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Texas Rangers 2023 - They're Still Shitty?

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Just now, Trey3216 said:

I don’t care who pays him as long has he gets us another 2 or 3 wins* (if necessary) 

Fair enough. 

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Just now, brojangles2 said:

Hopefully by us. 

I’m not privy to their long term financial strategy, but Scherzer and DeGrom are on the payroll next year.  

It’s unreal that we have played only one home game, and we’re still undefeated in the postseason.

2 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Went looking for contract data to see what the starting pitching situation looks like- completely forgot that they had signed odorizzi as well. 

Odorizzi was going to be the 6th starter or long man more than likely, which would’ve left Dunning in the unknown.  

Lot of bad at bats last few innings. Gonna need guys doing a better job of working the count. Only made Abreu throw 8 pitches in the 9th. Nice to see pitching and bullpen fuck shit up when bats weren’t.

1 minute ago, conVINCEd said:

I’m not privy to their long term financial strategy, but Scherzer and DeGrom are on the payroll next year.  

Only paying Max ~22 million though. Young cheap position guys make it easier to pony up for what would be a killer 4th starter. 

2 minutes ago, conVINCEd said:

I’m not privy to their long term financial strategy, but Scherzer and DeGrom are on the payroll next year.  

I thought Scherzer had a player option for next season.

Just now, Billy Pilgrim said:

I thought Scherzer had a player option for next season.

Part of the trade was Scherzer agreeing to the option for next year.  Also, Odorizzi is an UFA after this season.

Just now, Billy Pilgrim said:

I thought Scherzer had a player option for next season.

Us keeping him for next year was a condition of the trade.

1 minute ago, Billy Pilgrim said:

I thought Scherzer had a player option for next season.

He exercised it as a condition of the trade. 
 

it looks like Heaney has one for like 13 million- no idea if he’s indicated his intention. 

17 minutes ago, conVINCEd said:

I’m not privy to their long term financial strategy, but Scherzer and DeGrom are on the payroll next year.  

Yep. I knew when the deal first occurred, but I’ve forgotten how much NY is paying of Max’s deal. I do think they’re pitching in. 

Just now, ChiTownDoc said:

Fuck the Astros. 

Always this. Forever. 

4 minutes ago, shadow_operative2.0 said:

 

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Baseball is a strange mistress. 

But a beautiful mistress.  After all these years, I still miss - and dream of - playing baseball.  Great dreams.

Eovaldi has been nails his last two times out. Monty was in his ear in every single camera shot after being pulled. He is going to be prepared tomorrow. 

Rangers 1-4 hitters went 1-16 tonight with a single. And we won. If they get going tomorrow we’re going to be very happy. 

54 minutes ago, brojangles2 said:

Yep. I knew when the deal first occurred, but I’ve forgotten how much NY is paying of Max’s deal. I do think they’re pitching in. 

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51 minutes ago, Firemans4Horn said:

Rangers 1-4 hitters went 1-16 tonight with a single. And we won. If they get going tomorrow we’re going to be very happy. 

And that was the second hitter of the game, who was then immediately erased when garver decided to play pepper with verlander. 

9 hours ago, TexasGary said:

Evan Carter catch.  Correct me if I am wrong but it sounds like the announcer says "back goes Lowe".

 

He did say that, but I’ll give him a little leeway.  I believe in the moment he mixed Taveras’ name up and flubbed, back goes Leody. And then Carter got to it anyway.

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1 hour ago, AbeFroman said:

 

 

Its disconcerting that the umpire wasn't watching. Like what else was the 2nd base umpire doing on that play. If not for replay Altuve would have still been on first after taking a 3-1 fastball down the middle for ball 4. Those 2 instances plus the run taken off the board from Jung's walk before Taveras HR.

We have to continue to be that much better than these clowns. 

9 hours ago, Firemans4Horn said:

Rangers 1-4 hitters went 1-16 tonight with a single. And we won. If they get going tomorrow we’re going to be very happy. 

Absolutely.

Just hope their best hitters continue to miss.

I read today Montgomery is the first pitcher to ever strike out Alvarez three times in one game.

Plenty of Montgomery tidbits: https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/38669556/mlb-2023-playoffs-alcs-rangers-pitching-astros-yordan-alvarez

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Astros got almost a full run from the ump and still couldn't score

i was just surprised that Smoltz did not gush about the Orioles during the broadcast and bring up that they would likely have been up 5-0 on the Astros

19 minutes ago, Sir Ulrich said:

 

 

Astros got almost a full run from the ump and still couldn't score

The non-scientific analysis says it was definitely a run — the bs strikeout looking to Jung right before Taveras’s blast. 

Its disconcerting that the umpire wasn't watching. Like what else was the 2nd base umpire doing on that play. If not for replay Altuve would have still been on first after taking a 3-1 fastball down the middle for ball 4. Those 2 instances plus the run taken off the board from Jung's walk before Taveras HR.
We have to continue to be that much better than these clowns. 
Yeah I don't get that at all. Ump at 2nd had literally no other job to do on that fly out to Carter except make sure the runner hits the base before advancing or going back. He was looking right at it and didn't say shit. Luckily we have replay to correct this junk.
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1 hour ago, cmontexas said:
Its disconcerting that the umpire wasn't watching. Like what else was the 2nd base umpire doing on that play. If not for replay Altuve would have still been on first after taking a 3-1 fastball down the middle for ball 4. Those 2 instances plus the run taken off the board from Jung's walk before Taveras HR.
We have to continue to be that much better than these clowns. 

Yeah I don't get that at all. Ump at 2nd had literally no other job to do on that fly out to Carter except make sure the runner hits the base before advancing or going back. He was looking right at it and didn't say shit. Luckily we have replay to correct this junk.

If he's looking right at it my guess is he didn't understand the rule correctly.

4 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said:
1 hour ago, cmontexas said:
Its disconcerting that the umpire wasn't watching. Like what else was the 2nd base umpire doing on that play. If not for replay Altuve would have still been on first after taking a 3-1 fastball down the middle for ball 4. Those 2 instances plus the run taken off the board from Jung's walk before Taveras HR.
We have to continue to be that much better than these clowns. 

Yeah I don't get that at all. Ump at 2nd had literally no other job to do on that fly out to Carter except make sure the runner hits the base before advancing or going back. He was looking right at it and didn't say shit. Luckily we have replay to correct this junk.

Electronic ump behind home and sensors in the bags and laser sights along the lines. All these fuckups can be corrected but turdition demands we keep getting human error because otherwise baseball us ruined.

Navigating by the sun and stars was fun too, but I like online maps myself.

Electronic ump behind home and sensors in the bags and laser sights along the lines. All these fuckups can be corrected but turdition demands we keep getting human error because otherwise baseball us ruined.
Navigating by the sun and stars was fun too, but I like online maps myself.
Robo strike zone can't get here fast enough. But yeah, the baseball purists will be very upset with that. They think the umps having these fucked up zones is the beauty of the game. Nah. A strike should be a strike. It shouldn't be dependent on what the ump feels like calling that day. And each team might get a different zone that can affect the outcome.

Hell, the baseball purists were against replay as well. It's there for the exact reason we saw last night. To keep these umps in check.

Stros would just get a hacker to cheat the  roboumps anyway.

 

So blue missed 7 calls, the two most impactful were against Texas (and were obviously bad in real time), and I’d guess 5 or 6 of the 7 were detrimental to Texas.  
not that there was an agenda, but it would have been frustrating to lose a close game with the misses skewed against us like that. 
 

There’s no cf umpire, so I’d assume the 2b umpire is responsible for fly balls in center?  Or do the two OF umps on the lines get all the outfield calls? LF umpire might not have even been able to see the play. 
 

and it’s not clear above, but it’s not the umpire’s job to call altuve out there when he sees him miss the base. The team has to tag him or otherwise appeal to generate a call. It’s an umpire’s job to see that it happened to be able to make the correct call. In the broadcast it seemed to go right to replay without showing a call on the field. I assume they tagged him and got a safe call?

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7 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

I assume they tagged him and got a safe call?

Applied the force at 2nd but yes, they did.

I'm not sure a call was actually made on the field, though. I think they just saw Semien touch 2nd and then reviewed it. 

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7 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

 

and it’s not clear above, but it’s not the umpire’s job to call altuve out there when he sees him miss the base. The team has to tag him or otherwise appeal to generate a call. It’s an umpire’s job to see that it happened to be able to make the correct call. In the broadcast it seemed to go right to replay without showing a call on the field. I assume they tagged him and got a safe call?

Semien stomps on the base and can be seen talking to the ump, basically explaining his job to him. Then they went to replay. 

2 minutes ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

carter sitting?

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28 minutes ago, ztejas said:

Applied the force at 2nd but yes, they did.

I'm not sure a call was actually made on the field, though. I think they just saw Semien touch 2nd and then reviewed it. 

i thought blue made the 'safe' signal after Marcus touched the bag.  

Just now, futureman said:

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speculation based on him not starting vs LHP i guess. 

 

yup.  interesting.  I guess Bochy knows a bit more than I do but I’d have Carter in left. 

Not a fan. Defense is important too.  Hopefully they chase Valdez fairly quickly and carter can go into LF. 

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