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11 minutes ago, DaggerHorns said:

I know that we don’t want any escalation or any other increases in conflict but I want so badly to fly a dozen jets over the Black Sea eliminating every Russian ship in sight.

We'd do it with unmanned underwater drones and there would be virtually no evidence left.  But I like the sentiment, and can certainly get on board.  

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We didn't see enough video to conclude what exactly it was.

But they had it under drone surveillance so they had something big planned for it, maybe planted (but if they can make the Russians think it's a missile strike it'll probably scare the Russians a bit and make them spread What Air Defense Doing out a little more.

Either way, this sums it up:

 

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18 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

We didn't see enough video to conclude what exactly it was.

But they had it under drone surveillance so they had something big planned for it, maybe planted (but if they can make the Russians think it's a missile strike it'll probably scare the Russians a bit and make them spread What Air Defense Doing out a little more.

Either way, this sums it up:

 

Either way works for me, I've been wondering if the Ukrainians would use Semtex and remote detonate buildings as they saw Wagner or MOD troops in buildings like this.  Semtex is cheap, easy to come by and very stable.  It would also be easy to hide.  

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Playing Prigozhin off against Gerasimov is brilliant.  Knocking Wagner off the table reduces a potential threat to Putin's power (and killed a bunch of undesirable Russians in Putin's eyes). If it fails and can be pinned on Gerasimov, well he can take the fall for the entire last 13 months.

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2 hours ago, Neonmoon said:

Another 147,000 we’re just announced to be called up to the meat grinder. 
 

Putins sole strategy is to outlast Europe’s money with continuous manpower 

"Quantity has a quality all it's own"

 

But Ukraine has, or rather had, a population north of 40 million.  So, if they're willing to fight to the end we will see if Russia has the will/ability to burry them under a pile of bodies.

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2 minutes ago, locodos said:

"Quantity has a quality all it's own"

 

But Ukraine has, or rather had, a population north of 40 million.  So, if they're willing to fight to the end we will see if Russia has the will/ability to burry them under a pile of bodies.

Despite the 3 or 4 talking points @atomheartbevo will repeat for the 700th time in response to your post, Russia most certainly has the “will” to keep the bodies piling up.

They have more bodies to throw at this war, but most importantly, a Russian is worthless. They inherently understand they have no value. You’ve heard that sentiment when mothers talk about the money they’ll receive if their son dies. What they’re saying is “my son is worthless, at least in death he’ll have some value.”

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Just now, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

more bodies to throw at this war

I want to see what happens when they start rounding them up in the cities. The hinterlands are not an endless resource. Depopulate the rural areas and someone still has to y'know get shit done. St Petersburg and Moscow have not been tapped. Let's see how popular that is.

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6 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

I want to see what happens when they start rounding them up in the cities. The hinterlands are not an endless resource. Depopulate the rural areas and someone still has to y'know get shit done. St Petersburg and Moscow have not been tapped. Let's see how popular that is.

They just sat back and let Stalin imprison and murder millions of their fellow citizens for decades.

There will be no popular uprising within Russian society. Get that fantasy out of your head.

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10 minutes ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

Despite the 3 or 4 talking points @atomheartbevo will repeat for the 700th time in response to your post, Russia most certainly has the “will” to keep the bodies piling up.

They have more bodies to throw at this war, but most importantly, a Russian is worthless. They inherently understand they have no value. You’ve heard that sentiment when mothers talk about the money they’ll receive if their son dies. What they’re saying is “my son is worthless, at least in death he’ll have some value.”

They can have the will as long as they stay away from Moscow and St Petersburg like @cactusflinthead mentioned above, but some of those outer regions are sparsely populated so those spigots are going to be turned off at some point.

Does it even matter? They rounded up 300,000 new conscripts last fall and still couldn't fucking take Bakhmut after all these months, and the latest 150,000 they rounded up are going to be even less trained and less equipped. 

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3 hours ago, Schulz2.0 said:

 

 

3 hours ago, Neonmoon said:

Another 147,000 we’re just announced to be called up to the meat grinder. 
 

Putins sole strategy is to outlast Europe’s money with continuous manpower 

The 2023 Russian Bride Mail Order catalog is gonna look like a full set of encyclopedias (Gen Z- those are books)

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4 minutes ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

They just sat back and let Stalin imprison and murder millions of their fellow citizens for decades.

There will be no popular uprising within Russian society. Get that fantasy out of your head.

Stalin had the Baltics, Ukraine, Belarus, Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan, the 'Stans, to pull from/lean on. Putin doesn't have that luxury.

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7 minutes ago, bolverk said:

He also hinted at his support for the break up of the EU

That’s a lie. 
 

8 minutes ago, bolverk said:

Last year, he consistently posted tweets implying that Europe would run out of natural gas this winter, leading to strife in the western alliance.

We got lucky with a warm winter. And the Europeans did a good job topping off supplies at a high cost. Will still be worth following for a couple more years until more supply comes online. 

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We missed this little milestone a few days ago.  This is a staggering number, and given how their enlisted basic training/advanced training works (relies heavily on officers and on upper/advanced training being completed at their permanent unit), and how much junior officers handle the roles that NCOs in the West do, this continues to show how degraded Russian forces are.  We lost 2,400 total Americans, officer and enlisted, in Afghanistan over 20 years, and they've lost nearly that many just in officers in 13 months).

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11 minutes ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

Are you talking about the war where they racked up 10 million+ soldiers KIA?

Was talking more about how the various factions/ethnic groups/etc. were purged, played against each other, etc., but sure, we can toss in WWII. And if we want to talk about WWII, Stalin had 194 million to pull from.  Putin has to pull from 50 million less (and maybe even smaller - as Zeihan and others have noted, we don't have accurate population accounts because it's a state secret in Russia).

Putin sent 200,000 troops into Ukraine in February of 2022.  Ukraine, a country of well over 40 million.

Putin mobilized 300,000 additional conscripts last fall, and yet Russia couldn't do shit over the past few months.

Do you see where this is going?  Another 150,000 won't mean shit.

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