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2 minutes ago, F250 said:

This, I am not a liberal, progressive, leftist or Democrat. As a libertarian, I always related to the Republican fiscal stance up until the election of Trump. Then the GOP lost their fucking minds and went full blown bat shit crazy.

The party has become protectionist, anti-immigration, Keynesian (but in a retarded way), isolationist, and blatantly racist (welcoming the Alt-right).

They chased out George Fucking Will. This is not your father's Republican Party.

 

Preach! This is not my Republican party. Fiscal conservatism died under Bush. Less government has been replaced by 'we need government to control gay marriage and cakes". 

It's been hijacked by the Alt-right and won't recover in my life time.

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8 minutes ago, Cheeseweasel said:

Preach! This is not my Republican party. Fiscal conservatism died under Bush. Less government has been replaced by 'we need government to control gay marriage and cakes". 

It's been hijacked by the Alt-right and won't recover in my life time.

Wait, the GOP is for more government to control wedding cakes?  Pretty sure it’s the opposite. And that’s a less government issue.  

And gay marriage has been decided. I was for it long before Hillary and Barack.  

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Just now, Johnny Sack said:

Wait, the GOP is for more government to control wedding cakes?  Pretty sure it’s the opposite. And that’s a less government issue.  

And gay marriage has been decided. I was for it long before Hillary and Barack.  

So the MAGA group is cool with gay marriage? Bet you a dollar you are wrong.

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21 minutes ago, hayden_horn said:

wait, seriously?

i was in a lyft and downtown julie brown is apparently a sirius/xm radio host, and kennedy is hosting a fox business show? what the hell is riki rachtman up to?

Apparently Adam Curry is a legislative analyst who also does some podcasting, rarely sets an alarm, and  believes that the Universe will provide.

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2 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

Does Bernie?  Is he not one?  Did he not have a significant portion of the left?

Please point to any statement by Sanders, or a plank in his platform, where he espoused government ownership of all means of production.

His viewpoint is essentially one that values regulated capitalism.  He is not a socialist.

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18 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Do you actually know what socialism is?  If so, do you see a significant faction of the US -- hell, of the left -- pushing for socialism?

Semi-related story.

A number of years ago, I was consulting for a fairly large public utility company. One day I was shooting the shit with a few guys who were lifers. All of them were die hard Tea Party types. They started going off on socialism and I couldn't resist pointing out the irony.

I said, "y'all have spent y'alls entire working life at a company that is owned by the state and has a monopoly on power generation and distribution for a large region. This is a situation where the state literally owns the means of production and y'all have a problem with socialism?" I don't think they saw the irony, so I took a couple of jabs at public unions and pensions for good measure, which meant I crossed the line. The whole conversation started with them trashing Silicon Valley for being too liberal and socialist which was is a million times more free-market than where they made a living.

 

 

 

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31 minutes ago, F250 said:

This, I am not a liberal, progressive, leftist or Democrat. As a libertarian, I always related to the Republican fiscal stance up until the election of Trump. Then the GOP lost their fucking minds and went full blown bat shit crazy.

The party has become protectionist, anti-immigration, Keynesian (but in a retarded way), isolationist, and blatantly racist (welcoming the Alt-right).

They chased out George Fucking Will. This is not your father's Republican Party.

 

Yeah. Here I am too. Homeless.  Feels kind of good.  Fuck both sides.  

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28 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Please point to any statement by Sanders, or a plank in his platform, where he espoused government ownership of all means of production.

His viewpoint is essentially one that values regulated capitalism.  He is not a socialist.

So he  a liar when he says he is one?

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7 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

So he  a liar when he says he is one?

He usually says he's a "Democratic Socialist", the accepted definition of which is pretty clear.  He has sometimes used the shorthand "socialist" but that is not what he actually advocates.  Socialism requires that corporations cede all control to the government.  Bernie advocates for stronger regulation on corporations.

I did not vote for Bernie, by the way.  I just think it's absurd how the right uses "socialist" as a label to make him the instant boogeyman.

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18 hours ago, bad_teammate said:

They are? Where? Source?

I already received an email today from change.org to sign a petition to oppose Kavanaugh.....sure there is more to come.

The petition below calls on Sen. Susan Collins to oppose Judge Kavanaugh’s nomination, and stand up for safe and legal access to reproductive rights for all women.

 

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17 minutes ago, TexasBuckeye said:

I already received an email today from change.org to sign a petition to oppose Kavanaugh.....sure there is more to come.

The petition below calls on Sen. Susan Collins to oppose Judge Kavanaugh’s nomination, and stand up for safe and legal access to reproductive rights for all women.

 

.... uh .... what does this have to do with what I was responding to?

 

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The GOP only wants less government when it comes to assistance for the poors and the browns or oversight and regulation of their business interests.

The GOP wants more government when it comes to regulating people's behavior.

No, Tex, they advocate for state's rights on personal issues!  Sure they do.  That's why there's still a federal marijuana law that takes precedence even in the several states that have legalized it.  

The GOP cares about two things: helping the wealthy make more money and legislating morality for everyone.  That's it.  Anyone who says otherwise is full of shit.

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What’s the deal with all the collective vitriol towards Johnny Sack? His posting style hasn’t changed since shaggy. He never got shit on there like he his here. See lots of stuff mentioning his wealth and success. Is that the root of it? I have been unpopular and shit upon for more than 20 years from the days of Hornfans, shaggy to now surly. It can be a bit disorienting to be the object of derision. Hope he doesn’t take it too hard.

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56 minutes ago, Iconoclast Texan said:

What’s the deal with all the collective vitriol towards Johnny Sack? His posting style hasn’t changed since shaggy.

A lot of middle-of-the-road conservatives really really don't like Trump and Johnny Sack's racial/ethnocentric bullshit is harder to ignore now.

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2 hours ago, hayden_horn said:

Man, I just saw a commercial in support of appointing judge Kavanaugh from a PAC on CNN while working late. Is this what we have become?

Btw, for the reactionaries, I would feel the same about #bothsides on this issue. Its fucking unseemly. 

You must not have seen the PAC ads attacking Rod Rosenstein, a career public servant and not an elected official.

 

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19 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

I would be surprised if Trump didn’t coordinate Kennedy to Kavanaugh via Kennedy’s son.

It’s not like all these guys had close personal relationships prior to Trump becoming president.

I'm sure Putin brokered the deal.  Right ??

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2 hours ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

I'm sure Putin brokered the deal.  Right ??

Looks like he did!

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Media: Trump and Kennedy Colluded (with Russia?) to Pick Kavanaugh

BY: Alex Griswold

July 10, 2018 1:41 pm

Brett Kavanaugh shakes hands with President Donald Trump

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I hope you're are buckled in, because I'm about to blow your f***ing minds.

1. President Donald Trump colluded with Anthony Kennedy to nominate Brett Kavanaugh

We know this because of a tweet sent by NBC reporter Leigh Ann Caldwell claiming that "Kennedy and Trump/WH had been in negotiations for months over Kennedy’s replacement. Once Kennedy received assurances that it would be Kavanaugh, his former law clerk, Kennedy felt comfortable retiring."

 

Furthermore, the five names Trump added to his list of Federalist Approved judges last November was to get Kavanaugh on that list. The other four names were considered cover, per source.

In other words: the decision has been baked for a while:
W/ @frankthorp

Now naysayers might point out that Caldwell immediately followed up by indicating that she "[doesn't] have any info on whether [Trump] talked to [Kennedy]" and was citing only one source.

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Furthermore, the five names Trump added to his list of Federalist Approved judges last November was to get Kavanaugh on that list. The other four names were considered cover, per source.

In other words: the decision has been baked for a while:
W/ @frankthorp

 

To be clear: This is from one source and dont have any info on whether potus talked to kennedy about a possible replacement.

Or that she went back and deleted the tweet and said there was no "transactional nature" to Kennedy's discussions with the White House and that Kennedy listed a bunch of judges, not just Kavanaugh.

 

I’ve deleted this tweet because it incorrectly implies a transactional nature in Kennedy’s replacement. I am told by a source who was not directly part of the talks that Kennedy provided Pres. Trump/ WH a list of acceptable replacements. (1/2) pic.twitter.com/ptxJmrbH9S

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Those naysayers, I hope to prove, work for Putin. But let's take a slight detour first.

2. Anthony Kennedy and Donald Trump are secret allies

Center for American Progress president Neera Tanden blew this one wide open back in June.

 

Just to state this: Justice Kennedy's son gave a billion dollar loan to Trump when no one would give him a dime, and Justice Kennedy has been ruling in favor of the Trump Administration position for 2 years as the Court decides 5-4 case after 5-4 case.

The quid pro quo here is obvious. First, the Kennedys provided Donald Trump with a $1 billion loan. In return for that favor, the Kennedys also ruled in Trump's favor in exchange for nothing. Rather deviously, Kennedy also ruled in favor of the Trump administration on cases where his past rulings strongly suggest he would've done so anyway. It makes too much sense NOT to be true.

3. MSNBC's Stephanie Ruhle IS IN ON IT

The MSNBC host immediately threw cold water on Tanden's theory at the time, citing her previous work with Justin Kennedy at Deutsche Bank (note: "Deutsche" is German for "Russian") and claiming he didn't have anything to do with the Trump loan.

 

I worked w/Justin at DB
While he did run a portion of the real estate biz
He was on the institutional side of the bank -NOT private bank
Trump was a private bank client & I believe the lending happened after justin left DB
Trump wanted to borrow from the instit side/they said NO

Since the fact is unimpeachable that the Kennedys traded $1 billion in return for them also giving Trump other things, we can only assume Ruhle is in on the conspiracy. But back to the Kavanaugh conspiracy…

4. The Kennedy/Trump Kavanaugh pick is directly tied to the Kennedy/Trump quid pro quo

Again, thank you to Neera Tanden for this insight, based on a tweet from an NBC reporter that was based on a tweet that has now been deleted.

5. The Kennedy/Trump secret alliance dates back at least to 1998

That's when Trump got his first Deutsche Bank loan.

6. Trump was already a Russian agent, dating back to 1987

"What If Trump Has Been a Russian Asset Since 1987?" Jonathan Chait wrote for New York Magazine Monday. In a whopping 8,000 words, Chait lays out the case that, maybe, one day, hypothetically, you never know, there might be evidence indicating that, perhaps, there's a chance Trump has been a Russian agent dating back to 1987, possibly.

Chait notes that Trump began railing against the U.S. providing security to nations like Japan in return for no compensation in 1987. He briefly entertained the notion that Trump's showy entrance into politics and attacking America's "bad deals" might somehow be related to the 1987 release of The Art of the Deal. But Chait notes Trump was talking about Japan two months before The Art of the Dealwas released, and surely no one has ever sought publicity or had an idea before a book release.

Instead, the shift must have been brought about by Trump's 1987 trip to Russia, Chait concludes. But he does assuage the doubters:

The safest assumption is that it’s entirely coincidental that Trump launched a national campaign, with himself as spokesman, built around themes that dovetailed closely with Soviet foreign-policy goals shortly after his Moscow stay. Indeed, it seems slightly insane to contemplate the possibility that a secret relationship between Trump and Russia dates back this far. But it can’t be dismissed completely. How do you even think about the small but real chance — 10 percent? 20 percent? — that the president of the United States has been covertly influenced or personally compromised by a hostile foreign power for decades?

I can see no flaws in this logic.

7. If Trump was a Russian agent in 1998, Justice Kennedy was likely made a Russian agent AROUND THAT TIME

The safest assumption is this is false. It seems slightly insane to say it's true. But if there's at least a 10 percent chance this is true, shouldn't we be discussing it?

8. Trump and Kennedy would only choose someone else in their Russian spy circle to replace him on the Supreme Court

Makes sense.

9. Brett Kavanaugh is a Russian agent who reports directly to Putin

I understand this may be confusing to some. So I've decided to make a chart.

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I know what you're thinking: "Alex, isn't this all a bit speculative?" Well, what's the alternative? That multiple reporters and respectable center-left pundits have fallen prey to absurd, unproved conspiracy theories about President Donald Trump as a result of the impotence and frustration they feel at an inability to curb his policy and Supreme Court picks?

Personally, I find that hard to swallow.

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(uh, for aggys and assorted knee-jerkers, it's... uh... a satire... but as you can see, not much of one.  Goddamn it's funny because the media's so fucking pathetic).

 

 


 

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7 hours ago, hayden_horn said:

Man, I just saw a commercial in support of appointing judge Kavanaugh from a PAC on CNN while working late. Is this what we have become?

Btw, for the reactionaries, I would feel the same about #bothsides on this issue. Its fucking unseemly. 

A bunch of commercials and web ads dropped as soon as Kavanaugh got named.  Yes, it is.

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10 minutes ago, phdhorn said:

Looks like he did!

 

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(uh, for aggys and assorted knee-jerkers, it's... uh... a satire... but as you can see, not much of one.  Goddamn it's funny because the media's so fucking pathetic).

 

 


 

Alex Griswold looks like Jacob the Bar Mitzvah Boy from SNL.

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12 hours ago, Iconoclast Texan said:

What’s the deal with all the collective vitriol towards Johnny Sack? His posting style hasn’t changed since shaggy. He never got shit on there like he his here. See lots of stuff mentioning his wealth and success. Is that the root of it? I have been unpopular and shit upon for more than 20 years from the days of Hornfans, shaggy to now surly. It can be a bit disorienting to be the object of derision. Hope he doesn’t take it too hard.

On shaggy, there were a lot more trolls who were more overtly racist and that masked Johnny's posts. Over here, he is on an island.  But also, Trump enablers were starting to get shit on more toward the end of shaggy too. 

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2 minutes ago, FondrenRoad said:

On shaggy, there were a lot more trolls who were more overtly racist and that masked Johnny's posts. Over here, he is on an island.  But also, Trump enablers were starting to get shit on more toward the end of shaggy too. 

He got a lot of shit on Shaggy for being an entitled, out of touch trust fund baby

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