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Some vegan who is embarrassed because people found out about his eating disorder.  

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She gonna vote against the 3 month CR extension because it contains blanket Patriot Act reauthorization?

Probably many other reasons to vote no, but I doubt that AOCs tweet derails anything Nancy has already agreed to.

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I love her :):)

Background Info:

Amazon wanted $3B in subsidies to build an HQ in NYC. AOC helped shut down the effort to provide those subsidies.

Amazon is building there anyway.

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That's fucking amazing, I'm sure every dipshit centrist and Republican in here that criticized her will come back to eat crow.

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Amazon promised 25k jobs over 15 years, not right out of the gate you smooth brained. That's also their own wildly optimistic number

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Can't seem to delete a word, jfc

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1 hour ago, GSU&UT said:

Amazon promised 25k jobs over 15 years years, not right out of the gate you smooth brained. That's also their own wildly optimistic number

I was going to say, wasn’t that the number they used similarly to what most corporate beggars use when they are trying to get citizens on board with the subsidy. Rick Perry loved to do that. 

“Oh, it will bring 5000 jobs....” and then five years later it’s nowhere near that. 

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1 hour ago, GSU&UT said:

Amazon promised 25k jobs over 15 years years, not right out of the gate you smooth brained. That's also their own wildly optimistic number

Conservatives are fucking idiots and suckers when any capital siren sings his sweet song at them.

See: Scott Walker & Foxconn

(and countless other examples)

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25 minutes ago, Message Board User said:

AOC vs Trump Jr is going to be lit af

Hopefully he’ll have been shanked in prison by then. 

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4 hours ago, bad_teammate said:

 

I love her :):)

Background Info:

Amazon wanted $3B in subsidies to build an HQ in NYC. AOC helped shut down the effort to provide those subsidies.

Amazon is building there anyway.

Love her too. She has some very bright and innovative minds advising her. She is a force . . . for good. 

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42 minutes ago, Underdog said:

Hopefully he’ll have been shanked in prison by then. 

No, I want to see AOC shank him.

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5 hours ago, bad_teammate said:

 

I love her :):)

Background Info:

Amazon wanted $3B in subsidies to build an HQ in NYC. AOC helped shut down the effort to provide those subsidies.

Amazon is building there anyway.

How exactly did she help? That shit was way local. Her help was really only fox fixated on her, She has no say on whether amazon comes or doesn’t to LIC.  
 

edit: for the record, fuck the lic amazon deal. We all hated it. I called my reps, as did my friends/gf, and told them we were against the deal. No one here looked to aoc for shit. Attributing any part of the deal, good or bad, to aoc is just misinformed. 

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6 hours ago, bad_teammate said:

 

I love her :):)

Background Info:

Amazon wanted $3B in subsidies to build an HQ in NYC. AOC helped shut down the effort to provide those subsidies.

Amazon is building there anyway.

NYC does not want that HQ, but at least she, in small part, helped stop the handing out of free money to the company. That competition to decide who got them was just awful. She's my representative and I am proud of how she has handled herself her first year. Washington needs more young firebrands just like her.

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29 minutes ago, achooloco said:

How exactly did she help? That shit was way local. Her help was really only fox fixated on her, She has no say on whether amazon comes or doesn’t to LIC.  
 

edit: for the record, fuck the lic amazon deal. We all hated it. I called my reps, as did my friends/gf, and told them we were against the deal. No one here looked to aoc for shit. Attributing any part of the deal, good or bad, to aoc is just misinformed. 

She has no say, but she was vocal about the stupidity of it being located here and she did what she could to undermine financial incentives to Amazon. I applaud that. I would say the largest portion of credit goes to local politicians and people behind the scenes, but that does not make for a story anyone will read. She helped and that's good. 

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23 minutes ago, UpperWestside said:

She has no say, but she was vocal about the stupidity of it being located here and she did what she could to undermine financial incentives to Amazon. I applaud that. I would say the largest portion of credit goes to local politicians and people behind the scenes, but that does not make for a story anyone will read. She helped and that's good. 

Eh... I like her and think she has done fine this year (aside from the choice of bar earlier this year) but almost all Credit (not just largest portion)  goes to the locals. I personally Don’t really care for the story of how it looks but I do get your meaning. The news needs to seek a story in order to sell ads.

but “We” could have done it without her so she did help but she was tangential. Forcing her into the story is A Fox News agenda; and fuck them or buying into anything they say. she said it sucked, great, but This really has nothing to do with her, regardless of good or bad outcomes for lic/ASTORIA/sunnyside 

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21 minutes ago, achooloco said:

Eh... I like her and think she has done fine this year (aside from the choice of bar earlier this year) but almost all Credit (not just largest portion)  goes to the locals. I personally Don’t really care for the story of how it looks but I do get your meaning. The news needs to seek a story in order to sell ads.

but “We” could have done it without her so she did help but she was tangential. Forcing her into the story is A Fox News agenda; and fuck them or buying into anything they say. she said it sucked, great, but This really has nothing to do with her, regardless of good or bad outcomes for lic/ASTORIA/sunnyside 

I absolutely believe this adds to the Fox narrative against her. Fox is a horrifically evil news organization. What I like about her is that she just stands up for what she believes and does not back down when her party tells her to. She sticks to her guns. 

I live off of Ditmars. Even if her help was just .0001 in the effort to stop the city from handing Amazon billions I am thankful. I am thankful to every local, politician or citizen, who stopped that payment. It is better to just embrace everyone who is trying to do good vs. parsing out credit for victories on issues. 

And yes her bar choice could have been better. I do her job for a living, albeit in mid-town, but yes not the best choice by her. 

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31 minutes ago, UpperWestside said:

Have you visited Kansas?

Fuck no and I don’t plan to. My point is that look at these Great R states that offer all these tax benefits and companies are going we aren’t going there because no worth their shit will move their family there because it sucks.

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4 hours ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

I was going to say, wasn’t that the number they used similarly to what most corporate beggars use when they are trying to get citizens on board with the subsidy. Rick Perry loved to do that. 

“Oh, it will bring 5000 jobs....” and then five years later it’s nowhere near that. 

Source for that? Every large incentives deal I have ever worked on includes job requirements, salaries etc, within the abatement and or bond agreements that allow a clawback of the money if requirements aren’t met down the road. And they do get reviewed annually.

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4 hours ago, Enchubben said:

Source for that? Every large incentives deal I have ever worked on includes job requirements, salaries etc, within the abatement and or bond agreements that allow a clawback of the money if requirements aren’t met down the road. And they do get reviewed annually.

I was going off of memory as it related to the Texas Enterprise Fund but some links at the bottom are what I remember from the brouhaha. Yes, the incentives deals have requirements and clawbacks/penalties but would you agree that the enforcement of that would be dependent upon the rigor of the individual state or local agency in charge? I also believe that over time, oversight has gotten a lot better and municipalities have citizens with growing awareness that attracting businesses is a good thing, but that without enough of that oversight, the money might be better spent elsewhere.

The reason I mentioned TEF was how Perry very capably leveraged the grants with donations to his personal campaign fund. In some cases, companies did create a number of jobs, some companies even exceeded the number estimated and yes, some companies paid penalties after the TEF had a large audit in 2014, but overall, I did not believe it to be a wise use of taxpayer dollars.YMMV.

https://www.texastribune.org/2014/09/25/auditor-perrys-business-fund-doled-out-millions-wi/

https://www.sao.texas.gov/reports/main/15-003.pdf

https://www.nbizmag.com/magarticles/TexasEnterpriseFund.pdf

The article below was originally published in the AAS but that's behind a paywall, so this link has the reprint.

https://www.mercatus.org/commentary/enterprise-fund-gives-texans-money-their-competitors

 

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42 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

I was going off of memory as it related to the Texas Enterprise Fund but some links at the bottom are what I remember from the brouhaha. Yes, the incentives deals have requirements and clawbacks/penalties but would you agree that the enforcement of that would be dependent upon the rigor of the individual state or local agency in charge? I also believe that over time, oversight has gotten a lot better and municipalities have citizens with growing awareness that attracting businesses is a good thing, but that without enough of that oversight, the money might be better spent elsewhere.

The reason I mentioned TEF was how Perry very capably leveraged the grants with donations to his personal campaign fund. In some cases, companies did create a number of jobs, some companies even exceeded the number estimated and yes, some companies paid penalties after the TEF had a large audit in 2014, but overall, I did not believe it to be a wise use of taxpayer dollars.YMMV.

https://www.texastribune.org/2014/09/25/auditor-perrys-business-fund-doled-out-millions-wi/

https://www.sao.texas.gov/reports/main/15-003.pdf

https://www.nbizmag.com/magarticles/TexasEnterpriseFund.pdf

The article below was originally published in the AAS but that's behind a paywall, so this link has the reprint.

https://www.mercatus.org/commentary/enterprise-fund-gives-texans-money-their-competitors

 

I can’t speak for every individual state, but all the ones I’ve worked in are on a regular audit cycle each year. Once in these programs you typically have an annual requirement to file forms and if they aren’t received and/or you don’t indicate you qualify then they either remove you from the program or reduce benefit based on responses.  
 

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She rules.

AOC is not paying her "dues" to the Democratic Party and is instead giving (more) to progressive causes and challengers.

 

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Considering the source, I'm wondering if even though AOC confirmed it, it isn't as rancorous as Fox would have one believe.

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5 hours ago, ChickenSandwich said:

Hopefully she can officially split the Democratic Party and have her own radical party instead. 

If that happens Republicans will never lose again. Hope it doesn’t happen. 

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Uh oh, sounds like a Super PAC Hugo. Better let OpenSecrets know.

 

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On 12/6/2019 at 10:06 PM, High Plains Drifter said:

3 bil for 25k jobs?

Put your fucking hand back in your pocket bezos.

Yea. I just put pencil to paper, and that works out to roughly $125m per job.

There is also the myth that goes on in all boom towns that x number of jobs are moving to town, but it's more accurate to say that x number of people are moving into the boom town because the jobs won't go to the poor and uneducated.

Well done AOC. Somebody needs to stop this absurd cycle. I doubt that the local populace usually gets much out of it. 

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I love her too. She seems to be splitting the democratic party.

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as long it's  unified behind one candidate when the time comes and they stay away from third party candidates. 

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This is what the President had to say about her during his interview Friday. (from the transcript):

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AOC knows nothing. Poor student, poor everything and then she comes and she talks about the Green New Deal and all these poor fools. Say, oh, isn't it wonderful? Isn't it wonderful? But as I said last night in Ohio, I don't like talking about the Green New Deal. It's too early. I want to save it for about two weeks before because they may change their mind.

Like Trump, ignore the GND for a moment and take in his contempt not for AOC but for the poor in general. I get it, he has never made any attempt to hide that, but that his viewers will only attribute that contempt to AOC, poor 'misguided delusional liberal students' and GND supporters instead of the lower classes in general is amazing.

Oh, and if he has a mole in his campaign, someone get a copy of to whatever it is he is referring and have a counter op ready because his will be nasty.

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