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2 minutes ago, TonyTexas said:

You mean the Reggie Miller choke sign. 
 

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I mean logo-ize it. There was some discussion about the LeBron block in game 7 becoming a new logo (below), because it was such an iconic moment. This Hali choke sign was pretty iconic too, not nearly as important of a game, but would be a fun meme to have. 

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1 hour ago, Aqua Buddha said:

Minny is going to swept or gentlemen swept.  OKC is elite on defense and they have two guys in their starting five that are black holes on offense.

Minny just needs to have Ant go on a rampage tonight and impregnate all the OKC guy's girlfriend and wives that he can. That will cause plenty of distraction on the team and ruin their chemistry to the point that Minny has a decided advantage.  It's what alphas do, and it could be legendary if Ant knocked up some sluts while in the boringest city in the NBA. What else is he gonna do, check out the Banjo Museum?

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Posted

Ewing would destroy bitch ass Embiid, and the 20th Century team has the best player (Elgin) and probably another guy I’d take before anyone on the 21st Century team (Barkley). 

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I could make a much better 21st century team. For starters - prime Jimmy Butler over VC is a fucking no-brainer. 

Or Tracy McGrady. 

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Posted
8 minutes ago, ztejas said:

I could make a much better 21st century team. For starters - prime Jimmy Butler over VC is a fucking no-brainer. 

Or Tracy McGrady. 

I’m taking James Harden at one of the guard slots. 

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Posted
8 minutes ago, Reynolds Woodcock said:

LFG Knicks!

 

 

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Wrong thread.

Granted I don't understand why we keep both threads active once the playoffs start. I almost said something about this the other night. We don't need 2 general discussion NBA threads there are like 18 NBA fans here. 

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On 5/27/2025 at 4:52 PM, ztejas said:

prime Jimmy Butler over VC is a fucking no-brainer. 

Butler played 80 games 1x; Carter played 80+ games 5x. 
Butler's 80 games were in his 2nd year when he contributed next to nothing.
Carter has more 70+ game seasons than Butler has 50+ game seasons.

Butler's high ppg is 23.9; Carter avgd higher than that 6x.

In Butler's 5 best scoring seasons, his avg for points + rebounds + assists + steals + blocks is 36.34; Carter's is 37.38.

Butler's high PIE was 18.4; Carter's high was 19.

 

 

Posted
44 minutes ago, Mittens said:

Butler played 80 games 1x; Carter played 80+ games 5x. 
Butler's 80 games were in his 2nd year when he contributed next to nothing.
Carter has more 70+ game seasons than Butler has 50+ game seasons.

Butler's high ppg is 23.9; Carter avgd higher than that 6x.

In Butler's 5 best scoring seasons, his avg for points + rebounds + assists + steals + blocks is 36.34; Carter's is 37.38.

Butler's high PIE was 18.4; Carter's high was 19.

 

 

Is this a bit? I thought we were doing the best 5 guys at their peaks in a game against each other or series. 

Butler was the best player on 2 Finals teams. He has 5 All-NBA selections to VC's 2. He has 5 all-defense teams to VC's 0. 

Congrats to Vince for playing more games and putting up more counting stats in the regular season. In the playoffs - and at each guy's peak - I'm not sure how it's even a debate. Especially within the context of being surrounded by other superstars in this hypothetical.

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4 minutes ago, ztejas said:

Is this a bit? I thought we were doing the best 5 guys at their peaks in a game against each other or series. 

Correct.  And if you're trying to make a case for Butler's peak over Carter's peak, then that's a losing argument. 

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25 minutes ago, Mittens said:

Correct.  And if you're trying to make a case for Butler's peak over Carter's peak, then that's a losing argument. 

Based on what? 

I get you're a Celtics fan but give me a break, dude. Butler was a fucking animal in '23. Carter never touched that level of winning-basketball. 

Butler was maybe better in '22 despite losing to Boston. He led the playoffs in Win Shares, WS/48, OBPM, BPM and VORP. And two of those are cumulative stats and he didn't even play in the damn Finals. 

Carter had one season KIND of like that and led the playoffs in BPM but they lost in 5 games to the Heat in 2006 in the conference semis.

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Posted (edited)
10 minutes ago, Mittens said:

Based on the numbers you've already seen.  wtf does being a Celtics fan have to do w/ anything?  Did Carter have a year in Boston I'm not aware of?

This is obviously a pointless debate and I'm not convincing you. 

I'd take Jimmy 10 times out of 10 - and in pretty much any context. VC wasn't some bum but Butler's playoff resume speaks for itself. 

I don't think your take here is crazy I just disagree. 

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So if you’re building a team and you have to pick one of butler or Carter, you’re going Butler?   

I'm taking Butler but it's really close. VC is better in the regular season. Jimmy is better in the playoffs.
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Posted
1 hour ago, Im_smarter_then_you said:

Fuck that.  AI was savage.  I’ll take him over Harden. Stats be damned.  

Playoff stats 

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playoffs often come down to heart. Iverson had the heart of a lion. Harden has the heart of a guy dead set on getting to the strip club before the 10 VIP dances for the price of 9 promotion ends at midnight. 

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Posted
33 minutes ago, Blotto said:

Playoff stats 

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playoffs often come down to heart. Iverson had the heart of a lion. Harden has the heart of a guy dead set on getting to the strip club before the 10 VIP dances for the price of 9 promotion ends at midnight. 

Does that say 45 minutes played for AI?

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