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Russian state media is showing American soldiers on their knees for Putin. This was a massive Trump failure and a humiliating day for the United States

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16 minutes ago, Satchel said:

Russian state media is showing American soldiers on their knees for Putin. This was a massive Trump failure and a humiliating day for the United States

Just following the lead of their Commander in Chief who spends plenty of time on his knees for Pooty Poot.

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4 hours ago, Hitch said:

I would love that, but I fear it’s only a matter of time until Russia controls Donetsk. 

That would only happen if the United States fails to support its ally. Which is likely because a bunch of morons support a pedofile for President 

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23 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

That would only happen if the United States fails to support its ally. Which is likely because a bunch of morons support a pedofile for President 

The bigger issue is personnel. Russia is just grinding them down. 

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5 hours ago, B00M said:


Russia will have to collapse, the only question is when.

 

5 hours ago, Parliament said:

This is the way.

 

4 hours ago, Saint Tacky said:

More dead Russians. That's the only means to that end that I can foresee.

 

In before 1800

We do gotta remember the Russians are a tough people.  Dumb, but tough.  Whole lot more of them gotta die before something changes.  Not sure we can get that far.

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On 8/4/2025 at 5:30 PM, Gatorubet said:

it also means that any Russian military patrols have to be on the lookout for bands of armed deserters who might light them up in an ambush if they venture into the wrong areas.  

in World War II, American deserters often wound up working for organized crime in the black market, using their weapons to hijack red ball express trucks for arms and ammunition medicine, etc.      

The people back home in World War II never heard about this, because it was not a good look.   I can only assume that they are doing this exact same thing in Russian controlled Ukrainian territories.  i’m pretty sure that brand new Russian soldiers sent to the meat grinder have very little desire to get in fire fights with experienced combat troops who have deserted with their weapons.

And Ost Battalions and (former) Nazi units from Baltic states, who never were really willing, were terrors on both Germans and Russians on the Eastern Front.

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2 hours ago, Parliament said:

 

 

We do gotta remember the Russians are a tough people.  Dumb, but tough.  Whole lot more of them gotta die before something changes.  Not sure we can get that far.

Their economy isn’t as tough as their people. Keep pressuring India and China. Trump is stumbling over something great there with his “secondary tariffs” or whatever he’s calling them. Russia doesn’t produce fucking anything. Stop the oil exports and it all falls apart. 

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2 hours ago, Hitch said:

The bigger issue is personnel. Russia is just grinding them down. 

It’s not an escalation for NATO troops to go into Ukraine. This shouldn’t be an individual country Russia can threaten. We either stop this in Ukraine and step up NATO’s drone game in the process or we stop it in NATO territory after Russia has finally subjugated Europe’s best military in Ukraine. This isn’t a hard decision. 

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53 minutes ago, B00M said:

Their economy isn’t as tough as their people. Keep pressuring India and China. Trump is stumbling over something great there with his “secondary tariffs” or whatever he’s calling them. Russia doesn’t produce fucking anything. Stop the oil exports and it all falls apart. 

Well and then the economy fails and imposes austerity on the Russian people, who will just shrug and swill some more methanol

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2 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

And Ost Battalions and (former) Nazi units from Baltic states, who never were really willing, were terrors on both Germans and Russians on the Eastern Front.

Vlasov’s Army was an interesting one. But all these folks knew one or the other was going to kill them so they got out in front. 

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8 hours ago, Saint Tacky said:

More dead Russians. That's the only means to that end that I can foresee.

In before 1800

It’s gotta be a combination of things. Don’t forget that a lot of the Russian men and their families who opposed being conscripted and who had the means fled Russia, and those are the ones who would have been in the streets fighting a draft. Many of the ones left behind are either okay with it, are poor as shit, or were dumb enough and didn’t think it would happen to them.

I’d say these things:

  1. Conscription of the Moscow/St. Petersburg group in large enough numbers
  2. More infrastructure hit, to the point it seriously impacts all Russians.  Oil and gas and electrical.  
  3. Moscow has to be hit as hard as Kyiv.  Put some drones into the Kremlin.  

That’s a start as far as I’m concerned.  Ukraine is slowly accomplishing #2.

Right now, your typical Russian doesn’t feel too affected by the war.  The Kremlin on fire, rolling blackouts, etc. would put Putin’s public image of being in control to the test.

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