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Texas athletes petitioning University to replace "The Eyes of Texas" and to no longer require athletes to sing it

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On 6/27/2020 at 5:11 PM, mdmost said:

Hmm. So maybe a bunch of athletes speaking their mind can make a difference. 

 

This is great.  It's a clear kick in the balls to the 'shut up and get CTE for me' crowd.  Beautiful. 

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4 hours ago, ImissWallyPryor said:

If only the meaning of You was intended to be something offensive. 

Some people get really hung up on pronouns these days!

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Posted (edited)

We might just be done with college football:

1869, first collegiate football game.  Princeton v. Rutgers.  Neither school had a black student admitted to their respective institution.

Wish I hadn't found that.

Edited by SaucyJack

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So Wescott knew he was far too stupid to rebut scipio so he hired his brother to do it? Oh and his brother's rebuttal was just verbal diarrhea with a lot of words.

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This might be a bad time to point out that Jackie Robinson was not actually the first black player in Major League Baseball. We should stick to just killing one sport at a time, after all. But I can't help myself. 

If Moses Fleetwood Walker can't get a fair hearing, why should anyone else?

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On 6/27/2020 at 4:29 PM, USNALonghorn said:

This is silly. The term “civil war” refers to any intrastate armed conflict. America is not the only nation in the history of mankind to witness such a phenomenon.

Intrastate war is on its way. It has a nice nonoffending ring to it.

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1 minute ago, CfRhTxStBobcats said:

Intrastate war is on its way. It has a nice nonoffending ring to it.

All the trans pacifists say a big boo to you and your insensitivity!

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14 hours ago, NorthLoop said:

So Wescott knew he was far too stupid to rebut scipio so he hired his brother to do it? Oh and his brother's rebuttal was just verbal diarrhea with a lot of words.

Yeah but WELL ACKSHUALLY did you knowAmerica stole Texas from Mexico???

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Yeah but WELL ACKSHUALLY did you knowAmerica stole Texas from Mexico???


Rebuttal by Llano’s brother:

I found your erudite response to be uncompelling. It was trite and lacked the necessary verbosity and gravitas that comes with conviction. [ 800 more words ]

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47 minutes ago, CurlyDumps said:

Yeah but WELL ACKSHUALLY did you knowAmerica stole Texas from Mexico???

No.  We stole it from the Apaches and Comanches.  They just allowed some Mexicans to live there.

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On 6/29/2020 at 12:12 PM, bullet said:

No.  We stole it from the Apaches and Comanches.  

who stole it from the Osages, Utes, and other less capable tribes.

 

Really, those Commanche had great technological aptitude they way they crept in at night and by morning all the earth and water was gone. 

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On 6/28/2020 at 11:54 PM, NorthLoop said:

So Wescott knew he was far too stupid to rebut scipio so he hired his brother to do it? Oh and his brother's rebuttal was just verbal diarrhea with a lot of words.

That beta cuck has been noticeably absent from BON recently. He's had his ass lit up repeatedly by a sizable amount of the BON community because he had been race baiting and click baiting for weeks. The backlash wasn't pretty, it was pathetic he had his brother who is an alum of UW write up one of the sorriest articles I've had the displeasure of reading in some time.

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This seems like a reasonable compromise, I'm just not sure how well kneeling to sing The Eyes in the concrete/aluminum stands will work.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/brian-jones-texas-football-can-repurpose-the-eyes-of-texas-into-an-anthem-of-accountability/
 

Good article....the following nit-pics notwithstanding:

The “performed in the ‘30’s by leering actors in blackface” seems to be an amalgamation of events...but nevertheless, he essentially says “move on.”

Secondly, it’s not a dang “fight song.”

Thirdly and most substantively, the “transformation” he calls for is actually (at least to my half-century of understanding) is exactly what the song has been for practically its entire history: about accountability of all associated with UT, and not about athletic opponents.

In any event....hopefully (at least to me) his opinion carries some weight.

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42 minutes ago, NeverMarryAStripper said:

Isn't kneeling a sign of subjugation by one's master?

 

43 minutes ago, NeverMarryAStripper said:

Isn't kneeling a sign of subjugation by one's master?

Slavery supporters are the new “Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon”.

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1 hour ago, MirrOlure said:


Good article....the following nit-pics notwithstanding:

The “performed in the ‘30’s by leering actors in blackface” seems to be an amalgamation of events...but nevertheless, he essentially says “move on.”

Secondly, it’s not a dang “fight song.”

Thirdly and most substantively, the “transformation” he calls for is actually (at least to my half-century of understanding) is exactly what the song has been for practically its entire history: about accountability of all associated with UT, and not about athletic opponents.

In any event....hopefully (at least to me) his opinion carries some weight.

Yeah, I noted those as well, but the overall tone was so positive I took the "forget it, he's rolling" approach.  

The point about the meaning of The Eyes of Texas being upon you and not being able to get away is an important one.  Like BJ, I didn't know the history, and always assumed that the meaning was that as a student/alum of UT you had an obligation and responsibility to uphold the values of the University and the State by being a good citizen and representative.  That would include, among other things, not being a racist POS.  I hope other former players come around to this point of view.

 

Edited by Duane Moore

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3 hours ago, Zeus said:

Has DKR been renamed yet?

Perfect time to do it with construction going on :)

Let's drag up those SI articles from 1973.

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2 hours ago, Duane Moore said:

This seems like a reasonable compromise, I'm just not sure how well kneeling to sing The Eyes in the concrete/aluminum stands will work.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/brian-jones-texas-football-can-repurpose-the-eyes-of-texas-into-an-anthem-of-accountability/

 

Be cool if BJ intended a subtle subliminal  message tied to a certain aggy in the following sentence: 

That offensive historic note certainly sullies the song, and I was ready to jettison it as well.”

Edited by 89Horn

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This is not very good, but the possibility was raised previously by another poster that we could keep the song and its attendant routines, the way the band plays it, etc. but change the words. 
The eyes of Texas are upon us
All the live long day
The eyes of Texas are upon us
Let liberty hold sway
Know that Texas stands for freedom
Toward bigotry holds scorn
The eyes of Texas are upon us
Till Gabriel blows his horn

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11 minutes ago, Bruno Sardine said:

This is not very good, but the possibility was raised previously by another poster that we could keep the song and its attendant routines, the way the band plays it, etc. but change the words. 
The eyes of Texas are upon us
All the live long day
The eyes of Texas are upon us
Let liberty hold sway
Know that Texas stands for freedom
Toward bigotry holds scorn
The eyes of Texas are upon us
Till Gabriel blows his horn

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9 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

My school administration is full of morons. 

There are some incredibly easy 'wins' that they should have already handed to the students - things that should have been done years ago, things that other schools are doing immediately.

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Texas is hands down the most liberal University in the south, If he truly thinks Texas doesn't support him then he won't be playing football anywhere. Respect him for standing up for what he believes though.

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1 minute ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

There are some incredibly easy 'wins' that they should have already handed to the students - things that should have been done years ago, things that other schools are doing immediately.

Like?

I am truly asking and not being sarcastic at all.

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1 minute ago, Rockethorn1978 said:

Like?

I am truly asking and not being sarcastic at all.

Renaming the buildings.  How fucking hard is it to announce that you're going to change the name so that its no longer named after someone who refused to teach black students?  Clemson did it.    Princeton is taking a fucking presidents name off of a building and we can't remove a teachers?

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1 minute ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

Renaming the buildings.  How fucking hard is it to announce that you're going to change the name so that its no longer named after someone who refused to teach black students?  Clemson did it.    Princeton is taking a fucking presidents name off of a building and we can't remove a teachers?

Makes sense. I haven't been following anything so wasn't sure what others have done. I guess my question is what will satisfy Overshown to come back to play again? 

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6 minutes ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

Renaming the buildings.  How fucking hard is it to announce that you're going to change the name so that its no longer named after someone who refused to teach black students?  Clemson did it.    Princeton is taking a fucking presidents name off of a building and we can't remove a teachers?

Agreed. Aside from the donations to BLM and "The Eyes," the other stuff should be a quick and simple decision.

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5 minutes ago, Saint Austin said:

Agreed. Aside from the donations to BLM and "The Eyes," the other stuff should be a quick and simple decision.

Correct.

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15 minutes ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

There are some incredibly easy 'wins' that they should have already handed to the students - things that should have been done years ago, things that other schools are doing immediately.

Exactly.

Texas dragging its feet on this issue fits the lazy culture of our school and alumni. We don’t care about winning. We care about talking about football. Let’s have some board meetings, hire a consultant firm, grill up some fajitas, pop a beer and talk about it. Then down the line, after we’ve already shown up late to the game, when can make a tweak or two, then we can buy the most expensive steak afterwards, and talk about how great we used to be.

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33 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

Exactly.

Texas dragging its feet on this issue fits the lazy culture of our school and alumni. We don’t care about winning. We care about talking about football. Let’s have some board meetings, hire a consultant firm, grill up some fajitas, pop a beer and talk about it. Then down the line, after we’ve already shown up late to the game, when can make a tweak or two, then we can buy the most expensive steak afterwards, and talk about how great we used to be.

Or they are not jerking their knees.

 

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4 minutes ago, Veerbone said:

Or they are not jerking their knees.

 

Oh so Clemson reaction was knee jerk? What's the possible fallout from these decisions? They are fucking no brainers dude. Fuck people like you. No one is saying do everything they asked, people are saying do things that are OBVIOUS and EASY wins. 

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