2019 Houston Astros Thread

[Steamboat1874 4028]

Just now, tx 3 putt said:

All that matters is winning game 4

Rain

[Wishbone 4729]

4 minutes ago, Steamboat1874 said:

Rain

Yes. But there will still be a game 4 at some point, and we need to win it.

[Pimphand 5552]

It will be Tanaka vs Greinke on Thursday in a Game 1 rematch.

Or do you run Tanaka vs Urquidy and give them game 4 and crank Greinke, Verlander, and Cole against Paxton, Bullpen, and Severino?

[Fondren & Main 6626]

18 minutes ago, Steamboat1874 said:

Rain

Advantage aggy.

[tx 3 putt 75959]

you start Grienke, Urquidy first guy out of the BP 

[Hank Chinaski 6310]

1 hour ago, Planet Houston said:

Hey guys, I have a confession. 

I fucking love José Altuve. 

Literally?

[Guadaloopy 10890]

2 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

you start Grienke, Urquidy first guy out of the BP 

There’s a fine line between being aggressive and getting greedy.   Try to close it out in six or stay the course for seven?   I lean towards starting Urquidy and hoping for an Anibal Sanchez/Brandon Backe outing.  We’ve seen him do it.  He keeps the ball down which is a big plus against the Jankees.  

[TonyTexas 10467]

3 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

you start Grienke, Urquidy first guy out of the BP 

I think you have to save Urquidy for Game 6 if we’re up 3-2. If we’re down 2-3 then you have to consider Cole on short rest. 

[Guadaloopy 10890]

1 minute ago, TonyTexas said:

I think you have to save Urquidy for Game 6 if we’re up 3-2. If we’re down 2-3 then you have to consider Cole on short rest. 

Nm  

Edited October 16, 2019 by Guadaloopy
Pardon my idiocy.

[TonyTexas 10467]

Just now, Guadaloopy said:

I think we are talking about game 4.  

I know. I still think you have to save Urquidy for a start. 

[kevwun 15572]

Yeah because if you burn both in Game 4, you don't have anyone for a game 7.

[Michael Knight 12852]

On 10/14/2019 at 12:05 AM, Grade of D as in David said:

Jesus Frank Thomas makes Big Papi look like a child.

Nugenix works

[Pimphand 5552]

7 minutes ago, TonyTexas said:

I think you have to save Urquidy for Game 6 if we’re up 3-2. If we’re down 2-3 then you have to consider Cole on short rest. 

Or you let your nuts hang and run Urquidy out there on Thursday then you ensure Verlander and Cole both go on normal rest at home.

[Guadaloopy 10890]

8 minutes ago, Pimphand said:

Or you let your nuts hang and run Urquidy out there on Thursday then you ensure Verlander and Cole both go on normal rest at home.

This gets my vote.  

[UTexasFight 9362]

What the fuck are you guys talking about?
If there is a rainout, you start your 3rd best pitcher on full rest.

You don’t “give them game 4.” You don’t “stay the course for a 6/7 game series”. You don’t have your fourth starter be the first guy out of the bullpen when he will be needed to make a start on Saturday if you drop a game Thurs or Fri.

You take what the baseball gods give you and play your best players and stomp on their throats.
You don’t get more points for winning a series in 6 or 7 games vs only 5.

[Scraps 13518]

Anyone here a photoshop master?

[Scraps 13518]

Hey guys, I have a confession. 
I fucking love José Altuve. 

If you don't you're gay

[Wishbone 4729]

22 minutes ago, TonyTexas said:

I think you have to save Urquidy for Game 6 if we’re up 3-2. If we’re down 2-3 then you have to consider Cole on short rest. 

I hear ya, but we ain’t goin’ down 2-3.

[huge 3787]

I don’t know about U

But ima let my nutz hang

[Guadaloopy 10890]

Let’s not overthink it.   It’s a four game series.  We need a split.  Yankees need a win.  That’s really hard to do, not even factoring in Cole and Verlander.  If the Yankees go Tanaka for G4, I think you definitely go Urquidy and watch their hearts break when we steal that game.   

[huge 3787]

I don’t know about U

But ima let my nutz hang

[huge 3787]

Someone post the JCVD astros dance plz

[Pimphand 5552]

12 minutes ago, huge said:

I don’t know about U

But ima let my nutz hang

 

[Fudge Nuggets 19111]

34 minutes ago, Pimphand said:

Or you let your nuts hang and run Urquidy out there on Thursday then you ensure Verlander and Cole both go on normal rest at home.

This is the correct answer.  People need to stop over analyzing it.

[pwinger 35]

36 minutes ago, huge said:

I don’t know about U

But ima let my nutz hang

Agreed

 

The nuts shall hang.

[clapclapclap 9000]

Wed = rain

Thu = Greinke on full rest

Fri = JV on full rest

Sat* = Urquidy and friends 

Sun* = Cole on full rest

 

You use your best that's available on full rest to close out as soon as possible.  Who knows who could get injured in a game 6 or a game 7?  JV or Cole could crash through a glass table while having spider nightmares on Friday/Sat night.

Edited October 16, 2019 by clapclapclap

[WBT 20376]

What are we expecting out of Peacock?  Can he piggyback with Urquidy and go 3-4 innings?

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19025]

Someone post the JCVD astros dance plz

Of what are you speaking of? I would like to see said dance

[Guadaloopy 10890]

2 minutes ago, clapclapclap said:

Wed = rain

Thu = Greinke on full rest

Fri = JV on full rest

Sat* = Urquidy and friends 

Sun* = Cole on full rest

I don’t really disagree with this.  But I also get the sense that Urquidy is the kind of guy who can go out and steal one for you if you trust him rather than go with him because he’s the best available option.  Show some confidence in the kid.  

[TexArcher 37414]

Have I told y'all how fucking happy I am right now?

Because I am really fucking happy right now.

[Mez2 4020]

51 minutes ago, huge said:

I don’t know about U

But ima let my nutz hang

Switch 4 lanes? 

[Mez2 4020]

[UTexasFight 9362]

I really don’t get you guys (arguing Urquidy for game 4 on thurs), but whatever you think...in case of a rainout and you pitch Urquidy Thursday, your rotation is fucked for the WS if it goes 7. Urquidy is the only guy available on full rest for WS game 1.

Besides, Hinch already showed us how he’s going to play up 2-1 in a series (hint: aggressive)

 

In case of a rainout,

Thursday: Greinke vs Tanaka(full rest)

Friday: JV vs Paxton (full rest)

Saturday: Urquidy vs bullpen (that will be asked to pitch a third straight day after already logging 15.1 IP in the first 3 games).

 

If you can’t get 2 wins out of that, you have Cole on full rest on Sunday.

 

Gives you JV to close it out in Yankee Stadium on Friday if you win Thursday.

Or gives you JV to give you a 3-2 lead heading back home if you don’t win with Grienke.

 

Alternative is Urquidy pitching in Yankee Stadium in game 4 and Greinke backing him up. If Urquidy is going to pitch in this series, I’d prefer it at home and JV in Yankee Stadium.

 

Close this shit out. Don’t play for a 6 and 7 with JV and Cole.

Let them start WS games 1 and 2

 

 

 

[tx 3 putt 75959]

1 minute ago, UTexasFight said:

I really don’t get you guys, but whatever you think...in case of a rainout and you pitch Urquidy Thursday, your rotation is fucked if it goes 7. Urquidy is the only guy available on full rest for WS game 1.

you worry about WS game 1 starter, after you win #4 v the yankees

[UTexasFight 9362]

I don’t really disagree with this.  But I also get the sense that Urquidy is the kind of guy who can go out and steal one for you if you trust him rather than go with him because he’s the best available option.  Show some confidence in the kid.  

I’m with you and I like Urquidy a lot, but we’re not a team that needs to “steal” anything.
We’re the 900 lb gorilla that won 107 games and don’t need to get cute setting up a rotation for games that don’t need to be necessary and leaves you playing all your aces as if there is no other series to get to

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19025]

If there is a rain out, I'll be at Game 5 with my JV jersey.

[Guadaloopy 10890]

1 minute ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

If there is a rain out, I'll be at Game 5 with my JV jersey.

And a jacket.  Don’t forget your jacket.  

[UTexasFight 9362]

And a jacket.  Don’t forget your jacket.  

Beat me to it

Dammit!

[UTexasFight 9362]

Excellent.

Get rusty in DC

Enjoy your longest break since last off season

 

See you in Houston for the first pitch of the WS in ~165 hours.

[huge 3787]

Someone post the JCVD astros dance plz

[huge 3787]

Also the Yankees gave my phone TapaAIDS

[Planet Houston 4921]

19 minutes ago, UTexasFight said:

Excellent.

Get rusty in DC

Enjoy your longest break since last off season

 

See you in Houston for the first pitch of the WS in ~165 hours.

In the purely hypothetical situation where they don’t play the Yankees, of course

[Pimphand 5552]

Yeah never go full Helobius

[huge 3787]

Does the Nats victory change the prospective time of a game Saturday, if we somehow actually need it?

[TexArcher 37414]

1 hour ago, UTexasFight said:

Close this shit out. Don’t play for a 6 and 7 with JV and Cole.

Let them start WS games 1 and 2

I like the aggressive mindset.  But I don't like asking aces to go on short rest unless we're the ones facing elimination.  We already saw what happened to JV on short rest: it turned a 5-star pitcher into a 3-star pitcher.  I'm for saving Cole for Game 7 on full rest unless we're down 3-2.  The whole point of having Game 7 at home and Gerrit Cole is that it makes us about 85% to win that game.

And here's the thing: I genuinely believe that we can pitch Urquidy and Greinke in 4 and 5 and get a win.  The Yankees have scored 3 runs in the last 20 innings.  They're gonna hear about it for two full days with a rainout.  Hell, it's already in their heads.  

And if we can get a split without burning JV, they are done.  

Edited October 16, 2019 by TexArcher

[TexArcher 37414]

Or, if they take Game 4, we can throw JV in 5, Greinke in 6, and Cole in 7.

[Scraps 13518]

Does the Nats victory change the prospective time of a game Saturday, if we somehow actually need it?

7:08

[UTexasFight 9362]

I like the aggressive mindset.  But I don't like asking aces to go on short rest unless we're the ones facing elimination. 

Wut?I’m with you on Urquidy. I like him, but everything I’m talking about (assuming rainout) is full rest.

Greinke on Thursday

JV on Friday

That’s normal rest. 4 days between starts

 

Unless you’re going to go full Fondren on me in which case,

 

 

 

 

[TexArcher 37414]

Yeah, I realized after I typed it that you weren't saying everything I was responding to.  But I do keep hearing people say we should go for their throats and pitch Greinke, then JV, then Cole on short rest, and we'll deal with Game 7 if it gets there.  I don't agree with the last two parts of that all.

Assuming rainout, I'd still rather see Urquidy on Thurs.  If he's going to pitch in this series, and he probably is, I'd rather it be in a Game 4 than a Game 6.  If we win Game 4, throw Greinke in Game 5 and hold back JV and Cole for the Houston games.  If we lose Game 4, throw JV in 5, then it's Greinke and Cole for the Houston games.  I think this rotation give us a great chance of coming home up 3-2 forcing them to beat two really good pitchers in our building.

[TexArcher 37414]

But I also think there's a decent chance that our bats are about to go apeshit.  I don't think Tanaka will fare nearly as well seeing us for the second time in less a week.