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So I'll be around the in laws for a few days this 4th of July and I'm going to try and avoid politics, but if SCOTUS comes up, I'm simply going to ask if they would be ok with Biden drone striking Mar-a-Lago and taking out Trump?  Because it would be an official act right?

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46 minutes ago, CooterBrown said:

There was an article the other day that stated Thomas has received over $4M.

And he’s a guy who once complained about how Supreme Court justices get paid so little, maybe he should leave for a job in the private sector. 

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19 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

And he’s a guy who once complained about how Supreme Court justices get paid so little, maybe he should leave for a job in the private sector. 

I guess, technically, he does have a second job in the private sector.

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Assuming Barrett doesn’t change her mind in the post sod contention she expresses with the majority, that “stuff” wouldn’t play going forward, right?

She will be one of the four replaced.
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2 minutes ago, Nivek said:


She will be one of the four replaced.

She did her job by giving woman coverage to Dobbs. Bye bye now 

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And he’s a guy who once complained about how Supreme Court justices get paid so little, maybe he should leave for a job in the private sector. 

Haha, they wouldn’t pay him shit in the private sector. His only value is a decision for sale.
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23 minutes ago, Nivek said:


Haha, they wouldn’t pay him shit in the private sector. His only value is a decision for sale.

He could make a lot of money with "speaking engagements" that may or may not actually happen. Probably already does that anyways. 

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1 hour ago, Dutchrudder said:

He could make a lot of money with "speaking engagements" that may or may not actually happen. Probably already does that anyways. 

Those are the after the service "tip" money.

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23 hours ago, troph said:

islands aren't safe (hurricanes). Southern Europe is burning hot these days. and fascism is on the rise everywhere. Right now I think Portugal, Costa Rica (maybe even in the mountains), shit where else? Northern Europe maybe. South Pacific is hotAF.

Hell England might vote in Labour looks like they went thru their insane period early and are recovering

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18 minutes ago, Michael Knight said:

Hell England might vote in Labour looks like they went thru their insane period early and are recovering

They have the benefit of a multi-party system.  The MAGA nuts there vote Reform.  The Tories stayed pretty much Tory (country club Republican).   In our two party system, the Country Club Republican party just handed the reins over to our version of Reform, and went all-in on right wing moonbattery.

The UK is still a shitshow.  And we don't even have a hope of performing as well as they are.

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25 minutes ago, Michael Knight said:

Hell England might vote in Labour looks like they went thru their insane period early and are recovering

The Tories have been in power for 14 consecutive years before they are getting shellacked tomorrow.  So I guess you're saying we have to go through 3+ consecutive terms of MAGA?

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27 minutes ago, Js1 said:

The Tories have been in power for 14 consecutive years before they are getting shellacked tomorrow.  So I guess you're saying we have to go through 3+ consecutive terms of MAGA?

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I was suggesting we could all move to England

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Oh I'm out of Texas in March 2025.  Already got all the approvals to go back to Denver for work.  Dragging some friends along too. 

If we have to GTFO the states, Mexico City looks pretty good. 

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Just now, troph said:

what do you think is the chance of having to vacate the country? I actually see it as pretty unlikely?  yes, CO is our bug out state when the kids are done with HS. I'll get residency in CO before then if I absolutely have to.

I have no idea, tbh.  Will probably depend if America just goes full MAGA and gives Trump both houses or if there's some sort of sanity and a WH/Congress split. 

6 minutes ago, Michael Knight said:

I was suggesting we could all move to England

Isn't it extremely difficult to immigrate to the UK? 

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5 minutes ago, troph said:

what do you think is the chance of having to vacate the country? I actually see it as pretty unlikely?  yes, CO is our bug out state when the kids are done with HS. I'll get residency in CO before then if I absolutely have to.

See you in CO then.  First round on me. 

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9 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Isn't it extremely difficult to immigrate to the UK? 

Extremely, extremely difficult.  My sister married a Brit and they've spent three years trying to figure out how to get her residency and work permit over there.  I think if you go for an MBA or an advanced degree over there starting next year, you can't even bring your spouse.

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3 minutes ago, troph said:

deal, though you might have to come to the mountains, we wouldn't be in Denver.

Any reason to go to the mountains is fine. 

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My Mexican ancestors were all on this side of the Rio going back I think 4 generations. One of my grandmothers was born in Mexico but crossed when she was 3 years old and was documented as a US Citizen. I really wish there was a way to get Mexican citizenship just in case. My brother in laws mother was born in Mexico and he obtained dual citizenship several years ago. I’m pretty fucking jealous. My only escape plan is to move closer to my wife’s extended family in Connecticut, I’d like to be physically present there when the republic collapses and Texoma becomes a full independent theocracy.

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7 hours ago, Goofyboy said:

Yep - think Industrial Revolution safety record or The Jungle by Sinclair. No more medium rare steaks or processed meat for me. emoji2961.png

MAGA: Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fire?  Hold my beer!

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MAGA: Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fire?  Hold my beer!

It’s really crazy that so many of our regulations are written in blood, but the people who scream “too many regulations!” never understand that undoing them may spill their own blood.

Leopard, meet face example eleventy billion.
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6 hours ago, CooterBrown said:

There was an article the other day that stated Thomas has received over $4M.

 


‘reported’ 

 

Project 2025 also wants to add 4 justices if Trump wins 

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1 hour ago, troph said:

I can't see SCOTUS saying the constitution prohibits same sex marriage etc. I can't see SCOTUS saying trans people have no right to be alive.

They already said that.  They said that the President can take any action that is colorable within his core constitutional powers.  One of those is as commander in chief of the military.

As he has determined that the homogays and trans and brown people and democrats are a grave threat to national security, poisoning the blood of our country, which constitutes open warfare against real Americans, he will order the military to round all of those people up and execute them if they resist/argue.

Criminal consequences: NONE.

Impeachment conviction risk: NONE, unless the dems control 60 votes in the Senate, which will not happen when he imprisons/kills/otherwise strips the right to vote from all democratic voters.

Just read the script.  The most recent one that fits was written in German, but I'm sure you can find a good translation somewhere.

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1 hour ago, Keef said:

Extremely, extremely difficult.  My sister married a Brit and they've spent three years trying to figure out how to get her residency and work permit over there.  I think if you go for an MBA or an advanced degree over there starting next year, you can't even bring your spouse.

med school in the UK it is!

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14 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

They already said that.  They said that the President can take any action that is colorable within his core constitutional powers.  One of those is as commander in chief of the military.

As he has determined that the homogays and trans and brown people and democrats are a grave threat to national security, poisoning the blood of our country, which constitutes open warfare against real Americans, he will order the military to round all of those people up and execute them if they resist/argue.

Criminal consequences: NONE.

Impeachment conviction risk: NONE, unless the dems control 60 votes in the Senate, which will not happen when he imprisons/kills/otherwise strips the right to vote from all democratic voters.

Just read the script.  The most recent one that fits was written in German, but I'm sure you can find a good translation somewhere.

There's one in Chinese, there's one In Korean, there's many in Spanish, there's one in Cambodian, there's one in Vietnamese, there's several in Arabic...need I go on?

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3 minutes ago, Chad Fuck said:

There's one in Chinese, there's one In Korean, there's many in Spanish, there's one in Cambodian, there's one in Vietnamese, there's several in Arabic...need I go on?

Culturally, I think the German one is the best fit, but all contain recipes that can easily be adapted to our American taste for authoritarian brutality.  Bon appetit!

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2 hours ago, Michael Knight said:

I was suggesting we could all move to England

I'm going to the Cotswolds in September.  Might just stay there, depending on circumstances then.

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The SCOTUS opinion rubber stamping the Trump regime's "anti grooming" LGBTQ internment camps will be written by associate justice Chaya Raichik and it won't stop at any red state/blue state borders. 

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32 minutes ago, troph said:

Now I guess the MAGA POTUS could sign an executive order that trans people are a threat and should be exterminated and then we are all rounded up. Here I actually think immigrants and citizens of Hispanic descent are more at risk. I think Japanese camps during WWII are the example to be most concerned about and that was during a war and I think the only external war like threat MAGA POTUS can come up with is illegal immigration. So I think in that respect, trans people are "safer" than brown people.

Oh, and 100% this.  Remember, last time around, they gave it a shot at challenging the citizenship of US citizens born in border hospitals before a certain date.  Falling into that group?  My dad.  If you think they're not looking to do a full "beaner purge," you haven't been paying attention.

On the bright side, there's a fair chance they'll go so over-the-top that I (and any other hispanic US citzen) will have a good political asylum claim in multiple countries, so I got that going for me, which is nice.

34 minutes ago, troph said:

I do think as strange as this sounds, the Dobbs decision provides a way out and shows that SCOTUS acknowledges we have a two state system - federal and states, allowing therefore blue and red states. And in that sense, fleeing to a blue state can provide tremendous protection. 

Unless and until you cross the border into a red state, and are arrested and indefinitely detained for "being an aberration and crime against nature."  Or any number of other Gilead-type laws they'll pass.  Bottom line, if you live in a blue state, traveling to a red state will be traveling to a land in which you have no rights and no expectation of any protection by the rule of law.  In the future, if you are a blue state resident who has any vulnerability, traveling to a red state will be as foolhardy a venture as traveling to Putin's Russia.  There will be a confederation of states in which the "lesser" (non-white, non-fundamentalist christian types) have minimal rights and legal protections, including any people foolish enough to visit from blue states, and the blue state confederation, which will look a lot like the US we remembered from say, 20 years ago, give or take a few things (gay marriage will be legal).  Travelers will have all expected rights and protections when in blue states; they will have next to none in red states.

Gilead is real.  They have told us so.  We should believe them.

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4 hours ago, Michael Knight said:

Hell England might vote in Labour looks like they went thru their insane period early and are recovering

Good, can we get MI6 to meddle in our elections?

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ok we see it the same.  I think the risk are:
1. Red states are gone, huge risks.
2. Blue states are probably ok (SCOTUS can't outlaw us), but sweep of Congress/WH by MAGA makes it a risk at that time.
3. Violence anywhere is a risk (everything from Pulse style to civil war style (maga vs. others, not people vs. government).

There will be no Blue States. They will implement an electoral college type system like Texas wants to do.
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1 hour ago, troph said:

I think the likelihood of a traditional civil war is nil. I think the federal government is too strong to allow for a sustained insurrection or for any succession. I do think there can and probably will be more skirmishes between militia types and the government. I also think citizen on citizen violence is already here and it will increase. I think MAGA violence against LGBTQ and POC (black Americans and people of Hispanic decent) is coming. And in that sense, I do believe there is a high likelihood of a non-traditional civil war where people die at the hands of their neighbors.

One scenario I think you could see with a MAGA reshaping of the federal government (I'll use Colorado as an example, because there is a shit ton of MAGA crazy here in rural areas):  Colorado take steps to protect rights for its citizens that stand to be marginalized if Project 2025 happens.  The executive orders and federal law alluded to in Project 2025 are enacted that contradicts those state protections.  Rural MAGA militia types take it upon themselves to enforce the federal laws by breaking the state laws.  The state will step in to enforce their laws.  As the state law is applied to the militia types who deputized themselves to enforce federal laws, those vigilantes will appeal to Trump and MAGA to intercede and protect them.  If it ever gets to that point, I don't know what happens.  I guess it depends on how beneficent Trump is feeling that day.  I'm sure Steve Bannon will be around to remind him that Colorado tried to keep him off the ballot.

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Just now, troph said:

That to me falls in the civil violence category where no geographical location is safe.  We’ve now been to CO for the summer twice. I think we are narrowing in where we would chose to be and while not urban it seems relatively liberal. 

Yeah, there are spots that are rural and not crazy here in CO, and it usually aligns with affluence and education.  Just look at county voting maps, they tell you where you definitely don't want to be.

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Just now, troph said:

This map aligns with our decision making. there are parts of the mountains in CO that are as nutty as rural Texas. They are pretty easy to spot too. we are likely passing on Durango (though I think that’s the blue county south central?), Pagosa Springs, Gunnison, Salida, Buena Vista, Lake City…  

Chaffee county with Salida and Buena Vista would be as good a place as any outside of Denver, unless you can afford to live in Summit (Breckenridge), Eagle (Vail) or Dolores (Telluride) counties.  The light blue on the bottom left is La Plata county where Durango is.  The blue in the south central is Costilla county, and I'm not sure why it's so blue.  There is not much there, and I've driven through it, and it doesn't match what I see in other counties.  Poor, undereducated, white and rural is almost always a recipe for MAGA.



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