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46 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I'm pretty sure a large majority of the public is confident about vaccine science, but here we are.

When the rest fuck around and come down with preventable shit that wipes them or their families out, they might learn, while we foot the bill.

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In the meantime I’m sure insurance will charge us all for shit that used to be covered, because it’s no longer recommended by the cdc. Yay. 

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9 minutes ago, drt said:

In the meantime I’m sure insurance will charge us all for shit that used to be covered, because it’s no longer recommended by the cdc. Yay. 

They’ll be bending over backward trying to get us to get vaccinated because they don’t want the resulting hospital bills.  The bills from hospitalized kids of dumbass parents would get big really fast,

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They’ll be bending over backward trying to get us to get vaccinated because they don’t want the resulting hospital bills.  The bills from hospitalized kids of dumbass parents would get big really fast,

If there is a way for 1) insurance companies to profit more, 2) for them to pay off members of the Regime/family to secure 1), and 3) fuck over the people…that’s the way it will go.
Nothing, not one thing, is happening here with the best intetests of actual people in mind.
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2 hours ago, Brisketexan said:


If there is a way for 1) insurance companies to profit more, 2) for them to pay off members of the Regime/family to secure 1), and 3) fuck over the people…that’s the way it will go.
Nothing, not one thing, is happening here with the best intetests of actual people in mind.

They won't profit if their dumbass customers are risking their kids ending up in the hospital because they wouldn't get a simple vaccine, or just as bad, the dumbass parents are listening to RFK Jr and giving their kids too much Vitamin A or ivermectin or whatever the fuck the yokels think is not Big Pharma.

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On a serious note, one of the things kicked around during Covid was lower insurance premiums or bills for those that were vaccinated but still got sick enough to require significant care or hospitalization. I could see something like that happening. 

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I’m waiting for insurance companies mandate vaccines and if you’re not vaccinated, you’re not covered. At the same time, they don’t have to cover those vaccines anymore. Win win for them.

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no.  let the unvaxxed die.  if you're not willing to help yourself, why should anyone else?  if you think shoving a gallon of ivermectin up your ass will cure whatever you got, I say go for it.  just don't come crying when it didn't work.

fuck them.  and their kids.  we've been floating the morons for too long.  the Hippocratic oath made sense when a poke from a rusty nail would kill you.  we're beyond that.  if you choose to go backward, fuck you.

this is Darwin's world, and we're just living in it.  

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3 minutes ago, Goofyboy said:

I’m waiting for insurance companies mandate vaccines and if you’re not vaccinated, you’re not covered. At the same time, they don’t have to cover those vaccines anymore. Win win for them.

Big pharma won't balk?

3 minutes ago, wd40 said:

 

this is Darwin's world, and we're just living in it.  

Darwin is lazy AF.

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On 6/5/2025 at 11:58 AM, troph said:

so here's the deal on COVID vaccine injuries - they are real.  I'll give you the straight dope on the situation...

- COVID vaccine injuries occur at a greater prevalence than other vaccine injuries. unfortunately, the MAHA movement has extrapolated that this means all vaccines are bad. terrible conclusion.

You very clearly have looked into Long Covid much more than I, so no comment from me on that, but do you have research supporting your statement that Covid vaccine injuries occur at a prevalence than other vaccine injuries? And by prevalence do you mean absolute number or rate?

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34 minutes ago, Serak The Preparer said:

You very clearly have looked into Long Covid much more than I, so no comment from me on that, but do you have research supporting your statement that Covid vaccine injuries occur at a prevalence than other vaccine injuries? And by prevalence do you mean absolute number or rate?

From a cardiologist that is a long Covid researcher. It’s still rare and unless you have a risk factor the vaccine is a good idea. Though human immune responses are shifting for the better. For many covid is becoming less of an issue. 

Long Covid clinics don’t recommend or advise against the vaccine for those recovering or recovered from long covid either. Outcomes are all over the map for long covid sufferers, some it helps their condition, some it does nothing (but provide immunity) and some their long covid nosedives back into harsher symptoms.  Not sure if there is a study I can find to support, I’m sure it’s out there. 

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Conflating Malone and kulldorf is pretty wild. ACIP getting a turnover is a good thing. That list is not full roster but like 10% total batshit crazy, 10% marginal, and 80% reasonable takes. So par for rfk to date. 

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On 6/10/2025 at 9:23 AM, troph said:

Long Covid clinics don’t recommend or advise against the vaccine for those recovering or recovered from long covid either.

Under the prior administration you literally had the head of the FDA endorsing unapproved indications for vaccines precisely along these lines. Just crazy unhinged shit on multiple levels. And people wonder why they are dealing with the blow back from total nonsensical public health strategy where we told people that they would lose their jobs if they didn't do things with very limited epidemiological basis reality. Because the lawyers wanted to argue about what OSHA could do instead of just grounding in really basic immunology. ACIP needs a total turnover. You simply didn't pay attention during the pandemic if you think otherwise.   

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https://arstechnica.com/health/2025/06/yep-rfk-jr-appoints-anti-vaccine-advocates-to-cdc-vaccine-panel/

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Yesterday, Kennedy pledged that none of the new ACIP members would be "ideological anti-vaxxers." However, the list of today's appointees includes Robert Malone, who falsely claims to have invented mRNA vaccines and has spent the past several years spreading misinformation and conspiracy theories about them.

Speaking at an anti-vaccine rally in 2022, Malone spread dangerous falsehoods about mRNA COVID-19 vaccines: "These genetic vaccines can damage your children. They may damage their brains, their heart, their immune system and their ability to have children in the future. Many of these damages cannot be repaired."

Troubling list

Malone aligned with the anti-vaccine crowd during the pandemic and has become a mainstay in conspiratorial circles and an ally to Kennedy. He has claimed that vaccines cause a "form of AIDS," amid other nonsense. He has also meddled with responses to the measles outbreak that erupted in West Texas in January. In April, Malone was the first to publicize news that a second child had died from the highly infectious and serious infection, but he did so to falsely claim that measles wasn't the cause and spread other dangerous misinformation.

In a newsletter post earlier this week, Malone proclaimed: "Some people still believe that the term anti-vaxxer is a pejorative. I do not—I view it as high praise."

Malone is just one of the eight names released today. Another is Martin Kulldorff, one of the co-authors of the widely criticized Great Barrington Declaration, which called for letting COVID-19 spread largely unabated. Health experts called it "unethical."

Vicky Pebsworth is also on the list, as well as on the board of the National Vaccine Information Center, one of the nation’s oldest anti-vaccine groups that promotes the false claim that vaccines cause autism.

Kennedy also appointed Retsef Levi, who has penned articles alleging dangers of COVID-19 vaccines, including a flawed 2022 article that was later corrected and an unpublished article co-authored with COVID-contrarian and Florida Surgeon General Joseph Ladapo.

The other four appointees are Joseph R. Hibbeln, a psychiatrist; Cody Meissner, a pediatrician; James Pagano, an emergency medicine physician; and Michael Ross, a professor of obstetrics and gynecology.

The appointments are likely to increase concern that federal vaccine recommendations will be corrupted and lead to Americans losing access to lifesaving vaccines.

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Firemans4Horn said:

A little early in the day for Anna Stacy to be binge drinking. Don’t you normally keep vampire hours?

Humorous that folks who think health professionals want to put bad things in our bodies drink so much alcohol. 

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Guys, my current diversified portfolio is only getting like 7% yearly returns. I don't think it is maximizing the value. My uncle that lives in a trailer says to scrap it and move everything into this hot new fund run by Mernie Badoff. What y'all think? 

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2 hours ago, Anastasis said:

Conflating Malone and kulldorf is pretty wild. ACIP getting a turnover is a good thing. That list is not full roster but like 10% total batshit crazy, 10% marginal, and 80% reasonable takes. So par for rfk to date. 

For those posters that require this format for it to land with them, here is Michael Mina saying basically same thing. The roster of the remaining majority should come quickly. ACIP has a meeting on the books for late June. 

 

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Did my semi-annual wellness bloodwork a few weeks back (A1c, triglycerides, etc.). Added MMR antibody tests because they’re cheap and why not.  Add the data point and uses it for a booster decision.

All3 came back very low on antibodies.  My mother has always said she had us vaxxed as children and I believe her.  She isn’t stupid.

So either the vax wore off or I’m one of those lucky people “immune” to the vax.*. Consulted my PCP and he gave me permission to get boosted.  MMR booster scheduled for next week hope I don’t die.  Probably will.  Wish me luck.

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Good luck.

 

Personally, I trust doctors more than politicians (and health insurance companies.) Here’s yet another reason why:

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A document the Department of Health and Human Services sent to lawmakers to support Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s decision to change U.S. policy on COVID vaccines cites scientific studies that are unpublished or under dispute and mischaracterizes others.

One health expert called the document "willful medical disinformation" about the safety of COVID vaccines for children and pregnant women.

https://www.npr.org/2025/06/13/nx-s1-5431935/rfk-hhs-covid-vaccine-schedule-faq

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