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30 minutes ago, Crockett said:

I actually do think BYU can beat Tech this Saturday and I'm putting my money where my mouth is by traveling to be there. We have a very good QB that is young but has gotten better every game. Our starting, NFL-bound RB was basically out at Tech (even though he played some snaps he was not healthy enough to play). 

I don't know if BYU is good enough to win it all. There are some very good teams out there. 12 teams get a shot. I think we have done enough and have a resume good enough to at least deserve that shot, even if we drop the CCG. Does the 5th best SEC team have a chance to win it all? Let's settle it on the field versus hypothetical eye tests. How often do the experts get the rankings and winners wrong? All. The. Time. 

My deal is that you are applying a standard to BYU that is not really being applied to anyone else. BYU is a P4 team, willing to compete in the NIL era, and with some NFL talent on the roster. We are 22-3 over the last two seasons in a P4 league. We are not the BYU of the independent or MWC eras. 

all well and good

you get your shot

we watched you fail miserably in lubbock

tceh is faster, larger or stronger than the brethren at 18 of 22 starting positions

maybe this time you will bring your fabled international support which you claimed was going to show up at jones and was confined to a single block at the top of the endzone

the intertrons say you have 342000 brethren in Texas and 85000 in North Texas

this is your chance once and for all to put to bed for all time any questions about your international support

the deathstar seats 80000

shirley you can take over half of the 3 lower decks, solid blue and white

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Posted
33 minutes ago, South Austin said:

Win or lose against BYU, I'm still hoping for a Tech v. aggy first round matchup in which aggy closes out its season with losses to Texas and Tech.  If Texas doesn't make it in, that would still be a satisfying CFP for me.

if the brethren win it's possible for 8 tceh to host 9 aggy

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the committee could do that for us in the same way the sec fixed last year's aggy game at pyle

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8 minutes ago, NoRagrets said:

Bottom line, how can you say a team that has beaten 3 top ten teams isn’t a top ten team itself?

Vanderbilt is #14, but point taken.

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7 minutes ago, JBJ said:

Vanderbilt is #14, but point taken.

meehhhh, they were top 10 when you beat them, and the only reason they're not anymore is because you beat them. 

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3 minutes ago, UncleBuck said:

meehhhh, they were top 10 when you beat them, and the only reason they're not anymore is because you beat them. 

Now I have to figure out if Oregon gets credit for a top 3 win against PSU, but tOSU and IU get no credit for beating unranked PSU. 

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5 minutes ago, UncleBuck said:

meehhhh, they were top 10 when you beat them, and the only reason they're not anymore is because you beat them. 

They're also one of those teams that have gotten washed by the only good teams they've played all year so it's hard to tell if they even belong in the top 20.

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4 minutes ago, UncleBuck said:

meehhhh, they were top 10 when you beat them, and the only reason they're not anymore is because you beat them. 

That's not always the case, though, which is why using ranking at the time of the game is dumb.  LSU did not beat a top 5 Clemson.

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59 minutes ago, Iceman said:

Of course ole #47 might give us his best Steve Young or Marc Wilson impression this Saturday.  I doubt it. 

What if he does an impression of this guy?

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Monday - Bobby

Bobby wants big change to the CFP system, scheduling, and revenue distribution:

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Monday

 

Bobby Burton

By Bobby Burton

  • 2 hours ago
 

If you’re going in to an office this morning, and happen to have an Aggie co-worker, make sure to grin and tell them hello. 😉

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Texas now waits for the CFP committee’s Tuesday night rankings release.

Neither the AP nor the Coaches Poll gave much credence to the Horns’ win over Texas A&M. Texas jumped just a couple of spots in both. I’m not sure how that happens.

Sure, almost every team (except the Aggies) ahead of them won. But it would seem that soundly defeating the no. 3 team in the nation should cause some of the committee members to re-think their original bias against Texas. Remember one line of committee thinking was that Texas only beat OU because John Mateer was injured. But we all know that’s not really the case. Just look at Mateer’s three interception performance against hapless LSU on Saturday.

Even though I believe the win over A&M should move Texas up precipitously, I don’t think it actually will.

ESPN’s Heather Dinnich has been so accurate with her CFP predictions that she clearly has a little birdie on the inside feeding her information. And Dinnich, as of this morning, says Texas is out.

Disappointing. But not surprising.

Texas will play in a good bowl game against a good opponent. Arch and the guys will get an extra 15 days of practice which will help Texas further decide who they need to focus on retaining for next year and what pieces of the puzzle they absolutely must address.

We’ll wait for official word on Tuesday night. But I have to tell you, if Texas doesn’t make it, there needs to be a major re-think across college football.

Texas will have beaten two teams that got in and played the no. 1 seed more closely than any other team all season long. Not a single Big 10 team even got within two scores ALL YEAR.

It’s time to do away with the automatic qualifiers. It’s time to do away with BYU thinking they’d actually have a winning record within the SEC. It’s time for Notre Dame to decide if they want to play a real schedule or not. It’s time for the SEC and Big 10 to close ranks.

Have them each play 10 conference games, play one intra-conference game and make the others beg for scraps.

Let the proposed NIL revenue share be based on conference or school revenue, not the average revenue of all FBS schools.

If we’re going to be “equitable”, make it equitable based on who the actual best teams are.

And I’ve got news for you. It ain’t North Texas and Tulane.

It’s Texas. It’s the team that beat OU by three scores, the team that beat the Aggies on Friday by double digits.

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4 minutes ago, Pancho said:

 

Now, let’s talk about the elephant in the room. And by elephant, I mean the 9-3 Texas Longhorns. Texas is the only three-loss team that will get legitimate CFP consideration, and we’ll see just how close the Longhorns can get to the actual field. I’ve got them ranked just behind 11-1 BYU and ahead of 10-2 Miami. Texas would be two spots out from the field right now, if the committee matches my projection.

Texas has two wins over teams currently ranked in the committee’s top eight — and will have three wins over top-15 teams when we see the new rankings on Tuesday. That is an impressive collection of wins and the win over Vanderbilt should finally come into play, with the Longhorns jumping ahead of the Commodores due to the head-to-head result. I also think the committee will need to make a point not to penalize Texas too harshly for its seven-point loss to No. 1 Ohio State; that’s the closest anyone has played the Buckeyes all year. Obviously, the loss to 4-8 Florida is the bad loss dragging down the Texas resume, but I do think Steve Sarkisian is correct that a 10-2 record with that loss to the Gators is still probably good enough to be in the field. It’s very similar to Alabama’s bad loss to Florida State, if we’re being honest. But a third loss coming in a big, challenging nonconference game is the one the committee needs to address. I think it needs to treat that loss carefully — and kind of like half a loss, if that makes sense — because if Texas is unfairly penalized for going out and playing Ohio State it may discourage other schools from playing nonconference games like that in the future.

Ultimately, I think the three top-15 wins are enough to vault Texas up from No. 16 to No. 12. I’d wait and see what happens with BYU in the Big 12 championship game, but there’s definitely space for the Longhorns to slide up one more spot if the Cougars lose to Texas Tech again, particularly if it’s in lopsided fashion. Blowouts are likely part of the chaos that Texas will need to root for next weekend. I also think the committee would enjoy having another buffer team between Notre Dame and Miami to avoid having to deal with that Week 1 head-to-head result — which is why I’ve moved Texas ahead of the Hurricanes, even though Miami has done nothing wrong down the stretch.

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Posted
8 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

They're also one of those teams that have gotten washed by the only good teams they've played all year so it's hard to tell if they even belong in the top 20.

That doesn't really matter, they're 14 still, and were in the top 10 in November when you beat them. 

None of it means Texas should be in the playoffs, but it's a beyond a quality win by nearly everyone's measure. 

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12 minutes ago, JBJ said:

That's not always the case, though, which is why using ranking at the time of the game is dumb.  LSU did not beat a top 5 Clemson.

I was not making a blanket statement. I am specifically talking about 2025 Vandy, and that the only reason they're currently not in the top 10 is because Texas beat them. 

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37 minutes ago, dieucla98 said:

We're all rooting for people to change their minds about the importance of certain losses vs wins. I'm hoping an extra week of contemplation will do the trick. 

Probably not enough, but like I said, it's what we got. 

I think beating a 3rd top-10 team does give the committee some pretty good ammo to have us jump them and maybe re-evaluate whether we should have ever been behind Vanderbilt in the first place. I think we end up likely end up 11, but booted by Virginia and G5. 

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Just now, closetojumping said:

Sarkisian went on the SEC morning show today and doubled down on both Texas deserving to be in the playoffs and reconsidering the OOC schedule going forward. He basically said, with the SEC going to 9 conference games, playing a major OOC foe is pointless with the way those losses are currently viewed. He took a number of thinly veiled potshots at the 2 loss teams ahead of Texas, with which I agreed.

I don't expect Texas to cancel the home games versus OSU and Michigan, since Texas has already played both on the road. I will be surprised if Texas does not cancel the Notre Dame series. Someone needs to take the step of deplatforming ND and giving them little recourse. They will continue to weasel their way into the CFP until conferences uniformly stop scheduling them. The ND schedule next season is the absolute worst joke in CFB heading into the 2026 cycle. It's fucking sickening. 

I hate the premise of the OOC being comprised of 3 cupcakes including the boring likes of Rutgers, Purdue, and Wake Forest but it feels like that's where this debacle is headed. Auerbach is being really optimistic about the committee. I don't expect bravery to come from a committee of admins and old coaches. 

Sark is making me like him more if he’s calling out the committee like that. Either you want these matchups or you don’t. And if you’re gonna punish us, we won’t play them. (Which I’d hate)

I like calling them out and forcing them to think a little harder about Texas.  Make them squirm 

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17 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

They're also one of those teams that have gotten washed by the only good teams they've played all year so it's hard to tell if they even belong in the top 20.

I mean, they just crushed a decent Tennessee team. They played Alabama pretty well too before giving up that late TD. There aren't 20 teams better than Vanderbilt. That offense is legit brutally efficient, and Pavia's improv skills are deadly. 

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3 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Sark is making me like him more if he’s calling out the committee like that. Either you want these matchups or you don’t. And if you’re gonna punish us, we won’t play them. (Which I’d hate)

I like calling them out and forcing them to think a little harder about Texas.  Make them squirm 

If Florida had played a little closer to its talent level and had another win or two (and less getting blown out), I think we'd have a much better shot of getting in. It isn't necessarily the third loss that kills us. It is the third loss being to a team that played like garbage outside of a couple games. I still think Notre Dame should be out.

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1 minute ago, Js1 said:

Sark is making me like him more if he’s calling out the committee like that. Either you want these matchups or you don’t. And if you’re gonna punish us, we won’t play them. (Which I’d hate)

I like calling them out and forcing them to think a little harder about Texas.  Make them squirm 

Auerbach's positioning is interesting because of who signs her paychecks. There has to be some squirm with the networks, especially NBC. If Texas just says "fuck you" and pulls out of all future difficult OOC games, the other big programs who still schedule similarly would happily follow suit. The programs are all locked in with their rev shares from the networks for the time being. The networks? Losing a game with 16 million pairs of eyeballs watching those ads and trading that in for the duds vs studs changes outcomes. Take away 20 others that post good numbers for dogshit FCS matchups and shit gets real. 

My one source of hope in regard to Texas having a shot is the idea that the execs can easily see this playing out like that and therefore applying pressure to the talking heads and the committee. These are all humans who are imperfect and money (or the removal of it) changes everything. 

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4 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

I mean, they just crushed a decent Tennessee team. They played Alabama pretty well too before giving up that late TD. There aren't 20 teams better than Vanderbilt. That offense is legit brutally efficient, and Pavia's improv skills are deadly. 

Can we not do the SECSECSEC thing? Tennessee is fucking terrible and you know it. They got blown out by Alabama. I'm just saying Vandy is not playoff caliber, that's all.

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1 minute ago, Brian Fantana said:

Can we not do the SECSECSEC thing? Tennessee is fucking terrible and you know it. They got blown out by Alabama. I'm just saying Vandy is not playoff caliber, that's all.

Neither is blOU, but here we are.

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1 minute ago, Brian Fantana said:

Can we not do the SECSECSEC thing? Tennessee is fucking terrible and you know it. They got blown out by Alabama. I'm just saying Vandy is not playoff caliber, that's all.

Vandy is not playoff caliber and Tenn is bad. I do agree with that. Vandy is a fringe playoff team only because the refs suck off Pavia so hard. 

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I agree that we'll keep Ohio State and Michigan. Completely agree that we should drop Notre Dame. We should not be in the business of allowing a team that has no conference structure to fight through to get credit when not winning games against big boy conferences. NBC would hate to lose the Texas game as Notre Dame isn't exactly killing it in the ratings unless they're playing an SEC team. 

Maybe we get to 12 which gives the committee cover of well we had to put Tulane/North Texas in because of our rules that all the conferences agreed to. 

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Just now, The_Great_Hornsby said:

Vandy is not playoff caliber and Tenn is bad. I do agree with that. Vandy is a fringe playoff team only because the refs suck off Pavia so hard. 

Yeah and none of that is to say Texas' win over them is any less impressive, I just think calling them a top 10 team is goofy.

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Just now, mdmost said:

I agree that we'll keep Ohio State and Michigan. Completely agree that we should drop Notre Dame. We should not be in the business of allowing a team that has no conference structure to fight through to get credit when not winning games against big boy conferences. NBC would hate to lose the Texas game as Notre Dame isn't exactly killing it in the ratings unless they're playing an SEC team. 

Maybe we get to 12 which gives the committee cover of well we had to put Tulane/North Texas in because of our rules that all the conferences agreed to. 

If we get to 12 this week, I think a BYU blowout loss gets us in. Barely. And the reason would be - 3 top 10 wins and cannot punish Texas for going on the road to play Ohio State.  

Posted
Just now, Guadaloopy said:

Nothing new will be said for the next five days, but this thread will keep on truckin'.

Not true. There will tons of bitching tomorrow evening. 

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6 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

Sarkisian went on the SEC morning show today and doubled down on both Texas deserving to be in the playoffs and reconsidering the OOC schedule going forward. He basically said, with the SEC going to 9 conference games, playing a major OOC foe is pointless with the way those losses are currently viewed. He took a number of thinly veiled potshots at the 2 loss teams ahead of Texas, with which I agreed.

I don't expect Texas to cancel the home games versus OSU and Michigan, since Texas has already played both on the road. I will be surprised if Texas does not cancel the Notre Dame series. Someone needs to take the step of deplatforming ND and giving them little recourse. They will continue to weasel their way into the CFP until conferences uniformly stop scheduling them. The ND schedule next season is the absolute worst joke in CFB heading into the 2026 cycle. It's fucking sickening. 

Agree with this.

Assuming Texas doesn’t get in this year, the committee will have loudly stated that this is nothing more than an exercise in counting losses, at least for the SEC, Big 10 and Notre Dame. If that is the case, why would we dramatically increase the odds of suffering another loss when there is minimal upside. 

Notre Dame is the most egregious over ranking, but there is also no reason Alabama should be ranked ahead of us, other than our extra loss to Ohio St. We both have wins over top 5 teams. We both have a shitty loss to a shitty team from Florida. We both have wins over Vandy. We even have an extra top 10 win against a team that beat them. And yet…

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2 minutes ago, mdmost said:

I agree that we'll keep Ohio State and Michigan. Completely agree that we should drop Notre Dame. We should not be in the business of allowing a team that has no conference structure to fight through to get credit when not winning games against big boy conferences. NBC would hate to lose the Texas game as Notre Dame isn't exactly killing it in the ratings unless they're playing an SEC team. 

Maybe we get to 12 which gives the committee cover of well we had to put Tulane/North Texas in because of our rules that all the conferences agreed to. 

If we are at 12 and Bama looks outmatched against UGA. The pressure will be immense to put us in the playoffs over them. I dont think the committee will do that to themselves. They probably put us behind Miami as a buffer to avoid that situation. I predict we come in at 13 with Vandy at 14 and they go, hey look, we gave you credit for the OSU game and the head to head win over Vandy. Placing us at 12 is leaving the door open for us. 

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1 minute ago, Js1 said:

If we get to 12 this week, I think a BYU blowout loss gets us in. Barely. And the reason would be - 3 top 10 wins and cannot punish Texas for going on the road to play Ohio State.  

I don’t think we will be 12 tomorrow. 13 or 14, but I won’t be surprised if Texas is selected as the last team in on the final day

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4 minutes ago, Js1 said:

If we get to 12 this week, I think a BYU blowout loss gets us in. Barely. And the reason would be - 3 top 10 wins and cannot punish Texas for going on the road to play Ohio State.  

That would only move us to 11, which won’t get the job done. You’d need a Georgia blowout of Alabama and us to also be moved ahead of them as a result. Or the committee to wake up and realize Notre Dame has done nothing to deserve a top 10 ranking (lol). In other words, we’re done.

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2 minutes ago, Reynolds Woodcock said:

That would only move us to 11, which won’t get the job done. You’d need a Georgia blowout of Alabama and us to also be moved ahead of them as a result. Or the committee to wake up and realize Notre Dame has done nothing to deserve a top 10 ranking (lol). In other words, we’re done.

Bingo. Not holding out any hope that we make it in.

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2 minutes ago, Reynolds Woodcock said:

That would only move us to 11, which won’t get the job done. You’d need a Georgia blowout of Alabama and us to also be moved ahead of them as a result. Or the committee to wake up and realize Notre Dame has done nothing to deserve a top 10 ranking (lol). In other words, we’re done.

Meh. FSU was held out of the 4 team playoff when they were undefeated 

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16 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

Sarkisian went on the SEC morning show today and doubled down on both Texas deserving to be in the playoffs and reconsidering the OOC schedule going forward. He basically said, with the SEC going to 9 conference games, playing a major OOC foe is pointless with the way those losses are currently viewed. He took a number of thinly veiled potshots at the 2 loss teams ahead of Texas, with which I agreed.

I don't expect Texas to cancel the home games versus OSU and Michigan, since Texas has already played both on the road. I will be surprised if Texas does not cancel the Notre Dame series. Someone needs to take the step of deplatforming ND and giving them little recourse. They will continue to weasel their way into the CFP until conferences uniformly stop scheduling them. The ND schedule next season is the absolute worst joke in CFB heading into the 2026 cycle. It's fucking sickening. 

I hate the premise of the OOC being comprised of 3 cupcakes including the boring likes of Rutgers, Purdue, and Wake Forest but it feels like that's where this debacle is headed. Auerbach is being really optimistic about the committee. I don't expect bravery to come from a committee of admins and old coaches. 

We absolutely need to keep the Ohio St and Michigan games on the schedule if for anything it gives us three straight home games to start the seasons in 26 and 27 and then hopefully our SEC opener will be at home in 2026 to give us four straight home games.  

We should be in a much better position to beat Ohio St next season in Austin, especially considering it will be our second game of the season where we will have a chance to get the rust out against Texas State the week before and those Ohio St players will melt in the mid September heat regardless of kickoff time.   

But yes the later three schools should be considered in the future for non conference.   Go ahead and put Colorado, NC State, and Syracuse on the list for a check box P4 OOC game. One year deals much like the other paycheck games for UTSA, UTEP and Texas State.    This way we stay home for the first three weeks much like aggy and UGA play that game almost every year.   

 

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The problem for the networks is the these big OOC matchups are the platform for launching the whole season. It’s not just eyeballs, it’s the grand opening with a bounce house and face painting  

 

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Posted
Just now, Nueces River Rat said:

We absolutely need to keep the Ohio St and Michigan games on the schedule

Agreed. Finish out those series because fans have been looking forward to them 

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Posted (edited)
16 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

Can we not do the SECSECSEC thing? Tennessee is fucking terrible and you know it. They got blown out by Alabama. I'm just saying Vandy is not playoff caliber, that's all.

I didn't do the SECSECSEC thing. Tennessee isn't a great team. But it isn't terrible. I'm trying to understand the universe where getting crushed by Bama makes a team bad. Is that somehow worse than losing to Arizona State? And I honestly don't know what playoff caliber means in the current format. Vanderbilt is a better team than whoever will get in from the G5 and the ACC. It is a better team than BYU. Honestly, Vanderbilt's resume isn't that different from Tech's. It crushed a bunch of mediocre teams, including wins over a couple fringe top 25 teams (Missouri and Tenn).  The primary difference is that we haven't yet seen Tech match up against teams with the talent level of Alabama or Texas. And I'm not saying Tech doesn't deserve a playoff spot or isn't a good team. I'm saying your dismissal of Vandy of odd. The stats, adjusted or otherwise, have them as one of the best offenses in college football and the most efficient. And they have a legit Heisman contender at QB. 

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The committee starts by nominating 6 and the top 4 are ranked and the two remaining are locked into the next round with 4 new teams nominated. This happens 4 times to get the top 16 teams.

Any optimism for Texas getting near the 10 spot comes in round 3 this week as we were obviously at the back end of round 4 last week. 

Round 1

tOSU, Indiana, Georgia, Texas Tech, Oregon, Ole Miss/a&m

Ranked

1. tOSU

2. Indiana

3. Georgia

4. Tech

Round 2

Oregon, Ole Miss, a&m, OU, Notre Dame, Alabama

Ranked

5. Oregon

6. Ole Miss/a&m

7. Ole Miss/a&m

8. Oklahoma

Round 3- 

Notre Dame, Alabama, BYU with Miami/Utah/Vandy/Texas fighting over the final 3 nominations. 

9. Notre Dame

10. Alabama

11. BYU

12. Miami/Utah/Vandy/Texas

Round 4. Miami, Utah, Vandy, Texas, USC, Michigan

13-15 Three of Miami/Utah/Vandy/Texas

16. USC

The remainder of the top 25 will be ranked in groups of 3 in rounds 5-7. 

 

Source

Spoiler

1.

Each committee member will create a list of the 30 teams he or she believes to be the best in the country, in no particular order. Teams listed by three or more members will remain under consideration. At the conclusion of any round, other teams can be added to the group of teams under consideration by a vote of three or more members.

2.

Each member will list the best six teams, in no particular order. The six teams receiving the most votes will comprise the pool for the first ranking step. This is known as the “listing step.”

3.

In the first ranking step, each member will rank those six teams, one through six, with one being the best. The best team in each member’s ranking will receive one point; second-best, two points, etc. The members’ rankings will be added together and the four teams receiving the fewest points will become the top four ranked teams. The two teams that were not ranked will be held over for the next ranking step.

4.

Each member will list the six best remaining teams, in no particular order. The four teams receiving the most votes will be added to the two teams held over to comprise the next ranking step.

5.

Steps No. 3 and 4 will be repeated for four rounds until 16 teams have been ranked.

6.

For the final three rounds of voting, the same process will take place during the listing step, but during the ranking step, only the three teams receiving the fewest points will become the next three ranked teams. In total, there will be seven rounds of voting; each round will consist of a “listing step” and a “ranking step.”

 

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This is the time of year when most of the teams suck because they either lose games or because they win games against teams that suck. Somehow, only around 4 teams belong in the top 10. Yet, we have to pick 7 teams to fill out a top 12. Quite the problem. 

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