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Posted (edited)
10 minutes ago, Valmy77 said:

A 10-2 Texas plays for the SEC title right? We would definitely be in at that point.

But probably not anything worth thinking about unless we beat Georgia. I don't know man. The football gods aren't that kind.

really depends on what happens around us 

If Bama wins out they are in . 

Decent chance at some set of ties with Bama , A&M, Texas, and Ole Miss at one loss that requires spreadsheets and other games to be played 

Id be more than happy to have a bye at 10-2 championship weekend and get ready to host a home game 

at 9-3 , pray for chaos above us 


Some variation of this needs to play out for us to go to the SEC championship without getting spreadsheets involved 

Texas Wins out
Bama murders OU to remove them from playoff contention and keep things simple 
A&M loses to Mizzou/SCAR before we gut them like a fish 
Ole Miss loses to Miss State or Florida


 

Edited by BigHornedLurker
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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, BigHornedLurker said:

Texas Wins out
Bama murders OU to remove them from playoff contention and keep things simple 
A&M loses to Mizzou/SCAR before we gut them like a fish 
Ole Miss loses to Miss State or Florida


 

I think if Texas wins out and OU beats Bama then Texas is in, assuming no other upsets

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Posted
1 hour ago, Hank_Hill said:

I don’t think we’re guaranteed the title game even if we win out. Which, meh.

Same.  If we are 10-2 and miss the title game, who cares.  

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4 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Same.  If we are 10-2 and miss the title game, who cares.  

I care more about keeping aggy out of it than making it with the 12-team playoff.  Beat aggy and dash their dreams of finally making it to the SECCG after 13 seasons.  Whether we make that game or not, it don't make a shit.

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The big thing in tonight's CFP rankings will be how the committee uses SOS. 

Of the teams projected in the top 12, Texas is only behind Bama and Georgia in SOS and is 1 spot ahead of OU

aggy at 15, Ohio State 33, Indiana 39

Of teams Texas is grouped near:

Texas 11
OU 12
ND 23
Ole Miss 24
Oregon 36
Texas Tech 58

 

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1 minute ago, hornbri said:

They are talking about the SEC championship game. And it is not the case that we are in if we just win out. 

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Who cares about SECCG anymore?  Other than aggy, I mean.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Guadaloopy said:

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Who cares about SECCG anymore?  Other than aggy, I mean.

Yeah, unless you are going to get a bye by winning it (which I don’t see us getting) it doesn’t seem worth it. 

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Posted

10-2 Texas not playing SECCG would be hilarious. Then run the table and win it all. I believe that would be the first non conference championship team to win the national championship 

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Posted
11 minutes ago, immamac said:

10-2 Texas not playing SECCG would be hilarious. Then run the table and win it all. I believe that would be the first non conference championship team to win the national championship 

2011 Alabama too. 

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Posted (edited)

I care nothing about the outcome of the SEC title game. TCOB against our final three opponents and then get ready for the tournament. Those things all are under our control. 

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Posted
15 minutes ago, immamac said:

10-2 Texas not playing SECCG would be hilarious. Then run the table and win it all. I believe that would be the first non conference championship team to win the national championship 

Ohio State last year?

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Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, Valmy77 said:

A 10-2 Texas plays for the SEC title right? We would definitely be in at that point.

But probably not anything worth thinking about unless we beat Georgia. I don't know man. The football gods aren't that kind.

Not necessarily. I’d rather be 10-2 and not play for a conference championship. Just get us in the playoff, host a home game, and survive and advance. 
 

 

I don’t trust the committee to put a 3 loss non conference champion in the playoff unless shit hits the fan with other teams. 

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Posted (edited)
47 minutes ago, Guadaloopy said:

Or get a bye by not playing in SECCG.

Yes let's compare playoff and non-playoff byes because that's the same thing, right? 

Also you get multiple weeks off after the conference champ game regardless.

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8 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Not necessarily. I’d rather be 10-2 and not play for a conference championship. Just get us in the playoff, host a home game, and survive and advance. 
 

 

I don’t trust the committee to put a 3 loss non conference champion in the playoff unless shit hits the fan with other teams. 

We would be in, stop

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If we win out on regular season, we are a lock for the CCG.

If we lose the CCG, i would hope that doesn't fuck our chances for CFP.

If we win the SEC, that should be an automatic bid and probably even enough to get a first round bye.

Posted
4 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

and probably even enough to get a first round bye.

It would be easily enough. We'd have wins over OU, Vandy, aggy, Georgia and either Bama or Ole Miss likely. Or two wins over aggy. 

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Posted
5 minutes ago, Hank_Hill said:

Other things need to happen per that calculator people have been using.

I haven't seen any calculator. I'm going by this:

https://www.secsports.com/fbtiebreaker

If Texas goes undefeated, that means:

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Georgia has at least two conference losses (Texas and Alabama)

Texas A&M has at least one conference loss (Texas)

The worst case scenario would then be:

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Alabama (zero conference losses)

Texas A&M (1 conference loss, Texas)

Ole Miss (1 conference loss, Georgia)

Texas (1 conference loss, Florida)

Georgia (2 conference losses, Alabama and Texas)

The SEC says:

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In the event of a tie for a place in the Conference championship game, the following procedures will be used in the following order:

A. Head-to-head competition among the tied teams

B. Record versus all common Conference opponents among the tied teams

C. Record against highest (best) placed common Conference opponent in the Conference standings, and proceeding through the Conference standings among the tied teams

D. Cumulative Conference winning percentage of all Conference opponents among the tied teams

E. Capped relative total scoring margin (see Appendix A) per SportSource Analytics versus all Conference opponents among the tied teams

Alabama clearly would be #1 and in the CCG.

So now there's a three-way tie for #2 between Texas A&M, Ole Miss, and Texas.

Texas A&M vs. Ole Miss

A. Head-to-head competition among the tied teams (None)

B. Record versus all common Conference opponents among the tied teams (Tie, 5-0 vs. 5-0)

Spoiler

Arkansas

LSU

South Carolina

Florida

Mississippi State

C. Record against highest (best) placed common Conference opponent in the Conference standings, and proceeding through the Conference standings among the tied teams (Tie)

D. Cumulative Conference winning percentage of all Conference opponents among the tied teams (Could go either way)

Texas vs. Texas A&M

A. Head-to-head competition among the tied teams (Fuck you aggy, Texas wins the tiebreaker)

Texas vs. Ole Miss

A. Head-to-head competition among the tied teams (None)

B. Record versus all common Conference opponents among the tied teams (Tie, 5-1 vs. 5-1)

Spoiler

Kentucky (2-0)

Arkansas (2-0)

Georgia (1-1, Adv Texas)

Oklahoma (2-0)

Florida (1-1, Adv Ole Miss) worst case scenario projection is Ole Miss wins this

Mississippi State (2-0)

C. Record against highest (best) placed common Conference opponent in the Conference standings, and proceeding through the Conference standings among the tied teams (Texas via Georgia)

Spoiler

Georgia (1-1, Adv Texas)

Based on that, it would seem Texas would have the tiebreaker against both aggy and Ole Miss if all three teams wind up with just 1 conference loss.

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1 minute ago, chainsaw said:

I haven't seen any calculator. I'm going by this:

https://www.secsports.com/fbtiebreaker

If Texas goes undefeated, that means:

The worst case scenario would then be:

The SEC says:

Alabama clearly would be #1 and in the CCG.

So now there's a three-way tie for #2 between Texas A&M, Ole Miss, and Texas.

Texas A&M vs. Ole Miss

A. Head-to-head competition among the tied teams (None)

B. Record versus all common Conference opponents among the tied teams (Tie, 5-0 vs. 5-0)

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C. Record against highest (best) placed common Conference opponent in the Conference standings, and proceeding through the Conference standings among the tied teams (Tie)

D. Cumulative Conference winning percentage of all Conference opponents among the tied teams (Could go either way)

Texas vs. Texas A&M

A. Head-to-head competition among the tied teams (Fuck you aggy, Texas wins the tiebreaker)

Texas vs. Ole Miss

A. Head-to-head competition among the tied teams (None)

B. Record versus all common Conference opponents among the tied teams (Tie, 5-1 vs. 5-1)

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C. Record against highest (best) placed common Conference opponent in the Conference standings, and proceeding through the Conference standings among the tied teams (Texas via Georgia)

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Based on that, it would seem Texas would have the tiebreaker against both aggy and Ole Miss if all three teams wind up with just 1 conference loss.

This is what I thought as well, apparently some very new rule for this season and this season only is there that has some round robin language that is fucking stupid and basically makes it where ole miss gets the nod. 

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1 minute ago, chainsaw said:

I haven't seen any calculator. I'm going by this:

https://www.secsports.com/fbtiebreaker

If Texas goes undefeated, that means:

The worst case scenario would then be:

The SEC says:

Alabama clearly would be #1 and in the CCG.

So now there's a three-way tie for #2 between Texas A&M, Ole Miss, and Texas.

Texas A&M vs. Ole Miss

A. Head-to-head competition among the tied teams (None)

B. Record versus all common Conference opponents among the tied teams (Tie, 5-0 vs. 5-0)

  Reveal hidden contents

Arkansas

LSU

South Carolina

Florida

Mississippi State

C. Record against highest (best) placed common Conference opponent in the Conference standings, and proceeding through the Conference standings among the tied teams (Tie)

D. Cumulative Conference winning percentage of all Conference opponents among the tied teams (Could go either way)

Texas vs. Texas A&M

A. Head-to-head competition among the tied teams (Fuck you aggy, Texas wins the tiebreaker)

Texas vs. Ole Miss

A. Head-to-head competition among the tied teams (None)

B. Record versus all common Conference opponents among the tied teams (Tie, 5-1 vs. 5-1)

  Reveal hidden contents

Kentucky (2-0)

Arkansas (2-0)

Georgia (1-1, Adv Texas)

Oklahoma (2-0)

Florida (1-1, Adv Ole Miss) worst case scenario projection is Ole Miss wins this

Mississippi State (2-0)

C. Record against highest (best) placed common Conference opponent in the Conference standings, and proceeding through the Conference standings among the tied teams (Texas via Georgia)

  Reveal hidden contents

Georgia (1-1, Adv Texas)

Based on that, it would seem Texas would have the tiebreaker against both aggy and Ole Miss if all three teams wind up with just 1 conference loss.

That’s not how the three way tiebreakers work.

The same tiebreaker has to be applied to all three first to narrow down to two. (Record against common opps - our loss to Florida would knock us out of the three way tie).

https://bball.notnothing.net/sec.php?sport=fb

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Posted
3 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

Based on that, it would seem Texas would have the tiebreaker against both aggy and Ole Miss if all three teams wind up with just 1 conference loss.

Ole Miss has the 3-way between Texas and atm.

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The language "a loss to a team that fired its head coach" is stupid as fuck. What does that have to do with that game? Napier didn't get fired because he won the Texas game. Every head coach in the country is getting fired right now. Didn't they fire him then with an interim staff almost beat Georgia? It's a pretty stacked Florida team. They suck but they have played up to competition a couple times this season regardless of who the HC was. 

I guess Bama's loss to FSU is fine because Norvell hasn't been fired yet. Otherwise people could say "Bama lost to a team that fired it's head coach!"

I get if you want to punish Texas for barely squeaking by teams like MSST and UK but that UF loss isn't some abysmal failure. Florida is 2-0 at home in the SEC. 

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Just now, Ghost of Shag said:

Then the SEC would get four teams in.

Into the SEC championship game? how would that work? You aren't reading this thread very well. 

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