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Posted
7 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

We could be. We need better playcalling, better QB play, and better WR play from people not named Golden.

But then again every team has some pretty big issues. 

I don't trust anyone against this D.

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19 minutes ago, ztejas said:

I think we're pretty clearly the best fucking team in America. 

If only the offense stops shooting themselves in the dick. 

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Posted (edited)

It’s beyond regarded to think you’d rather be the 5 than the 1 or 2 at this point. 

Look around at the parity in college football this year and imagine being so stupid that you’d rather play 2 elimination games instead of 1. 

With so many teams losing, no one has any fucking clue how they’ll value a championship game winner like asu or Boise vs the group of Tenn, Miami, IU, SMU (if Clemson wins the acc), Bama.

It’s perfectly reasonable to think Bama gets in as the 12 seed if asu gets a bump from 16 to 13 this week and then from 13 to somewhere above 12 after getting the championship game win. 

So not knowing how the committee may or may not punish championship losers, it is the height of stupidity to think it would be better to roll the dice on getting into the 5, 6, or 7 seed playing who the fuck knows, instead of preferring to earn the 1 or 2 seed in a bye. 

but hey. At least you’d be in the same page as Kiffin, so that’s something. 

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Final Regular Season In-State Rankings


1. Texas (11-1)
 - The Longhorns go wire-to-wire at #1.

2. SMU (11-1) - The Mustangs rumbled through their inaugural season in the ACC undefeated. They will earn a CFP birth with a win over Clemson in the ACC Championship game. If they fall to the Tigers, can the Ponies still sneak in?

3. Baylor (8-4) - The Bears roll into a possible Rate Bowl bid on a 6-game win streak, the longest of the Dave Aranda era.

4. TCU (8-4) - The Horned Frogs benefitted from a tissue-soft schedule with their 6 conference wins (and 1 loss) coming against the 7 teams in the cellar of the Big XII standings.

5. Texas Tech (8-4) - Seventh place in the Big XII runs through Lubbock.

6. Sam Houston (9-3) - Last season, their first in the FBS, the Bearkats finished just 3-9. This year, they improved by a remarkable 6 games. With their defeat of Liberty, they finish tied for 2nd in CUSA and will just miss the Conference USA championship game on a tie-break.

7. Abilene Christian (9-4) - After dropping an early OT heartbreaker to Texas Tech, ACU rolled through the UAC with a 7-1 conference record. They open the FCS playoffs with a shutout of Northern Arizona.

8. Texas A&M (8-4) - The aggies close the regular season on a three-game losing streak to teams not named New Mexico State and finish in the same position they held in our initial rankings.

9. Texas State (7-5) - If the Bobcats had been able to close out games against Sam Houston or Arizona State, this could have been a special season. They improve over last year's conference record to 5-3 in the Sun Belt. 

10. UTSA (6-6) - Under head coach Jeff Traylor, the Roadrunners have gone 12-2, 11-3, 9-5, and now 6-6 over the past 4 seasons.

11. North Texas (6-6) - With their win over Temple, the Mean Green are bowl-eligible for the third time in five years.

12. Houston (4-8) - After defeating Kansas State on November 3, the Cougars end the season on a three-game skid.

13. Rice (4-8) - The Owls’ winning percentage over the past 11 seasons: 33%. Their winning percentage this season: 33%. 

14. UTEP (3-9) - The Miners showed little life all year with three wins coming against fellow bottom-20 FBS teams FIU, Kennesaw, and New Mexico State.

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Posted (edited)

Some playoff thoughts after yesterday. 

We want Oregon to win vs Penn st as it guarantees us a 5 seed at worst. ND is not going to jump us for the 5 seed or else the big 10 and sec will explode. 

Teams playing in conference championships don't really get a bye. They have to play an extra game in order for the chance at a bye. I think you will start to see very liberal rotations and resting starters in the big 10 and sec championships during years where both teams playing are getting in regardless of outcome. Injuries later in the year are more common and it gives teams a chance to build depth for the playoff push. 

I think you will see a preference in years to come to be in a position like tenn and Ohio st are in this year.

The way they have the 12 team playoff set up is stupid but it may be the most fair way to do this without invalidating the lesser conferences. ¹

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Posted
1 minute ago, closetojumping said:

Maybe this post and others like it are correct, but I can’t be the only guy that reads them and thinks “fuck this shit, Texas needs to beat Georgia and win the conference title”, can I?

I want the trophy 

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3 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

Maybe this post and others like it are correct, but I can’t be the only guy that reads them and thinks “fuck this shit, Texas needs to beat Georgia and win the conference title”, can I?

It is very important that we win the game against UGA now. And the team is going to be motivated to get revenge. 

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Posted
32 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

Maybe this post and others like it are correct, but I can’t be the only guy that reads them and thinks “fuck this shit, Texas needs to beat Georgia and win the conference title”, can I?

Entertainment is the Committee's true goal. The most entertaining outcome for the playoffs will sell the most advertising. From an admittedly Texas-centric perspective, it looks like the greatest entertainment  value is for Texas to knock off Georgia in the SECSECSEC CCG to "even" the season, and then for the two to meet in the Grand Finale for the rubber match, preceded and accompanied by relentless advertising selling all sorts of electric vehicles, alcoholic beverages, insurance, and oddly-named drugs with side effects including hair loss, blindness, erectile dysfunction, cardiac issues, and sudden death. 

Texas wins the CCG.

 

 

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1 hour ago, closetojumping said:

Maybe this post and others like it are correct, but I can’t be the only guy that reads them and thinks “fuck this shit, Texas needs to beat Georgia and win the conference title”, can I?

The amount of value derived from Texas winning the SEC the first year is through the roof. I want this game, bad.

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Definitely want to win the SEC this week, not the least of reasons because I’m going to the game and don’t want a bunch of UGA fans barking in my face. Also want to repeat our trick from 1995-1996 of winning a conference on our way out and our way in. 
 

More long term, however, if we’re going to an NFL-style playoff system in CFB, then we should probably get away from these conference championship games altogether and just determine the regular season conference champion by records+tiebreakers like we used to do it prior to 1992. Nobody is upset that we don’t have an NFC East Championship Game in January every year. 

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2 hours ago, closetojumping said:

Maybe this post and others like it are correct, but I can’t be the only guy that reads them and thinks “fuck this shit, Texas needs to beat Georgia and win the conference title”, can I?

no you aren't.  You have to play to win because you can't be assured of the 5. Notre Dame is there.  Oregon could lose also.  so yes we need to fuckstomp UGA so we can rest players at the end of the game and get a bye.  Other than the QB you can't really  "protect" players. 

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Posted
12 hours ago, ztejas said:

I think we're pretty clearly the best fucking team in America. 

Our offense needs to get the memo that if they just chill and protect the football, we'll probably win the national championship.

 

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Coaches Poll

  1.     Oregon (53)
  2.     Texas
  3.     Penn State
  4.     Notre Dame
  5.     Georgia
  6.     Tennessee
  7.     SMU
  8.     Ohio State
  9.     Indiana
  10.     Boise State
  11.     Alabama
  12.     South Carolina
  13.     Arizona State
  14.     Miami FL
  15.     Ole Miss
  16.     Iowa State
  17.     Clemson
  18.     BYU
  19.     UNLV
  20.     Missouri
  21.     Illinois
  22.     Colorado
  23.     Army
  24.     Memphis
  25.     Syracuse
  • Schools Dropped Out: Tulane; Texas A&M;
  • Others Receiving Votes: Texas A&M; Duke; Tulane; Louisville; Kansas State; Louisiana; Michigan; Georgia Tech; Miami (OH); Iowa;

 

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Posted
14 hours ago, JGrayDBU said:

What are we playing for against GA?  Win and earn a bye?  Lose and no bye?  If we lose do we lose a shot at a home playoff game?  I assume we are in regardless of next outcome.  

Also what is the easiest path?  bye, win in semis and win finals?

Bye week

 knock them out of the playoff

 pride in being the sec champ

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Posted
14 hours ago, JGrayDBU said:

Also what is the easiest path?  bye, win in semis and win finals?

If we win the SECCG it would go by/quarters/semis/final.

With there being to clear ‘you have to miss this team’ opponent for us this season, seems to me playing 4 more games is better than playing 5…

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the whole thing is kind of fucked up.  you would be all in for a conf championship if you were going to get a bye and a home game but for all your work you get a bye and a then neutral site game against a tougher opponent than the 5 seed is going to get.

If the 5 seed had to play the "4" on the road it would be less of an advantage.

they need to get rid of the bowls and have neutral site for semi and final only.

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Posted
12 minutes ago, Zeus said:

Bye week

 knock them out of the playoff

 pride in being the sec champ

with Miami and Clemson losing there is no way UGA gets dropped with a loss.  

Posted
4 hours ago, UTGrad98 said:

Some playoff thoughts after yesterday. 

We want Oregon to win vs Penn st as it guarantees us a 5 seed at worst. ND is not going to jump us for the 5 seed or else the big 10 and sec will explode. 

Teams playing in conference championships don't really get a bye. They have to play an extra game in order for the chance at a bye. I think you will start to see very liberal rotations and resting starters in the big 10 and sec championships during years where both teams playing are getting in regardless of outcome. Injuries later in the year are more common and it gives teams a chance to build depth for the playoff push. 

I think you will see a preference in years to come to be in a position like tenn and Ohio st are in this year.

The way they have the 12 team playoff set up is stupid but it may be the most fair way to do this without invalidating the lesser conferences. ¹

There is a lot of moving parts. There is 0 guarantee that Texas will get a 5 seed with a loss. Texas needs to take care of business, get the Bye, and a chance at the 1 seed 

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Posted
13 hours ago, Huckleberry said:

We could be. We need better playcalling, better QB play, and better WR play from people not named Golden.

But then again every team has some pretty big issues. 

Agree. The OL and the defense set the floor for this team. To hit reach their ceiling the passing game needs to show up. 

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Posted
5 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

I'd switch Alabama and South Carolina.

Same but it wont happen

4 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

There is a lot of moving parts. There is 0 guarantee that Texas will get a 5 seed with a loss. Texas needs to take care of business, get the Bye, and a chance at the 1 seed 

Correct, we will be the 5 or 6 seed. And I could see Bama being at 11 or 12 depending on the outcome of next week's games. Would really prefer to avoid them in Round 1. 

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NCAA isn't the NFL and you can't get rid of all conference championship games.

The NFL is limited to 32 teams and two conferences.  

NCAA FBS consists of 134 teams and ten conferences.

 

NCAA needs conference championships for the lesser conferences that are unlikely to ever sniff the expanded playoffs.

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Posted
4 hours ago, Js1 said:

I want the trophy 

Did the university get a welcome letter for joining the SEC?  If so, frame it and put it in the trophy case between the SEC Championship trophy and the golden vagina.

Posted
3 minutes ago, ATXbronco said:

NCAA isn't the NFL and you can't get rid of all conference championship games.

The NFL is limited to 32 teams and two conferences.  

NCAA FBS consists of 134 teams and ten conferences.

 

NCAA needs conference championships for the lesser conferences that are unlikely to ever sniff the expanded playoffs.

Well until the SEC and B1G break away and do their own thing. 

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9 minutes ago, ATXbronco said:

NCAA isn't the NFL and you can't get rid of all conference championship games.

The NFL is limited to 32 teams and two conferences.  

NCAA FBS consists of 134 teams and ten conferences.

 

NCAA needs conference championships for the lesser conferences that are unlikely to ever sniff the expanded playoffs.

Notice how the big conferences dont play volleyball conf championship tourneys, it is because of the fact that they arent needed. Small conferences can still play theirs, but SEC and BIG 10 dont need to. 

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Just now, The_Great_Hornsby said:

Notice how the big conferences dont play volleyball conf championship tourneys, it is because of the fact that they arent needed. Small conferences can still play theirs, but SEC and BIG 10 dont need to. 

The SEC is bringing theirs back next year 

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Posted
27 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

I'd switch Alabama and South Carolina.

It will be interesting where the committee has them.  I expect same placement because they want Bama in.

Posted (edited)

AP Poll

  1.     Oregon (62)
  2.     Texas
  3.     Penn State
  4.     Notre Dame
  5.     Georgia
  6.     Tennessee
  7.     Ohio State
  8.     SMU
  9.     Indiana
  10.     Boise State
  11.     Alabama
  12.     Arizona State
  13.     South Carolina
  14.     Miami [FL]
  15.     Ole Miss
  16.     Iowa State
  17.     BYU
  18.     Clemson
  19.     UNLV
  20.     Colorado
  21.     Illinois
  22.     Missouri
  23.     Syracuse
  24.     Army
  25.     Memphis

Others receiving votes: Texas A&M 93, Louisville 45, Duke 30, Kansas St. 10, Tulane 9, LSU 6, Louisiana-Lafayette 5, Florida 4, Michigan 1, Baylor 1.

 

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Posted
Just now, ztejas said:

We'll see what the committee does but it's like that loss for tOSU didn't really matter. 

Neither did Alabama's losses. If Clemson beats SMU in the ACC title game, are they going to jump a three-loss Alabama ahead of 11-2 SMU and 10-2 Miami? It looks like they will.

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Horns got 59 of the 62 2nd place votes, one voter had Penn St. ahead, one has Georgia ahead (both with UT at 2) and Stephen Means of Cleveland.com has UT 4th with ND and Penn St. 2/3.

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So 4 of those top 12 don’t play again before the playoffs, 4 more won’t drop out with a loss in the ccg, smu Boise and asu would just be replaced by the team that beats them. Thats 11 spots filled.  Meaning, I think, that bama’s best and only chance at getting in is Texas beating Georgia.  If playoff ranking matches ap.  Tough to justify jumping Indiana based on how Indiana played this week, but with neither of them playing next week they’d almost have to do it now to have any cover if they care at all. 
 

Oregon

penn st

ohio state

texas

notre dame

twnnessee

acc winner 

big 12 winner 

mwc winner

That’s 9. Must have miscounted above. 
Then Georgia, Indiana, bama? 

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Posted
8 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Tough to justify jumping Indiana based on how Indiana played this week

I'm not even sure Purdue should be a data point for them. Purdue would struggle to win 7 games against a good FCS slate. 

I also think SCAR should be in over Bama but it won't happen. 

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Posted
1 minute ago, ztejas said:

I'm not even sure Purdue should be a data point for them. Purdue would struggle to win 7 games against a good FCS slate. 

Understood but they can only play who is on the schedule and they beat them up like they were supposed to. 

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11 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

So 4 of those top 12 don’t play again before the playoffs, 4 more won’t drop out with a loss in the ccg, smu Boise and asu would just be replaced by the team that beats them. Thats 11 spots filled.  Meaning, I think, that bama’s best and only chance at getting in is Texas beating Georgia.  If playoff ranking matches ap.  Tough to justify jumping Indiana based on how Indiana played this week, but with neither of them playing next week they’d almost have to do it now to have any cover if they care at all. 
 

Oregon

penn st

ohio state

texas

notre dame

twnnessee

acc winner 

big 12 winner 

mwc winner

That’s 9. Must have miscounted above. 
Then Georgia, Indiana, bama? 

I think the only way Bama *could* miss is with a Clemson win over SMU and SMU still making the playoffs as a 2 loss ACC team. Otherwise, they are in. 

Posted
8 minutes ago, The_Great_Hornsby said:

I think the only way Bama *could* miss is with a Clemson win over SMU and SMU still making the playoffs as a 2 loss ACC team. Otherwise, they are in. 

That’s not going to happen nor should it. 
I too would go with South Carolina over Bama but there are certainly arguments including head to head for Bama.  But, that was a 2 point win for Bama at Bama. That would have SC winning at a neutral field if you believe the 3 point home field advantage. 

Posted
3 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

That’s not going to happen nor should it. 
I too would go with South Carolina over Bama but there are certainly arguments including head to head for Bama.  But, that was a 2 point win for Bama at Bama. That would have SC winning at a neutral field if you believe the 3 point home field advantage. 

Bama is a helmet school with a head to head win over a non-helmet school. Close to a 0% chance they are passing them over for South Carolina. 

 

I do agree though, I personally feel South Carolina deserves the spot. Also, if the championship games are viewed as essentially "extra" games, I could see an argument for a 2 loss SMU getting in over Bama. But I doubt it happens for the same reasons that South Carolina wont make it in over Bama.  

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