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4 hours ago, HOOKEM4 said:

You also didn't try to haggle on the price it seems. They asked me to leave over a $200 trailer brake controller I wanted them to throw in. Of course that was after they pulled the ole bait and switch on me. You do you, I will never walk into any of their shops again.

I was hoping this story would be better.  Something like they refused you warranty service, so you decided to drive thru their showroom.  

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We bought the new Ram at MH on Katy Fwy.  Fuck those guys and their $3000 add-on Texas Protection Package that's worth about $200 that isn't displayed on the website information.  Then the F&I guy tried to bump the price $2500 when we told them we wanted to use our financing.  My wife, who had been telling me to calm down all morning during negotiations, stood up and yelled out That's Bullshit! loud enough that 2 other guys and the sales manager showed up in the F&I monsters office from down the hall.  We finally came to an agreement but still fuck those guys.  I don't think my truck will cross the parking lot there again.

 

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56 minutes ago, texhorn said:

What’s the shaggy consensus on Leif Johnson Ford service?

Koenig lane service department was a nightmare the one time I used them. Lots of confused stupid assholes.

The quick service place off of ben white is good for the cheap oil changes if you bought your truck from them.

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20 minutes ago, TXLNGHRN10 said:

They did warranty work on my F150. Was pretty painless for me. Everybody was pretty nice.

 

22 hours ago, texhorn said:

What’s the shaggy consensus on Leif Johnson Ford service?

That's where I bought mine, so next time I'll probably take it there, even though it's way less convenient than Covert.

 

 

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So, had a nice chat over a beer tonight with a F150 owner.  His is probably a '17 or '18.  Says it's already been in for timing belt twice?  Is that a known issue?

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Best advice I've got on an F150 is buy used from private seller and keep a trusted, competent mechanic in your back pocket who knows Ford but has zero affiliation with them or a dealership.  Never, ever go to a dealership under any circumstances.  Ever.

I'm on #4 (including my old Bronco) and have been rewarded greatly by this approach.

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12 hours ago, Gil Bang said:

So, had a nice chat over a beer tonight with a F150 owner.  His is probably a '17 or '18.  Says it's already been in for timing belt twice?  Is that a known issue?

It is a known issue on the 3.5’s.

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1 minute ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Why they don’t all have a timing chain I’ll never know. Nissan’s 3.5 had (has?) a chain and it never broke. 

Weight, I guess.   So many marginal things like that in the name of weight/fuel economy.  I suppose a belt is a tad cheaper too.

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On 9/3/2020 at 10:10 AM, mapplewhite132 said:

Anyone had any problems with the 10 speed transmission from Ford/GM? I have it in my F150 and havent really had any issues other than some jerky shifts in traffic. My wife has an expedition with the 10 speed and it started making a clunk noise at 6K miles when you shift into or out of 4th gear. It's at Covert ford in Austin and holy shit are these guys incompetent. I'm worried the expedition might just be a lemon. 

quick update - covert performed some ford service bulletin and the noise has gone away for now. I'm slightly gruntled at this point. 

I've bought 3 new fords from mac haik in houston and had a good experience each time. They will fuck you big time if you show up without doing your homework though. I got 25% off on a new f150, then 20% off a new F150 an 20% off a new expedition. Basically just paid internet price without haggling much. 

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14 hours ago, Gil Bang said:

So, had a nice chat over a beer tonight with a F150 owner.  His is probably a '17 or '18.  Says it's already been in for timing belt twice?  Is that a known issue?

It appears there is an issue with the cam phasers on the Eco boost. They change out the timing chain during that process
That's what I went in for. Drove up with no appointment, told the guy about the rattle noise on cold start, and he was yup cam phasers, we'll get you loaner and take care of it.

Week later all fixed up.

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20 minutes ago, TXLNGHRN10 said:

It appears there is an issue with the cam phasers on the Eco boost. They change out the timing chain during that process
That's what I went in for. Drove up with no appointment, told the guy about the rattle noise on cold start, and he was yup cam phasers, we'll get you loaner and take care of it.

Week later all fixed up.

We’re going to take our Expedition in, it has the same issue. 

Ordered another Fox 2.0 kit for the new F150 and like everything else out there it is backordered with no timeline for delivery. 

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Was talking to my mechanic about the new Bronco coming out.  Said the biggest problem with the Ecoboost (no matter the displacement, apparently) is that the water pump is located inside the engine.  When it comes time to replace the pump at 100K or so, you're looking at a major job, i.e., 4 figures, to get inside the engine to replace the pump.  Even worse is if the pump fails and starts leaking coolant into the oil.  You likely won't know it's happening until after coolant is already in your oil and your engine is fucked.  Dude is raining on my parade in terms of being excited about snagging a Bronco when they start rolling out sometime next year.  Anyone else heard similar things?     

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2 hours ago, Anton Chigurh said:

To be clear, the 3.5 has a timing chain. Not a belt. I don’t think there are many (any?) NA market cars with a belt these days.

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Those long chain guides make me nervous.

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On 9/11/2020 at 6:15 PM, Carl Spackler said:

Was talking to my mechanic about the new Bronco coming out.  Said the biggest problem with the Ecoboost (no matter the displacement, apparently) is that the water pump is located inside the engine.  When it comes time to replace the pump at 100K or so, you're looking at a major job, i.e., 4 figures, to get inside the engine to replace the pump.  Even worse is if the pump fails and starts leaking coolant into the oil.  You likely won't know it's happening until after coolant is already in your oil and your engine is fucked.  Dude is raining on my parade in terms of being excited about snagging a Bronco when they start rolling out sometime next year.  Anyone else heard similar things?     

Would not surprise me one bit for Ford to do that kinds shit.

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On 9/11/2020 at 6:15 PM, Carl Spackler said:

Was talking to my mechanic about the new Bronco coming out.  Said the biggest problem with the Ecoboost (no matter the displacement, apparently) is that the water pump is located inside the engine.  When it comes time to replace the pump at 100K or so, you're looking at a major job, i.e., 4 figures, to get inside the engine to replace the pump.  Even worse is if the pump fails and starts leaking coolant into the oil.  You likely won't know it's happening until after coolant is already in your oil and your engine is fucked.  Dude is raining on my parade in terms of being excited about snagging a Bronco when they start rolling out sometime next year.  Anyone else heard similar things?     

There was a lawsuit brought against Ford for this. Affected the Edge and Flex I believe. Can’t see that standing up long in court

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On 9/11/2020 at 6:15 PM, Carl Spackler said:

Was talking to my mechanic about the new Bronco coming out.  Said the biggest problem with the Ecoboost (no matter the displacement, apparently) is that the water pump is located inside the engine.  When it comes time to replace the pump at 100K or so, you're looking at a major job, i.e., 4 figures, to get inside the engine to replace the pump.  Even worse is if the pump fails and starts leaking coolant into the oil.  You likely won't know it's happening until after coolant is already in your oil and your engine is fucked.  Dude is raining on my parade in terms of being excited about snagging a Bronco when they start rolling out sometime next year.  Anyone else heard similar things?     

I drove my eco boost to 200k, that pump never had to be replaced 

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End of summer so figure I’d finally get my window tint upgrade. Executive on Gessner in Hou, place does good work 

amp steps coming soon, just need to schedule it

 

im waivering hard on just doing the leave kit. 

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2 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

I drove my eco boost to 200k, that pump never had to be replaced 

Good to know.  I didn't get many details when I talked to my mechanic last week because he was busy dealing with other shit at the time, but the next time I get a chance, I'll press him for more details, e.g., whether he personally sees many Ecoboosts having issues with water pumps, whether he tends to see water pump issues in certain displacements more than others, etc.

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5 hours ago, Revolution512 said:

There was a lawsuit brought against Ford for this. Affected the Edge and Flex I believe. Can’t see that standing up long in court

Yeah, once I started doing a little research, I found out about the class action.  I think it dealt solely with the Duratec V6 engine, but it sounds like the water pump placement in that engine is similar to the Ecoboost. 

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Actually, it seems to be a pain in the ass for most of them (ecoboosts), but it's the V6, shown above, that puts the water pump behind the timing cover.  Christ.

 

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On 9/14/2020 at 12:43 PM, TwiceHorn said:

Actually, it seems to be a pain in the ass for most of them (ecoboosts), but it's the V6, shown above, that puts the water pump behind the timing cover.  Christ.

 

My old POS honda accord was that way.  IIRC, the water pump was driven by the timing belt. 

 

It was a horrible car.

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ordered my AMP steps today, i'll get them installed in the next couple of weeks

i'm leaning HARD on the leveling kit. my truck doesn't see any offroad and I want the level'd look

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Starter shit out on the 07 Ram 2500 3 days ago. Common problem on the Cummins with the contacts. Summit finally delivered the new one and while it wasn't the easiest starter change why does it have to weigh 20+lbs...damn.

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22 hours ago, Mother mopar said:

Starter shit out on the 07 Ram 2500 3 days ago. Common problem on the Cummins with the contacts. Summit finally delivered the new one and while it wasn't the easiest starter change why does it have to weigh 20+lbs...damn.

20 lbs for a starter? Fuckit, send it. /dodge engineers.

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