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I can’t decide which industry is loaded with the most scam professionals. There are so many potentials candidates. Here are the three that stick out to me:

1. Air conditioning companies

2. Dentists

3. Lawyers 

I’m getting my AC fixed and it’s unbelievable how unethical and shitty these companies are. But my experience with dentists and lawyers is also pretty bad. 

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42 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

I can’t decide which industry is loaded with the most scam professionals. There are so many potentials candidates. Here are the three that stick out to me:

1. Air conditioning companies

2. Dentists

3. Lawyers 

I’m getting my AC fixed and it’s unbelievable how unethical and shitty these companies are. But my experience with dentists and lawyers is also pretty bad. 


How is dentistry a scam? 
 

 

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28 minutes ago, Dnaguy said:


How is dentistry a scam? 
 

 

Unnecessary dental work. It’s huge. Sorry that you’ve got mouth full of fake cavities. 

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35 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

Unnecessary dental work. It’s huge. Sorry that you’ve got mouth full of fake cavities. 

I’ve never had a cavity in my life

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1 hour ago, TwiceHorn said:

Pretty much all "service" companies, a/c, plumbing, etc. are shit now thanks to private equity.

This is the truth. They’ve bought a lot of the roofing companies and those have become huge scams. Also plumbing,  

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If you are going through a big "company" for plumbing or electrical or anything like that, you are doing it wrong, friendo.

 

Everyone needs a plumber/electrician/handyman/tree/AC guy and they should probably be Mexican.  NoCR

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5 minutes ago, huge said:

If you are going through a big "company" for plumbing or electrical or anything like that, you are doing it wrong, friendo.

 

Everyone needs a plumber/electrician/handyman/tree/AC guy and they should probably be Mexican.  NoCR

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Frankly it's really about having good recommendations and finding people you trust.

Most of my service people now are all recommendations and I've been super happy with them. 

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My oldest son-in-law is a plumber and my younger son-in-law is working on getting his license as a plumber.  I still do my own work for the most part though but if I need something larger, I am covered.  I am trying to encourage my older granddaughters to get into the Electrician and HVAC industries. 😁  

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In no particular order:

Lawyers

Car insurance 

Lawyers 

Homeowners insurance 

Big AC/ plumbing company 

Car dealership 

Lawyers

Cell phone company 

Edit I had a dentist try to sell me extra bullshit one time, said no and switched dentists

 

 

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21 minutes ago, Captain Ron said:

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Frankly it's really about having good recommendations and finding people you trust.

Most of my service people now are all recommendations and I've been super happy with them. 

When dealing with plumbers, AC guys, general contractors, I usually tell them "John" referred me to them. I don't know John but chances are they've done work for some dude named John. It probably doesn't mean much but I hope it keeps them honest knowing that I got a "referral" and I'm apt to give a referral if asked.

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3 hours ago, Dnaguy said:


How is dentistry a scam? 
 

 

Private equity buying up Dental, Ortho and Veterinarian shops and doing what PE does.  First thing you should do going into any of these is to inquire about ownership.  If PE owned, find somewhere else that isn't.  

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6 minutes ago, Zwylde said:

Private equity buying up Dental, Ortho and Veterinarian shops and doing what PE does.  First thing you should do going into any of these is to inquire about ownership.  If PE owned, find somewhere else that isn't.  

I hadn't thought of this but this is damned good advice. For profit soulless dickless fuckheads investing in medical practice is providing tremendous benefit to patient care and costs. Tremendous!!!!!

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Just now, crash_davis said:

I hadn't thought of this but this is damned good advice. For profit soulless dickless fuckheads investing in medical practice is providing tremendous benefit to patient care and costs. Tremendous!!!!!

It's complete ASSWATER!!!

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1 hour ago, Zwylde said:

Private equity buying up Dental, Ortho and Veterinarian shops and doing what PE does.  First thing you should do going into any of these is to inquire about ownership.  If PE owned, find somewhere else that isn't.  

I've dealt with two corporate vets recently and while the doctors were just as caring and professional as you'd want it was sickening the amount of upselling and extras they try to pawn off on you. My main vet is a local 1 location practice but they are always booked solid for 2+ weeks and the corporate places you can usually get in to see someone within a day. 

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We moved up to NC and I went to the dentist down the street. They sold me on invisalign and then a year later I had a new dentist tending to me at the same practice telling me i needed a custom mouthguard at night and had no idea that I'd even ever had invisalign. I'm glad to have the gap straightened out in my front teeth but the mouthguard thing threw me and I immediately went out and found a local practice owned by the guys with DDS after their name.

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Realtors and the entire RE industry.  It's a 6 week class that doesn't even require a HS degree.  It's completley built upon conflict of interest and collusion.  

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14 minutes ago, midtown said:

Realtors and the entire RE industry.  It's a 6 week class that doesn't even require a HS degree.  It's completley built upon conflict of interest and collusion.  

I guess we’re still dealing with their cartel being dismantled.

I wonder how much that profession remains / can support their pay.

Likely won’t be as immediate as let’s say travel agents but I assume there is / will be a hard downward pressure on their commission which should push people out of that field. Eventually there will be an equilibrium that is met unless something technical like AI or Blockchain completely makes them irrelevant.

The internet got us half way there, but their cartel / political interests protected them. The whole property ownership, deeds, $ being exchanged, banks, and tax implications also insulates them as well. Again, if there is / are multiple tech advancement(s) that can assuage the fears or stipulations of those interests then you’re looking at a dead field completely.

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8 minutes ago, Dnaguy said:

I guess we’re still dealing with their cartel being dismantled.

I wonder how much that profession remains / can support their pay.

Likely won’t be as immediate as let’s say travel agents but I assume there is / will be a hard downward pressure on their commission which should push people out of that field. Eventually there will be an equilibrium that is met unless something technical like AI or Blockchain completely makes them irrelevant.

The internet got us half way there, but their cartel / political interests protected them. The whole property ownership, deeds, $ being exchanged, banks, and tax implications also insulates them as well. Again, if a/ multiple tech advancement(s) that can assuage the fears or stipulations of those interests then you’re looking at a dead field. 

Thankfully I expect 90% of realtors to be out of the business and completey unecessary within 5-10 years thanks to AI and blockchain. If it weren't for their massive lobby this would have been over 5 years ago.  I've never in my life met anyone involved in realty to be a honest or genuine person.  They either migrate to that profession because they are fake and morally bankrupt or the industry turns them into one. 

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2 hours ago, crash_davis said:

I hadn't thought of this but this is damned good advice. For profit soulless dickless fuckheads investing in medical practice is providing tremendous benefit to patient care and costs. Tremendous!!!!!

Hospital administration, hospital systems, suck more life out of our economy, our well-being, than any of the other industries listed.  Their consolidation of medical practices, collusion with insurance, big pharma, med tech industry, and "pharmacy benefit managers," has resulted in every single bill being a completely made-up number, with no relation at all to the actual services or medications or benefit rendered, and the quality of care (and doctor-patient relationship) being, at the best, significantly impaired.  They make used car salesmen look like principled gentlemen.

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4 minutes ago, midtown said:

Thankfully I expect 90% of realtors to be out of the business and completey unecessary within 5-10 years thanks to AI and blockchain. If it weren't for their massive lobby this would have been over 5 years ago.  I've never in my life met anyone involved in realty to be a honest or genuine person.  They either migrate to that profession because they are fake and morally bankrupt or the industry turns them into one. 

 

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We’ll see….
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The most annoying, insufferable, loud mouth bitch at our local pub is involved with hard money lending. Just listening to her rant on & on about the "services" they provide that banks & credit unions can't has made it clear to me that they're about as ethical as payday loan providers.

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I never intended to practice law for an occupation but in 1981 I was faced with a decision: go to law school or dig ditches for a living.  I said to my dear bride, Mrs. Llama, “But there’s a lawyer on every street corner and we’ve never known a good one.”  
 She said, “Law school is three years.  Med school is six years, and a lot longer before you’re earning any significant money.  Tell me, big guy, if you don’t ho to law school, where will we be three years from now?”

I went.  I discovered that if I pronounced my clients’ names correctly, showed up on time for appointments, and was honest, I would never hurt for clients

I don’t think of myself as a lawyer but I do practice law as an occupation. I’ve never scammed anyone but I have bern scammed by vendors of equipment, supplies, and phone/internet/email services.

 

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5 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

Pretty much all "service" companies, a/c, plumbing, etc. are shit now thanks to private equity.

Also, with the advent of YouTube, there are videos out there for a majority of the basic-to-intermediate repairs which are the high margin (read: easy) work that service technicians used for a good portfolio mix with the harder, more complex, lower margin work.

I just saw this firsthand had to replace a basic part/appliance which felt very basic and straightforward, got quotes which were all very high for 30 minutes worth of work if you do it all day. Granted it took me 90 minutes while watching two Youtube videos and taking a couple of breaks to watch college football since I basically did the work during commercials.

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6 hours ago, Dbeasy said:

I can’t decide which industry is loaded with the most scam professionals. There are so many potentials candidates. Here are the three that stick out to me:

1. Air conditioning companies

2. Dentists

3. Lawyers 

I’m getting my AC fixed and it’s unbelievable how unethical and shitty these companies are. But my experience with dentists and lawyers is also pretty bad. 

The answer of the #1 scumbags and scammers is door to door solar panel sellers.

#2 is door to door roofing scam sellers.

Everything else is an order of magnitude below (but agree that dentists are less trustworthy than most think).

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1 hour ago, midtown said:

Realtors and the entire RE industry.  It's a 6 week class that doesn't even require a HS degree.  It's completley built upon conflict of interest and collusion.  

 

1 hour ago, Dnaguy said:

I guess we’re still dealing with their cartel being dismantled.

I wonder how much that profession remains / can support their pay.

Likely won’t be as immediate as let’s say travel agents but I assume there is / will be a hard downward pressure on their commission which should push people out of that field. Eventually there will be an equilibrium that is met unless something technical like AI or Blockchain completely makes them irrelevant.

The internet got us half way there, but their cartel / political interests protected them. The whole property ownership, deeds, $ being exchanged, banks, and tax implications also insulates them as well. Again, if there is / are multiple tech advancement(s) that can assuage the fears or stipulations of those interests then you’re looking at a dead field completely.

 

1 hour ago, midtown said:

Thankfully I expect 90% of realtors to be out of the business and completey unecessary within 5-10 years thanks to AI and blockchain. If it weren't for their massive lobby this would have been over 5 years ago.  I've never in my life met anyone involved in realty to be a honest or genuine person.  They either migrate to that profession because they are fake and morally bankrupt or the industry turns them into one. 

I forgot about realtors. That’s a good one. As I’ve stated in the real estate thread, I went out and got my own license after dealing with a few absolute realtor idiots. I handle my own transactions, and do family and friends if they need it. What I saw would enrage a typical consumer. 

The actual concept of a realtor is not terrible. Lawyers can do the paperwork, but are not equipped to deal with the analysis of properties and negotiations necessary to buy or sell a property. The problem is that 90% of realtors do a terrible job on both of those areas as well. And the commission structures are stupid. Expensive homes have way too high of commissions. 

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55 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

 

 

I forgot about realtors. That’s a good one. As I’ve stated in the real estate thread, I went out and got my own license after dealing with a few absolute realtor idiots. I handle my own transactions, and do family and friends if they need it. What I saw would enrage a typical consumer. 

The actual concept of a realtor is not terrible. Lawyers can do the paperwork, but are not equipped to deal with the analysis of properties and negotiations necessary to buy or sell a property. The problem is that 90% of realtors do a terrible job on both of those areas as well. And the commission structures are stupid. Expensive homes have way too high of commissions. 

Between commissions, gov subsidized mortgage rate / loan structures, offloading of the loans after they’re cut, and the fact  that having higher values of properties is beneficial to local governments and their taxes intake, the incentive structure is all kinds of fucked up when it comes to buying homes.
Add the emotional aspect of home buying and you’ve got a shit strew. 

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3 hours ago, midtown said:

Thankfully I expect 90% of realtors to be out of the business and completey unecessary within 5-10 years thanks to AI and blockchain. If it weren't for their massive lobby this would have been over 5 years ago.  I've never in my life met anyone involved in realty to be a honest or genuine person.  They either migrate to that profession because they are fake and morally bankrupt or the industry turns them into one. 

This seems to be a US-real estate phenomenon, where there's a lot of leeway which allows for cowboyism in the way it's handled.

Elsewhere, the real estate transaction process is extremely formalized, standardized, digitalized, yet there's still tons of agents. They handhold people through the listing process, inspections, compliance, and so on. Strong legislation narrowly define the allowable practices by the actors, so there's not room for "shady" stuff, but as with anything in life there's always a need for the role of advice-givers. 

I've had to work with a bunch of them in recent times, like recent-recent, and they've all been very pleasant to deal with.

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8 hours ago, Dnaguy said:


How is dentistry a scam? 
 

 

Over Christmas break a few years ago, I had a root canal go bad and had a scheduled visit with an endodontist the week after the break to try to redo it and save the tooth. Well, the week wore on and my antibiotics script ran out and my dentist's office was closed, so I visited a chain dental place that happened to be open to see if they could renew my antibiotics for the week. The dentist there told me that going to the endodontist was a waste of time and that she could pull the tooth now and start the implant process for the low low cost of $5,000.

I declined and after some pressure they gave me the antibiotic and sure enough the endodontist, a former Army dentist, fixed it right up in like an hour for a $50 copay.

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