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31 minutes ago, BevoAbyss said:

My dad (UT alum, RIP) traveled for business a fair amount during DKR's 1960s heyday ....  said that the overwhelming number of college grad business people he met cheered the fact that Texas beat ND for the title in 1970. ND hate is deep and widespread.

Said fans/grads loved talking about Royal, Bevo, the wishbone, '69 Texas-Arky game with Nixon in stadium, UT stuffing Joe Namath at the 1-yard line in final minutes to beat Bama in 1965 Orange Bowl.

-- Don't forget, that Texas-Bama Orange Bowl was the first televised bowl game at night and had a MASSIVE national audience!  Far larger than anything today, by an order of magnitude. 

I'll say it again: Texas kicking ass is great for college football.

Most fans love it far more than they hate it.  

Respect for this but as a mid 40's fat guy I'm ready for a new set of memories about classic games and Texas national championships that we can talk about when we're old.

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11 hours ago, Horn of Gabriel said:

1) Beat aggy

2) Avenge UGA

3) Win the whole damn thing

Yah, and I for one despite my disdain for them, actually want Miami, ND, SMU, and CU in. Mostly because I think Texas matches up really well against all of them. 

Granted we couldn't play them all. 

But.. I would love it if we could. 

Also, win and in. That's the "key take away". I'm perfectly happy to get a bye week and watch all the teeth nashing about who does and doesn't make it. It will be glorious.

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Posted
35 minutes ago, BevoAbyss said:

My dad (UT alum, RIP) traveled for business a fair amount during DKR's 1960s heyday ....  said that the overwhelming number of college grad business people he met cheered the fact that Texas beat ND for the title in 1970. ND hate is deep and widespread.

Said fans/grads loved talking about Royal, Bevo, the wishbone, '69 Texas-Arky game with Nixon in stadium, UT stuffing Joe Namath at the 1-yard line in final minutes to beat Bama in 1965 Orange Bowl.

-- Don't forget, that Texas-Bama Orange Bowl was the first televised bowl game at night and had a MASSIVE national audience!  Far larger than anything today, by an order of magnitude. 

I'll say it again: Texas kicking ass is great for college football.

Most fans love it far more than they hate it.  

I've had family in town this weekend including a female cousin's fiance and another female cousin's boyfriend - one from DC one from NY. Of the 13 of us that went to the Texas game yesterday my dad is the only one with an undergrad degree. One uncle went to UT law and there are a couple other UT grad school degrees in the mix. Everyone was wearing burnt orange and cheering for Texas. 

It's such a huge brand that serves to represent the state itself when it comes to football. Texas may be both the most loved and most disliked team. But you're probably right that for more casual fans that didn't go to a school with a program worth a shit it's more fun when Texas is good.

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3 minutes ago, satyanash said:

AP Poll: https://apnews.com/hub/ap-top-25-college-football-poll?week=14

They've set up Alabama to jump back into the Top 12, ahead of the loser of Miami-SMU. It's so blatant.

I'm old enough to remember that if we lost to Kentucky or even aggy we would drop all the way out of the playoffs.  Bama gets fucking DRUBBED by a shitty OU team we beat by 30 and can still get in.  too funny.

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3 minutes ago, ztejas said:

"They" aren't the ones making the call.

 

First AP top 10 for SMU in 40 seasons. 

amazing what happens when you can meet your payroll

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13 minutes ago, nbmishoid said:

Miami fell 8 when they lost.  Bama treatment coming 

Miami might be the biggest fraud in the country. Their schedule is an absolute joke. They might not play a top-25 team until their conference championship game.

I hope to god SMU beats them and Miami will have no justification at all for making the playoffs with 2 losses and that schedule. 

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5 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

I'm old enough to remember that if we lost to Kentucky or even aggy we would drop all the way out of the playoffs.  Bama gets fucking DRUBBED by a shitty OU team we beat by 30 and can still get in.  too funny.

Alabama isn't getting in.

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13 minutes ago, satyanash said:

AP Poll: https://apnews.com/hub/ap-top-25-college-football-poll?week=14

They've set up Alabama to jump back into the Top 12, ahead of the loser of Miami-SMU. It's so blatant.

A 3 loss Alabama should definitely get in over a 2 loss Miami. 

The ACC is fucking garbage. Miami's best win is fucking Duke? Miami is a complete fraud that has played nobody. 

Posted
Just now, closetojumping said:

Florida getting votes, LSU getting votes, Missouri being ranked, Alabama and Ole Miss in the top 15, this fucking conference is just living off of brand goodwill. None of those are good teams. Missouri is a bad team. Florida and LSU are bad teams. It’s pathetic. 

You aren't wrong but the problem is when you get past the top 10 teams nobody is good.

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Posted (edited)
3 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

Florida getting votes, LSU getting votes, Missouri being ranked, Alabama and Ole Miss in the top 15, this fucking conference is just living off of brand goodwill. None of those are good teams. Missouri is a bad team. Florida and LSU are bad teams. It’s pathetic. 

Now that Texas is in the SEC, I am 100% onboard with SEC bias 

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Posted
1 hour ago, Js1 said:

ND effectively gets a bye not playing a CCG game. Extra week of the rest

Of course, there’s the questions of too much rest versus coming out rusty after a bye 

I've never bought into the rust theory.

My take is that the risk of a major injury or even a somewhat minor one (ankle injury anyone) plus just additional wear and tear greatly outweighs any perceived rust issues. Teams typically perform better post a bye week. 

If anyone knows of any good quantitative metrics that take out subjectivity and I'd truly love to see it. 

I know it's a conjecture item people love to fight over, my question is, is there data supporting either side. Real data, not singular examples.

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Posted (edited)
16 hours ago, runthebone said:

All I know is that people in the media keep saying Texas looks shitty, but it's other teams that keep losing.

Yeah but they didn’t play as bad as Texas did…who cares if they won! 

14 hours ago, Js1 said:

Cannot wait for all the bitching on Tuesday night again when Texas still doesn’t have a loss to an SEC cellar dweller like Bama, Georgia, Ole Miss, Aggy and Tenn do

And they’ll piss all over Texas for not losing to the teams all those team did 

13 hours ago, Wulaw Horn said:

Stop. That was dumb and you should feel bad for posting that. There’s no world where this happens. 

13 hours ago, The_Great_Hornsby said:

If rankings hold in future results: 

1. Oregon

2. Texas

3. Miami

4. Big 12 team/Boise State

5. Notre Dame

6. Ohio State

7. Pedo State

8. Georgia

9. Indiana (placed above Tenn to avoid a conference rematch)

10. Tenn

11. ????? (Winner of SCAR/Clemson or 3 loss Bama?)

12. Big 12 team/Boise St

I truly believe it’s probably an ACC team there.  If a Miami loses a last second game to SMU or Clemson dominates SCAR

13 hours ago, WBT said:

If Miami and SMU both get to 11-1, they're both getting in.  10-2 Clemson also would be ahead of all the 3 loss SEC teams.

Agreed 

12 hours ago, dcar00 said:

Can Miami and SMU both end up 11-1?

Yes. 

12 hours ago, The_Great_Hornsby said:

No

Yes both play next week.  I doubt SMU gets into the playoffs if they lose the title game. But Miami can imo. 

12 hours ago, Horn of Gabriel said:

1) Beat aggy

2) Avenge UGA

3) Win the whole damn thing

damn right walter white GIF by Breaking Bad

3 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

So if we are to entertain the idea that sec conference runner up shouldn’t be punished, and aggy lands around 20 in that poll this week- then they’d need to jump up around 10 spots by beating us to be in a position to say they shouldn’t be punished for losing to Georgia.  Tough to do this late in the year. 

Aggy will not get in with 4 losses.  SEC titles game or not. Georgia will with 3 losses. 

3 hours ago, satyanash said:

And when blOU curbstomps Alabama after we absolutely obliterated them? Doesn't matter, CFP will shoehorn Bama into the playoffs anyway.

Always seeing OU clowns saying Texas didn’t play THIS OU team. 

2 hours ago, dcar00 said:

This 5 seed thing is really BS.  you get to play the 2 worst teams in the the first and second round and what might be effectively the #12 and #11(or worse) ranked team.

they need to just rank the teams 1-12.  In the NCAA tourney a conf champ just gets ranked the same as a non conf champ. 

Been preaching this.  Give the 5 hugest ranked champs an auto bid. But then rank them.  
 

No reason the 8th ranked team and 11th ranked teams should be 3/4

1 hour ago, MonkeyDoughnut said:

A&M playing for a spot in championship game while coaches have them as 7th best team in conference....     Well ONE guy would. 

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Posted
5 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

Florida getting votes, LSU getting votes, Missouri being ranked, Alabama and Ole Miss in the top 15, this fucking conference is just living off of brand goodwill. None of those are good teams. Missouri is a bad team. Florida and LSU are bad teams. It’s pathetic. 

I agree with your larger point. Missouri is a paper tiger for sure. However, against Miami or CU I wouldn't bet it either way. I'd say the same for LSU, Ole Miss and Bama. I could see them beating BYU, Miami, ND, CU or SMU. Of course, I fully admit I could see it going the other way so as not to sound like an SEC homer. 

I think there is a lot more parity broadly speaking but who is great in the Big 12, ACC or B1G. As a Texas fan which conference do you think would have been tougher to get where we are today?

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8 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

Florida getting votes, LSU getting votes, Missouri being ranked, Alabama and Ole Miss in the top 15, this fucking conference is just living off of brand goodwill. None of those are good teams. Missouri is a bad team. Florida and LSU are bad teams. It’s pathetic. 

Looking across college this year, I think there is a new definition of what a good team looks like. Great teams, no. Good teams, absolutely.

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Just now, MonkeyDoughnut said:

Looking across college this year, I think there is a new definition of what a good team looks like. Great teams, no. Good teams, absolutely.

We get too caught up in the top 25. There is not the massive chasm between number 17 and 35 that we pretend there is. 

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2 minutes ago, MonkeyDoughnut said:

Looking across college this year, I think there is a new definition of what a good team looks like. Great teams, no. Good teams, absolutely.

welcome to the downstream effect of unlimited free agency.  

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3 minutes ago, MonkeyDoughnut said:

Looking across college this year, I think there is a new definition of what a good team looks like. Great teams, no. Good teams, absolutely.

It's always been that way. 

It's why Herman had pretty good teams at 8-4 and why we were ranked in the top 25. Once you get past like the top 8 to 12 teams, it's a lot meh but good in the context of other teams being worse. 

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1 hour ago, dcar00 said:

Domers are basically the Cowboys of college football.  They had the mythology, the Catholic t-shirt fan and were on TV a lot.

and like the Cowboys, haven't won anything big in 30 years.  ND will get in, then promptly prove again why they shouldn't be allowed on the national stage.

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2 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

We get too caught up in the top 25. There is not the massive chasm between number 17 and 35 that we pretend there is. 

Yes, and this year from about 20-50 there is just a glorious mess of mediocre teams.

As an example I am willing to bet that as shitty as they are this year I would bet on Oklahoma straight up over at least 100 of the 134 FBS teams. Florida, too. The one team that ctj mentioned that I wouldn't is probably Missouri because I just don't trust them. But a lot of that is probably because I've watched them play multiple times and haven't watched some of the other teams in that mediocre club. If I'd watched some of them I'd probably think of them the same way I think of Missouri.

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Posted
10 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

Yes, and this year from about 20-50 there is just a glorious mess of mediocre teams.

As an example I am willing to bet that as shitty as they are this year I would bet on Oklahoma straight up over at least 100 of the 134 FBS teams. Florida, too. The one team that ctj mentioned that I wouldn't is probably Missouri because I just don't trust them. But a lot of that is probably because I've watched them play multiple times and haven't watched some of the other teams in that mediocre club. If I'd watched some of them I'd probably think of them the same way I think of Missouri.

That’s a lot of words when “ou sucks” would have sufficed 

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Posted
39 minutes ago, Rickylovesweed said:

A 3 loss Alabama should definitely get in over a 2 loss Miami. 

The ACC is fucking garbage. Miami's best win is fucking Duke? Miami is a complete fraud that has played nobody. 

Their best wins are Louisville and Florida. 

Which is better than anyone Indiana has beat 🤷

Few close calls and a L against very meh teams though.

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52 minutes ago, Rickylovesweed said:

I hope to god SMU beats them and Miami will have no justification at all for making the playoffs with 2 losses and that schedule. 

But they will make it.  And the justification will be only 2 losses.

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40 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

Now that Texas is in the SEC, I am 100% onboard with SEC bias 

Why?  We take care of our business and we'll always be fine.  Fuck the rest of them

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27 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

Yes, and this year from about 20-50 there is just a glorious mess of mediocre teams.

As an example I am willing to bet that as shitty as they are this year I would bet on Oklahoma straight up over at least 100 of the 134 FBS teams. Florida, too. The one team that ctj mentioned that I wouldn't is probably Missouri because I just don't trust them. But a lot of that is probably because I've watched them play multiple times and haven't watched some of the other teams in that mediocre club. If I'd watched some of them I'd probably think of them the same way I think of Missouri.

Oklahoma is 23rd in my power ratings with the number 11 defense, so this is accurate.

Florida is 15th.

Mizzou is 29th, so it starts to get dicey.

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2 minutes ago, WBT said:

But they will make it.  And the justification will be only 2 losses.

I don't think they will but it will be close. 

I also don't think them beating Syracuse on the road this weekend is anywhere close to a guarantee either. 

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38 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

I think there is a lot more parity broadly speaking but who is great in the Big 12, ACC or B1G. As a Texas fan which conference do you think would have been tougher to get where we are today?

Judging by past results, the Big 12

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Posted
54 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

Now that Texas is in the SEC, I am 100% onboard with SEC bias 

It will be interesting how hard the media fight against the SEC Bias now that we have exposed it.

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26 minutes ago, nbmishoid said:

Alabama’s loss yesterday was so embarrassingly horrible that it should exclude Bama period.  This isn’t about other teams.

Yeah idk about 2 loss Miami vs. 3 loss Bama. Last night was atrocious. I'm not saying Miami walks into Norman and wins but I'm guessing they find a way to put more than 3 pts on the board. 

Is the Ga Tech loss worse than Vandy? Probably. Miami hasn't played anyone as good as jawja or Tenn and Bama went 1-1 there. 

*Miami also strummed Gator who beat LSU and beat Ole Miss.

Neither team would really "deserve" to be in but you need 12.

Weird year. 

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12 minutes ago, ztejas said:

Yeah idk about 2 loss Miami vs. 3 loss Bama. Last night was atrocious. I'm not saying Miami walks into Norman and wins but I'm guessing they find a way to put more than 3 pts on the board. 

Is the Ga Tech loss worse than Vandy? Probably. Miami hasn't played anyone as good as jawja or Tenn and Bama went 1-1 there. 

*Miami also strummed Gator who kicked the shit out of LSU and beat Ole Miss.

Neither team would really "deserve" to be in but you need 12.

Weird year. 

It sure is, and you make good points.  But no way Bama should be rewarded for that garbage.   Many teams had play in situations.  Bama’s fail was the most epic.  Also, just fuck Bama

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1 hour ago, closetojumping said:

Florida getting votes, LSU getting votes, Missouri being ranked, Alabama and Ole Miss in the top 15, this fucking conference is just living off of brand goodwill. None of those are good teams. Missouri is a bad team. Florida and LSU are bad teams. It’s pathetic. 

I think you meant to say "it just means more."

1 hour ago, Codaxx said:

Now that Texas is in the SEC, I am 100% onboard with SEC bias 

Don't be that guy.

Fuck this stupid ass redneck conference. 

49 minutes ago, WBT said:

Why?  We take care of our business and we'll always be fine.  Fuck the rest of them

This guy gets it. 

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1 hour ago, Huckleberry said:

The one team that ctj mentioned that I wouldn't is probably Missouri because I just don't trust them. But a lot of that is probably because I've watched them play multiple times

ryan reynolds hd GIF

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Compiled thoughts:

1) There's an argument Oregon, Texas, and Ohio State have punched their tickets already.

2) The way it stands now, it's gonna be difficult to let a 3-loss team in.

3) The final two weeks of the B12 were/are drama-filled.  Arizona and Iowa State now control their own destiny after needing quite a bit of chaos this time last week.

Here's how my model projects the CFP and CCG odds:

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