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I’m with also Sark on this. He’s saying similar shit to Vandy HC. Shocker I know! 😱 It’s about the experience. It’s about the next 20 plus days for the team. Players can opt out and we’ve seen it all the time on every team. The team earned this bowl. Those who want to play deserve the opportunity. I get people are frustrated and it’s a lost season bc no CFP. But Texas and Vandy and other teams are taking the correct approach here. Notre Dame is just being a fucking bitch here. These top tier bowl games are not meaningless. They can be an effective recruiting tool. That’s just my opinion man. And we need the fucking practice and a chance to evaluate what we got going into next season and that’s the truth. We know dudes gonna portal or opt out or go NFL. We gotta evaluate what we have going into the portal shit. It’s our best tool to plug those upcoming holes. Jeez. Carry on. 🤘🏼 

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1 hour ago, Codaxx said:

I get this and it is completely valid to feel that way, but nobody involved with Texas is going to write Ant Hill a 13mm contract with 6mm signing bonus if he gets hurt. If I was his father, I am telling him to sit his ass on the bench. 

Should Texas have not played VY in 2004 season Rose Bowl game?

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1 hour ago, texasdago said:

...and if they have half a brain, they have insurance:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/15388893/2016-nfl-draft-prospect-jaylon-smith-collect-5-million-insurance-policy 

This is 2016 so I'm sure the policies are even better now...

 

He was headed for a potential all pro laden career, and that injury robbed him of it. He had a single season that was decent and otherwise sucked completely for the Cowboys and bowed out of the league unceremoniously. 

Probably cost him $50+ million in salary and many years of a career. Only reason it wasn't far worse is because Jerry Jones is a top 5 dumbass in all of sports. 

Now that's a worst case scenario and unlikely to happen, but again, intelligent people think in terms of calculated risk. 

I know many of the old school fans here like to think in terms of the days when players made jack shit and went to sell houses in the off-season. They'd play for the hell of it because they weren't really risking anything even if the game was meaningless. That was the terrible bowl era that existed for far far too long. 

This new era actually gives more than 1 or 2 meaningful games in December/January. Is still not great because of the unbalanced conferences and weight placed on record and not quality of opponents, but it's slowly getting there.  At least now the people getting screwed have 2 or 3 losses and not 0 or 1. The sport has moved past the need for meaningless bowl games. The $$$ on the table has blown past the level where playing for meaningless games makes any sense for players going to the draft, or even your starting QB who is returning next year. Why risk Arch, who has taken a beating this season, behind a line that will be missing starters who are leaving for the draft? 

If your job told you if you took the rest of the year off you'd get several million dollars next summer, but if you worked the rest of the year (at no pay) there's even a 1 percent chance you wouldn't get the money, none of you would choose to work. 

You're expecting these players to think with your stupid fan brain. And unfortunately that pressure causes some of them to make bad decisions. That's why the coaches need to protect them and do what is right for them. And right for the team. This game is meaningless. 

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Just now, Nicole44 said:

I’m with also Sark on this. Shocker I know! 😱 It’s about the experience. It’s about the next 20 plus days for the team. Players can opt out and we’ve seen it all the time on every team. The team earned this bowl. Those who want to play deserve the opportunity. I get people are frustrated and it’s a lost season bc no CFP. But Texas and Vandy and other teams are taking the correct approach here. Notre Dame is just being a fucking bitch here. These top tier bowl games are not meaningless. They can be an effective recruiting tool. That’s just my opinion man. And we need the fucking practice and a chance to evaluate what we got going into next season and that’s the truth. We know dudes gonna portal or opt out or go NFL. We gotta evaluate what we have going into the portal shit. It’s our best tool to plug those upcoming holes. Jeez. Carry on. 🤘🏼 

The opting out question is so stupid. SEC pools post-season money. Vanderbilt has been a beneficiary of that socialist payout for years. They would definitely hear from Sankey if they attempted to opt out. They would likely see fines at a minimum. There is huge difference between being ND and being in a conference. 

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1 minute ago, Nivek said:

Should Texas have not played VY in 2004 season Rose Bowl game?

Or should we have just opted out of the amazing bowl game a few years against Georgia since they didn’t want to be there. No one told Bevo it was just a meaningless bowl game. It was one of the best and most memorable games of the last decade for Texas. I just don’t understand what people are saying or talking about here. The committee told us the previous Sunday we had no chance in the CFP and reconfirmed it yesterday. It was over last week. People need to get over it being a shock and move the fuck on. We have real holes we need to plug before we raid the portal. We have to play against a decent enough team to evaluate where we are in order to plug the right damn holes. 

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13 minutes ago, Nivek said:

Should Texas have not played VY in 2004 season Rose Bowl game?

Vince was not draft eligible after the 2004 season. I really do not understand how this is applicable to draftable players skipping the game. The game has changed so much that this is really just inapplicable. 

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30 minutes ago, GreenspointTexas said:

I want 10 wins. Doesnt every other Texas fan feel the same?

 

 

oh wait, i forgot. The same bitches who hated that we had their own network would rather us forfeit the bowl game

Give me:

10 wins
A win over a helmet school
End the season winning 3 in a row, including ranked aggy and Michigan

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14 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

But Texas and Vandy and other teams are taking the correct approach here. Notre Dame is just being a fucking bitch here. These top tier bowl games are not meaningless.

All 3 are wrong.

Of course you take the game and the practices. Under no circumstances should Arch or any locked-in starter play a snap in the game.

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16 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

I’m with also Sark on this. He’s saying similar shit to Vandy HC. Shocker I know! 😱 It’s about the experience. It’s about the next 20 plus days for the team. Players can opt out and we’ve seen it all the time on every team. The team earned this bowl. Those who want to play deserve the opportunity. I get people are frustrated and it’s a lost season bc no CFP. But Texas and Vandy and other teams are taking the correct approach here. Notre Dame is just being a fucking bitch here. These top tier bowl games are not meaningless. They can be an effective recruiting tool. That’s just my opinion man. And we need the fucking practice and a chance to evaluate what we got going into next season and that’s the truth. We know dudes gonna portal or opt out or go NFL. We gotta evaluate what we have going into the portal shit. It’s our best tool to plug those upcoming holes. Jeez. Carry on. 🤘🏼 

I agree with this, but man you can tell it is a shit sandwich for Sark to go to a bowl rather than the CFP. 

Posted (edited)
41 minutes ago, GreenspointTexas said:

I want 10 wins. Doesnt every other Texas fan feel the same?

Yes. I also want a championship and a trophy.

Sure it might be a giant Cheeze-it but damn it it's a trophy.

I realize this is irrational but I cannot help it.

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4 minutes ago, JFKFC said:

All 3 are wrong.

Of course you take the game and the practices. Under no circumstances should Arch or any locked-in starter play a snap in the game.

Disagree on Arch. Arch needs to play games. He is a first year starter and still has a ways to go.

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Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, Valmy77 said:

Arch needs to play more games. Every game he gets more confident. If he gets injured well he gets injured. That's football.

And if Simmons gets hurt well at least it happened in December. 

Nobody who needs to worry about the draft or an imminent pro career will be playing.

And heck maybe some of our returning starters who are resting injuries might not play either. It is a chance to see who our starters for next year will be.

Yeah blow out a ACL or Achilles for a game that doesn’t matter and miss all next season. Smart choice. Do a the NFL play exhibition games with their high profile players at the end of the regular season for those who don’t make the playoffs? With NIL and these athletes being paid it’s just not a smart business decision to play certain players or even the game 

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4 minutes ago, Vertigo said:

I agree with this, but man you can tell it is a shit sandwich for Sark to go to a bowl rather than the CFP. 

He helped make the shit sandwich when his team lost to Florida.  

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Just now, BurntOrange&White said:

Yeah blow out a ACL or Achilles for a game that doesn’t matter and miss all next season. Smart choice 

Can't wrap everybody in bubble wrap. Same shit could happen in practice or any scrimmage. 

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42 minutes ago, GreenspointTexas said:

I want 10 wins. Doesnt every other Texas fan feel the same?

 

 

oh wait, i forgot. The same bitches who hated that we had their own network would rather us forfeit the bowl game

Why what does 10 wins that include a bowl game do? Nothing. If you want 10 wins then get it in the regular season. If you don’t make the playoff then the season is a waste anyway 

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Just now, South Austin said:

He helped make the shit sandwich when his team lost to Florida.  

Yep. If you want to win the national title you cannot lose games. Especially 3.

Yes some shittier teams made it ahead of us but we don't have much room to complain. We could have easily lost a few more as well.

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Just now, BurntOrange&White said:

Why what does 10 wins that include a bowl game do? Nothing. If you want 10 wins then get it in the regular season. If you don’t make the playoff then the season is a waste anyway 

Yes. It does nothing. It only makes us feel better. I do care though. I want us to win. I probably shouldn't but I do.

I think the best you could say is it is good propaganda in a sport still dominated by vibes.

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Just now, Valmy77 said:

Yes. It does nothing. It only makes us feel better. I do care though. I want us to win. I probably shouldn't but I do.

I think the best you could say is it is good propaganda in a sport still dominated by vibes.

The sport it transactional. Winning a bowl game isn’t going to affect recruiting, portal, or which coaches leave or get fired. 

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3 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Yeah blow out a ACL or Achilles for a game that doesn’t matter and miss all next season. Smart choice. Do a the NFL play exhibition games with their high profile players at the end of the regular season for those who don’t make the playoffs? With NIL and these athletes being paid it’s just not a smart business decision to play certain players or even the game 

Should he also sit out Texas State, UTSA, Arky, Miss State, and Florida next year?

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Players are competitors and want to play and win. It’s in their blood

Fans are overreactionary and scared of their own shadows 

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Posted
1 minute ago, BurntOrange&White said:

The sport it transactional. Winning a bowl game isn’t going to affect recruiting, portal, or which coaches leave or get fired. 

Yeah. I used to think it mattered on some level but I think history has demonstrated it really doesn't. Which is unfortunate. I used to get pretty fired up for every random Bowl Game. That 1994 Sun Bowl was awesome, we all lost our shit we were so glad to win and Priest Holmes was awesome. But those days are over.

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Just now, Js1 said:

Players are competitors and want to play and win. It’s in their blood

Fans are overreactionary and scared of their own shadows 

I have talked to former UT players who assured me they all want to play and win far more than we want to watch them play and win.

I believe it.

But I understand business decisions.

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Posted (edited)
7 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

The sport it transactional. Winning a bowl game isn’t going to affect recruiting, portal, or which coaches leave or get fired. 

I'm pretty sure Concepcion attended aggy bowl game practices which helped him decide to join aggy when he got in the portal. So yeah extra practices can help with that and deciding who gets more playing time next year. Sark specifically addressed that in his media availability yesterday. 

Edit: yep

https://247sports.com/college/texas-am/longformarticle/why-kc-concepcion-wanted-to-catch-passes-from-texas-am-qb-marcel-reed-play-for-complete-aggies-252277450/

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5 minutes ago, Valmy77 said:

Yep. If you want to win the national title you cannot lose games. Especially 3.

Yes some shittier teams made it ahead of us but we don't have much room to complain. We could have easily lost a few more as well.

Once again only a few teams in the country were wire to wire. Most of the teams in the playoff should have lost more but didn’t. Close games happen - you win some and lose some. 

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1 minute ago, Hookem10 said:

Once again only a few teams in the country were wire to wire. Most of the teams in the playoff should have lost more but didn’t. Close games happen - you win some and lose some. 

I don't disagree except I just don't think we had a good enough season to be indignant at being left out. Disappointed? Sure. But this wasn't some legendary Texas team that got screwed. This was a pretty good Texas team that probably wasn't going to win the national title anyway.

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For the people saying they should play because they are paid. NFL starters don’t play every snap in exhibition games. This is absolutely an exhibition game and should be treated as such. 

If a player is moving on to the NFL, I have no problem with them opting out. I don’t have any issue if Sark decides to manage the number of snaps for any player returning in 2026.

For the folks comparing this to previous teams playing in the Rose and Sugar Bowls, those comparisons aren’t relevant. You may as well be reminiscing about DX Bible and leather helmets. When the playoffs expanded to 12, the only games that matter are the 12 regular season games and the playoffs. Arguably, the CFP has also made conference championship games close to irrelevant as well with their placement of Alabama yesterday.

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3 minutes ago, Valmy77 said:

I don't disagree except I just don't think we had a good enough season to be indignant at being left out. Disappointed? Sure. But this wasn't some legendary Texas team that got screwed. This was a pretty good Texas team that probably wasn't going to win the national title anyway.

I thought we were final four bound as the ceiling. For sure 

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16 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Yeah blow out a ACL or Achilles for a game that doesn’t matter and miss all next season. Smart choice. Do a the NFL play exhibition games with their high profile players at the end of the regular season for those who don’t make the playoffs?

Comparing any of this to the NFL is generally stupid, but you brought it up so let’s go there.

Yesterday, the 2 win Titans who have been eliminated from playoff contention for weeks played the 3 loss Browns. The Titans started and played Cam Ward, the first pick in the draft who they are heavily invested in. The Browns played Myles Garrett, who has a $160 million dollar contract. 

What in your head makes this any more or less than an “exhibition game”?

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3 minutes ago, UncleSonny said:

Comparing any of this to the NFL is generally stupid, but you brought it up so let’s go there.

Yesterday, the 2 win Titans who have been eliminated from playoff contention for weeks played the 3 loss Browns. The Titans started and played Cam Ward, the first pick in the draft who they are heavily invested in. The Browns played Myles Garrett, who has a $160 million dollar contract. 

What in your head makes this any more or less than an “exhibition game”?

Regular season games dude....they still matter. Your example is shit

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For individual players who are transferring or going to the NFL next year, opting out is completely understandable.

But if you’re coming back to be on this team next year, opting out is a really good way to tell the rest of your teammates that you’re just more important than they are. Whether you actually are more important or not is irrelevant, that’s just a shit message to your teammates. It’s shit culture.

I wish we made the playoffs. We controlled our own destiny and then let it go. It sucks. Move on. Beat Michigan.   

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2 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Regular season games dude....they still matter. Your example is shit

Why. Explain to me why a game scheduled during the regular season matters when neither team is playing for the possibility of a championship 

Posted
24 minutes ago, South Austin said:

He helped make the shit sandwich when his team lost to Florida.  

More importantly, we were 0-2 against BYE this season. That is the real headscratcher. 

Posted
21 minutes ago, Valmy77 said:

I don't disagree except I just don't think we had a good enough season to be indignant at being left out. Disappointed? Sure. But this wasn't some legendary Texas team that got screwed. This was a pretty good Texas team that probably wasn't going to win the national title anyway.

The narrative is different if we played UL Monroe instead of OSU. 

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44 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Ah yes, let’s reach back 20+ years to an era that no longer exist to try and prove a point 

It's just as valid as you reaching back into your ass to pull out shitty opinions that have no basis in fact to try and prove a point.

Posted
37 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Players are competitors and want to play and win. It’s in their blood

Fans are overreactionary and scared of their own shadows 

Scared Baby GIF

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Posted
46 minutes ago, Vertigo said:

I agree with this, but man you can tell it is a shit sandwich for Sark to go to a bowl rather than the CFP. 

It’s a shit sandwich. All true UT fans wanted to make the CFP. But that’s done. I am disappointed too. Sark bears some responsibility for not having the team ready to play our first SEC team after a bye week. And for our offseason. I will die on this hill it’s a shit sandwich but he helped to make that sandwich. 🥪 my cutting the crust off of the bread for everyone won’t change it. 😂 I’m frustrated too. But quite honestly as well as we have played at times this year I don’t see us in the MNC beating some of these teams. I think we’d have mixed results in the playoffs. Maybe we win one game but I don’t see us advancing beyond the quarterfinals Jmo. We will never know. And that’s what sucks. I would have liked to have seen what we could do. Maybe we would have shocked everyone. Hopefully we can have a No Excuses Fuck Errbody year in 2026 and win the whole fucking thing! 🤘🏼

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3 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

 

Nobody asked for your paralegal opinion. Adults are talking here.

True story, until you posted in the Dad thread about having a kid I genuinely assumed you were a 13 year old boy. 

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Posted
Just now, UncleSonny said:

True story, until you posted in the Dad thread about having a kid I genuinely assumed you were a 13 year old boy. 

Boy is being generous there 

Posted
1 minute ago, hornmpa96 said:

For the people saying they should play because they are paid. NFL starters don’t play every snap in exhibition games. This is absolutely an exhibition game and should be treated as such. 

If a player is moving on to the NFL, I have no problem with them opting out. I don’t have any issue if Sark decides to manage the number of snaps for any player returning in 2026.

For the folks comparing this to previous teams playing in the Rose and Sugar Bowls, those comparisons aren’t relevant. You may as well be reminiscing about DX Bible and leather helmets. When the playoffs expanded to 12, the only games that matter are the 12 regular season games and the playoffs. Arguably, the CFP has also made conference championship games close to irrelevant as well with their placement of Alabama yesterday.

Yep. Arch Simmons, etc should play a series or two each, other statters maybe a quarter or 2. Mainly backups  the rest

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