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5 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

That is bad juju.  That random protester seems like a real piece of shit.  Anyone who calls for genocide is a piece of shit.  Thus, I presume that you are similarly outraged and inflamed by these pieces of shit calling for genocide, and the organization/state they ACTUALLY REPRESENT:

If you are upset by some demonstrators using genocidal language - and you should be, calls for genocide and murder are morally indefensible - then you must be ENRAGED when actual leaders and representatives of a State, endowed with real power, do so.  I expect that you are, like many people are.  And many people choose to speak out against that State, its genocidal actions, and its stated genocidal goals.

But our governor thinks those people should be crushed under the boot before they even say a word, because to speak against those quotes I just gave you is impermissible.

Johnny doesn't have a problem with any of that language. In fact, he agrees with it as he's affirmatively stated his desire more than once in the war thread that he'd like to see all the Palestinians removed from Gaza. 

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I see JohnnySack of shit goes on another shitposting spree. I seriously wonder what dirt he has on this site that he’s allowed to keep his bigotry and racism around. The dude was so vile he had to go change his username and he’s still around. Mindblown.

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22 minutes ago, bolverk said:

Aren't you the guy that posted a link an actual, literal Nazi website once because you thought they were making a good political point about some shit?

There it is.  

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1 minute ago, Billy Pilgrim said:

Some were starting to set up tents

Presuming that to be true.....then arrest the people who were breaking the law.  Them.  Only them.  And not other people nearby who were not breaking the law.  Stop the people who are breaking the law.  Do not deny the constitutional rights of the thousands more who were not breaking the law.

Jesus tapdancing Christ, this is not hard.  

By Billy's argument, the cops should run every UT football fan off of campus under the hooves of warhorses, because "some of them were starting to [break the law.]."  We know for a fact that numerous fans BREAK THE LAW, and get publicly intoxicated and belligerent on game day.  So, by Billy's logic, the police should drive ALL fans off of campus, because "some of them" are breaking the law.

OR....just spitballing here.....the cops could arrest those fans who break the law, and leave the other thousands to go about their business.  I know, what a WACKY idea, I'm clearly a hippie libtard communist or something.

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@immamacMy post was saying exactly what you are.  YOU are not causing the site to go to shit.  WE are.  It seems it always has to be a fight and its either one side or the other.  And then the poo flinging starts. Very little middle and for fuck sakes we beat shit into the ground. Its the way the world is now

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And the escalation of fuckery and punishment of students for speaking the wrong speech continues

https://www.kut.org/education/2024-04-26/ut-austin-says-arrested-protesters-including-students-will-not-be-allowed-on-campus

Protesters arrested for trespassing at UT Austin this week will not be allowed back on campus despite charges against them being dropped, a university spokesperson confirmed Friday.

The spokesperson did not respond to questions about how this could impact students who have final exams and plan to graduate in a couple weeks. A spokesperson told KUT the Office of the Dean of Students determines penalties for students, including how long a ban is in place.

Fifty-seven people were arrested Wednesday during pro-Palestinian protests on the university campus. UT Austin said roughly half of those arrested were students.

That includes Jumana Fakhreddine, a senior and pre-med student. The 22-year-old said she was arrested Wednesday afternoon, about 10 minutes after joining the protests. Fakhreddine said four to five officers lifted her off her feet and put her in zip-tie handcuffs.

The charges against her were dropped and she was released from jail just after midnight Thursday. She said since her release, no one from UT Austin has contacted her. She found she was not welcome on campus through a flyer circulated by the university.

“We thought that because the charges got dropped, we would be able to go to campus because we felt like that proved we didn’t do anything wrong,” she said. “But I guess that’s not true.”

UT Austin warned students before the protest that they could be disciplined for participating.

Fakhreddine said she's not sure if she'll be able to take her organic chemistry final on campus next week. She doesn’t need the class to graduate, she said, but does need it to apply to medical school.

“Initially I was angry about the whole thing, but I’m sad about how an educational institution is treating its students,” Fakhreddine said. “It just feels like such a betrayal.”

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3 minutes ago, Captainant said:

And the escalation of fuckery and punishment of students for speaking the wrong speech continues

https://www.kut.org/education/2024-04-26/ut-austin-says-arrested-protesters-including-students-will-not-be-allowed-on-campus

Their revolution is over. Condolences!  My advice to them is to do what their parents did - get a job!  The bums will always lose! 

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Just now, Skipper said:

Their revolution is over. Condolences!  My advice to them is to do what their parents did - get a job!  The bums will always lose! 

It's completely inappropriate to academically punish students for peaceful and legal expressions of free speech. 

It's horrifying how amped you are to punish these students for having an opinion you don't like. 

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6 minutes ago, Captainant said:

And the escalation of fuckery and punishment of students for speaking the wrong speech continues

https://www.kut.org/education/2024-04-26/ut-austin-says-arrested-protesters-including-students-will-not-be-allowed-on-campus

Protesters arrested for trespassing at UT Austin this week will not be allowed back on campus despite charges against them being dropped, a university spokesperson confirmed Friday.

The spokesperson did not respond to questions about how this could impact students who have final exams and plan to graduate in a couple weeks. A spokesperson told KUT the Office of the Dean of Students determines penalties for students, including how long a ban is in place.

Fifty-seven people were arrested Wednesday during pro-Palestinian protests on the university campus. UT Austin said roughly half of those arrested were students.

That includes Jumana Fakhreddine, a senior and pre-med student. The 22-year-old said she was arrested Wednesday afternoon, about 10 minutes after joining the protests. Fakhreddine said four to five officers lifted her off her feet and put her in zip-tie handcuffs.

The charges against her were dropped and she was released from jail just after midnight Thursday. She said since her release, no one from UT Austin has contacted her. She found she was not welcome on campus through a flyer circulated by the university.

“We thought that because the charges got dropped, we would be able to go to campus because we felt like that proved we didn’t do anything wrong,” she said. “But I guess that’s not true.”

UT Austin warned students before the protest that they could be disciplined for participating.

Fakhreddine said she's not sure if she'll be able to take her organic chemistry final on campus next week. She doesn’t need the class to graduate, she said, but does need it to apply to medical school.

“Initially I was angry about the whole thing, but I’m sad about how an educational institution is treating its students,” Fakhreddine said. “It just feels like such a betrayal.”

That’s some serious bullshit. It’s amazing to me that the University is tripling down on this. This is some serious backwater shit.

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1 minute ago, Captainant said:

It's completely inappropriate to academically punish students for peaceful and legal expressions of free speech. 

It's horrifying how amped you are to punish these students for having an opinion you don't like. 

Especially when the arrests appear to have been entirely arbitrary. Using their logic, everyone present should be kicked off campus.

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4 minutes ago, Captainant said:

It's completely inappropriate to academically punish students for peaceful and legal expressions of free speech. 

It's horrifying how amped you are to punish these students for having an opinion you don't like. 

Yall need to go back and read @immamac's post about actually attempting to interject some humor instead of constant outrage posting. Maybe someone else will get it.

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14 minutes ago, Captainant said:

And the escalation of fuckery and punishment of students for speaking the wrong speech continues

https://www.kut.org/education/2024-04-26/ut-austin-says-arrested-protesters-including-students-will-not-be-allowed-on-campus

Protesters arrested for trespassing at UT Austin this week will not be allowed back on campus despite charges against them being dropped, a university spokesperson confirmed Friday.

The spokesperson did not respond to questions about how this could impact students who have final exams and plan to graduate in a couple weeks. A spokesperson told KUT the Office of the Dean of Students determines penalties for students, including how long a ban is in place.

Fifty-seven people were arrested Wednesday during pro-Palestinian protests on the university campus. UT Austin said roughly half of those arrested were students.

That includes Jumana Fakhreddine, a senior and pre-med student. The 22-year-old said she was arrested Wednesday afternoon, about 10 minutes after joining the protests. Fakhreddine said four to five officers lifted her off her feet and put her in zip-tie handcuffs.

The charges against her were dropped and she was released from jail just after midnight Thursday. She said since her release, no one from UT Austin has contacted her. She found she was not welcome on campus through a flyer circulated by the university.

“We thought that because the charges got dropped, we would be able to go to campus because we felt like that proved we didn’t do anything wrong,” she said. “But I guess that’s not true.”

UT Austin warned students before the protest that they could be disciplined for participating.

Fakhreddine said she's not sure if she'll be able to take her organic chemistry final on campus next week. She doesn’t need the class to graduate, she said, but does need it to apply to medical school.

“Initially I was angry about the whole thing, but I’m sad about how an educational institution is treating its students,” Fakhreddine said. “It just feels like such a betrayal.”

If I were her, I'd lawyer up, the university is fucking up her future.

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8 minutes ago, royiv said:

That’s some serious bullshit. It’s amazing to me that the University is tripling down on this. This is some serious backwater shit.

None of this should be surprising. Fascism has been gaining strength in this country — and especially this state — for a long time. Anyone who reacts to the latest outrage with surprise just hasn’t been paying attention or has been leaning on normalcy bias.

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Just now, immamac said:

yeah seriously, I'm about to start locking threads up like this. They don't actually do anything and aren't a positive outlet for anything. 

You should send in DPS riot troops.

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6 minutes ago, Skipper said:

Yall need to go back and read @immamac's post about actually attempting to interject some humor instead of constant outrage posting. Maybe someone else will get it.

I'm not sure what's such a laughing matter? Like yeah it's from the Big Lebowski. Hawr hawr hawr! Do you think that's really appropriate in the face an honest to God fascist action on UT's campus at the behest of its own president?

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6 minutes ago, Skipper said:

Yall need to go back and read @immamac's post about actually attempting to interject some humor instead of constant outrage posting. Maybe someone else will get it.

Go ahead and lead the way and interject some humor. 

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4 minutes ago, immamac said:

yeah seriously, I'm about to start locking threads up like this. They don't actually do anything and aren't a positive outlet for anything. 

Your brand of humor is lacking. 

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Tents?! They were setting up TENTS!!??!11!??!!11

 

How about the cops walk over, and inform the tent people that tents are not allowed, and that they need to be taken down. I bet if they asked nicely, 90% of those tents would be taken down. 

And the 10% that refuse, write them a ticket and confiscate the tents. Do we really need to arrest people for setting up tents?

 

 

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2 hours ago, Captainant said:

Oh also Stateman just dropped. Charges dropped for all 57 people arrested.

https://www.statesman.com/story/news/local/2024/04/26/ut-austin-pro-palestinian-protest-charges-dropped-against-all-57-people-arrested/73468467007/

All charges have been declined against the 57 people arrested in connection to the Wednesday pro-Palestinian protest at the University of Texas.

The Travis County attorney's office said all 57 arrests, which were all criminal trespassing charges, lacked probable cause.

County Attorney Delia Garza, whose office handles misdemeanor cases, told the American-Statesman on Thursday that her office agreed with defense lawyers that there were "deficiencies" with the probable cause arrest affidavits, which are the documents filled out by law enforcement to justify an arrest. At that time on Thursday, 46 of the 57 had charges declined.

I know my first comment in this thread was trying to be funny but I appreciate what others have been posting about this especially with regard to what really happened. 

The powers that be gave The University and the State a black eye.  I know there are folks that are applauding the crackdown here but as a centrist Boomer, it's at best, utterly embarrassing.  

I am assuming that all 57 arrested can take civil action against the State and University.  The powers that be that punched first better buckle get ready to get hit back.  I see the 'Vote of no-confidence' document getting circulated.  Even if nothing comes of that, I don't see how Hartzell survives long term.  

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6 minutes ago, Captainant said:

I'm not sure what's such a laughing matter? Like yeah it's from the Big Lebowski. Hawr hawr hawr! Do you think that's really appropriate in the face an honest to God fascist action on UT's campus at the behest of its own president?

Or you could frame that exact same thing in a way that wasn't outrage and was making fun of Hartzell being a fluffer of the fascists or something else that uses more than 1% of the brainpower you have and is just pooped out raw emotion on a keyboard. 

I'm not saying it's funny, I'm saying the way surly in particular can and has framed stuff that is serious in the past is with a lot of irreverence with an underlying tone of seriousness and gravity that isn't lost on the posters. 

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14 minutes ago, Skipper said:

Yall need to go back and read @immamac's post about actually attempting to interject some humor instead of constant outrage posting. Maybe someone else will get it.

Maybe you could be, you know, funny.

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2 minutes ago, BonzoMontreaux said:

I am assuming that all 57 arrested can take civil action against the State and University.  The powers that be that punched first better buckle get ready to get hit back. 

I’ve been wondering about this. Can one of the lawyers opine on whether the University and/or State can be subject of lawsuit on these actions or can they stand behind sovereign immunity? 

Now, since we’re supposed to interject humor into our posts, here’s a gif of a guy getting kicked in the nuts.

kick in nuts GIF

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I found it humorous because like Abbott, the Big Lebowski is also a noodle leg limp dick asshole. At least he lost his spine fighting in Korea, Hotwheels' story is far less compelling.

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1 minute ago, immamac said:

Or you could frame that exact same thing in a way that wasn't outrage and was making fun of Hartzell being a fluffer of the fascists or something else that uses more than 1% of the brainpower you have and is just pooped out raw emotion on a keyboard. 

I'm not saying it's funny, I'm saying the way surly in particular can and has framed stuff that is serious in the past is with a lot of irreverence with an underlying tone of seriousness and gravity that isn't lost on the posters. 

Heard, and I'll try to calm down a bit, but it's hard when a good chunk of this thread is people trying to distract from what happened at Texas by introducing what happened on the east or west coast, or just straight up applauding the action by abbott and hartzell. 

1 minute ago, immamac said:

I mean it used to be so goofy that we had to use a [SERIOUS] label at the end of Shaggy/beginning of surly because people were goofing TOO much. 

Yeah but those were fun shenanigans. These shenanigans are cruel and tragic. 

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7 minutes ago, BonzoMontreaux said:

I know my first comment in this thread was trying to be funny but I appreciate what others have been posting about this especially with regard to what really happened. 

The powers that be gave The University and the State a black eye.  I know there are folks that are applauding the crackdown here but as a centrist Boomer, it's at best, utterly embarrassing.  

I am assuming that all 57 arrested can take civil action against the State and University.  The powers that be that punched first better buckle get ready to get hit back.  I see the 'Vote of no-confidence' document getting circulated.  Even if nothing comes of that, I don't see how Hartzell survives long term.  

***The powers that be that punched first better buckle up and get ready to get hit back...

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2 minutes ago, immamac said:

I'm not saying it's funny, I'm saying the way surly in particular can and has framed stuff that is serious in the past is with a lot of irreverence with an underlying tone of seriousness and gravity that isn't lost on the posters. 

I've been using the internet since 1989 when my folks got compuserve. I've been on the internet way, way longer than you. I've been on all sorts of boards, I quite literally grew up alongside chan culture and all that shit, when stuff like something awful was the nexus of the internet and fark was actually a thing. The default mode of the internet for 30 fucking years has been aggressive irreverence, "being serious sucks," whyucare bullshit. Perhaps, get this, we're fucking tired of that shit that you seem to still find so funny? Perhaps, just perhaps, it's not outrage culture that has lead us to where we are, but rather this worship on "funny above all else"? Because, honestly, what you find funny isn't. The vast amount of humor on this site is cringe-ass 40 year old tough guy bullshit.

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Just now, Captainant said:

Heard, and I'll try to calm down a bit, but it's hard when a good chunk of this thread is people trying to distract from what happened at Texas by introducing what happened on the east or west coast, or just straight up applauding the action by abbott and hartzell. 

Yeah but those were fun shenanigans. These shenanigans are cruel and tragic. 

I think that's part of the issue, and maybe what @Thetexashammer and @Rex Kramer are somewhat alluding to, but the words escape them. A lot of this could be disagreement, but at least it was fun to read or participate in. It's turned into a slog of strong opinions and lines in the sand, which for threads like this one are really anti-surly idealistically. The CR topic for this is actually where that stuff should happen and traditionally has happened, because it's about positing what should happen to fix/rectify with public policy etc. 

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14 minutes ago, High Plains Drifter said:

 

Tents?! They were setting up TENTS!!??!11!??!!11

 

How about the cops walk over, and inform the tent people that tents are not allowed, and that they need to be taken down. I bet if they asked nicely, 90% of those tents would be taken down. 

And the 10% that refuse, write them a ticket and confiscate the tents. Do we really need to arrest people for setting up tents?

 

 

What if they were sex tents? 

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3 minutes ago, WelfareBuysMyWeed said:

I've been using the internet since 1989 when my folks got compuserve. I've been on the internet way, way longer than you. I've been on all sorts of boards, I quite literally grew up alongside chan culture and all that shit, when stuff like something awful was the nexus of the internet and fark was actually a thing. The default mode of the internet for 30 fucking years has been aggressive irreverence, "being serious sucks," whyucare bullshit. Perhaps, get this, we're fucking tired of that shit that you seem to still find so funny? Perhaps, just perhaps, it's not outrage culture that has lead us to where we are, but rather this worship on "funny above all else"? Because, honestly, what you find funny isn't. The vast amount of humor on this site is cringe-ass 40 year old tough guy bullshit.

That's not what this site was or is. I explicitly said it's irreverence with the serious undertones which is specifically different from whatever collegehumor/4chan bullshit label you are trying to stick on surly. The vast majority of humor on this site isn't cringe-ass 4 year old tough guy bullshit, but there is plenty of that because it's a bunch of 35-55 year olds on the internet. 

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5 minutes ago, WelfareBuysMyWeed said:

I've been using the internet since 1989 when my folks got compuserve. I've been on the internet way, way longer than you. I've been on all sorts of boards, I quite literally grew up alongside chan culture and all that shit, when stuff like something awful was the nexus of the internet and fark was actually a thing. The default mode of the internet for 30 fucking years has been aggressive irreverence, "being serious sucks," whyucare bullshit. Perhaps, get this, we're fucking tired of that shit that you seem to still find so funny? Perhaps, just perhaps, it's not outrage culture that has lead us to where we are, but rather this worship on "funny above all else"? Because, honestly, what you find funny isn't. The vast amount of humor on this site is cringe-ass 40 year old tough guy bullshit.

The vast amount of posters are cringe-ass 50 year old guys so we’re actually doing pretty well. 

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40 minutes ago, Captainant said:

And the escalation of fuckery and punishment of students for speaking the wrong speech continues

https://www.kut.org/education/2024-04-26/ut-austin-says-arrested-protesters-including-students-will-not-be-allowed-on-campus

Protesters arrested for trespassing at UT Austin this week will not be allowed back on campus despite charges against them being dropped, a university spokesperson confirmed Friday.

The spokesperson did not respond to questions about how this could impact students who have final exams and plan to graduate in a couple weeks. A spokesperson told KUT the Office of the Dean of Students determines penalties for students, including how long a ban is in place.

Fifty-seven people were arrested Wednesday during pro-Palestinian protests on the university campus. UT Austin said roughly half of those arrested were students.

That includes Jumana Fakhreddine, a senior and pre-med student. The 22-year-old said she was arrested Wednesday afternoon, about 10 minutes after joining the protests. Fakhreddine said four to five officers lifted her off her feet and put her in zip-tie handcuffs.

The charges against her were dropped and she was released from jail just after midnight Thursday. She said since her release, no one from UT Austin has contacted her. She found she was not welcome on campus through a flyer circulated by the university.

“We thought that because the charges got dropped, we would be able to go to campus because we felt like that proved we didn’t do anything wrong,” she said. “But I guess that’s not true.”

UT Austin warned students before the protest that they could be disciplined for participating.

Fakhreddine said she's not sure if she'll be able to take her organic chemistry final on campus next week. She doesn’t need the class to graduate, she said, but does need it to apply to medical school.

“Initially I was angry about the whole thing, but I’m sad about how an educational institution is treating its students,” Fakhreddine said. “It just feels like such a betrayal.”


Complete and total bullshit. The University continues to embarrass me and every alumni of the school. 

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3 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

Forgive the newbie question, but I really don't want to wade through 17 pages.  What are the Cliff's Notes as to why people here are upset? 

 

Sides. One side is right and one side is wrong. No middle ground. Ever

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3 minutes ago, Welshy said:

Suspicious Monkey GIF by MOODMAN

Well, that clears it up.  Thanks for the thoughtful response.  

Not all of us follow the news 24/7...

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Especially on draft day

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