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4 minutes ago, DalTxHornFan said:

Dumb take, but thanks.

Calling in the guard from Mississippi, a state whose capital has a homicide rate four times that of DC, makes helluvahlotta sense.

There’s a convicted felon and pedophile running free in DC. Why not arrested? SAD!

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Just now, DalTxHornFan said:

I saw people killed for no apparent reason in Columbus Circle and by the Morton's in Georgetown.

I've seen US citizens kidnapped by masked federalized goons for no apparent reason.

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Posted
6 minutes ago, DalTxHornFan said:

Bless your heart.

Seriously. Have you not seen the reports of American citizens also being rounded up? No sarcasm.

Posted (edited)
7 minutes ago, bolverk said:

Seriously. Have you not seen the reports of American citizens also being rounded up? No sarcasm.

I get that there may have been some mistakes, but I don't buy the idea of many dire outcomes for people who are legit.  If that happened, it shouldn't have.  I am not a bomb thrower, despite my reputation here!

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2 minutes ago, DalTxHornFan said:

I get that there may have been some mistakes, but I don't buy the idea of many dire outcomes for people who are legit.  If that happened, it shouldn't have.  I am not a bomb thrower, despite my reputation here!

Do you know how you can best avoid those types of mistakes? Maybe some sort of judicial finding based on due process, a notion that's been around for, I dunno, about 800 years.

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Just now, bolverk said:

Do you know how you can best avoid those types of mistakes? Maybe some sort of judicial finding based on due process, a notion that's been around for, I dunno, about 800 years.

Yeah, we have been doing that drill for years.  Non-citizens have no due process.  Economic cases have no basis for amnesty.  Cloward-Piven strategy at work. No thank you. 

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Posted (edited)
8 minutes ago, DalTxHornFan said:

Yeah, we have been doing that drill for years.  Non-citizens have no due process.  Economic cases have no basis for amnesty.  Cloward-Piven strategy at work. No thank you. 

Citizens apparently also have no due process, except for the luck of the draw. Again, we are seeing US citizens also being rounded up in this bullshit.

How about you go get yourself detained for a few days in Alligator Alcatraz and come back and report on how you feel about due process being denied to Americans because of their accents or skin color?

Edit: Your random Cloward–Piven reference is bizarre. 

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1 minute ago, bolverk said:

Citizens apparently also have no due process, except for the luck of the draw. Again, we are seeing US citizens also being rounded up in this bullshit.

How about you go get yourself detained for a few days in Alligator Alcatraz and come back and report on how you feel about due process being denied to Americans because of their accents or skin color?

You sound really silly.  But thanks for playing.

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No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;

Huh that's weird. They totally wrote citizen in one clause and then used person in the next. Must just be scrivener's error. 

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nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;

Huh just used person there too. That Madison guy just kept using those words he clearly didn't intend to mean.

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1 hour ago, DalTxHornFan said:

I don't live in DC, but have worked up there a bunch. I have seen dead bodies on the ground.  Not great, Bob.

You're a fucking idiot

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Putting Trump aside for the moment.

Stirring up crime fear among a non-involved populace and subsequent governmental over-reaction is one of the oldest political stunts in the book.  The governmental overreaction almost always involves terrible and expensive policy that sacrifices civil rights and does little or nothing for public safety.

Think satanic panic, Biden crime bill, Miami and cocaine, the examples are endless.

People are getting suckered in the worst possible way.

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Posted
1 hour ago, TwiceHorn said:

Stirring up crime fear among a non-involved populace and subsequent governmental over-reaction is one of the oldest political stunts in the book.  The governmental overreaction almost always involves terrible and expensive policy that sacrifices civil rights and does little or nothing for public safety.

In the 1930s, the nazis deployed brown shirts and filled their ranks with the dregs of society that didn't have a job or prospects to look forward to. They then used that paramilitary force to attack their "untermensch" and political enemies.

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/german-police-in-the-nazi-state

We are at the point where the feds are hospitalizing journalists and activists for asking too many questions and taking too many pictures. The posse of highschool drop outs that ICE is hiring is just a modernization of hitlers Brown shirts - a paramilitary force that answers only to their fuhrer and doesn't give a shit about breaking the law or protecting public safety.

Posted
2 hours ago, Captainant said:

In the 1930s, the nazis deployed brown shirts and filled their ranks with the dregs of society that didn't have a job or prospects to look forward to. They then used that paramilitary force to attack their "untermensch" and political enemies.

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/german-police-in-the-nazi-state

We are at the point where the feds are hospitalizing journalists and activists for asking too many questions and taking too many pictures. The posse of highschool drop outs that ICE is hiring is just a modernization of hitlers Brown shirts - a paramilitary force that answers only to their fuhrer and doesn't give a shit about breaking the law or protecting public safety.

Godwin's law wins again!

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