing bubbles.

 

Let's also not ignore the fact that the Oracle-OpenAI deal is basically made up numbers predicated on a big hopes and dreams. Just to catch you all up

https://www.wsj.com/business/openai-oracle-sign-300-billion-computing-deal-among-biggest-in-history-ff27c8fe

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This deal drove Oracle to the moon, it made Larry Ellison the richest man in the world.

When you look at the deal:
A. It's really $30 Billion a year for 10 years
B. OpenAI doesn't just have that money  laying around.

In the end, its also smoke and mirrors based on OpenAI constantly growing. Maybe they will, but maybe they won't. Then what?

That said, Oracle will have the datacenter and make bank selling compute to anyone else. But still, those deals aren't yet made.

 

BTW - If you didn't know Oracle is really an acronym. It should be O.R.A.C.L.E. - "One Rich Asshole Called Larry Ellison"

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Posted
42 minutes ago, Chopper said:

Some believe Elmo isn't stupid enough to believe his own Mars bs and that he has a different goal in mind.

 

 

I don't understand the fascination with Starlink as the end all be all. Don't get me wrong - they are a very solid ISP. But that's it - they are an ISP. If I have any real terrestrial high-speed alternative, I will use that instead of Starlink. Sure they are going to dominate a lot of the market for airlines etc. But the way everyone talks , they make it sound as if they are going to be used by everyone and that just won't be the case.

Plus he is going to face competition in this market. I just see them as one among many.

Posted
3 hours ago, immamac said:

Social media exists outside of America and its not as big of an issue. Americans are fucked up. 

 

I might note that Covid came at a very bad time for the US. Society was already fracturing as "us vs them" and Covid amplified that (hence multiplication not addition in my equation above). We were fucked up due to social, political and racial issues, Covid drove us further into our silos and the results are where we are now.

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