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1 minute ago, Captainant said:

This is the essence of my feelings as well. The (D)'s have been so far up their ass about policy for decades that they never stopped to realize that it's ALL over the average voter's head. They ain't gonna win elections by boring everyone to death and telling them to Pokemon Go to the polls!

The democratic party leadership is so atrophied and calcified in place, it needs to be fucking cleaned out. None of these fucksticks have done anything worth a shit since trump got elected, and have been defecting in small numbers to enable his policy advances.

If I had to boil it down to three commandments:

  1. No more gerontocracy
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      Anyone who has a 2% chance or higher of dying from natural causes or breaking a hip needs to fuck off.

  2. Take full advantage of every opportunity at all times
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      If the conservatives did it, or would do it if given the opportunity, you must do it to them if given the opportunity to the highest possible degree and as broadly as possible.

      When in doubt, err on the side of consolidating as much power as possible and maximizing the partisan impact of your actions.

      No more "reaching across the aisle"

      No more pretending that there's horse trading going on or that any favors will be reciprocated

  3. Class First in all aspects of the game
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      Class First campaigning, which means

      • clear signaling to the working class,
      • listening to the working class and identifying their struggles,
      • pivoting every conversation away from race, religious, and party divisions and towards class by reframing the issue as a symptom of something deeper
      • harnessing "Us against Them" themes (which worked for Trump) to depict a large and popular "Us" (working class) and a smaller, unpopular "Them" (the 1%)

      Class First platform, which means

      • Big promises to the working class that a 7 Year Old could understand
      • Anticipating common objections with short answers

      Class First governing, which means

      • activating the people who put you in office when their help is needed to overcome obstacles that prevent you from delivering your Big promises
      • strictly enforcing laws that were meant to regulate the 1% and to help the working class
      • relaxing enforcement of laws that were meant to inhibit the working class or to benefit the 1%
      • no more enabling fascism
      • amnesty and pardons for working class, nonviolent, non-repeat offenders
      • prosecutions of legitimate public safety threats
      • no more means testing for the programs people need
      • return tax policy to how it was before Reagan

       

       

There's obviously more but I think you'd see dramatic improvement just with those three commandments being obeyed. They need to get serious about getting power, retaining power, and using power in the fleeting moments when they actually wield it. They need to get serious about purging the fucking losers and cowards who taught them how to get walked all over, pushed around, and tricked. It's time we had a party that used GOP tactics to do beneficial things for the people. Voters will reward that, and they do not and will never again reward stupid shit like sportsmanship and civility.

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Posted
14 hours ago, Brian Fantana said:

This is the part that gets me and also exposes every liberal that concern trolls about this shit for the racist ideals they pretend they don't hold.

Like, the dude literally is an African-American. What else is he supposed to call himself? Is there a box for Ugandan-American?

I don't even know what this is supposed to mean. This is true for every political candidate who ever walked the Earth.

Hmm. Well.  It’s deeply ironic that you imply I’m masking “racist ideals” when you’re defending an attempt to do a stolen valor on a preferential admission opportunity that existed to mitigate the effects of black African slavery.  
Maybe you shouldn’t get so emotionally invested in the Mayor’s race of a city where you don’t pay rent. 

1 hour ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Cuomo is the definition of what is wrong with democratic party.

Agreed, I have no idea what this guy is talking about. It’s factual that Cuomo is a skilled operator and it’s also factual that he sucks and has disqualified himself.

22 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

If I had to boil it down to three commandments:

  1. No more gerontocracy
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      Anyone who has a 2% chance or higher of dying from natural causes or breaking a hip needs to fuck off.

  2. Take full advantage of every opportunity at all times
    •   Hide contents

      If the conservatives did it, or would do it if given the opportunity, you must do it to them if given the opportunity to the highest possible degree and as broadly as possible.

      When in doubt, err on the side of consolidating as much power as possible and maximizing the partisan impact of your actions.

      No more "reaching across the aisle"

      No more pretending that there's horse trading going on or that any favors will be reciprocated

  3. Class First in all aspects of the game
    •   Hide contents

      Class First campaigning, which means

      • clear signaling to the working class,
      • listening to the working class and identifying their struggles,
      • pivoting every conversation away from race, religious, and party divisions and towards class by reframing the issue as a symptom of something deeper
      • harnessing "Us against Them" themes (which worked for Trump) to depict a large and popular "Us" (working class) and a smaller, unpopular "Them" (the 1%)

      Class First platform, which means

      • Big promises to the working class that a 7 Year Old could understand
      • Anticipating common objections with short answers

      Class First governing, which means

      • activating the people who put you in office when their help is needed to overcome obstacles that prevent you from delivering your Big promises
      • strictly enforcing laws that were meant to regulate the 1% and to help the working class
      • relaxing enforcement of laws that were meant to inhibit the working class or to benefit the 1%
      • no more enabling fascism
      • amnesty and pardons for working class, nonviolent, non-repeat offenders
      • prosecutions of legitimate public safety threats
      • no more means testing for the programs people need
      • return tax policy to how it was before Reagan

       

       

There's obviously more but I think you'd see dramatic improvement just with those three commandments being obeyed. They need to get serious about getting power, retaining power, and using power in the fleeting moments when they actually wield it. They need to get serious about purging the fucking losers and cowards who taught them how to get walked all over, pushed around, and tricked. It's time we had a party that used GOP tactics to do beneficial things for the people. Voters will reward that, and they do not and will never again reward stupid shit like sportsmanship and civility.

This is a well-thought out post, particularly #3. 

Posted
51 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Hmm. Well.  It’s deeply ironic that you imply I’m masking “racist ideals” when you’re defending an attempt to do a stolen valor on a preferential admission opportunity that existed to mitigate the effects of black African slavery.  
Maybe you shouldn’t get so emotionally invested in the Mayor’s race of a city where you don’t pay rent. 

Agreed, I have no idea what this guy is talking about. It’s factual that Cuomo is a skilled operator and it’s also factual that he sucks and has disqualified himself.

This is a well-thought out post, particularly #3. 

You'll notice that's precisely the playbook Zohran used, with overwhelming success. Fuck the naysayers.

Posted
1 hour ago, chainsaw said:

If I had to boil it down to three commandments:

  1. No more gerontocracy
    •   Hide contents

      Anyone who has a 2% chance or higher of dying from natural causes or breaking a hip needs to fuck off.

  2. Take full advantage of every opportunity at all times
    •   Hide contents

      If the conservatives did it, or would do it if given the opportunity, you must do it to them if given the opportunity to the highest possible degree and as broadly as possible.

      When in doubt, err on the side of consolidating as much power as possible and maximizing the partisan impact of your actions.

      No more "reaching across the aisle"

      No more pretending that there's horse trading going on or that any favors will be reciprocated

  3. Class First in all aspects of the game
    •   Hide contents

      Class First campaigning, which means

      • clear signaling to the working class,
      • listening to the working class and identifying their struggles,
      • pivoting every conversation away from race, religious, and party divisions and towards class by reframing the issue as a symptom of something deeper
      • harnessing "Us against Them" themes (which worked for Trump) to depict a large and popular "Us" (working class) and a smaller, unpopular "Them" (the 1%)

      Class First platform, which means

      • Big promises to the working class that a 7 Year Old could understand
      • Anticipating common objections with short answers

      Class First governing, which means

      • activating the people who put you in office when their help is needed to overcome obstacles that prevent you from delivering your Big promises
      • strictly enforcing laws that were meant to regulate the 1% and to help the working class
      • relaxing enforcement of laws that were meant to inhibit the working class or to benefit the 1%
      • no more enabling fascism
      • amnesty and pardons for working class, nonviolent, non-repeat offenders
      • prosecutions of legitimate public safety threats
      • no more means testing for the programs people need
      • return tax policy to how it was before Reagan

       

       

There's obviously more but I think you'd see dramatic improvement just with those three commandments being obeyed. They need to get serious about getting power, retaining power, and using power in the fleeting moments when they actually wield it. They need to get serious about purging the fucking losers and cowards who taught them how to get walked all over, pushed around, and tricked. It's time we had a party that used GOP tactics to do beneficial things for the people. Voters will reward that, and they do not and will never again reward stupid shit like sportsmanship and civility.

I'm in full agreement with 3.  Call out the oligarchs and threaten them with guillotines.

Posted
1 hour ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Hmm. Well.  It’s deeply ironic that you imply I’m masking “racist ideals” when you’re defending an attempt to do a stolen valor on a preferential admission opportunity that existed to mitigate the effects of black African slavery.  

You literally are being nakedly racist and deliberately obtuse when you say shit like this. This is the worst hill to die on.

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He literally wrote in "Uganda" to make it clear why he was checking the African American box. Bozo is assuming 17/18 year old Mamdami and his family understood American racial classifications just like he does and that's not a reasonable assumption to make.  

I tend to think he's not going to be a good mayor, but I think that because I think it's not really possible to be a GOOD mayor, particularly not in NYC. But this is a ridiculous criticism of him, and as for the critique that he's mostly liked by the laptop class, look at this shit:

How often do you see a Dem politician who looks like they like and care about the people they're running to represent? Even if he ends up struggling as mayor, this shows an understanding of how to connect with voters that most Dem candidates simply do not have.  All the policy knowledge in the world is useless if you can't get people to like you.

 

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41 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

You'll notice that's precisely the playbook Zohran used, with overwhelming success. Fuck the naysayers.

My criticism of Zohran is 100% about his approach to housing affordability. His campaign was fantastic. 

28 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

You literally are being nakedly racist and deliberately obtuse when you say shit like this. This is the worst hill to die on.

There there

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Posted
7 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

My criticism of Zohran is 100% about his approach to housing affordability. His campaign was fantastic. 

Dems cannibalize viable candidate over policy disagreement that general voters won't understand; news at 11!

Shit nobody gets their exact policy implemented, but it's at least an indicator of what they think is important. Dems have been selling out in primaries for the boring wonks and then get smoked by people who are interesting and can actually speak like people

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2 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

He literally wrote in "Uganda" to make it clear why he was checking the African American box. Bozo is assuming 17/18 year old Mamdami and his family understood American racial classifications just like he does and that's not a reasonable assumption to make.  

A friend of mine who is a blond, white Afrikaaner and had family involved in the movement to end apartheid before coming to the States would get extremely offended when people suggested that he do that very thing because he thought it would be participating in colonialism. I think you’re unrealistic about what immigrants know. 
 

10 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

How often do you see a Dem politician who looks like they like and care about the people they're running to represent? Even if he ends up struggling as mayor, this shows an understanding of how to connect with voters that most Dem candidates simply do not have. 

Yikes. Pretty Mamdani does not look lile the vast majority of those who he would represent or will vote for him. But what’s fascinating to me is that this obsessive interest in racial identity is 180 degrees from his actual campaign and what @chainsaw was saying and what he actually did. 

 

14 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

All the policy knowledge in the world is useless if you can't get people to like you.

Agreed on this, in any case.

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5 minutes ago, Captainant said:

Dems cannibalize viable candidate over policy disagreement that general voters won't understand; news at 11!

Shit nobody gets their exact policy implemented, but it's at least an indicator of what they think is important.

Well I’m not a Democrat but I do consider myself a cobelligerent. That said, he doesn’t have to implement it. That what I said earlier - Mamdani’s “policy” position on housing it just the same old white baby boomer orthodoxy that has been the default setting in big cities for 30 years. Welcome to a time called right now!
In any case I agree that policy doesn’t matter in terms of winning and losing. 

2 minutes ago, safe sex said:

Just win, baby

Amen sister, Amen.

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Posted
38 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Yikes. Pretty Mamdani does not look lile the vast majority of those who he would represent or will vote for him.

That's not what I said. I said he looks like he likes and cares about New Yorkers.

Posted
4 hours ago, Captainant said:

This is the essence of my feelings as well. The (D)'s have been so far up their ass about policy for decades that they never stopped to realize that it's ALL over the average voter's head. They ain't gonna win elections by boring everyone to death and telling them to Pokemon Go to the polls!

The democratic party leadership is so atrophied and calcified in place, it needs to be fucking cleaned out. None of these fucksticks have done anything worth a shit since trump got elected, and have been defecting in small numbers to enable his policy advances.

Makes me think they idolize Bill Clinton because he was such a policy wonk.

But that is not why he got elected.  Nor Obama

Posted
35 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

That's not what I said. I said he looks like he likes and cares about New Yorkers.

I wonder why Bozo is so fixated on what he looks like. I mean, I don't really wonder but you know what I mean.

Posted
1 hour ago, wildcat09 said:

He literally wrote in "Uganda" to make it clear why he was checking the African American box. Bozo is assuming 17/18 year old Mamdami and his family understood American racial classifications just like he does and that's not a reasonable assumption to make.  

I tend to think he's not going to be a good mayor, but I think that because I think it's not really possible to be a GOOD mayor, particularly not in NYC. But this is a ridiculous criticism of him, and as for the critique that he's mostly liked by the laptop class, look at this shit:

How often do you see a Dem politician who looks like they like and care about the people they're running to represent? Even if he ends up struggling as mayor, this shows an understanding of how to connect with voters that most Dem candidates simply do not have.  All the policy knowledge in the world is useless if you can't get people to like you.

 

Sorry man, I can’t believe paragraph one on this. Whatever else you think, Mandami comes from an extremely privileged and sophisticated family and went to an elite private grammar school in Morningside Heights.  His dad is an academic and professor at Columbia in post-colonial studies. Of all the things in the world the family knew, it was college applications and admissions process and American racial politics. They paid tens of thousands of dollars for a guidance counselor to help them do it! 
 

And that should be ok, it just isn’t a good look to be head in the sand about someone looking to use an affirmative action program that is supposed to be a good thing.  That is exactly why he ticked the box. 



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