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13 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

Yeah, I would imagine that convincing yourself that there was absolutely nothing that you, or the people that you entrusted, could have done to save your child, and it was just their "time" is a pretty natural human reflex/coping mechanism.

Perhaps she feels guilt at having sent her to a camp and feels ultimately responsible for her daughter's death, and this is her way of coping with it. Again, as a parent, I can't imagine the grief I would feel if one of my daughters died in such a horrific way. She is now living in a world that no longer makes any sense. We need to cut her some slack. 

I once created a video for Texas Parks & Wildlife Department to teach teens about lake drownings and how to avoid them. We found and interviewed parents who has lost teens and put them on. camera. It was one of the hardest things I've ever done and I'm still friends with two of the families. The grief they feel is so profound even today. One of the moms told me that as their children's friends experience their new milestones, like graduation, college marriage, etc, they feel the loss all over again.    

Love your kids. They can be taken away in an instant.

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1 hour ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

guess I'm dense - what are you trying to tell me?

dead kids don’t matter one miniscule fuck to the base. 

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1 hour ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

guess I'm dense - what are you trying to tell me?

You’re not sure what the Uvalde County election results from November 2022  say about the premise that “dead kids tend to rile people up?”

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bumping this

  

On 7/6/2025 at 12:09 PM, chainsaw said:

Just so everyone's expectations are clear, this is the way it'll always play out

  • Day of:
    • wall to wall media coverage
    • non-stop social media anecdotes and commentary from public figures
    • all politicians extending thoughts, prayers, and offers of assistance
  • Day after
    • politicians on the scene, photo ops, press conferences making all kinds of promises
    • wall to wall media coverage
    • hundreds of different charities and GoFundMes up and running, donations pouring in
  • Week after
    • media coverage mixed with newer unrelated stories, in-depth stories from first responders and victims
    • social media attention drops off
    • charities still seeing support
    • politicians continue with thoughts and prayers, but all commitments if any are made are vague and noncommittal
  • Month after
    • no more mainstream media, any media attention will come from partisan sources making a story of the government failing to honor its promises to help the affected people and communities
    • social media will consist of people sharing the partisan stories
    • donations will have slowed to a trickle
    • politicians will stop talking about it, and when asked about it will have a canned response that in no way, shape, or form, helps anyone
  • Thereafter
    • no media at all
    • basically no charity at all
    • politicians will neither lift a finger nor spend a dime on rebuilding or helping any of the victims
    • victims will try to speak out about how the safety net wasn't there when they needed it, and their stories will be ignored

We are here:

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  • Month after
    • no more mainstream media, any media attention will come from partisan sources making a story of the government failing to honor its promises to help the affected people and communities
    • social media will consist of people sharing the partisan stories
    • donations will have slowed to a trickle
    • politicians will stop talking about it, and when asked about it will have a canned response that in no way, shape, or form, helps anyone

https://www.cnn.com/2025/08/04/us/texas-flood-survivors

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‘We need financial help and are not getting it’

For many survivors who lost their homes, it remains unclear how much support they’ll receive from the Federal Emergency Management Agency and other government programs. Even if help comes, it won’t be quick.

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“The state and county are helping us none,” Bolton told CNN. “I know people that lost their homes and sleeping in their cars still because they are not getting any of the funding. We don’t need toilet paper, bottled water, and few necessities and gift cards. We need financial help and are not getting it.”

Absolutely nothing on FoxNews website

https://www.foxnews.com/

Absolutely nothing on MSNBC website either

https://www.msnbc.com/

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Non-functioning FEMA and both Federal and State governments out front shoulda told ya.

The social/government compact in America and Texas in particular exists for one reason only: to ensure maximum profit/minimum costs/taxes to a very small segment of us....and fuck everyone and everything else.  

We are not seeing the system failing.  We are seeing it working flawlessly, exactly as designed.  From the moment the first raindrop fell the night of July 3-4 to present, and to infinity and beyond.  Ho-hum, same old same old.

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4 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

bumping this

  

We are here:

https://www.cnn.com/2025/08/04/us/texas-flood-survivors

Absolutely nothing on FoxNews website

https://www.foxnews.com/

Absolutely nothing on MSNBC website either

https://www.msnbc.com/

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We could give you some aid, but then the Communists would win.  You don't want the Communists to win, do ya, Bud?  Didn't think so.  So get a good grip on them bootstraps and start tugging. 

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31 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Non-functioning FEMA and both Federal and State governments out front shoulda told ya.

The social/government compact in America and Texas in particular exists for one reason only: to ensure maximum profit/minimum costs/taxes to a very small segment of us....and fuck everyone and everything else.  

We are not seeing the system failing.  We are seeing it working flawlessly, exactly as designed.  From the moment the first raindrop fell the night of July 3-4 to present, and to infinity and beyond.  Ho-hum, same old same old.

Don't forget using FEMA funds for immigrant camps. I still do not understand how that shit is allowed. FEMA has a very strict mandate and direct, approved, congressional funding. 

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I'd still like to see an explanation for why the "missing" number dropped over 90% but the death toll didn't rise.

Oh well, nevertheless.

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6 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

I still do not understand how that shit is allowed.

Perhaps you did not get the memo on "The Rule of Law is dead."  Coulda sworn I saw your name on the routing slip.

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2 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Perhaps you did not get the memo on "The Rule of Law is dead."  Coulda sworn I saw your name on the routing slip.

Got stuck in Spam folder. 

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16 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I'd still like to see an explanation for why the "missing" number dropped over 90% but the death toll didn't rise.

Oh well, nevertheless.

From what I gathered, there was an over-reporting of missing intially.  Anybody who couldn't get into contact with loved ones right away reported them as missing.  They later went on to clear up the missing vs dead boards and cleared a lot of the missing.  

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The thing about helping Kerrville is that our state leaders are preoccupied with redrawing congressional districts.

If people want actual help and accountability in the wake of a tragedy, make better decisions at the ballot box.

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Unbelievably, the scum-sucking leeches that own Camp Mystic are reopening it next summer for the '100 year anniversary,' and some of the parents whose children died are not happy:

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/23/us/camp-mystic-texas.html 

 

Camp Mystic Will Reopen Over Objections From Parents of the Dead

Twenty-seven children and counselors died in the Texas Hill Country camp, and many of their families expressed shock that the retreat on the Guadalupe River would be open for its 100th anniversary.

 

Camp Mystic, the girls’ summer camp in Texas where 27 young campers and counselors died in flooding in July, plans to reopen next summer, a decision that has shocked and divided the once tight-knit community of Mystic alumni and parents.

The camp’s owners announced their intentions in two emails sent hours apart on Monday, one to the families of the girls who died, and one to a much broader group of past campers and their families, many of whom remain fiercely loyal to the camp’s leadership.

“We are not only rebuilding cabins and trails, but also a place where laughter, friendship and spiritual growth will continue to flourish,” the email to past campers read. “We look forward to welcoming you back inside the green gates.”

Camp owners opened a second site in 2020, near the original location along the Guadalupe River, which is the campus that will reopen next year.

 

The question of whether the camp should reopen has roiled the Mystic community for weeks. One child, Cile Steward, 8, remains missing. The Texas Legislature has passed new laws to address camp safety, with an emotional push from the families of the children who died in the July 4 floods that devastated the Hill Country of Central Texas. But questions remain about what happened in the early morning hours of the Independence Day catastrophe, and many families have deeply opposed a reopening.

The messages sent on Monday, which included plans to erect a memorial on Mystic grounds in honor of the girls who died there, prompted immediate waves of shock and anger among the families, several parents said on Tuesday. They also said that they had received almost no other communication from the camp in recent months.

“The families of deceased Camp Mystic campers and counselors were not consulted about and did not approve this memorial,” Blake Bonner, the father of Lila Bonner, 9, who died in the flood, said in a statement on behalf of the families.

Cici Steward, the mother of Cile, responded Tuesday with an anguished, blistering statement that declared, “The truth is, Camp Mystic failed our daughters.”

“Recovery teams are still out there, scouring the river, risking and sacrificing so much to find her so we can finally lay her to rest. For their efforts, we are eternally grateful,” she wrote. “Camp Mystic, however, has only added to our grief.”

 

“For my family, these months have felt like an eternity. For the camp, it seems like nothing more than a brief pause before business as usual,” the statement said. “Camp Mystic is pressing ahead with reopening, even if it means inviting girls to swim in the same river that may potentially still hold my daughter’s body.”

Both camp emails announcing the decision were signed by seven members of the Eastland family, which has owned Camp Mystic since the 1930s. Dick Eastland, 70, the camp’s executive director, died in the flood, the 28th fatality at Mystic that morning. His wife, Tweety, was at the top of the email’s signatories.

The Eastland family said in a statement on Tuesday that they had “received no negative comments from any of the bereaved families regarding plans to build a memorial.”

Mr. Bonner said that he and other parents believe that the camp’s resources should instead be devoted to recovering Cile’s body. The ongoing search for Cile has become a rallying point for the other families, who call themselves “Heaven’s 27.”

Camp Mystic draws many of its campers from a handful of wealthy neighborhoods in Houston, Austin and Dallas, and its alumni form a network whose personal and professional ties last decades after their summers together. Many families, including several whose daughters died at the camp this summer, have sent their daughters there for generations.

In August, many of the “Heaven’s 27” parents came together to devise and press for a package of state camp safety reforms. The legislation requires youth camps in Texas to build new cabins and move existing ones away from dangerous floodplains, among other provisions.

“Camp safety is now law in the great state of Texas,” Gov. Greg Abbott of Texas said at the signing ceremony in Austin, which was attended by dozens of parents.

The Eastland family said publicly that they supported the legislation, and sent letters to legislators affirming their backing, “especially the creation of detection and warning systems that would have saved lives on July 4.” Camp Mystic is a member of the Camping Association for Mutual Progress, a trade association that includes several camps that opposed the changes on the grounds that moving and rebuilding cabins would be prohibitively expensive.

In a letter to Mr. Abbott before he signed the safety legislation into law, 11 counselors who worked at Camp Mystic this summer called the bills’ passage “rushed” and asked that it be “more carefully evaluated and amended before it is fully passed into law.”

“There will be no future for Mystic and its surrounding camps,” the counselors wrote. “We want what is right for these girls that we miss so dearly while preserving the camp that we have always envisioned our babies attending, like our moms before us.”

The Eastland family said in their statement on Tuesday they were not aware of the counselors’ letter before it was sent.

In their email to past campers on Monday, the Eastlands said they were working to implement new safety protocols and make other changes required by the new legislation. They referred to the deadly flooding this summer as a “catastrophic 1,000-year weather event.”

In 2011, the Federal Emergency Management Agency placed much of Camp Mystic within a 100-year flood zone, an area considered to be at high risk of flooding. The Eastlands successfully challenged those designations, which would have limited renovation projects and required flood insurance.

The camp housed its youngest campers in cabins a short walk from the river, which overflowed and merged with a nearby creek overnight on July 4. Though other camps along the Guadalupe River had to evacuate and rescue campers, Camp Mystic was the only sleepaway camp where campers died. The flood killed more than 130 people along the river.

Next year will mark Camp Mystic’s 100th anniversary, a history that includes several other significant flash floods. But before this summer, none had proved deadly on the grounds of Mystic.

Several parents of girls who died said they still had significant questions about what happened overnight at the camp, and why evacuation plans were either nonexistent or failed spectacularly that night.

“We have not been perfect at communicating,” the Eastlands acknowledged in their email to the families of the girls who died. “The distance that has grown between some of us saddens us all.”

The families of the girls who died were particularly taken aback by the news of the memorial dedicated to their daughters, which the camp’s email said would “strive to capture the beauty, kindness and grace they all shared, while focusing on the joy they carried and will always inspire in us all.”

The camp said it would announce its 2026 dates in early October. In the past, Mystic has had a yearslong waiting list to attend, with some families signing their daughters up at birth. Beyond the campus now set to reopen, the Eastlands said they would “continue to evaluate” plans to rebuild on the original site, where the 27 girls died.

 
 
 
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11 minutes ago, TreatyOak said:

Unbelievably, the scum-sucking leeches that own Camp Mystic are reopening it next summer for the '100 year anniversary,' and some of the parents whose children died are not happy:

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/23/us/camp-mystic-texas.html 

 

Camp Mystic Will Reopen Over Objections From Parents of the Dead

Twenty-seven children and counselors died in the Texas Hill Country camp, and many of their families expressed shock that the retreat on the Guadalupe River would be open for its 100th anniversary.

 

Camp Mystic, the girls’ summer camp in Texas where 27 young campers and counselors died in flooding in July, plans to reopen next summer, a decision that has shocked and divided the once tight-knit community of Mystic alumni and parents.

The camp’s owners announced their intentions in two emails sent hours apart on Monday, one to the families of the girls who died, and one to a much broader group of past campers and their families, many of whom remain fiercely loyal to the camp’s leadership.

“We are not only rebuilding cabins and trails, but also a place where laughter, friendship and spiritual growth will continue to flourish,” the email to past campers read. “We look forward to welcoming you back inside the green gates.”

Camp owners opened a second site in 2020, near the original location along the Guadalupe River, which is the campus that will reopen next year.

 

The question of whether the camp should reopen has roiled the Mystic community for weeks. One child, Cile Steward, 8, remains missing. The Texas Legislature has passed new laws to address camp safety, with an emotional push from the families of the children who died in the July 4 floods that devastated the Hill Country of Central Texas. But questions remain about what happened in the early morning hours of the Independence Day catastrophe, and many families have deeply opposed a reopening.

The messages sent on Monday, which included plans to erect a memorial on Mystic grounds in honor of the girls who died there, prompted immediate waves of shock and anger among the families, several parents said on Tuesday. They also said that they had received almost no other communication from the camp in recent months.

“The families of deceased Camp Mystic campers and counselors were not consulted about and did not approve this memorial,” Blake Bonner, the father of Lila Bonner, 9, who died in the flood, said in a statement on behalf of the families.

Cici Steward, the mother of Cile, responded Tuesday with an anguished, blistering statement that declared, “The truth is, Camp Mystic failed our daughters.”

“Recovery teams are still out there, scouring the river, risking and sacrificing so much to find her so we can finally lay her to rest. For their efforts, we are eternally grateful,” she wrote. “Camp Mystic, however, has only added to our grief.”

 

“For my family, these months have felt like an eternity. For the camp, it seems like nothing more than a brief pause before business as usual,” the statement said. “Camp Mystic is pressing ahead with reopening, even if it means inviting girls to swim in the same river that may potentially still hold my daughter’s body.”

Both camp emails announcing the decision were signed by seven members of the Eastland family, which has owned Camp Mystic since the 1930s. Dick Eastland, 70, the camp’s executive director, died in the flood, the 28th fatality at Mystic that morning. His wife, Tweety, was at the top of the email’s signatories.

The Eastland family said in a statement on Tuesday that they had “received no negative comments from any of the bereaved families regarding plans to build a memorial.”

Mr. Bonner said that he and other parents believe that the camp’s resources should instead be devoted to recovering Cile’s body. The ongoing search for Cile has become a rallying point for the other families, who call themselves “Heaven’s 27.”

Camp Mystic draws many of its campers from a handful of wealthy neighborhoods in Houston, Austin and Dallas, and its alumni form a network whose personal and professional ties last decades after their summers together. Many families, including several whose daughters died at the camp this summer, have sent their daughters there for generations.

In August, many of the “Heaven’s 27” parents came together to devise and press for a package of state camp safety reforms. The legislation requires youth camps in Texas to build new cabins and move existing ones away from dangerous floodplains, among other provisions.

“Camp safety is now law in the great state of Texas,” Gov. Greg Abbott of Texas said at the signing ceremony in Austin, which was attended by dozens of parents.

The Eastland family said publicly that they supported the legislation, and sent letters to legislators affirming their backing, “especially the creation of detection and warning systems that would have saved lives on July 4.” Camp Mystic is a member of the Camping Association for Mutual Progress, a trade association that includes several camps that opposed the changes on the grounds that moving and rebuilding cabins would be prohibitively expensive.

In a letter to Mr. Abbott before he signed the safety legislation into law, 11 counselors who worked at Camp Mystic this summer called the bills’ passage “rushed” and asked that it be “more carefully evaluated and amended before it is fully passed into law.”

“There will be no future for Mystic and its surrounding camps,” the counselors wrote. “We want what is right for these girls that we miss so dearly while preserving the camp that we have always envisioned our babies attending, like our moms before us.”

The Eastland family said in their statement on Tuesday they were not aware of the counselors’ letter before it was sent.

In their email to past campers on Monday, the Eastlands said they were working to implement new safety protocols and make other changes required by the new legislation. They referred to the deadly flooding this summer as a “catastrophic 1,000-year weather event.”

In 2011, the Federal Emergency Management Agency placed much of Camp Mystic within a 100-year flood zone, an area considered to be at high risk of flooding. The Eastlands successfully challenged those designations, which would have limited renovation projects and required flood insurance.

The camp housed its youngest campers in cabins a short walk from the river, which overflowed and merged with a nearby creek overnight on July 4. Though other camps along the Guadalupe River had to evacuate and rescue campers, Camp Mystic was the only sleepaway camp where campers died. The flood killed more than 130 people along the river.

Next year will mark Camp Mystic’s 100th anniversary, a history that includes several other significant flash floods. But before this summer, none had proved deadly on the grounds of Mystic.

Several parents of girls who died said they still had significant questions about what happened overnight at the camp, and why evacuation plans were either nonexistent or failed spectacularly that night.

“We have not been perfect at communicating,” the Eastlands acknowledged in their email to the families of the girls who died. “The distance that has grown between some of us saddens us all.”

The families of the girls who died were particularly taken aback by the news of the memorial dedicated to their daughters, which the camp’s email said would “strive to capture the beauty, kindness and grace they all shared, while focusing on the joy they carried and will always inspire in us all.”

The camp said it would announce its 2026 dates in early October. In the past, Mystic has had a yearslong waiting list to attend, with some families signing their daughters up at birth. Beyond the campus now set to reopen, the Eastlands said they would “continue to evaluate” plans to rebuild on the original site, where the 27 girls died.

 
 

Seriously ...

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These assholes deserve to be sued to Bolivia.

 

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On 8/4/2025 at 1:58 PM, Brisketexan said:

Non-functioning FEMA and both Federal and State governments out front shoulda told ya.

The social/government compact in America and Texas in particular exists for one reason only: to ensure maximum profit/minimum costs/taxes to a very small segment of us....and fuck everyone and everything else.  

We are not seeing the system failing.  We are seeing it working flawlessly, exactly as designed.  From the moment the first raindrop fell the night of July 3-4 to present, and to infinity and beyond.  Ho-hum, same old same old.

 

 

obama and biden sent them money, not sure of it was fema money, it wasn't used for flood warming system 

Key details from the Kerr County meetings and funding issue:
  • The 2021 meeting: Video of the November 22, 2021, Kerr County Commissioners Court meeting circulated widely in July 2025. In the footage, a vocal minority of residents and some officials expressed strong opposition to accepting the $10.2 million in ARPA funds, with some calling the Biden administration "communist".
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  • Acceptance of the funds: Despite the public pushback, the commissioners ultimately voted to accept the money.
  • Use of the funds: The county did not use the money to upgrade the flood warning system, which is part of the controversy. Instead, it allocated most of the funds to other projects, including:
    • $7 million for a new radio system for the Sheriff's Department.
    • $1.1 million for hiring emergency responders.

 

 

 

 

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I don't have much of an opinion about the camp reopening. If people dedicated to the tradition of the place (aside from 27 drowned girls) want to keep it going, that's none of my business. I despise the ownership and their culpability. I despise that they claim heroism for one of the culpable who drowned with the girls. 

I'm fine if the place gets sued off the face of the earth and criminal culpability is established and prosecuted.

I don't see how the grief of the parents should control anything. They should voice their opinion and discourage participation in the camp. I'm not taking up their fight because, to me, it's one of those things that gets overplayed in the media. 

If you're not materially hurting somebody, you should have the liberty to make your own decisions. 

Again, the thought of the last moments of those girls haunts me. No longer daily, but any mention of anything related to their terrible deaths re-awakens my horror and sadness. 

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32 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

 

obama and biden sent them money, not sure of it was fema money, it wasn't used for flood warming system 

Key details from the Kerr County meetings and funding issue:
  • The 2021 meeting: Video of the November 22, 2021, Kerr County Commissioners Court meeting circulated widely in July 2025. In the footage, a vocal minority of residents and some officials expressed strong opposition to accepting the $10.2 million in ARPA funds, with some calling the Biden administration "communist".
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  • Acceptance of the funds: Despite the public pushback, the commissioners ultimately voted to accept the money.
  • Use of the funds: The county did not use the money to upgrade the flood warning system, which is part of the controversy. Instead, it allocated most of the funds to other projects, including:
    • $7 million for a new radio system for the Sheriff's Department.
    • $1.1 million for hiring emergency responders.

 

 

 

 

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You could do things for the common good -- but as was voiced LOUD AND CLEAR at that meeting, that's bad, anything that actually helps people is evil communism from the pits of hell.

Or, you could do something that further empowers our brave law enforcement officers to more efficiently crack skulls and put....well, you know who....in their place.

So many of the bad things that have happened to us (2021 power outage, the death toll in the July 4 floods) are due in large part to our society's complete pivot: anything that is for the common good is evil.  The only things that are good are 1) things that enrich the few, or 2) things that inflict pain on "the other."  Dear God, that's a recipe for a pain-filled dystopia.

Have a power grid designed to maximize the availability of power, while allowing utilities a reasonable rate of return?  EVIL.  Design it for maximum profit, with also fits nicely with the minimum margin of safety.  That is GOOD.

Spend money on flood warnings that will save dozens of lives?  Those people should pull themselves up by their bootstraps -- "public warning system" sounds like commie bullshit to me.  Better to spend that money on harder nightsticks for the cops.  Maybe some more armored vehicles, cuz you know, we're not that far from the border, knowwhatimsayin?

It's maddening.

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Camp Mystic pre-July 4, 2025 - “You can trust us with the safety of your young children.”

Camp Mystic post-July 4, 2025 - “That was a horrific act of God and there was nothing we could do. We need your sympathy and also buy these yard signs and please don’t sue us.”

Camp Mystic September 2025 - “We will be open for business again soon with new safety features (even though we still maintain that last thing could not be prevented). Please send your children back and pay your tuition and you can trust us this time for real.”


What kind of lunatic parent would ever drop their daughter off there again? I’d rather send my kid the Fyre Festival.

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8 minutes ago, wild_turkey said:

Camp Mystic pre-July 4, 2025 - “You can trust us with the safety of your young children.”

Camp Mystic post-July 4, 2025 - “That was a horrific act of God and there was nothing we could do. We need your sympathy and also buy these yard signs and please don’t sue us.”

Camp Mystic September 2025 - “We will be open for business again soon with new safety features (even though we still maintain that last thing could not be prevented). Please send your children back and pay your tuition and you can trust us this time for real.”


What kind of lunatic parent would ever drop their daughter off there again? I’d rather send my kid the Fyre Festival.

I found the wording of “1,000 year flood event” in their statement to be particularly crass. It deflects all responsibility they have in the tragedy and sounds like it was written by an attorney.

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14 minutes ago, wild_turkey said:

What kind of lunatic parent would ever drop their daughter off there again? I’d rather send my kid the Fyre Festival.

All of the mothers except for a few are pushing for them to reopen. 

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18 minutes ago, Da Fino said:

All of the mothers except for a few are pushing for them to reopen. 

I guess we’re in the few, my wife put the hammer down and we’re headed to Waldemar or we’ll just take a that exorbitant camp tuition and use it for basically anything else that doesn’t include drowning our daughter. 
 

I still think the Eastlands are getting sued out of business, but I’m a little surprised it’s taking this long. 



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