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12 minutes ago, BabaYaga said:

They can post all they want where they want.  It's all the tried/true CR ad hominem attacks on posters, sources, and links that turn most threads into piles of giant shit.

 

You of all people really should not be bitching about this.

 

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2 minutes ago, BabaYaga said:

They can post all they want where they want.  It's all the tried/true CR ad hominem attacks on posters, sources, and links that turn most threads into piles of giant shit.

 

I’ve thought and repeated this line often.  Again I posted this yesterday. 
 

but, I have figured out, and I do owe this website a lot of credit, for teaching me to be more accepting of people, regardless of severity of political leanings. To a point….

 

 I’ve had interactions this week or “reactions” from people who have never done anything but “fuck you” me. 
 

find neutral ground before you shit completely on the beliefs they’ve had just as long and just as passionate as you are. Then work on differences in a healthy way. 
 

maybe it’s a pipe dream?  But I think it is what we have to do with where we are now in this political hate each side has for each other. Because it goes from political hate to hatred of the person too damn quickly anymore. 
 

 

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While I acknowledge firsthand how easy it is to get sucked in, I humbly suggest that everyone just ignore this shit because it isn't important, it just seems like it should be.  It's really just a bunch of dicks, whether the protestors or the cops/elected officals, playing games with no real consequences. It's theater.  There are more interesting and more important things to spend your time and energy on.  Like getting laid.  Or taking a nap.  Or taking a nap after you get laid.

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7 minutes ago, bolverk said:

 

It's not full of exciting videos (though there are some clips), but you could periodically check the AP for updates if all you're looking for is news instead of inflammatory commentary.

https://apnews.com/live/college-protests-palestine-updates

 

Watching unfiltered and unedited live streams, as was suggested, isn't a bad idea either. On YouTube, you can search for the terms protest and Palestine and then click "live," like I have here.

Thank you sir. 

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2 minutes ago, Samson's Wig said:

While I acknowledge firsthand how easy it is to get sucked in, I humbly suggest that everyone just ignore this shit because it isn't important, it just seems like it should be.  It's really just a bunch of dicks, whether the protestors or the cops/elected officals, playing games with no real consequences. It's theater.  There are more interesting and more important things to spend your time and energy on.  Like getting laid.  Or taking a nap.  Or taking a nap after you get laid.

Yeah, the thing about these protests in particular is that, historically speaking (so far at least), they're actually fairly small and low impact. People like to hype them up for various reasons and cops love any excuse to put on the riot gear and crack skulls and lie to the press and strut around pretending to be important.  And most of these protesters themselves are dumbasses with no cohesive theory of effectuating change and their demands (when they have any) are barely even tied to what they're protesting against.  

Even at Columbia, which seems to have been the worst of these, nothing that has happened has even approached the standard English soccer riot in terms of violence or property destruction.  

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20 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

Yes, the message of their protest is about the actual issue...

...Their message is sound.  But it's silenced by its execution. 

One of the main problems for them is that this is NOT true.  The message is fractured and scattered.  There are some pushing for divestiture. Some simply want a "Free Palestine."  There are others coopting the protests for a more inflammatory anti-Israeli stance, and then some just wandering around yelling "oink like a piggie oink oink."

But I do agree that, for those that are actually protesting in favor of divestiture, they're doing it wrong, in the wrong place, to the wrong people, in the wrong way, and they're letting themselves get overrun and drowned out by the idiots. 

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Just now, utee94 said:

One of the main problems for them is that this is NOT true.  The message is fractured and scattered.  There are some pushing for divestiture. Some simply want a "Free Palestine."  There are others coopting the protests for a more inflammatory anti-Israeli stance, and then some just wandering around yelling "oink like a piggie oink oink."

But I do agree that, for those that are actually protesting in favor of divestiture, they're doing it wrong, in the wrong place, to the wrong people, in the wrong way, and they're letting themselves get overrun and drowned out by the idiots. 

I hope you're not just making this up because if this is happening it's very funny.

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37 minutes ago, Samson's Wig said:

While I acknowledge firsthand how easy it is to get sucked in, I humbly suggest that everyone just ignore this shit because it isn't important, it just seems like it should be.  It's really just a bunch of dicks, whether the protestors or the cops/elected officals, playing games with no real consequences. It's theater.  There are more interesting and more important things to spend your time and energy on.  Like getting laid.  Or taking a nap.  Or taking a nap after you get laid.

I'm starting a protest if I don't get my sammich after sex and before my nap.

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Can someone help keep track of all the accidental right wing memes these leftist protestors are doing.

So far we’ve got:

1. Racist “coded” slogans and chants

2. Colonizing campus lawns and instituting closed border policy

3. Breaching of an institutional building

4. Excusing it as agitated by false flag operators

5. And the genesis of their very own Ray Epps conspirary…

Oh and the sitting potus with his fine people on both sides statement.

 

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53 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

You of all people really should not be bitching about this.

 

Don't make ad hominem attacks.  What happens, get an ad hominem attack.  Never change CR'ers....

Posted
2 minutes ago, BeardIP said:

I would imagine 90% of those involved aren’t aware of the information in this post.

and 100% of them not on mommy/daddy's silver spoon would take scholarship monies if offered that had investments in sed "evil corporations".

They're just dumb kids.  rant all you want, it's this escalatory shit that moves the needle - and not in their favor.

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3 minutes ago, HendersonHorns said:

So she may be….., freaky?

 

 She should be blowing up as the best “hippie/commie” facesitter. 
 

@YGIFS 

good target lock on. Two targets, hard to miss. 

Well, considering that she doesn't even have an IMDB profile and frankly a surprising lack of social media presence that I could easily discover.. 

I'm going to just go with, someone us probably funding her protest efforts.

Individually... 

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7 minutes ago, BabaYaga said:

Don't make ad hominem attacks.  What happens, get an ad hominem attack.  Never change CR'ers....

If you think people shouldn't be allowed to criticize your sources when your sources have included literal neonazi websites in the past then what you're telling us is that you think you should be able to post literal neonazi propaganda without challenge. 

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4 minutes ago, BeardIP said:

Disrupting university education and making students feel unsafe because Columbia owns $277k of a BlackRock corporate bond ETF is insane, and, frankly, hypocritical for many involved. Disrupting a university for owning the S&P 500 implies 1 or 2 things: a misunderstanding of “investing” or a lack of knowledge about what you’re protesting in the first place. I would imagine 90% of those involved aren’t aware of the information in this post.

An endowment worth $14B with a claimed net total of a few hundred thousand dollars in broad funds and large cap equities….whose interest in Israel-adjacent activities is an even smaller fraction…..is somehow benefiting from or is supporting Israel. 

The ignoramuses are on this website too. They show up on the 6th Street Journal threads. 

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48 minutes ago, utee94 said:

One of the main problems for them is that this is NOT true.  The message is fractured and scattered.  There are some pushing for divestiture. Some simply want a "Free Palestine."  There are others coopting the protests for a more inflammatory anti-Israeli stance, and then some just wandering around yelling "oink like a piggie oink oink."

But I do agree that, for those that are actually protesting in favor of divestiture, they're doing it wrong, in the wrong place, to the wrong people, in the wrong way, and they're letting themselves get overrun and drowned out by the idiots. 

In net, I really do wonder how many know what, exactly they hope to accomplish with their protests. Yes, they are also co-opted by general shit flingers looking for "fun" too.

I recall speaking with one of the Occupy folks calmly and civilly in Chicago.

After the broad strokes of the "message" (general propaganda that meant nothing really) I asked what he actually hoped would be accomplished. What change did he want? What was the goal? 

He really didn't have any answer at all. Eventually, I just left and went to a bar.

I am not saying that my single example is representative of the entire group then or if it similar to this one, but... I would wager I'd get similar results with a similar conversation.

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22 minutes ago, BeardIP said:

Disrupting university education and making students feel unsafe because Columbia owns $277k of a BlackRock corporate bond ETF is insane, and, frankly, hypocritical for many involved. Disrupting a university for owning the S&P 500 implies 1 or 2 things: a misunderstanding of “investing” or a lack of knowledge about what you’re protesting in the first place. I would imagine 90% of those involved aren’t aware of the information in this post.image.thumb.png.660470652cfb29ebff57598aae776b14.pngimage.thumb.png.4a25b35b099cae5e77842af6e1f6e75c.pngimage.thumb.png.cb7bc9620fcedaceed50c454afc9e8ac.pngimage.thumb.png.0f9acdf579a5d05ee7ced42caec23b57.png

It's more insane to spend millions on overtime for cops to protect their right to hold onto those funds.

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22 minutes ago, BeardIP said:

Otherwise I really struggle with why this is all happening now.

I know! It’s weird, right? What obscure event presumably happening in some hidden corner of the world could possibly have inspired these massive protests against Israel’s recent invasion of Gaza?

I guess we’ll never know…

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https://apnews.com/article/northwestern-students-israel-palestinians-protest-c3698198f13c986d6bc238ff96081f9d?utm_campaign=TrueAnthem&utm_medium=AP&utm_source=Twitter

Some universities are actually figuring out a way to resolve this without tear gas and concussion grenades.

And a reminder that the best deals are the ones in which all parties walk away thinking they got taken to the cleaners.

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Rodney Dangerfield is rolling over in his grave at the casting for "Back to School II: Senior Year"  

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39 minutes ago, GopherRock said:

https://apnews.com/article/northwestern-students-israel-palestinians-protest-c3698198f13c986d6bc238ff96081f9d?utm_campaign=TrueAnthem&utm_medium=AP&utm_source=Twitter

Some universities are actually figuring out a way to resolve this without tear gas and concussion grenades.

And a reminder that the best deals are the ones in which all parties walk away thinking they got taken to the cleaners.

 

Brown and Johns Hopkins are trying to work it out, too.

 

Posted
23 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

lol. “So, still no evidence that the protestors aren’t students, eh?”

”Yeah shut up, fucktard ”:image.thumb.png.1f41945691c80c64b1ec8369c50a55cc.png

"I found one guy"

Do you know he's not faculty or staff?

Posted
2 hours ago, Make em eat Taco Bell said:

brings back 1980s West Mall memories of "The Shack" being smashed every time by WC Frats.  That ornament was a simple structure symbolizing the plight of South African blacks living under apartheid. 

Maybe it happened later than 1984 after I graduated, but I went through the West Mall 4-6 times a day from 1980-1984 and never saw anything being smashed.  There was always some kind of peaceful protest or demonstration (almost always sparsely attended) happening on the West Mall but the frat guys, speaking for myself and the ones I observed, just walked on by.  And nobody ever blocked my way or threatened me.  

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Friendly reminder.  The last time we went through a bunch of unrest and turmoil, we got actual life-endangering violence.

This guy:

Texas Department of Criminal Justice Inmate Search

Now resides in Brazoria County and doesn't have to worry about things like bills or income taxes anymore.  I bet he would do things differently if given a chance.

This guy:  

Garrett Foster: Protester Killed In Austin BLM Shooting (rollingstone.com)

Well he's experiencing Valhalla now.  I'm sure it's glorious and all.

I for one would like to see people behave with some decency.  I don't like you or your politics, you don't like me and mine, fine - fuck you - but can we not destroy things including human lives?

 

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Bottom row, middle pic.  That dude looks like the half-brother of both Jimmy Smits and Rafi from "The League."  Apparently being the middle sibling made him a rage-fueled campus stalker.  

Posted
8 minutes ago, HouTex said:

Maybe it happened later than 1984 after I graduated, but I went through the West Mall 4-6 times a day from 1980-1984 and never saw anything being smashed.  There was always some kind of peaceful protest or demonstration (almost always sparsely attended) happening on the West Mall but the frat guys, speaking for myself and the ones I observed, just walked on by.  And nobody ever blocked my way or threatened me.  

Started in 1985 and the "shanty" got wrecked all the time, if you can call it that, since it looked pretty bad to begin with.  The frat guys always got blamed, so I just went with that.

Growing up in Austin, I went to the drag and west mall all the time, especially in high school and I don't even remember seeing the shanty then.

I remember a couple of protests I had to shuffle through, but no big deal.

The most annoying thing were the pamphletiers that were on campus. The Jews for Jesus guys were especially pushy. Not sure why I got the treatment. I guess it was the blond hair and blue eyes with a pagan smirk on my face that drew them in.  I also remember my Antisemitism in History and Literature professor, who was Jewish, hated that group in particular based on the stupidity of the idea alone.

That was a different time and I'm pretty sure the administration thought all of the South Africa stuff was cute compared to all the Vietnam protests just a few years earlier.

Also, the Texas economy was in the shitter back then, so we were all just fighting to stay employed.

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Posted
1 hour ago, wildcat09 said:

If you think people shouldn't be allowed to criticize your sources when your sources have included literal neonazi websites in the past then what you're telling us is that you think you should be able to post literal neonazi propaganda without challenge. 

Get fucked.  How the hell does your partisan, broken brain, make this leap?

OK, let's unpack this for the last time.  The shooter in question in the post was alleged to be some Nazi fuck, and others were calling him a lefty.  Everyone was trying to determine the shooters’ identity and affiliation.  It was either Reddit or Texags or something but a link was posted confirming he was in fact a sympathizer.  So I posted it.  It was later verified to be accurate. 

The confirmation was prefaced that I don’t know anything about the site nor was I advocating for this site but here it is and yes, the dude’s a dirtbag.  Full stop. 

Posted
53 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

I bet it wouldn’t be difficult to determine most aren’t students. But I have a significant lack of motivation in doing so. I don’t give a flying fuck if he’s faculty or staff, as if that makes it any better. Jesus dude. 

It's bad for faculty to be on campus? What was your point?

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My one Duke buddy sent me this. Unreal that these protestors have managed to drive him against his natural state of hatred for all things UNC.

 

https://www.gofundme.com/f/pi-kappa-phi-men-defended-their-flag-throw-em-a-rager

Commie losers across the country have invaded college campuses to make dumb demands of weak University Administrators.

But amidst the chaos, the screaming, the anti-semitism, the hatred of faith and flag, stood a platoon of American heroes. Armored in Vineyard Vines and Patagonia, fueled by Zyn and White Claws, these triumphant Brohemians protected Old Glory from the unwashed Marxist horde -- laughing at their shrieks and wails and shielding the Stars & Stripes from Soviet missiles.

These boys... no, men, of the UNC Chapel Hill Pi Kappa Phi, gave the best to America and now they deserve the best.

Help us raise funds to throw this frat the party they deserve, a party worth of the boat-shoed Broleteriat who did their country proud.

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4 minutes ago, Da Fino said:

My one Duke buddy sent me this. Unreal that these protestors have managed to drive him against his natural state of hatred for all things UNC.

 

https://www.gofundme.com/f/pi-kappa-phi-men-defended-their-flag-throw-em-a-rager

Commie losers across the country have invaded college campuses to make dumb demands of weak University Administrators.

But amidst the chaos, the screaming, the anti-semitism, the hatred of faith and flag, stood a platoon of American heroes. Armored in Vineyard Vines and Patagonia, fueled by Zyn and White Claws, these triumphant Brohemians protected Old Glory from the unwashed Marxist horde -- laughing at their shrieks and wails and shielding the Stars & Stripes from Soviet missiles.

These boys... no, men, of the UNC Chapel Hill Pi Kappa Phi, gave the best to America and now they deserve the best.

Help us raise funds to throw this frat the party they deserve, a party worth of the boat-shoed Broleteriat who did their country proud.

Even one is too many.

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University administrators canceled classes at UCLA on Wednesday, hours after violence broke out at a pro-Palestinian encampment set up on campus.

Just before midnight, a large group of counterdemonstrators, wearing black outfits and white masks, arrived on campus and tried to tear down the barricades surrounding the encampment. Campers, some holding lumber and wearing goggles and helmets, rallied to defend the encampment’s perimeter. The violence occurred hours after the university declared that the camp was “unlawful and violates university policy.”

Videos showed fireworks being set off and at least one being thrown into the camp. Over several hours, counterdemonstrators threw objects, including wood and a metal barrier, at the camp and those inside, with fights repeatedly breaking out. Some tried to force their way into the camp, and the pro-Palestinian side used pepper spray to defend themselves.

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One representative of the camp said the counterdemonstrators repeatedly pushed over barricades that outline the boundaries of the encampment, and some campers said they were hit by a substance they thought was pepper spray. As counterprotesters attempted to pull down the wood boards surrounding the encampment, at least one person could be heard yelling, “Second nakba,” referring to the mass displacement and dispossession of Palestinians during the 1948 Arab-Israeli war.

Daily Bruin News Editor Catherine Hamilton said she was sprayed with some type of irritant and repeatedly punched in the chest and upper abdomen as she was reporting on the unrest. Another student journalist was pushed to the ground by counterprotesters and was beaten and kicked for nearly a minute. Hamilton was treated at a hospital and released.

“I truly did not expect to be directly assaulted. I know that these individuals — at least the individual who initiated the mobilization against us — knew that we were journalists,” she said. “And while I did not think that protected us from harassment, I thought that might have [prevented us from being] assaulted. I was mistaken.”

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“What we’ve just witnessed was the darkest day in my 32 years at UCLA,” said David Myers, a professor of Jewish history at UCLA who is working on initiatives to bridge differences on campus. He called the situation a “complete and total systems failure at the university, city and state levels.”

“Why didn’t the police, UCPD and LAPD, show up? Those in the encampment were defenseless in the face of a violent band of thugs. And no one, wherever they stand politically, is safer today,” Myers said.

Ananya Roy, a professor of urban planning, social welfare and geography, echoed concerns about the university’s lack of response when faced with a violent counterprotest.

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https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2024-04-30/ucla-moves-to-shut-down-pro-palestinian-encampment-as-unlawful

Posted (edited)
14 minutes ago, Da Fino said:

My one Duke buddy sent me this. Unreal that these protestors have managed to drive him against his natural state of hatred for all things UNC.

 

https://www.gofundme.com/f/pi-kappa-phi-men-defended-their-flag-throw-em-a-rager

Commie losers across the country have invaded college campuses to make dumb demands of weak University Administrators.

But amidst the chaos, the screaming, the anti-semitism, the hatred of faith and flag, stood a platoon of American heroes. Armored in Vineyard Vines and Patagonia, fueled by Zyn and White Claws, these triumphant Brohemians protected Old Glory from the unwashed Marxist horde -- laughing at their shrieks and wails and shielding the Stars & Stripes from Soviet missiles.

These boys... no, men, of the UNC Chapel Hill Pi Kappa Phi, gave the best to America and now they deserve the best.

Help us raise funds to throw this frat the party they deserve, a party worth of the boat-shoed Broleteriat who did their country proud.

The ultimate goal of a protest should be to influence.  Every successful protest in our nation's history is viewed that way because of what resulted from the protest, not the act of protesting itself. 

At some point, the goal has shifted to merely performative - influence be damned.  There is no longer any targeted goal of winning over dissenting viewpoints, the only goal is attention.  Somehow leading the nightly news, for good or bad, has become the objective.

From an influence perspective, it's hard to articulate how utterly unsuccessful these protests have been in advancing their message.  Have they gained a single supporter that wasn't already sympathetic to their cause?  Do they understand how impossible it should be to make Carolina frat boys the sympathetic figure in any situation?

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Will students at the schools cancelling things get a refund?  

Will parents of HS kids looking at these schools direct them to schools that have been able to keep the violence down?

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22 minutes ago, Da Fino said:

My one Duke buddy sent me this. Unreal that these protestors have managed to drive him against his natural state of hatred for all things UNC.

 

https://www.gofundme.com/f/pi-kappa-phi-men-defended-their-flag-throw-em-a-rager

Commie losers across the country have invaded college campuses to make dumb demands of weak University Administrators.

But amidst the chaos, the screaming, the anti-semitism, the hatred of faith and flag, stood a platoon of American heroes. Armored in Vineyard Vines and Patagonia, fueled by Zyn and White Claws, these triumphant Brohemians protected Old Glory from the unwashed Marxist horde -- laughing at their shrieks and wails and shielding the Stars & Stripes from Soviet missiles.

These boys... no, men, of the UNC Chapel Hill Pi Kappa Phi, gave the best to America and now they deserve the best.

Help us raise funds to throw this frat the party they deserve, a party worth of the boat-shoed Broleteriat who did their country proud.

 

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Posted
4 hours ago, HendersonHorns said:

I’ve thought and repeated this line often.  Again I posted this yesterday. 
 

but, I have figured out, and I do owe this website a lot of credit, for teaching me to be more accepting of people, regardless of severity of political leanings. To a point….

 

 I’ve had interactions this week or “reactions” from people who have never done anything but “fuck you” me. 
 

find neutral ground before you shit completely on the beliefs they’ve had just as long and just as passionate as you are. Then work on differences in a healthy way. 
 

maybe it’s a pipe dream?  But I think it is what we have to do with where we are now in this political hate each side has for each other. Because it goes from political hate to hatred of the person too damn quickly anymore. 
 

 

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