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Fuck all of you in this fucking thread. I just got finished admonishing some moron on FB for jumping to conclusions without evidence, and then I have to come here and watch this shit play out over 4 pages from a bunch of people who are supposed to be smarter than the average FB rube. Pancho fucked up, but I’ll be goddamn if he didnt come back and own it, unlike other posters. He jumped to dangerous conclusions at a very dangerous time in America. And he didn’t verify facts. That sucks. Meanwhile the rest of you pile jumping fuckfaces are too busy flipping the bat as you trot repeatedly around the bases to show any kind of empathy and understanding as to why the guy is sensitive and prone to jumping to the worst fucking conclusions right now in America. Posting for patience and caution to wait for more details is absolutely the right thing to do. Doing it in the most hateful, caustic John Lawrence et al manner was unnecessary and just fucking shitty. Fuck you guys too. This could have been a good learning moment for everyone but instead you’ve just been being inhuman shits who are concerned more with being right than being helpful again shows the worst tendencies we all have on whatever political spectrum you lie upon. Fuck everyone in this fucking thread. do better cocksuckers. If you don’t there won’t be anything left of this country for anyone on either side. By the way it sucks that a mentally ill hispanic man might have hung himself. Not that anyone here gives a fuck about that anymore.28 points
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At least the guy who hung himself doesn’t have to read this thread.23 points
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I’m just warning y’all now, Brisket is going to see this thread and come in with a 3 or 4 paragraph soliloquy with a lot of “YOU KNOWS” and anecdotes that will make y’all regret piling on Pancho. He screwed up and he admitted it. We are all “glad” to hear this was not a murder and we “hope” the same is true for the men in California. Maybe it’s time to show a little grace.19 points
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Gundy wearing a shirt that reps a network that says BLM is a fraud is like a Southern Baptist preacher wearing a pro choice T-shirt. While not illegal, it's a wild lapse in judgement and it shows you don't know your audience. Stupid at best, malicious at worst.16 points
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apologies for the long post in advance. so i spent some time thinking about this before opining, because while i never liked that the alma mater was to the tune of "working on the railroad" i grew up with it being pretty special. i did not much know about its origins before recently, because, well, i just did not know. i was ignorant. and that's okay being ignorant because it is a mostly passive state of mind. one simply does not know what one does not know. however, something special is going on in our country at the moment. and i have been reflecting on that. change is hard, i think we can all identify with that. it comes in fits and spurts, in big sweeping changes or small incremental ones. i think we are at an inflection point where sweeping change is possible. this country is on a journey to equality. we've been on this journey since before we were even a country, when african slaves were brought over. some of that change came with the absurd 3/5 compromise, whatever its motivations, it still assigned some element of personhood, however flawed, to black folks. this laid a foundation of sorts for abolitionists to be able to argue against slavery. then, when the writing was on the wall, the slave owning states seceded, and we had a big war that resulted in emancipation for all slaves. that was a fucking huge step, but it did not solve all the problem. i'm not going to go through the litany of things that have led us to this year we are having in 2020 for black (and, by extension, other underprivileged minorities) equality. i think it was @RomaVicta that referred to things being (and forgive me, i'm probably paraphrasing) as "stitches in the quilt that is smothering black people," which i found brilliant. if we are dismantling this quilt, we have to tear the large patches off, but also break some of these small stitches. our football team saw an opportunity to make some things right. these things are things i did not know about. i only knew robert lee moore building as the rlm. i attached no significance to those initials when i attended math or science classes there. i just hated the long walk from jester, and those escalators were a pain in the ass. because i was ignorant. but now i know, and i can't support the rlm being a thing any longer. same with the rest of the items on their list, up to and, yes, including the eyes of texas. i've proudly sang the eyes hundreds, if not thousands, of times in my life. i attached no negative significance to the song, other than wishing it had an original tune, not the railroad song. and i never even knew the troubled racist past of i've been working on the railroad. i was ignorant. but now i know that the origins of the song are steeped in racism. personally, i may attach no racist significance to the lyrics, but this isn't about me. i think many posters are coming from their own personal perspective. but it isn't about you, either. it's about these student athletes, and other students on campus. unlike me, THEY have attached a negative significance to the song. and it turns out that many others who felt they had no voice also attach that negative perspective to the song. and this is what us white people haven't understood, but i think we finally are grasping the concept. i don't know what it is like walking around with black skin. i do not have that perspective. i'll never understand it. it's not up to us to understand it. we simply need to empathize with it. we need to listen when black people feel empowered to talk to us about how they feel about certain things. actually we should listen to everyone who feels empowered enough to talk to us about how they feel about certain things. i am not the arbiter of what you find offensive. but if you tell me, "hey, hayden, can you stop saying retarded when referring to people you don't like? it bothers me as a the parent of a mentally challenged child" my initial response should not be "whatever, dude, everyone says that and i've been using that term my whole life. i'm not using it on your kid, so you shouldn't be offended." no, the response should be, "sorry, dude, i never meant offense, i never thought about it that way." and then i make a conscious effort to avoid that term, and i teach my sons to not use that word. that's called progress. it's such a minor step, but it doesn't cost me anything. it's roma's tiny little stitch of progress that i've pulled, but it's a step in the right direction. just because i'm not marching for better mental health care, and that we as a society haven't fully solved that problem doesn't mean i cannot empathize with my fellow man and make such a minor change in my life. what does the eyes of texas cost us? can we make a change to pull a couple stitches so that our football team and other black folks more equal? these small steps still represent progress. sure, it doesn't solve all the problems, but we can and should effect the incremental changes that we can as appropriate. "we've always done it this way" is never an acceptable answer when someone asks why. am i really going to stand in dkr memorial and proudly belt out the eyes of texas, knowing full well that the athletes i'm cheering on find it offensive? i can't bring myself to do that "because i've always done it" and it makes me proud and nostalgic. because i know it's offending someone else. those people it is offending told me that they find it offensive, which i did not know before. because i was ignorant. but now i know, and i can make a change. we did the right thing and pulled down the confederate statues. maybe we should consider doing the right thing again, even though the change may be hard. tl;dr: we should maybe listen to people and try to understand their perspective in order to advance society?14 points
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Yep. The governors who were banning people from last moments with dying family members, attending worship while sitting in their cars at their church parking lot, or not allowing people to have funerals for loved ones, but supporting and attending political protests with hundreds of thousands of people has angered a whole lot of people.14 points
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CNNs COVID coverage was based on journalistic investigation including interviews with epidemiologists, doctors, economists, etc. OANs report that the old guy in Buffalo was brain scanning police and faked his fall for antifa was a lie they literally pulled out of their ass to support dear leader. CNN draws a pretty visible line between news reporting and opinion editorials. OAN is the Alex Jones Show with the word “network” behind it to let morons think they’re real and just another cnn. And it was posted earlier, the OAN editorial berating protesters and calling BLM a “farce.” Chuba has been pretty vocal about BLM, and perhaps it’s a surprise to you that the young black men and the white kids they share a locker room with are pretty universally pro BLM. The shirt is easily interpreted as expressing Gundys distain for his players’ very passionate feelings on the matter. Again he can believe whatever he wants but you can’t successfully coach and recruit young black men if you show hatred towards what currently is on the top of their minds. The damage was done the second he let that photo be taken in that fucking shirt. He was going to be the target of negative recruiting even if Chuba hadn’t mentioned it. It was out there. Best case scenario this brings it to a head and Gundy publicly starts supporting these issues by attending a rally or otherwise being outspoken in support of BLM. But I doubt it. We will quickly decline and he’ll retire in 5 years after several straight 6-6 or worse seasons.13 points
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I was at the scene about 90 minutes ago and it was grotesque. Flies buzzing around bloodstains on the ground beneath the tree...I never knew hanging was so bloody, but the reek of death still permeates my nostrils even though I was masked. Word was trickling through the crowd that this was a suicide of a Hispanic man but some people did not seem satisfied with that. It's like they wanted a lynching. I say this with neutrality but I warn in the words of CS Lewis:12 points
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It's not just one night. It's a mindset. If the best positive outcome happens and she didn't contract anything from that night that will only reinforce the idea it's overblown and safe. That gives a false sense of security going forward and will lead to riskier behavior the longer the luck holds. If you keep playing Russian roulette eventually you get the bullet. Then consider we both come in contact with our semi elderly parents and in my work I come in contact with compromised and elderly people. Her risky actions puts them at danger if I get the virus and am shedding it even if I'm not symptomatic yet or at all. That's the whole point, in this society we are not in a vacuum. Our actions right now potentially kill those we come in contact with. Yet so many are selfishly rejecting that responsibility to our society.11 points
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Why the fuck are we talking about this shit now, again, in the fucking recruiting thread? I’m all for most non-cheese related thread derailments, particular ones caused by me, but can we maybe not debate the merits of a booster’s comments from 6-7 years ago? It was a throwaway comment by EZ$. Can those determined to white knight mccombs take this shit elsewhere? There’s plenty of mouth breathing cockholsters in the football board or the cloak room that will happily take on a conversation on just how racist Texas and it’s alums is/are/were/whatever.11 points
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It came from the Irish. Whisky is the Scottish spelling.* Both versions are an attempt to spell Gaelic "uisce" (water) which is short for uisce beatha (sounds like wisky bay-ha) which was booze and meant Water of Life. Beatha being cognate w/Spanish Vida because Celtic and Italic split up last week, in geological terms. Don't know the exact spelling, but Doo-ill mo fa-yin is Irish Gaelic for "lick my vagina." With that and some whiskey, you're pretty much set. *Begged question: why do we use the Irish instead of the Scottish spelling? Probably a coin flip. I doubt a good old timey whiskey-maker spent much time reading and writing.10 points
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Holy fucking shit. This may be the most egregious level of cognitive dissonance I’ve ever seen. Did you ever think that recruits might be Gundy’s customers and by wearing and speaking support for OAN he offends them and loses the customer base he relies on to be able to perform his job, and therefore his bosses would be justified if they chose to fire him? Not to mention his boss, the OSU President, didn’t seem happy with his decision. And somehow players aren’t free from consequences for staying their political beliefs outside of games, but Gundy shouldn’t have repercussions when he makes a political statement with his clothing outside of games?10 points
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Honestly I have the opposite problem, the wife wants everything put away at all times. The problem is that she puts shit in the most random places. A week ago: me-“Where is that new tape measure?” wife-“I don’t know, why are you asking me?” today:10 points
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Pancho was lied to and admitted his mistake. Let it go.10 points
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Well I haven't been posting much lately, as the endless stupidity is simply too frustrating. Imagine if we actually were encouraged to do smart things rather than stupid things by our President? We could have wide openings relatively safely, with everyone wearing masks to PROTECT OTHERS in case they are pre or asymptomatic. Instead we have a President and proven repeated coward pretending that wearing masks is silly/stupid/fill in the blank. So we are going to have lots and lots and lots more infections, and we are not going to have tracing or testing to do much more than "hope" things get better. The political narrative is such that the dolts are already talking about a "second wave" in the states where Republican Governors have opened up. And their main effort reducing the number of case is simply to try their darndest simply not to count cases. This is NOT a second wave, it's just the gradual spread of the virus due to inevitability of simple math. We are maybe 25 percent into the first wave. So kids we are fucked. We have 40 percent of the country thinking masks are stupid, and that 40 percent is going to help continue the spread for the next 18 months. We will not shut down again, we will just simply pretend things are getting better. They are not. The fact that we still have about as shitty a program imaginable for testing and contract tracking is exactly par for the course with the Trump Administration. The good news is the Fed has flooded the markets with money and the stock market appears (temporarily) to be headed in the right direction. But the money train can't last forever and while all the millionaires got free money that must be kept secret from the taxpayers, the small businesses for which the money was actually intended are dying out in droves. As a bonus the GOP sees the stock market rise as a signal that nothing else needs to be done for the citizenry. After all, the millionaires already got their free money... so all is good. So remember as this thing drags on, and on, and on. The simplest thing, wearing a fucking mask could cut down transmission dramatically. Too bad we are currently led by a very, very stupid man.10 points
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You keep saying this as if you are revealing some kind of secret truth. OAN is a LARP News Channel. They put on airs at trying to look like a legitimate source of alternative News, but they are nothing more than a far-right talking point opinion platform. You know exactly what you are getting if you tune in to watch OAN or seek them out. They are trying hard to be taken seriously, but they are what they are, and that is their shtick. They will never be at the Big Boy News table. They are click-bait fake-news trolls. Conversely, CNN, is also an opinion platform disguising itself as a legitimate source of News. People take them much more seriously than OAN. They are trading on their past when they were a pioneer in 24 hour news coverage. They also mastered the concept of News as Entertainment. They are far more capable of spewing propaganda than OAN could ever hope to. They have done it throughout the COVID-19 pandemic and they are continuing to do it today. The reality is there is really no News source today that isn't biased. People gravitate to whatever fits their own personal world-view and they accept that as News. It is all soaked in confirmation bias. Mike Gundy strikes me as a pretty simple minded fellow. He likely believes whatever he reads to be "the real truth." And it isn't really that different from my friends that watch Don Lemon and believe what he says is truth.10 points
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Checked out Space Force and it reminded me of a nugget from the past: Wife: (la dee da voice) Saw someone famous today. Me: Oh yeah, who? Wife: Can't remember his name. He was in that weird movie awhile back, something like Looking for John Malkovich, or something. Me: That would be Being John Malkovich. Wife: Whatever. Me: The name you're looking for is John Cusack. Wife. (thinks about it, shakes her head) No, not him, the other guy. Me: (long pause) John Malkovich? Wife: Haha, yeah, him! (Goes on about her day as if that was normal)10 points
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Also, I dumped the tank for the first time ever today and backed into my spot by myself for the first time without the rv guy helping. Progress. Starting to feel like I’m getting this down. Talked a bunch of business the last two days without booking a deal. Nothing to do with distance just not happening yet. Will celebrate greatly the first time I book a deal from the road. Got all my calls and intentional outbound stuff done early so just went for a nature hike with the family. Now going to see Ozark Jesus and the treehouse made of glass church.9 points
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Bravo The thing that bothers me (bolded part), is that a great many people don't seem to realize how dangerous things are right now. At a time when we should be most careful and discretionary in our words and actions, and patient for all the facts to come in, we're running around like a 9 year old with diarrhea and no bathroom. Just full of panic spraying shit everywhere.9 points
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Something that struck me watching the killing of the guy in Atlanta. Why is an arrest so important? Hear me out. The guy was intoxicated in a vehicle. Clearly a dangerous thing, drunk drivers kill people. Makes complete sense for LEOs to respond. Once the guy is out of the car, the danger to the public is over. The cops talk to Mr. Brooks for 45 minutes. They perform a field sobriety test. They perform a breathalyzer. The video I've seen is edited, so I'm not sure if he gave the officers identification. At a minimum he gave them his name at some point, plus they have his car and plates so they presumably know who he is and where he lives. So here is where I need help understanding what happens next. The cops are justified in arresting him. No argument. Once he started struggling and overpowering the officers, why was it so important to keep trying to arrest the guy? Why not step back at that point and let him run? You have his "weapon" (car). You have his name and address. You even presumably know where hes running, since he asked early on to be allowed to walk to his sister's house nearby. I'm not arguing that the cops arresting him was wrong or unjustified. I'm not arguing that the cops should have been lenient and let him walk home, or given him a ride home. That's their discretion and isn't really part of the math here. What I'm trying to understand is, why was arresting him at that Wendy's so important? You have all the evidence you need via body-cam. You even get to add resisting arrest and whatever else because he whipped your ass and took your taser. Why was it important enough to chase him and shoot your weapon in a crowded fast food parking lot? For LEOs or lawyers. Is there punishment if you don't make the arrest? Is there an incentive to arrest people? Is this just ramped up testosterone or shame once things got physical? Why was it so important to arrest the guy right there versus letting him run off and arresting him later?9 points
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I’m sure someone had made this point but we’re just about at 120,000 dead Americans and may be just about to see the damage start in earnest in many parts of the country. The reason that it is this bad, worse than anywhere else, is because a large minority of the country no longer believes in facts, science, experts, and things of that nature. The reason for this is because that minority has been hoodwinked by a ludicrous charlatan who has destroyed their sense of reality and they are largely too far down the path to find their way out without an awakening like Saul on the road to Damascus. They don’t have “differing opinions” that deserve to or even can be treated with respect. I’m sorry (not sorry) if being a fucking idiot hurts your feelings. Knock it off.9 points
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If you support the GOP, you support Russia interfering in our elections and Mitch and Trump denying it and not reacting and protecting our very essence of a democracy. If you support the GOP, you support the usurpation and politicization of the Justice Department by a political shill. If you support the GOP, you support an Impeachment trial that was not allowed to present witnesses and exhibits, and had the announced decision predetermined by Senators who violating their oath specifically not to do that. What small points do you think it worth discussing civilly if you are an intelligent and well-read supporter of the GOP? I have no interest in hearing why Conservatives support Trump and the GOP in removing rules that protect people from heath care discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation or gender identity during a pandemic. I see no reason to be civil to a person advocating that, or even continuing to support the GOP and Trump, any more than I would care to hear from a person advocating segregation in a civil, cerebral way. Rather, an intelligent and well-read and articulate GOP supporter is to be loathed the most - no? Some mouth breather does not know any better. That mouth breather may be a deplorable, but his well educated colleague is far, far worse. That is my gut reaction, and I've had a few cocktails tonight again, which might be coloring my prose a bit. That is not to say I would not engage in a discussion with Wulaw on some topics. But I am not sure he 'gets' the fact that much of his conservative world viewpoint is not seen be me - and others - as a topics worthy of a neutral and purely academic discussion. See the segregation analogy.9 points
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The worst thing about rushing to judgment like this, is it makes posters like @John Lawrence look better.9 points
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@Pancho I’ll be as pissed as you are if this is a lynching. I’ll also be just as pissed as you are if this wasn’t a lynching, and is proven it wasn’t a lynching, but our current social climate turns it into one anyway. That’s where I’m at currently. I hate it all. Funny how “love one another” and “tolerance” just keeps coming up “they! them! them!” in every instance. We can’t even be real discussing things anymore. We’re beyond sick.9 points
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Agreed. Anyone who would seek your medical opinion would have to be out of their mind.8 points
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If only people were able to choose between keeping their livelihoods going vs going bankrupt back in March and April.8 points
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I love this - the vast majority of people had zero issues when Kaep got run out on a rail. But now that coaches on the other side of BLM are catching shit - all these people from a certain side of the aisle have come to defend said coaches.8 points
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You should have known to check the stirring and measuring drawer. Your fault.8 points
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No commercials No Mercy!!!8 points
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Whoops. I pretty much never go into the CR but at this point, I can’t even keep track of what thread I’m in because everything seems to be converging right now. To get us back on track, I looked out our offers by position in this class. Defense looks pretty damn good across the board. DT could get a little iffy if we miss on Turner, but we’ve at least identified and offered backup plans. We’re on Plan A or B at almost every other position. Offense is a different story... We’re set at QB, and we have our RB2, but it looks like we’ll whiff on Wheaton and Jackson. After that, we don’t have any offers that are realistic. Drayton needs to be working to identify OOS RB1s, not sitting around His house watching NCSI all day. It’s truly insane what a lazy, low volume recruiter he is, and that Herman lets him get away with it. WR isn’t great, but if we land Ketron Jackson and Alexis, then we’re in a decent spot and have some options for the last WR in the class. We probably need a couple more OOS offers here, too. At TE, Davis is a question mark to stay and we didn’t take a TE last year, so we at least need Davis plus another. I wouldn’t hate taking 2 true TEs if we can find good ones. Boulware just made some offers, but we’ll have to wait to see if we have a chance with them. Helm seems like the most realistic, but he’s no lock. Hopefully we can find a late riser here as those guys tend to be the beat TEs anyway. Guys who’ve been TE size since their SO year tend to not work out. OL isn’t good either. Even if I put on my burnt orange colored glasses, I can’t come up with a 5 good, realistic options based on our current offers. We’ll definitely need a second wave of offers soon. Overall, the lack of backup offers on offense when we’re not in a great spot for our primary targets is not a good sign. it seems like Herman’s betting the offense will be good this year and our current offers will turn towards us, but as we’ve already seen multiple times, that kind of hubris can really hurt us. This football season is becoming more and more of an all or nothing proposition not just for Herman, but for the whole football program. If he lays an egg this season regardless of whether he stays or gets fired, this will become a really, really rough class and will undo a lot of the good work Herman’s done on the recruiting trail to raise the talent level in the program in the last three classes. A small 2020 class combined with a bad 2021 class will weigh down the program and cause depth issues for the next 3-4 years, like we’ve seen with Mack and Charlie’s departure. On the other hand, if we do win big, this roster will be one of the top 5 or 6 most talented in the country for the next 3-4 years with a deep and talented QB room and Herman will be set up for success for the foreseeable future.8 points
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If you must “watch” news, watch the PBS News Hour and spend the rest of your time being productive. If you’re willing to read, AP and Reuters shoot pretty straight. BBC is good too, if you find that kind of thing appealing. Fox is good for daytime car chases; CNN is good for indignation; MSNBC is good for indignation and exercising your thesaurus skills; OAN is good as a proxy for a MAGA hat; Infowars is a good source of supplements.8 points
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Can we get a thread title change on this one, @immamac? "Mike Gundy solves college football's fake injury problems but not coronavirus or BLM" Would also accept "Mike Gundy is a mullet-headed moron: all encompassing thread"8 points
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I think the biggest problem with what he said was “maybe a coordinator” about a guy who had been a top tier DC for 10 years at P5 schools. When an old, rich white guy discredits the accomplishments of a black man in an under-represented profession to that extent, then those accusations will almost always follow, fair or not. Like you mentioned, this was another in a long list of failures by Patterson. He refused to make BMDs feel like they had a say, which caused enough discord for Red to be pissed and bash the Strong hire to the media right away.8 points
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There is no “news reporting” anymore. It’s a race to be first and get the most clicks and stir up the most controversy. Sadly there are no consequences for these “freelance journalists”. They say, oops my bad, if anything at all and move on to the next story. From the so called journalists, it trickles down to everyone with a platform. Our society is fucked and the root cause is the media and social media and the look at me culture. I know there is nothing groundbreaking in what I said, but it needs to be shouted from the rooftops by anyone who wants to see real change in our country8 points
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People that maligned Red as a racist were stupid fucks. He thought Charlie Strong was a light weight. And he was right. He was also upset he was not at least consulted or informed of the hire in advance by that dickbag Patterson or Bill Powers, who was a trainwreck for our two marquee athletic programs. But Red was hiring black coaches for his teams 30 years ago. Ask John Lucas, Dennis Green or Randy Moss about Red McComb's character. You can be old, white and rich and not be a fucking racist. It sickened me to see so many of our fans buy into the narrative that Red McCombs was a racist because of his comments on Strong. He deserves better than that based on his history and based on what he has done for the school.8 points
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This isn't true. I'm not a CNN fan, but they spend actual money to send reporters all over the country and all over the world. They have editorials (written and filmed) that you disagree with or find biased, but comparing OAN to CNN that directly is just ignorant.8 points
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Apparently it was bleach. Maybe they were just looking out for the police and didn't want them to get sick from covid.8 points
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Maybe you're getting negged because you ran with the lynching of a black man angle to start this thread when it's becoming obvious your assumption is not the case? Just spitballing here.8 points
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