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Just now, TexArcher said:

Love it when we go up 1-0.  Think it's stupid when we don't.


It’s even better at 2-0’

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  • henrygandorf
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    there's so much to unpack from today, so i'll just start listing them. tuesday was devastating for oakland, today was twice as devastating for the yankees.  they had just started to play better. 

  • Brisketexan
    Brisketexan

    The boy and I were at the last ALCS clincher - we were walking on air for days after Altuve’s walkoff. Today, the boy is 5,000 miles and 7 hours away, with no way to watch. So we did a video chat, w

  • Enjoy it. Old Altuve, no more Correa means this is the very end of the road for your tainted dynasty. 

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2015 - Won opener, lost 2nd game in KC, Lost to KC in 5.

2017 - Won opener, won game 2. beat Boston in 4.

2018 - Won opener, won game 2, Swept Cleveland.

2019 - Won opener, won game 2, beat Tampa in 5.

2020 - Won opener, won game 2, beat Oakland in 4.

2021 - Won opener ????

 

6-0 in ALDS Game 1's. 4-1 in game 2's.

Sounds like the team is mad he wasn't around all season.  When Lance had Tommy John surgery, he was still around the team and in the dugout for a lot of games.  It's a different situation as he was for sure going to be an Astro when he came back.  Still to go out of their way to stop it, there must be some bad blood.  It sucks.  I was hoping they'd sign JV, but this doesn't bode well for that.

His instagram post tonight acts like he's so glad to be a postseason ASTRO. He's spent the last year posting pics of his wife and daughter.

23 minutes ago, kevwun said:

Sounds like the team is mad he wasn't around all season.  When Lance had Tommy John surgery, he was still around the team and in the dugout for a lot of games.  It's a different situation as he was for sure going to be an Astro when he came back.  Still to go out of their way to stop it, there must be some bad blood.  It sucks.  I was hoping they'd sign JV, but this doesn't bode well for that.

Comparing to LMJ isn’t exactly fair/apples to apples. LMJ rehabbed in 2019 pre-covid. I’d be curious to know how many guys on the shelf for 2021 were hanging around in their team’s clubhouse regularly throughout the year.

But yeah this seems bizarre.
I get being annoyed/upset the guy wasn’t around providing whatever you felt like he should be but there must be more to it.

otherwise you just roll your eyes and move on. And on the flip side, if something like this gets out (which it did), what do you know: It becomes the spotlight 

also wonder which player(s) had that conversation with Crane. Gotta imagine Crane overrules if anyone other than say, Bregs, altuve, or correa brings that request. 

Edited by UTexasFight

i remember jv coming back in the dugout in g2 at dodger stadium.  we definitely could've used some of that fire in the clubhouse a few times this year, covid or no covid.  he's a future hall-of-famer and we have an inexperienced staff.

well before this tweet i had multiple conversations this season about whether verlander had even been to a single game - even in a private box or whatever.  this team has a pretty tight family culture going on, and clearly this is not sitting well with some, if not all of them.

I love JV, but i thought it was a bitch move he hadn't been around at all. I get rehabbing, but I doubt he saw the team once. I don't know the rules but i wanted him to be in the dugout the whole playoffs....he should've been here more

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not sure if true, arod just said white sox lance threw 76 pitches, 74 fast balls 

I’ve heard he has always been kind of of a locker room cancer. When you are winning you get over it. But he is old and done so the youngster’s might be speaking up. Good if true


-I truly appreciate everything JV did here but it may be time.

4 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

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not sure if true, arod just said white sox lance threw 76 pitches, 74 fast balls 

It was the highest percentage ever since they started tracking pitch type stats. It was so out of balance that it likely was ever. 

Somehow the Astros were stealing signs though according to Helo.

7 minutes ago, Pimphand said:

It was the highest percentage ever since they started tracking pitch type stats. It was so out of balance that it likely was ever. 

 

larussa was ok with this strategy ?

Somehow the Astros were stealing signs though according to Helo.

We really need to transfer that dipshit to texags
16 minutes ago, Updawg said:

I’ve heard he has always been kind of of a locker room cancer. When you are winning you get over it. But he is old and done so the youngster’s might be speaking up. Good if true


-I truly appreciate everything JV did here but it may be time.

JV: don’t care. Had sex. With Kate 

30 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

larussa was ok with this strategy ?

I assume so he let him throw 97 pitches and get his ass kicked.

Also what is it about Ex-Ranger pitchers that do so amazing in the postseason against Houston?

51 minutes ago, Scraps said:

I love JV, but i thought it was a bitch move he hadn't been around at all. I get rehabbing, but I doubt he saw the team once. I don't know the rules but i wanted him to be in the dugout the whole playoffs....he should've been here more

 

i agree, bad mojo showing up game 1 after not being around season. he could have met them on the road or something

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Maybe the players are annoyed he wasn't around this year to help the young pitchers; maybe they think he should have tried to come back to help at the end of this season.  Whatever.

If that story is true, my guess is Correa and Maldonado were the ones who went to Crane and were probably motivated by their support of LMJ. I never considered JV's absence this season anything to give a shit about but now that it's playoff time I think it's great to see the clubhouse leaders take a strong stance here and tell JV to go sit back down on his couch.

5 hours ago, runthebone said:

Maybe the players are annoyed he wasn't around this year to help the young pitchers; maybe they think he should have tried to come back to help at the end of this season.  Whatever.

Yeah, I can see that.

I suppose if it is Correa who's pissed, there might be a chance for JV to salvage things with the other guys next season.

Whatever.  No distractions right now.  We've got 10 more playoff games to win.  In a row.

Yeah, I can see that.
I suppose if it is Correa who's pissed, there might be a chance for JV to salvage things with the other guys next season.
Whatever.  No distractions right now.  We've got 10 more playoff games to win.  In a row.
They're gone after this season ends. The Astros will make qualifying offers to both JV and Correa but neither will accept.
6 minutes ago, Gourmand said:
23 minutes ago, TexArcher said:
Yeah, I can see that.
I suppose if it is Correa who's pissed, there might be a chance for JV to salvage things with the other guys next season.
Whatever.  No distractions right now.  We've got 10 more playoff games to win.  In a row.

They're gone after this season ends. The Astros will make qualifying offers to both JV and Correa but neither will accept.

Correa's definitely gone, but I thought JV was considered a 50/50 shot?

If JV is gone and the clubhouse knows it, then yeah, I get why they don't want him involved with anything this postseason, even a first pitch.

If all this is actually true and how it played out, I would understand the players opinion and why they would not want JV out there.

However, it seems petty and an extremely low priority thing to contact the owner about right before Game 1.  I would think the guys have better things to focus on than a 1 minute ceremonial pitch.   

Maybe Granato was far deep into his Coors Lights.

Lynn had the highest % of fastball in the league.  He also throws 3 different ones so it wasnt like all 74 were the same pitch.

I think the only way JV is back is by accepting the $18.9M qualifying offer. Which is definitely possible. Other teams might be reluctant to give him the multi year deal he’s looking for. He will,  after all, be 39 y.o. coming off of TJ surgery. 

He's probably going to need his innings limited also, so he doesn't run out of gas by playoff time.

1 hour ago, TexArcher said:

Yeah, I can see that.

I suppose if it is Correa who's pissed, there might be a chance for JV to salvage things with the other guys next season.

Whatever.  No distractions right now.  We've got 10 more playoff games to win.  In a row.

Gonna be awfully awkward when Correa signs with Detroit <ducks> and JV does a victory lap with his old team.

I think Verlander going back to Detroit will absolutely happen. They need a veteran in that rotation with their young guys, and he loved playing there. Hinch being there likely helps, too.

10 hours ago, Pimphand said:

Somehow the Astros were stealing signs though according to Helo.

To be fair, the Astros did know what pitch was coming. Hint: It was a fastball.  

Uncle Mike to DH and Chas for Jake farm.  IDMAS.

I wish we could go through a playoff run without some sort of controversy.  That would be nice for a change.

3 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

I wish we could go through a playoff run without some sort of controversy.  That would be nice for a change.

What, this Verl thing is a controversy?  Get over it.

Yeah not only that it may not even be true.

1 hour ago, TexArcher said:

Correa's definitely gone, but I thought JV was considered a 50/50 shot?

If JV is gone and the clubhouse knows it, then yeah, I get why they don't want him involved with anything this postseason, even a first pitch.

It may have been 50/50 earlier in the year but his brother Ben was on a radio show a month ago or so and openly talked about JV going back to Detroit so I think there's zero chance of him returning to the Astros. The Astros will happily make him a QO and take the draft pick compensation.....

9 minutes ago, Scraps said:

Yeah not only that it may not even be true.

Right. But it's not even a controversy, and I hope it is true because that further suggests the brotherly bond these guys have for each other in the clubhouse.

6 minutes ago, TonyTexas said:
The only way this doesn’t happen is if we lose the next 2. In other words, it’s happening 

this is my preference. 

24 minutes ago, Scraps said:

Yeah not only that it may not even be true.

Whether it's true or not isn't the point.  It's being discussed and could be a distraction.  Fuck that.

After what this team has been through, this first pitch whatever is nothing.

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