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Hutto’s mandatory mask ordinance requires face coverings for employees and customers at all businesses when social distancing isn’t feasible. The policy goes into effect on Wednesday, July 1.

Businesses must also implement a visible health and safety policy with the face covering requirement. Failure to implement the health and safety policy may result in a fine not to exceed $1,000 for each violation.

Taylor

The City of Taylor’s order will go into effect at midnight on Wednesday, July 1, and will continue through the month of July pending a change from Taylor Mayor Brandt Rydell.

All commercial businesses must require face coverings for employees and customers when six feet of social distancing isn’t possible. The City is also requiring businesses to post its safety policy inside the facility.

 

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Effective Tuesday at 12 a.m., face coverings must be worn at all times by persons over the age of two years old in public places within the City of Marble Falls.

Anyone with a medical condition preventing the wearing of a mask are exempt from the order. The requirement applies to employees, customers and clients of businesses within the City.

Over the age of two in public places?

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Panic buying at grocery stores is happening again. Be someone who doesn’t and respect your neighbors. Don’t be a selfish asshole. You don’t need 400 equivalent rolls of TP or 12 3-packs of Lysol wipes. Fuck off. 

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7 minutes ago, BradInATX said:

Travis County shutting down all parks for the weekend.

Gyms and churches still open for business.

Zach Galifianakis Reaction GIF

 

This is dumb. 

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1 minute ago, Covri said:

Panic buying at grocery stores is happening again. Be someone who doesn’t and respect your neighbors. Don’t be a selfish asshole. You don’t need 400 equivalent rolls of TP or 12 3-packs of Lysol wipes. Fuck off. 

How is panic buying still a thing?  We've been at this for 4 months?

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1 minute ago, Anastasis said:

How is panic buying still a thing?  We've been at this for 4 months?

Lots of selfish assholes in this state as demonstrated by our need to lock down again because people refuse to wear a mask. 

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1 hour ago, Homercles said:

Yeah we obviously shop at the same one (we live in Brushy), what day did you go?  I went Friday and there weren’t even any palates there just bare floor.  

Went Thursday - early afternoon.

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1 hour ago, Chewbacca said:

I'm not talking about the folks buying it when they need it.  I'm talking about the folks who buy it every time they see it on shelves, even though they already have a garage full at home.  Grocery store worker told me a couple months ago that (at least at their store) it was the old people who were buying it out.  Often making multiple trips in the same day to see if they can buy more because of the limits.

Store should quit selling prunes to those oldfarts.

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48 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

How is panic buying still a thing?  We've been at this for 4 months?

Our little neighborhood Randalls had a shit-ton of hand sanitizer, TP, and paper towels.  Like, the amount of hand sanitizer takes up the amount of space their normal TP/paper towel section does.

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So Nueces County new cases once again at 205. ICU up from 18 to 29. Hospitalizations up from 80 to 93.  I THINK this is a lag from not reporting those hospital/icu numbers yesterday. So it’s not quite as bad as it might look.

However we’ve been reporting new case numbers every day and it’s been steady around 200 for 6 days now. I’ve got a growing concern that this is being caused because we are at or very near our testing limits and not because we are “flat”.

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1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

Exceptions to Round Rock mask ordinance

  • When exercising or engaging in physical activity (i.e. the time you are exhaling with the most power behind each exhale)
  • When wearing a mask poses a greater mental risk (these are the fucking idiots that are buying the fake "exempt from wearing a mask" ID cards from the web)
  • When outside with a group of only members of a single household (because whole families NEVER contract the virus at the same time)

Wilco, keep doing Wilco

Edited by AUS-97HORN

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I’m in Colorado. Lots of TP here. Coming back this weekend. Should I do some Smokey and the Bandit type run in our rented minivan? 

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How is panic buying still a thing?  We've been at this for 4 months?
New to Austin?

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1 minute ago, gmr548 said:
2 hours ago, Anastasis said:
How is panic buying still a thing?  We've been at this for 4 months?

New to Austin?

Nope. But I am willing to entertain that the people who are are the problem. 

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8 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Nope. But I am willing to entertain that the people who are are the problem. 

We panic buy when a hurricane is bearing down on Houston.

Or when we might get ice on the roads.

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20 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

We panic buy when a hurricane is bearing down on Houston.

Or when we might get ice on the roads.

Imagine a 4 month hurricane or ice storm. Jesus. 

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A week ago: 181 people hospitalized in Austin MSA for covid

Today: 386

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2 hours ago, justhookit said:

So Nueces County new cases once again at 205. ICU up from 18 to 29. Hospitalizations up from 80 to 93.  I THINK this is a lag from not reporting those hospital/icu numbers yesterday. So it’s not quite as bad as it might look.

However we’ve been reporting new case numbers every day and it’s been steady around 200 for 6 days now. I’ve got a growing concern that this is being caused because we are at or very near our testing limits and not because we are “flat”.

So finally got to look at the new test numbers a little more closely. We will see 300 new cases at least once in the next 3 days. If we stick around 210 it means they can’t test enough or can’t process enough.

I’d much rather be seeing 150 one day and then 300 the next then back to 175 then 275, etc.

on the positive front, mask usage in Port A is great. A week ago we were at maybe 10% in the grocery store and pretty much 0% in the convenience stores. It’s now 95% in both, and the one person I did see go into Stripes without a mask pulled their shirt up over their face. No idea what’s going on in Corpus on that front.

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8 hours ago, StruggleBus said:

2-3 times what is being reported is a massive understatement. With asymptotic cases and people who don’t get tested combined, it’s probably closer to 8 or ten times what’s reported.

Even at 10 times that puts us under 10% of total population. I keep seeing things like this talked about and wonder how anyone thinks hey, this is a good thing..

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7 hours ago, Js1 said:

I mean were these People shitting at bars and restaurants before? 

Do you really want to know? But yes and also there’s that whole work thing. People really are shitting at home more often now. And then you have to factor in the female usage. The toilet paper thing becomes a little more understandable. 

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3 hours ago, AUS-97HORN said:

Wilco, keep doing Wilco

Ours here read that same way. I think all the counties basically copied it from Bexar.

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4 hours ago, justhookit said:

I’ve got a growing concern that this is being caused because we are at or very near our testing limits and not because we are “flat”.

Welp. I’m used to being proven wrong fairly quickly, but getting it right this fast is new to me. Also this is public testing, not the hospitals and doctor’s offices, but still. We’ve got a real issue down here.

"If you have already scheduled for a test with the Corpus Christi/Nueces County health district at Concrete Street amphitheater that is going to change," Zanoni said.  "You'll be getting a notice, but hopefully (testing will) be this week."

Zanoni said the city and county have requested additional materials from the state.

"Until they come in, we're down to a certain number of materials," Zanoni said. "We want to reserve that for some of these senior nursing homes and the state living center where significant outbreaks are going on right now."

 

Edited by justhookit
Yes, I occasionally read the CR.

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Posted (edited)

Just wanted to post 6 times in a row because I’m quite positive my previous record was 5.

i was looking again at testing numbers and it looks like they’ve added a 7 day average. I’ve said before multiple times that the way Nueces has been reporting test numbers is wonky, but this is nuts (and I think somewhat to slightly inaccurate)

SEVEN DAY TOTALS  NUMBER
 Testing Totals (last 7 Days) 3656
 Average Daily Tests (7-day average) 522
 Positive Cases 1378

Edit- Wtf. That better not be even remotely accurate. That’s 37% and since some of these tests are still the 2 to 5 day result tests, the true percentage is higher (we’ve been testing more people every day, so positive results are lagging). No wonder our overall positive percentage is climbing so fast.

numbers here https://www.cctexas.com/coronavirus

dashboard here https://corpus.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/fe742480193d4fff98f7af38c5104cfc

Am I misreading something here?

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And just for the fuck of it when I started this thread 9 days ago it was because of a concern that Nueces county had increased their total case count by 35% in one week. This last week? 186%.

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8 hours ago, AUS-97HORN said:

Wilco, keep doing Wilco

Well, mental midgets keep moving here from Austin & California. So there’s that consideration.

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10 hours ago, BradInATX said:

Travis County shutting down all parks for the weekend.

Gyms and churches still open for business.

Zach Galifianakis Reaction GIF

 

10 hours ago, Anastasis said:

This is dumb. 

It’s beyond dumb. But in fairness to our usually moronic city government, they can control one, but not the others.

Good call to shut down the parks ahead of another holiday weekend to avoid a repeat of Memorial Day weekend. But I’ll probably drive by the Bull Creek Greenbelt on Saturday and Sunday to see if the masses are paying attention and/or the City actually enforces this.

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3 minutes ago, South Austin said:

 

It’s beyond dumb. But in fairness to our usually moronic city government, they can control one, but not the others.

Good call to shut down the parks ahead of another holiday weekend to avoid a repeat of Memorial Day weekend. But I’ll probably drive by the Bull Creek Greenbelt on Saturday and Sunday to see if the masses are paying attention and/or the City actually enforces this.

 

The parks thing seems pretty silly to me. Even in a packed greenbelt or park, people aren't packed together less than a foot apart like they are in airplanes, church, and yes, even protests. They're outdoors in heat, sun, and wind. It just doesn't seem like a very high risk activity to me. And those people are just going to find some other place to go outside and drink with their friends. It'll just be someone's backyard. It's not solving anything at all. I think they're just throwing their hands up in the air and saying "we're not responsible for this and we don't want to deal with the Twitter blowback of a picture of 5,000 people at Pace Bend".

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From a crna friend at another houston surgical hospital:
 
“Apparently half of our cases today cancelled because they were Covid positive on screening, supposedly 20 cases

Would it be safe to assume at least half of those were asymptomatic? If they were sick would they actually think having elective surgery would be a good idea?

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9 minutes ago, BradInATX said:

 

The parks thing seems pretty silly to me. Even in a packed greenbelt or park, people aren't packed together less than a foot apart like they are in airplanes, church, and yes, even protests. They're outdoors in heat, sun, and wind. It just doesn't seem like a very high risk activity to me. And those people are just going to find some other place to go outside and drink with their friends. It'll just be someone's backyard. It's not solving anything at all. I think they're just throwing their hands up in the air and saying "we're not responsible for this and we don't want to deal with the Twitter blowback of a picture of 5,000 people at Pace Bend".

It makes some sense in parks that have public restrooms, but they could always just lock the restrooms. From what we have seen at the beach, people are maintaining their distance from other groups, but you still have some pretty large groups getting together and hanging out. However, to your point if they want to get together, they are going to get together somewhere.

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2 minutes ago, huge said:


Would it be safe to assume at least half of those were asymptomatic? If they were sick would they actually think having elective surgery would be a good idea?

Almost all of our presurgical positives are asymptomatic. We aren’t seeing those numbers but definitely some everyday.

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18 minutes ago, South Austin said:

to see if the masses are paying attention

No.

19 minutes ago, South Austin said:

and/or the City actually enforces this.

No!

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18 minutes ago, South Austin said:

It’s beyond dumb. But in fairness to our usually moronic city government, they can control one, but not the others.

Good call to shut down the parks ahead of another holiday weekend to avoid a repeat of Memorial Day weekend. But I’ll probably drive by the Bull Creek Greenbelt on Saturday and Sunday to see if the masses are paying attention and/or the City actually enforces this.

I don’t think it’s a good call. If any reasonable fraction of the people that would have hit the park otherwise go eat in a restaurant then the city has made the situation (at least moderately) worse for no good reason.

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12 minutes ago, South Austin said:

 

It’s beyond dumb. But in fairness to our usually moronic city government, they can control one, but not the others.

Good call to shut down the parks ahead of another holiday weekend to avoid a repeat of Memorial Day weekend. But I’ll probably drive by the Bull Creek Greenbelt on Saturday and Sunday to see if the masses are paying attention and/or the City actually enforces this.

 

9 minutes ago, BradInATX said:

 

The parks thing seems pretty silly to me. Even in a packed greenbelt or park, people aren't packed together less than a foot apart like they are in airplanes, church, and yes, even protests. They're outdoors in heat, sun, and wind. It just doesn't seem like a very high risk activity to me. And those people are just going to find some other place to go outside and drink with their friends. It'll just be someone's backyard. It's not solving anything at all. I think they're just throwing their hands up in the air and saying "we're not responsible for this and we don't want to deal with the Twitter blow back of a picture of 5,000 people at Pace Bend".

 

I've been hitting up the parks with the kids fairly frequently.  We did a few last week, one city park, one Travis County the other an LCRA park. The Travis County parks have been capping, the LCRA and city parks have not.  We like to be able to get outdoors and the kids can do their thing, and we are all distanced.  I have seen some shit that did not make me very happy, but that was uniformly large (10+) groups of unrelated teenagers to early 20s doing their thing. And they are going to do their thing whether it is at the park or in someone's backyard or house. The vast majority I have seen are families with young kids, or guys just fishing solo.  If you are going to shut the TC parks down, they need to coordinate with LCRA and the city parks as well, because all you are going to do is push a bunch of people into the other parks that have not restricted. I would just prefer that they devote some resources to patrolling the park and enforcing distancing requirements.   

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11 minutes ago, BradInATX said:

The parks thing seems pretty silly to me. Even in a packed greenbelt or park, people aren't packed together less than a foot apart like they are in airplanes, church, and yes, even protests. They're outdoors in heat, sun, and wind. It just doesn't seem like a very high risk activity to me. And those people are just going to find some other place to go outside and drink with their friends. It'll just be someone's backyard. It's not solving anything at all. I think they're just throwing their hands up in the air and saying "we're not responsible for this and we don't want to deal with the Twitter blowback of a picture of 5,000 people at Pace Bend".

Over Memorial Day I saw crowds at Bull Creek all over each other. Many less than a foot apart. Maybe lower risk than indoor activity, but I don’t think anyone would call that “safe.”

And sure, those folks will still find another place to gather. And if it’s indoors, they’re probably the kind just as likely to do so even without a park ban. At least the City is doing something within its control in an attempt to curtail the spike. It’s better than nothing, unless you were just dying to cook hot dogs at Zilker this Saturday. And I’m one of the last guys to give the City credit for its decision-making.

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I’ll be down in Bolivar this week.

It’s going to be a shit show and I can only hope to keep the unwashed masses* 6 feet away.

*Rednecks

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My buddy at willowbrook Methodist texted me this-

“There are patients in our ED who have been there for 5-6 days...I’m assuming on a vent and waiting for an ICU bed but dunno now. At least 40-50 ppl in ED w confirmed covid “

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47 minutes ago, huge said:

I’ll be down in Bolivar this week.

It’s going to be a shit show and I can only hope to keep the unwashed masses* 6 feet away.

*Rednecks

EEB51-DE7-BA68-41-E0-BAA9-0466-F318-AD9-

It’s all gravy, baby

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56 minutes ago, huge said:

I’ll be down in Bolivar this week.

It’s going to be a shit show and I can only hope to keep the unwashed masses* 6 feet away.

*Rednecks

But seriously, heading to Galveston after 4th of July.  Hope beaches are still open. 
 

2 hours ago, GreenspointTexas said:

From a crna friend at another houston surgical hospital:

 

“Apparently half of our cases today cancelled because they were Covid positive on screening, supposedly 20 cases 😳

 

1 hour ago, Newdoc said:

Almost all of our presurgical positives are asymptomatic. We aren’t seeing those numbers but definitely some everyday.

This is interesting. In SA we’ve had almost no preop positives at my facilities. Hundreds of tests. It kind of backs up the theory here in SA that it’s younger and poorer population that doesn’t typically seek health care that is getting it. 

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18 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

But seriously, heading to Galveston after 4th of July.  Hope beaches are still open. 

If they aren't open in Galveston just head across the ferry.  Bolivar won't close unless something drastic happens.

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23 minutes ago, huge said:

If they aren't open in Galveston just head across the ferry.  Bolivar won't close unless something drastic happens.

depends how the trees hold up...

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Arizona closed bars, movie theaters, gyms and water parks. 
 

Mayor Adler said yesterday he wants to do a 35 day shutdown followed by strict mask enforcement. 
 

I wish they’d make the decision already so people can figure out next steps financially and know what to plan for. And that doesn’t mean making a TP heb run like Austin seems to be doing...

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A 35 day shutdown of what? Just make masks mandatory. I understand shutting gyms and movie theaters.

I don’t think we need a complete shutdown. We are stuck with this for a while can’t completely shut down things again. LA has been locked down and they are seeing another spike right now

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