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Posted
4 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

So, unnecessary grandstanding by House Rules Committee.

You really have to wonder why they decided to have that vote, because A) it provides fodder to those that want it released and believe there is a cover-up, and B) it's drawing more attention to said files being covered up.

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Posted (edited)
6 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Assuming the files are criminal in nature, ie evidence seized using search warrants, pursuant to grand jury subpoena and other criminal processes, they would be in the sole control of the DOJ.

HoR ain't got nothin to do with it unless they somehow obtained copies, which a norm-following DOJ would resist for the same reason it doesn't make such files publicly available.

So, unnecessary grandstanding by House Rules Committee.

When an entire party campaigned (and won) saying they were going to expose pedophiles from the other side and now are happy to pretend it didn't happen, we are far outside the "norm." Grandstanding can only be met with grandstanding. The party in power has officially voted in support of protecting pedophiles. It doesn't mean anything to that base but at least it's officially on record.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Thetexashammer said:

The real question is not why isn't the list being released. It's why aren't they charging the criminals?

Maxwell was charged and is now in prison for sex trafficking. Strangely, nobody knows where the sex got trafficked. It's not important. The sex was probably trafficked to Whitey Bulger or into space. One of those is dead and the other is really far away. So, it's fine now. It's done. You sound very unpatriotic for inquiring about this. 

Posted
2 hours ago, 'stache said:

When an entire party campaigned (and won) saying they were going to expose pedophiles from the other side and now are happy to pretend it didn't happen, we are far outside the "norm." Grandstanding can only be met with grandstanding. The party in power has officially voted in support of protecting pedophiles. It doesn't mean anything to that base but at least it's officially on record.

Definitely a weird grandstand.  Another total debasement to the orange god.

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Posted (edited)
28 minutes ago, Thetexashammer said:

The real question is not why isn't the list being released. It's why aren't they charging the criminals?

Because allies don't get prosecuted by this administration, especially when they're IN the administration.

If Trumpco thought for a second they could pull together some half-ass indictment against Bill Clinton or another Dem on this without the evidence blowing up in his/their face, they'd have done so on day one.

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Posted
32 minutes ago, Thetexashammer said:

The real question is not why isn't the list being released. It's why aren't they charging the criminals?

There are no criminals because the list was written by Obama and Hillary.  Any more stupid questions?

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Posted
25 minutes ago, Chopper said:

Bro, he knows they are

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I swear the DOJ and FBI just released a statement that there was no list. Yes, I’m sure of it

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The Justice Department and the FBI have found no evidence that disgraced financier and convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epsteinhad a "client list" or that he blackmailed prominent associates.

https://www.npr.org/2025/07/07/g-s1-76367/doj-jeffrey-epstein-memo
 

so weird. How can there be no list but also that the list was fabricated by two different democratic administrations between 2008-2016 and 2020-2024. Never mind that he died in prison in 2019. Probably best not to worry too much about who was president then or anything 

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Posted
2 hours ago, Incredulity said:

"Republicans just blocked release of Epstein files" 

 

Very, very newsy.

You absolutely understand why this is newsworthy. The House vote was meaningless to what the DoJ would be required. It looked more like a loyalty test. The Man Who Wears Makeup just got a wet turd slung into his face and wants everyone back on the reservation. The best they could do is a gesture of solidarity. 

The Orange, Butterscotched Quaffed One, and a huge bulk of his cabinet, have been sqwawking about transparency over this single issue for two years. It was basically the cornerstone of the entirety of the Vice President's campaign talking points. Now an abrupt change of priority. Nothing to see here. You're pretending this is a non story, for political reasons, while you squeal about politics being discussed in the DT. You understand that this is foul. But you're here to insist that you aren't acknowledging it while you acknowledge it. You look silly. 

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Posted
3 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:

I swear the DOJ and FBI just released a statement that there was no list. Yes, I’m sure of it

https://www.npr.org/2025/07/07/g-s1-76367/doj-jeffrey-epstein-memo
 

so weird. How can there be no list but also that the list was fabricated by two different democratic administrations between 2008-2016 and 2020-2024. Never mind that he died in prison in 2019. Probably best not to worry too much about who was president then or anything 

Did the news that the metadata show there's 3 additional minutes missing from the video of Epstein's cell make it over here? Siap. 

 

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Posted
25 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Because allies don't get prosecuted by this administration, especially when they're IN the administration.

If Trumpco thought for a second they could pull together some half-ass indictment against Bill Clinton or another Dem on this without the evidence blowing up in his/their face, they'd have done so on day one.

Outside of the Epstein files, who is being protected? And who in the administration is being protected?

Posted
1 minute ago, Thetexashammer said:

Outside of the Epstein files, who is being protected? And who in the administration is being protected?

This is our concern, dude.

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Posted (edited)
1 minute ago, Chooky said:

This is our concern, dude.

It is extremely unlikely to the point of impossibility that Biden's proxies had dirt on Trump and didn't release it.

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Posted (edited)
3 minutes ago, Thetexashammer said:

It is extremely unlikely to the point of impossibility that Biden's proxies had dirt on Trump and didn't release it.

Well, it'd be nice to know, wouldn't it? Who could make that happen right now? 

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Posted
1 minute ago, Thetexashammer said:

They need to establish a bipartisan commission of nonpoliticians to evaluate the evidence and make recommendations for prosecution.

 

Who is "they?" Yeah, I guess i agree. "They" really need to flush all of this into the open. It appears at least one side of the House, in entirety, doesn't want that to happen. The other side, however ... .

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Posted (edited)
9 minutes ago, Chooky said:

Who is "they?" Yeah, I guess i agree. "They" really need to flush all of this into the open. It appears at least one side of the House, in entirety, doesn't want that to happen. The other side, however ... .

Which side represents the American people? The correct answer is neither. Making it a partisan issue just make you look dumb. You do realize who had all the documents six months ago right?

It's all bread and circuses designed to distract the small minded.

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Posted
1 minute ago, bolverk said:

I think a few posters should consider making an appointment with their doctors to get checked for whiplash from this sudden about-face.

I, for one, have forgotten all about Jody Epstein, whatever his name is -- whoever he might be. Trump should bomb Puerto Rico and wipe this news off of the forefront. 

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Posted (edited)
39 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:

I swear the DOJ and FBI just released a statement that there was no list. Yes, I’m sure of it

https://www.npr.org/2025/07/07/g-s1-76367/doj-jeffrey-epstein-memo
 

so weird. How can there be no list but also that the list was fabricated by two different democratic administrations between 2008-2016 and 2020-2024. Never mind that he died in prison in 2019. Probably best not to worry too much about who was president then or anything 

here's the vid

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Posted
3 minutes ago, Thetexashammer said:

Making it a partisan issue just make you look dumb.

This thing was political from the QAnon beginnings; this was never about taking down a global cabal of pedophiles, it was about painting Democrats as pedophiles.   Dotard and 99% of MAGAts don't give a shit about Epstein and arresting/punishing pedophiles, this week has proven that beyond a shadow of a doubt. 

They campaigned on it for 15 years, now out of nowhere, Trump snaps his fingers and says Epstein doesn't matter anymore, and his followers nod in agreement.   

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Posted
10 minutes ago, Chopper said:

here's the vid

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Yesterday the files didn't exist. Now they were written by Obama. You'd have to be really focused on your acquiescence ritual, like on a deeply spiritual level, to buy this pound of ham. 

BOTH SIDES! 

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Posted
14 minutes ago, Chopper said:

here's the vid

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I don't think ever agreed with Candace Owens on anything, but she's right on this one. This is embarrassing. What was in the EPSTEIN FILES binders they passed out to influencers at the White House, just blank sheets of paper? 

GTFOHWTMFBS

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Posted
15 minutes ago, The Royal We said:

I don't think ever agreed with Candace Owens on anything, but she's right on this one. This is embarrassing. What was in the EPSTEIN FILES binders they passed out to influencers at the White House, just blank sheets of paper? 

GTFOHWTMFBS

They were all redacted I believe when it came to any names or anything that would identify the people on the list. 

Posted
1 hour ago, Thetexashammer said:

Which side represents the American people? The correct answer is neither. Making it a partisan issue just make you look dumb. You do realize who had all the documents six months ago right?

It's all bread and circuses designed to distract the small minded.

LMAO 

Your side literally campaigned on this issue. With the explicit message being that only the GOP could unveil the massive pedophilia being committed by the elites (Dems.)

Now it's, "oh well, nothing to see here. Only small minds care about this." 

How fucking convenient 

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Posted
1 hour ago, Thetexashammer said:

They need to establish a bipartisan commission of nonpoliticians to evaluate the evidence and make recommendations for prosecution.

 

 

Stephen Colbert No GIF by The Late Show With Stephen Colbert

 

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Posted
1 hour ago, The Royal We said:

I don't think ever agreed with Candace Owens on anything, but she's right on this one. This is embarrassing. What was in the EPSTEIN FILES binders they passed out to influencers at the White House, just blank sheets of paper?

Oh sure, like the Trump people would ever pull a stunt like that...

 

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Posted
1 hour ago, Thetexashammer said:

It is extremely unlikely to the point of impossibility that Biden's proxies had dirt on Trump and didn't release it.

As I have pointed out, responsible governments don't just release dirt on their enemies.  If they can indict and convict them, they try.

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Posted
1 hour ago, Thetexashammer said:

They need to establish a bipartisan commission of nonpoliticians to evaluate the evidence and make recommendations for prosecution.

 

Prosecution by Trump's DOJ?  Are you fucking kidding?

 

13 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

 

Stephen Colbert No GIF by The Late Show With Stephen Colbert

 

Great move by Kanna to put them on the spot.

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Posted (edited)

So the big gotcha is one side campaigned on releasing the Epstein files, and the other side didn’t give enough of a fuck about it to make it an issue?

“Your side is blocking the release!” Isn’t a slam when your own side didn’t give a damn about children being sex trafficked in the first place. 
 

Its patently obvious that no one in power, or who once held it wants the results of that investigation released. 
 

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Posted
43 minutes ago, Bobby_Batronic said:

So the big gotcha is one side campaigned on releasing the Epstein files, and the other side didn’t give enough of a fuck about it to make it an issue?

“Your side is blocking the release!” Isn’t a slam when your own side didn’t give a damn about children being sex trafficked in the first place. 
 

Its patently obvious that no one in power, or who once held it wants the results of that investigation released. 
 

The mental gymnastics here. Wow.

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Posted (edited)
45 minutes ago, Bobby_Batronic said:

So the big gotcha is one side campaigned on releasing the Epstein files, and the other side didn’t give enough of a fuck about it to make it an issue?

“Your side is blocking the release!” Isn’t a slam when your own side didn’t give a damn about children being sex trafficked in the first place. 
 

Its patently obvious that no one in power, or who once held it wants the results of that investigation released. 
 

Well there was the whole show with the giant Epstein file binders being handed out on the White House lawn and right wing influencers being given heavily redacted copies in a vain attempt to make good on a promise they had no intention of keeping. Maybe you missed that episode. 

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Posted
1 minute ago, aggie08 said:

The mental gymnastics here. Wow.

There’s no mental gymnastics. One side was in power and gave nary a damn about it. The other side made a stink about it and now refuses to produce the goods. 
 

The result is the same. No one in power, or who held power, is interested in releasing the information. 

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1 minute ago, mdmost said:

Well there was the whole show with the giant Epstein file binders being handed out on the White House lawn and right wing influencers being given heavily redacted copies in a vain attempt to make good on a promise they had no intention of keeping. Maybe you missed that episode. 

Maybe that rings as hollow to me as staging a vote to release the files when no one who’s making a stink now pushed for anything over a four year period. 
 

The results are the same. Nothing gets done. The Dems and the Pubs are full of shit on this issue. 

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