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35 minutes ago, flatdawgs said:

Please tell me you guys aren't going to Chili's. 

Those frosty margs at 45th & Lamar sure are nice and tasty.

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Talarico is very very close to the ideal Texas Democratic Senate candidate:

White male.

Super duper duper Christian and knows how to articulate that to people across the spectrum.  

Speaks Spanish.

Background in education and is able to seem authentic and come across as a true public servant rather than a super-ambitious power hungry egomaniac (which was what I thought killed Beto).

Legislative experience.

Understands that the way for Democrats to message is to constantly reframe almost every issue as a class (rich vs poor) issue instead of whatever bullshit the MAGA side is spouting.

 

The one thing he’s missing is being pro gun.  I haven’t seen much from him on the topic.  But he needs to learn how to shoot and if/when he wins the primary he needs to release an ad showing him frying bacon on an AK47 that he just emptied the clip on.  Texans are fucking morons and won’t vote for somebody they think will take their guns.  And if there’s an attack on Talarico, it’s that he’s too soft of a personality.  Undoubtedly the attack ads will say stupid shit like “Talarico wants to take your guns and let illegal immigrants walk through your yard…”

He probably doesn’t have a chance.  He will have a better shot against Paxton than Cornyn.  But I do think he’s a better candidate than Beto was.

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3 minutes ago, Snake Diggity said:

He probably doesn’t have a chance.  He will have a better shot against Paxton than Cornyn.  But I do think he’s a better candidate than Beto was.

I'm still not convinced he wins his primary.  He's the Christian version of Elizabeth Warren, which probably explains his support in these parts.  

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12 minutes ago, LCHorn said:

I'm still not convinced he wins his primary.  He's the Christian version of Elizabeth Warren, which probably explains his support in these parts.  

I’m not convinced he wins the primary either.  But if the Dems choose a black man who just lost a senate race last cycle against a lesser opponent or a proven loser in Beto, they deserve the shellacking they will end up getting.  Talarico probably doesn’t have much of a chance of winning the general, but he’s got a shitload better shot than Beto or Allred.

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Curious if you folks want an AMA with Talarico.  He said he'd be up for it.   Still want to bring Kendall in too, but we can't have them on the same night, for fear someone might sense Kendall is endorsing Talarico.  

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I don't dip my toes in here too much but I'm curious what the Surly CR thinks about this guy. My first exposure to him was his appearance on Rogan and I'm not sure I finished the pod but I was intrigued by the niche space that he is attempting to occupy.

I saw an ad earlier today about him asking for donations and was tempted to drop a few simoleons. 

I've used "moderate" to describe myself in the past but I don't think I like that label because it kind of implies I don't give a shit. I have serious issues with both parties and the system as a whole but this dude piques my interest and is someone I would vote for (I vote dem all the time in case anyone was wondering - just not a straight ticket guy).

Like all of you I'm frustrated with the state this country is in right now - and while I don't agree with and have a problem with a lot of the rhetoric on this board I also want the best for the people in this country.

Guys like this that attempt to occupy middle ground without conceding integrity or ethics could be very valuable for the democratic party. 

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3 minutes ago, ztejas said:

I don't dip my toes in here too much but I'm curious what the Surly CR thinks about this guy. My first exposure to him was his appearance on Rogan and I'm not sure I finished the pod but I was intrigued by the niche space that he is attempting to occupy.

I saw an ad earlier today about him asking for donations and was tempted to drop a few simoleons. 

I've used "moderate" to describe myself in the past but I don't think I like that label because it kind of implies I don't give a shit. I have serious issues with both parties and the system as a whole but this dude piques my interest and is someone I would vote for (I vote dem all the time in case anyone was wondering - just not a straight ticket guy).

Like all of you I'm frustrated with the state this country is in right now - and while I don't agree with and have a problem with a lot of the rhetoric on this board I also want the best for the people in this country.

Guys like this that attempt to occupy middle ground without conceding integrity or ethics could be very valuable for the democratic party. 

Moderates are the reason we are where we are. The attempts to appease centrists only serve to make progressives apathetic and not turn out and vote. We are here because the DNC hasn't stood for anything, and as long as they keep rolling with moderates we will keep losing. 

 

Let me run you back through the democratic time machine for a bit. The D's spent the back half of the 60's righting a lot of wrongs. Back then the R's are what the D's currently are now.They spent their time droning on about policies, and the populace was tuning them out. Their attempts at reversing New Deal Era policies weren't popular. So they tied them to identity politics to get people to ignore the policies that were against their own interest, and instead vote for keeping minorities and women under thumb. From 1968 til now they've won 9 of the last 15 Presidential terms. The problem is that people do not want two right wing parties, and the DNC has been Republican lite. So as long as they are roughly the same true progressives and people that wanna see real change will keep staying home. 

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4 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

Moderates are the reason we are where we are. The attempts to appease centrists only serve to make progressives apathetic and not turn out and vote. We are here because the DNC hasn't stood for anything, and as long as they keep rolling with moderates we will keep losing. 

 

Let me run you back through the democratic time machine for a bit. The D's spent the back half of the 60's righting a lot of wrongs. Back then the R's are what the D's currently are now.They spent their time droning on about policies, and the populace was tuning them out. Their attempts at reversing New Deal Era policies weren't popular. So they tied them to identity politics to get people to ignore the policies that were against their own interest, and instead vote for keeping minorities and women under thumb. From 1968 til now they've won 9 of the last 15 Presidential terms. The problem is that people do not want two right wing parties, and the DNC has been Republican lite. So as long as they are roughly the same true progressives and people that wanna see real change will keep staying home. 

I mean this is just random political pablum. Can you address anything I said specifically or give us your thoughts on Talarico? 

There is a reason why I posted in this thread vs. all the others in CR. 

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We all like Jimmy a lot but have differing outlooks on his chances. Seeing you on here gives me hope he’s connecting with a new cohort of independent voters. We’re still over a year away but I think his campaign is off to a great start. I think he’ll win the primary. The base will get on their phones and door knock their neighborhoods for him next year.

The post up thread about his framing of the issues as The 1% versus the rest of us was spot on. I think that will speak volumes next year when the economy is in the shitter. He has a winning message.

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37 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

Moderates are the reason we are where we are. The attempts to appease centrists only serve to make progressives apathetic and not turn out and vote.


And yet attempts to appease progressives make folks like me apathetic, so we're at loggerheads. 



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