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2 minutes ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

Venables gets a mulligan if they sit Mateer and get beat by Texas. Nobody is going to blame him. He needs to sit Mateer for self-preservation unless the dude is anywhere close to 100%.

 

They can claim a mental moral victory on the season if they play his health right, the question is what is more important to them, a better chance at beating us or an overall (perceived) quality season

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1 minute ago, BurgleBro said:

They can claim a mental moral victory on the season if they play his health right, the question is what is more important to them, a better chance at beating us or an overall (perceived) quality season

Best case scenario for OU is to keep it close or pull out a miracle with Hawkins, then try to get a second shot in the SEC championship or in the playoff if they can make it through.  I think the goodwill is high enough with Venables right now that he doesn't need the excuse directly to save his job.  That could obviously change based on the rest of the year.

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11 minutes ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

Venables gets a mulligan if they sit Mateer and get beat by Texas. Nobody is going to blame him. He needs to sit Mateer for self-preservation unless the dude is anywhere close to 100%.

 

You type that as if it is a bad thing. 

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39 minutes ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

Venables gets a mulligan if they sit Mateer and get beat by Texas. Nobody is going to blame him. He needs to sit Mateer for self-preservation unless the dude is anywhere close to 100%.

 

In expanded playoff era you're 100% spot on imo.  But he could feel great and push to play, between him and his surgeon imo.  But with OU's schedule they can easily lose 2 and definitely be in and if they lose 3 and one is w no Mateer they still have a decent shot. 

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37 minutes ago, ChiTownDoc said:

In expanded playoff era you're 100% spot on imo.  But he could feel great and push to play, between him and his surgeon imo.  But with OU's schedule they can easily lose 2 and definitely be in and if they lose 3 and one is w no Mateer they still have a decent shot. 

This scenario implies a potential 2008 fuckery possibility. 

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1 hour ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

Venables gets a mulligan if they sit Mateer and get beat by Texas. Nobody is going to blame him. He needs to sit Mateer for self-preservation unless the dude is anywhere close to 100%.

 

Oklahoma is crazy, but they aren't Ohio State level crazy. 

If Vegetables loses to Texas but otherwise has a great year and hits the playoffs they'll be happy to be functional again and aim at us next year. 
 

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3 hours ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

Venables gets a mulligan if they sit Mateer and get beat by Texas. Nobody is going to blame him. He needs to sit Mateer for self-preservation unless the dude is anywhere close to 100%.

 

Yeah, there are few defenses in college football you would never want to play an injured QB against with a shitty OL. We are one of them.

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I'm not so sure I wouldn't prefer Mateer trying to come back for our game. The injury and surgery is to his throwing hand.  If he comes back for that game, his passing is going to be all kinds of fucked up, he will be a fumbling machine if he tries to run the ball, and we are going to attack him mercilessly with Simmons and co. 

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On 9/26/2025 at 9:38 AM, Red Five said:

I just saw this. If the recovery time is a month, minimum, then how is there not risk in playing him before it's healed? Hell, get him out there at practice now and shoot him up with painkillers if that's the case.

North Dallas Forty - Peter Gent says hi from above.  

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22 hours ago, HtownHorn said:

Yeah, there are few defenses in college football you would never want to play an injured QB against with a shitty OL. We are one of them.

Colin Simmons and Anthony Hill Jr say “hi”

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I don’t give a shit if they roll out the second coming of Charles Thompson in his orange prison jumpsuit at qb.

 

It won’t make a shit and they can all fucking blow me. 

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21 hours ago, honolulu horn said:

I'm not so sure I wouldn't prefer Mateer trying to come back for our game. The injury and surgery is to his throwing hand.  If he comes back for that game, his passing is going to be all kinds of fucked up, he will be a fumbling machine if he tries to run the ball, and we are going to attack him mercilessly with Simmons and co. 

We get the public hype of beating OU at "full strength" while Mateer will be functionally limited and running less. He likely wouldn't finish the game. Also, Mateer getting reinjured and making his thumb worse would doom their season.

Only an idiot would rush him back for the Texas game. I fully expect BV to rush him back for the Texas game. 

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On 9/27/2025 at 5:36 PM, NashLonghorn said:

Colin Simmons and Anthony Hill Jr say “hi”

Just to calibrate this a bit; 

Anthony Hill Jr. has 16 tackles, 1 TFL for -2 yards, and no sacks this season.

Collin Simmons is sitting at 6 tackles, 1.5 TFLs for -5 yards, and 1.5 sacks.

Both good players, but not really putting up the kind of numbers people hype them up for.

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15 minutes ago, Constant said:

Just to calibrate this a bit; 

Anthony Hill Jr. has 16 tackles, 1 TFL for -2 yards, and no sacks this season.

Collin Simmons is sitting at 6 tackles, 1.5 TFLs for -5 yards, and 1.5 sacks.

Both good players, but not really putting up the kind of numbers people hype them up for.

Anthony Hill had 8 sacks, 19 TFLs and was First Team All SEC last year. Colin Simmons had 9 sacks and 17 TFLs last year and was the Shaun Alexander Freshman of the Year. Worth noting that they combined for 2 sacks, 6 TFLs and a forced fumble against OU last year. 

Is your contention that they've both gotten significantly worse based on box score reading from primarily meaningless games so far this year? 

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8 minutes ago, Jimmy Two Times said:

Anthony Hill had 8 sacks, 19 TFLs and was First Team All SEC last year. Colin Simmons had 9 sacks and 17 TFLs last year and was the Shaun Alexander Freshman of the Year. Worth noting that they combined for 2 sacks, 6 TFLs and a forced fumble against OU last year. 

Is your contention that they've both gotten significantly worse based on box score reading from primarily meaningless games so far this year? 

I think my contention is they suck, and you suck. Last year is last year. Mike Leach said it best.

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On 9/27/2025 at 11:58 PM, tbone_ said:

I don’t give a shit if they roll out the second coming of Charles Thompson in his orange prison jumpsuit at qb. 

The second coming of Charles Thompson played for us in 2021 and collapsed in the second half of Red River....

Posted
31 minutes ago, Constant said:

I think my contention is they suck, and you suck. Last year is last year. Mike Leach said it best.

Then OU should definitely play Mateer. He has nothing to worry about. Looking forward to it.

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On 9/28/2025 at 8:39 AM, Josef Pwag said:

We get the public hype of beating OU at "full strength" while Mateer will be functionally limited and running less. He likely wouldn't finish the game. Also, Mateer getting reinjured and making his thumb worse would doom their season.

Only an idiot would rush him back for the Texas game. I fully expect BV to rush him back for the Texas game. 

No one will care but message boards fans in week 11 

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