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7 hours ago, Ricky Butler said:

Today sucked but Jesus, our defensive transition over the past three years has made me proud as a fan. We tackle well!

We did not tackle well today at all. Not at all. 
 

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19 minutes ago, lilMAC25 said:

Not giving Simon carries is almost as bad as not giving Bijan carries

To be fair, we hardly ran the ball. There weren’t lots of carries to spread around. 

The gameplan was idiotic. Just flat stupid. 

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Posted (edited)
12 minutes ago, cmontexas said:

You are underestimating Miss State and Vandy

Those will be dogfight toss ups.  7-5 seems like the most likely record.

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9 hours ago, FORTY NINE TO ZERO said:

i would hate the hire, but i mean is he any worse than sark?? neither have a championship.   sark is the definition of failing upwards.  

I got shit from multiple posters last week saying Sark and Franklin are essentially the same coach. lol at those morons. 

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I feel like the offensive struggles were dictated by personnel decisions before the game even kicked off. 

Trotting Stroh out there to start again was malpractice. What a disaster. That was a five alarm fire even in our cupcake wins and they ignored it. 

SItting Wisner for a few weeks and giving him almost every single RB carry against a tough Gator D? Not one touch for Gibson or Simon? Strange. 

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I have this theory that Sark sees good execution in practice and from that assumes that players can execute the schemes and play calls.

But once reality shows that they aren't capable, because of talent, or mentality or whatever, Sark refuses to change up the calls.  Like he assumes the execution failure is more an aberration than who the players are and what are their limitations in a game scenario, despite evidence to the contrary.

 

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Posted
4 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

I feel like the offensive struggles were dictated by personnel decisions before the game even kicked off. 

Trotting Stroh out there to start again was malpractice. What a disaster. That was a five alarm fire even in our cupcake wins and they ignored it. 

SItting Wisner for a few weeks and giving him almost every single RB carry against a tough Gator D? Not one touch for Gibson or Simon? Strange. 

I assume that Gibson was off the table because of the wet conditions.  That's defensible.

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There are exceptions of course (coaching icons like Saban and Meyer and weird cases like Orgeron) but the majority of coaches these days break through and win their first national championship between years 5-10 at their respective school (Day, Smart, Harbaugh, Dabo, hell even Mack).  Sark has a little more rope given what he has done so far but if the next few years start to trend away from where years 3 and 4 were, it won't look good for his long-term chances to add to that list and that's when a decision had to be made.

Everything else we(I) am doing is just disgruntled speculation because what the hell else are we supposed to do. 

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1 minute ago, Surly Bevo said:

There are exceptions of course (coaching icons like Saban and Meyer and weird cases like Orgeron) but the majority of coaches these days break through and win their first national championship between years 5-10 at their respective school (Day, Smart, Harbaugh, Dabo, hell even Mack).  Sark has a little more rope given what he has done so far but if the next few years start to trend away from where years 3 and 4 were, it won't look good for his long-term chances to add to that list and that's when a decision had to be made.

Everything else we(I) am doing is just disgruntled speculation because what the hell else are we supposed to do. 

2028 is gonna be our year!

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5 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

I have this theory that Sark sees good execution in practice and from that assumes that players can execute the schemes and play calls.

But once reality shows that they aren't capable, because of talent, or mentality or whatever, Sark refuses to change up the calls.  Like he assumes the execution failure is more an aberration than who the players are and what are their limitations in a game scenario, despite evidence to the contrary.

 

Steel sharpens steel.  Pudding against pudding, OTOH …

Posted
1 minute ago, Surly Bevo said:

There are exceptions of course (coaching icons like Saban and Meyer and weird cases like Orgeron) but the majority of coaches these days break through and win their first national championship between years 5-10 at their respective school (Day, Smart, Harbaugh, Dabo, hell even Mack).  Sark has a little more rope given what he has done so far but if the next few years start to trend away from where years 3 and 4 were, it won't look good for his long-term chances to add to that list and that's when a decision had to be made.

Everything else we(I) am doing is just disgruntled speculation because what the hell else are we supposed to do. 

I'm not ready to throw in the towel on him.  

A clearer-eyed view of this team, what they lost, and who was left and how well-proven they were should have indicated that this would be an off-year.  Maybe not this off, but off nonetheless.

This team seems to be exposing some of Sark's shortcomings, or maybe its completely hindsight bias and people fitting what they're seeing into preconceived patterns.

This is his first real adversity and he deserves an opportunity to respond, to fix it, in my opinion.  How and what he does will determine his fate, much more so than the outcome of this season.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

I'm not ready to throw in the towel on him.  

A clearer-eyed view of this team, what they lost, and who was left and how well-proven they were should have indicated that this would be an off-year.  Maybe not this off, but off nonetheless.

This team seems to be exposing some of Sark's shortcomings, or maybe its completely hindsight bias and people fitting what they're seeing into preconceived patterns.

This is his first real adversity and he deserves an opportunity to respond, to fix it, in my opinion.  How and what he does will determine his fate, much more so than the outcome of this season.

Unfortunately, Sark's shortcomings were exposed inside the five yard line against Washington and Ohio State.

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Posted
3 minutes ago, VirginiaLonghorn said:

Steel sharpens steel.  Pudding against pudding, OTOH …

True enough, but until this year, the O has been going against one of the best Ds in the country.  But practice just isn't game time for a variety of reasons.

I am guessing Sark developed this disorder at Bama, with their talent and execution, including a mediocrity like Mac Jones.

 

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14 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

I'm not ready to throw in the towel on him.  

A clearer-eyed view of this team, what they lost, and who was left and how well-proven they were should have indicated that this would be an off-year.  Maybe not this off, but off nonetheless.

This team seems to be exposing some of Sark's shortcomings, or maybe its completely hindsight bias and people fitting what they're seeing into preconceived patterns.

This is his first real adversity and he deserves an opportunity to respond, to fix it, in my opinion.  How and what he does will determine his fate, much more so than the outcome of this season.

I’m about here.  I didn’t think sark deserved this gig.  Thought we could do better and feel his early success is pretty overrated. 
 

Rhat being said he’ll be our guy fi quite a while so in trying to maintain a positive mindset I hope he can fix things.   I feel like cdc may eventually force his hand as I think sark is too stubborn and has too big of an ego to hand the offense to someone else.   His offense has been bad under quinn and arch

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15 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

True enough, but until this year, the O has been going against one of the best Ds in the country.  But practice just isn't game time for a variety of reasons.

I am guessing Sark developed this disorder at Bama, with their talent and execution, including a mediocrity like Mac Jones.

 

Mac looks like a viable nfl qb now.   In college he threw to four dies round receivers while handing the ball off to a first round running back.  Oh and Saban.  

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Posted
8 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

True enough, but until this year, the O has been going against one of the best Ds in the country.  But practice just isn't game time for a variety of reasons.

I am guessing Sark developed this disorder at Bama, with their talent and execution, including a mediocrity like Mac Jones.

A quote attributed to Vince Lombardi who coached the highest level of talent in his day …

“Practice doesn’t make perfect.  Perfect practice makes perfect.”

Sark and his staff need to refocus theirs and the team’s preparation.

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Posted

Lost the game on the first 3 drives. 
 

We got the ball back the second time down 14 and a full quarter of play. Sark went full panic. No screens to slow the D, no moving the pocket, no shift to getting the ball out quickly etc. He’s more lost than the team

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Posted
35 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

This team seems to be exposing some of Sark's shortcomings

So did the ultra talented 2023 and 2024 teams. Despite all that NFL talent on the roster, we somehow managed to lose 5 games over two years and nearly dropped a few more. Sark has major flaws, and he is either incapable or unwilling to fix them. 

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Posted
42 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

I have this theory that Sark sees good execution in practice and from that assumes that players can execute the schemes and play calls.

But once reality shows that they aren't capable, because of talent, or mentality or whatever, Sark refuses to change up the calls.  Like he assumes the execution failure is more an aberration than who the players are and what are their limitations in a game scenario, despite evidence to the contrary.

 

If this OL and offense executes consistently against our 1st team D then we are in for a very long season. Before yesterday I’d say that would be hard to believe but 21 points from the offense should have won that game yesterday. Our D line got pushed around yesterday and our secondary got punked by a freshman WR.

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30 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

I'm not ready to throw in the towel on him.  

A clearer-eyed view of this team, what they lost, and who was left and how well-proven they were should have indicated that this would be an off-year.  Maybe not this off, but off nonetheless.

This team seems to be exposing some of Sark's shortcomings, or maybe its completely hindsight bias and people fitting what they're seeing into preconceived patterns.

This is his first real adversity and he deserves an opportunity to respond, to fix it, in my opinion.  How and what he does will determine his fate, much more so than the outcome of this season.

What were our issues last year offensively?

1) A QB who seemed to lack confidence at times. Who was wildly successful when not forced into a 5 step drop or play action when his back was turned. Who had out of character times when he turned into a bumbling fool and started self abusive behaviors for no logical reason. 

2) A lack of consistency in the run game. Mediocre run blocking and no RB really stepping to the plate often leaving us with low YPC and frequent 3rd and longs. 

3) Give the issues and the play calling it allowed for athletic Ds with good coaching to really slow our offense.

Now, what are the issues this year?

1) A QB who seemed to lack confidence at times. Who was wildly successful when not forced into a 5 step drop or play action when his back was turned. Who had out of character times when he turned into a bumbling fool and started self abusive behaviors for no logical reason. 

2) A lack of consistency in the run game. Mediocre run blocking and no RB really stepping to the plate often leaving us with low YPC and frequent 3rd and longs. 

3) Give the issues and the play calling it allowed for athletic Ds with good coaching to really slow our offense.

The issue is Sark not rebuilding. If he doesn't bring in an entirely new offensive staff and completely step away from coaching the offense, absolutely nothing will change.

You may be choosing not to see this reality, trying to out on a positive spin or simply incapable of accepting the reality but that is the reality. Sark sucks at offensive game planning. He's historically won in his past with more talent than the opposing team while a HC and and OC. When he didn't have that talent advantage he lost. Go back, look at his career, it's absolutely true. 

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Posted
11 hours ago, ChiTownDoc said:

Lol.  I said ‘if he wanted to’ dumbass.  Get fucked.  Just remember my Okie ass will buy you out a few dozen times min.  
 

DFWdoooooooshhhh.  You poor.  Stop talking about money with people that actually have…money.  

Sure, Doc. Have another drink.

Go flex over on Land Thieves or wherever else you dirt burglars like to flap your gums. You ain't getting much ROI on your support of okie athletics these days. GFY

Posted
1 minute ago, BrickHorn said:

So did the ultra talented 2023 and 2024 teams. Despite all that NFL talent on the roster, we somehow managed to lose 5 games over two years and nearly dropped a few more. Sark has major flaws, and he is either incapable or unwilling to fix them. 

Im beginning to think it's pretty much all about the OL.  OL play took a step up from long-term abysmal with Flood and then plateaued at a level less than what the talent seemed to indicate.  Better, much better, but not good enough.  Then we lost that talent and it has become apparent that we were not in "next man up" phase like the defense has been (but also showing cracks this year).

The OL is why the run game falters even with all world backs.  It got our QB injured and in his head.  It fucked the red zone.

It's probably also why the offense cant execute in game situations the way it executes in practice, which I think may be Sark's major flaw.

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Just now, TwiceHorn said:

Im beginning to think it's pretty much all about the OL.  OL play took a step up from long-term abysmal with Flood and then plateaued at a level less than what the talent seemed to indicate.  Better, much better, but not good enough.  Then we lost that talent and it has become apparent that we were not in "next man up" phase like the defense has been (but also showing cracks this year).

The OL is why the run game falters even with all world backs.  It got our QB injured and in his head.  It fucked the red zone.

It's probably also why the offense cant execute in game situations the way it executes in practice, which I think may be Sark's major flaw.

It's not just the OL and we have been putting guys in the NFL yet still have those issues.

 

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Just now, BurntEyes said:

It's not just the OL and we have been putting guys in the NFL yet still have those issues.

 

The OL, despite the individual talent, just was not that great, ever.  Not championship caliber and bitched by championship caliber D.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

What were our issues last year offensively?

1) A QB who seemed to lack confidence at times. Who was wildly successful when not forced into a 5 step drop or play action when his back was turned. Who had out of character times when he turned into a bumbling fool and started self abusive behaviors for no logical reason. 

2) A lack of consistency in the run game. Mediocre run blocking and no RB really stepping to the plate often leaving us with low YPC and frequent 3rd and longs. 

3) Give the issues and the play calling it allowed for athletic Ds with good coaching to really slow our offense.

Now, what are the issues this year?

1) A QB who seemed to lack confidence at times. Who was wildly successful when not forced into a 5 step drop or play action when his back was turned. Who had out of character times when he turned into a bumbling fool and started self abusive behaviors for no logical reason. 

2) A lack of consistency in the run game. Mediocre run blocking and no RB really stepping to the plate often leaving us with low YPC and frequent 3rd and longs. 

3) Give the issues and the play calling it allowed for athletic Ds with good coaching to really slow our offense.

The issue is Sark not rebuilding. If he doesn't bring in an entirely new offensive staff and completely step away from coaching the offense, absolutely nothing will change.

You may be choosing not to see this reality, trying to out on a positive spin or simply incapable of accepting the reality but that is the reality. Sark sucks at offensive game planning. He's historically won in his past with more talent than the opposing team while a HC and and OC. When he didn't have that talent advantage he lost. Go back, look at his career, it's absolutely true. 

Offensive players regress every fucking year under Sark. Quinn was better his first start with us than his last. The same is definitely true with Arch so far. Hell, you could probably say the same for Murphy and Thompson. We have to portal in our best players on offense every year because we can't develop any of them for shit. Even on defense, where I think we actually developed players, it seems players like Hill and Simmons have regressed. This is a pattern at this point. I'm becoming less convinced Sark is capable of solving it.  

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Just now, BurntEyes said:

It's not just the OL and we have been putting guys in the NFL yet still have those issues.

 

Most of the guys we put in the NFL were not even Sark’s guys. Kelvin Banks only came here because Cristobal left for Miami. And Flood has been smelling his own farts because of this 1st round pick this whole time, oblivious to the fact his OL room stinks like shit. 

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4 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Im beginning to think it's pretty much all about the OL.  OL play took a step up from long-term abysmal with Flood and then plateaued at a level less than what the talent seemed to indicate.  Better, much better, but not good enough.  Then we lost that talent and it has become apparent that we were not in "next man up" phase like the defense has been (but also showing cracks this year).

The OL is why the run game falters even with all world backs.  It got our QB injured and in his head.  It fucked the red zone.

It's probably also why the offense cant execute in game situations the way it executes in practice, which I think may be Sark's major flaw.

That's a separate issue. We don't have the talent on the oline. We refuse to recruit actual talent and instead try to out smart everyone by hoping to find some diamonds in a bag of coal. This is a huge roster mismanagement issue. 

Posted
2 minutes ago, Horn of Gabriel said:

I'm just saying, we made the playoff semis twice in a row, and then Mack Brown starts showing up again and we SUCK.  I'm JUST SAYIN'...

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Posted
1 minute ago, Dahobbs said:

That's a separate issue. We don't have the talent on the oline. We refuse to recruit actual talent and instead try to out smart everyone by hoping to find some diamonds in a bag of coal. This is a huge roster mismanagement issue. 

I don't disagree at all.  Im just positing that most of the offensive struggles flow from the OL.  When we had the talent, allegedly, we weren't as good as we needed to be and now that the talent is gone  . . .  fugeddaboutit.

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Posted
9 hours ago, Napoleon said:

I still can’t believe that Connor Stroh ever saw a snap in any game that wasn’t a UT blowout of a directional school. Don’t even get me started about actually starting him in any game… ever. 

I am sure that he’s a wonderful guy who bleeds burnt orange, but that doesn’t mean much when the ball is snapped. 

I'm scared to re-watch the 1st Half of the Florida game to see just how awful he was. His last missed block almost got Arch killed. DT did an arm-over swim move right thru the A gap.

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Just now, Rockethorn1978 said:

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All this oaf does is lean after initial contact. Just terrible footwork. I don't know how you fix that.

You can't teach size, but geez...

Posted
1 hour ago, TwiceHorn said:

I have this theory that Sark sees good execution in practice and from that assumes that players can execute the schemes and play calls.

But once reality shows that they aren't capable, because of talent, or mentality or whatever, Sark refuses to change up the calls.  Like he assumes the execution failure is more an aberration than who the players are and what are their limitations in a game scenario, despite evidence to the contrary.

 

I believe he has a loyalty issue, in that once he decides who the best player is at a position he struggles to adapt when that player is struggling.

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1 hour ago, Tex Pete said:

To be fair, we hardly ran the ball. There weren’t lots of carries to spread around. 

The gameplan was idiotic. Just flat stupid. 

We ran the ball. With Arch

 

 

 

back to Sark I’ve always thought ucla was perfect for him. I hope they don’t come after him 

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It has been difficult to believe that any sort of practice involving first team OL versus first, even second, team DL could leave a single coach, player, or casual observer with the impression that the OL is fully functional. 

The OL coach is also the co-OC for Run Game.

There may be some correspondences to be drawn.

 

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Posted
5 minutes ago, Im_smarter_then_you said:

... back to Sark I’ve always thought ucla was perfect for him. I hope they don’t come after him 

I hope they do, but they almost certainly won't.

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7 minutes ago, Im_smarter_then_you said:

We ran the ball. With Arch

 

 

 

back to Sark I’ve always thought ucla was perfect for him. I hope they don’t come after him 

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29 minutes ago, DFW Horn said:

All this oaf does is lean after initial contact. Just terrible footwork. I don't know how you fix that.

You can't teach size, but geez...

Recruiting a guy for size over talent is stupid. You can't teach size but you can't teach talent and athleticism either. 

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Maybe yesterday will get this team focused for Saturday. I bought fucking tickets 4 weeks ago so I’m getting there early, eating a shit ton of food and enjoying the fair and this game coming up. It’s my favorite time of the year and I think we beat ousucks Saturday. 

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