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3 hours ago, Chopper said:

Elmo is reaching for new ways to show the world what a complete fucking moronic bitch he truly is

 

My brother has been MAGA since 2016. It wasn’t until a few years ago he went full Elon and got super jacked on T and HGH. I thought it was a mid-life crisis thing, but it turns out he did it the second his Mexican-American son decided to grow out his hair and asked to go to therapy to explore his feelings of being trans. So how does Elon explain that in a non-White person? The look on my brother’s face when I said his hormones were gender affirming care was priceless. 

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On 8/29/2025 at 11:50 AM, Brisketexan said:

Let's put it another way: Tesla has institutionalized, as a corporate rule and practice, the spoliation of evidence (legal term for destruction of evidence that a party knows is likely to be relevant to a claim).  In most jurisdictions, that merits an instruction from the court which functionally says "The Defendant intentionally destroyed evidence of this crash.  You are instructed that the evidence was likely to indicate that Defendant was liable, and you may take this instruction into account when assessing liability in your deliberations."

That action (and the corporate policy of immediately deleting such information) is also good evidence of Tesla's fraudulent intent in marketing FSD as an available, safe-to-use product.  

Tesla is a scam and a grift, built on a foundation of fraud and lies, with conscious disregard for human life and safety.  They are serving that case up to plaintiffs' attorneys nationwide on a silver platter.  The really stupid thing is that it didn't have to be that way, but Elon's galaxy-sized ego got in the way.  Tesla could have been a perfectly good car company, making good and safe products, advancing towards FSD at a reasonable speed.  But he had to overpromise, then lie, then conceal the truth, with no regard for safety.

Further, if information, the concealment of which led to human harm/death, was concealed at the instruction of a particular person, that person can and should be subject to criminal charges, up to and including criminally negligent homicide/manslaughter.

Y'know, all this was foreshadowed when the future tech plutocrats thought they didn't need patents, or to avoid infringing patents, or do anything any of the other bricks and mortar businesses did because "disruption."

These fuckers are the embodiment of stupid libertarians and laws for thee but not for me.

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5 hours ago, Chopper said:

Elmo is reaching for new ways to show the world what a complete fucking moronic bitch he truly is

1 hour ago, MrBig said:

My brother has been MAGA since 2016. It wasn’t until a few years ago he went full Elon and got super jacked on T and HGH. I thought it was a mid-life crisis thing, but it turns out he did it the second his Mexican-American son decided to grow out his hair and asked to go to therapy to explore his feelings of being trans. So how does Elon explain that in a non-White person? The look on my brother’s face when I said his hormones were gender affirming care was priceless. 

 

Leon still cannot handle that Grimes left him.

 

 

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5 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

 

Leon still cannot handle that Grimes left him.

 

 

Well, that and the fact that he has a thin crooked uncircumcised little penis that doesn't work. 

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xAI has to be burning through cash at an impressive clip.  The shell game can't continue forever,  can it?

"The company’s proxy statement that laid out Musk’s payment plan also included a shareholder proposal that Tesla take a stake in privately-held xAI, the artificial intelligence company that Musk also owns. That could help Elon Musk further consolidate his growing business empire."

https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/05/business/elon-musk-tesla-new-pay-package

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11 hours ago, Foosters said:

I bet Gaudaloopy has anecdotes in which his dog didn't die so there 

Would any dog even give him the time of day? They are much smarter creatures than they get credit for.

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4 hours ago, Colonel Sanders said:

 

xAI has to be burning through cash at an impressive clip.  The shell game can't continue forever,  can it?

"The company’s proxy statement that laid out Musk’s payment plan also included a shareholder proposal that Tesla take a stake in privately-held xAI, the artificial intelligence company that Musk also owns. That could help Elon Musk further consolidate his growing business empire."

https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/05/business/elon-musk-tesla-new-pay-package

This is where things have been headed forever. Tesla is failing so he’s going to merge xAI and SpaceX and bank on government contracts 

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2 hours ago, Pig Bellmont said:

This is where things have been headed forever. Tesla is failing so he’s going to merge xAI and SpaceX and bank on government contracts 

From NYT:

These numbers sound fanciful, and even the company calls them “aspirational.” But the truth is, the deal is the most honest attempt at pay-for-performance by any company out there. He gets nothing if he doesn’t reach the milestones, and must also hold the shares for at least seven and a half years to cash in any of the stock. One other proposal worth highlighting: Shareholders will be asked whether Tesla’s board should consider making an investment in xAI, Musk’s artificial intelligence business. (Its Grok A.I. model is already being used inside Tesla vehicles.) A yes vote could open the door to an investment or even a takeover, and would most likely protect the board from accusations of self-dealing.

Critics of Musk’s previous pay package — many of whom will probably dislike this one — have said that he already has plenty of incentives to work hard at Tesla, including how many shares he already owns. (Jeff Bezos, for example, never received additional Amazon stock beyond his founding stake.) But the practical reality is that Musk has interests in a number of other companies, including xAI, SpaceX and Neuralink, that make keeping him focused on Tesla difficult.

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56 minutes ago, elfenix said:

His focus on Tesla gave us bangers like "s3xy" and whatever the fuck this is:

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Whatever you think of that look, and at least the Cybertruck does look different, I'll give Tesla that much, in business terms, as in revenue > expense, I don't see how the Cybertruck comes out as anything but a monumental disaster. It just can't be profitable to make things that don't sell. And now Elon wants to pivot into making robots, I don't know if they are actually capable of making them, but I am 100% sure they are not capable of selling them.

It is so weird, the market value of TSLA is obviously so completely dependent on Musk being the true wonder-genius, but it is incredibly obvious that these wonder-genius ideas will never make actual money, so the true economic value of TSLA is actually completely dependent on removing Elon from things entirely. Markets do a lot of irrational things but this is really one for the ages.

 

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17 hours ago, Foosters said:

I bet Gaudaloopy has anecdotes in which his dog didn't die so there 

What a terrible story.  I don’t leave my dogs in the car, so I do not.  
 

6 hours ago, Deej said:

Would any dog even give him the time of day? They are much smarter creatures than they get credit for.

I’ve posted my amazing dogs multiple times in the appropriate thread, but since you’re giving me an excuse I’ll do it here.   IMG_0149.jpeg.273cf234bd1d50b705e898125c78601c.jpegIMG_2324.thumb.jpeg.5a5847bf3ccbcc9b48ae26ba2e5de5b5.jpeg

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39 minutes ago, pantone159 said:

Whatever you think of that look, and at least the Cybertruck does look different, I'll give Tesla that much, in business terms, as in revenue > expense, I don't see how the Cybertruck comes out as anything but a monumental disaster. It just can't be profitable to make things that don't sell. And now Elon wants to pivot into making robots, I don't know if they are actually capable of making them, but I am 100% sure they are not capable of selling them.

It is so weird, the market value of TSLA is obviously so completely dependent on Musk being the true wonder-genius, but it is incredibly obvious that these wonder-genius ideas will never make actual money, so the true economic value of TSLA is actually completely dependent on removing Elon from things entirely. Markets do a lot of irrational things but this is really one for the ages.

 

 

But that's the condundrum....TSLA is a "meme-stock" sort of thing.  The value it CURRENTLY has is because of the value of "Elon is boy genius!  Everything he touch turn to gold!  Elon God!" thinking.

That value is not tied to its actual value as a going concern, how good a business it really is, etc.  By THAT measure, it is way overvalued.  Now, if the stock price were suddenly re-set to a price from normal land, with normal rules, then yes, Elon likely would be a drag on its value, and removing him would help the business.

So, there's no answer.  They have to keep Elon, because irrational thinking tied to him being there is what's keeping the stock price inflated.  But in terms of actually positioning the company as a legitimate and well-run enterprise, he's long-term poison.  

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36 minutes ago, Guadaloopy said:

What a terrible story.  I don’t leave my dogs in the car, so I do not.  
 

I’ve posted my amazing dogs multiple times in the appropriate thread, but since you’re giving me an excuse I’ll do it here.   IMG_0149.jpeg.273cf234bd1d50b705e898125c78601c.jpegIMG_2324.thumb.jpeg.5a5847bf3ccbcc9b48ae26ba2e5de5b5.jpeg

Nice dog. I really hope you don't have him in your Tesla while you're in FSD mode.

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