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52 minutes ago, bschoolprof said:

Lol at the quinn apologists claiming that surly is overreacting.  or "I just don't agree with Jerry's take" here.  Try going on twitter and searching Quinn Ewers to get the sports world's take outside the UT bubble.  It's far more harsh.  And it's 100% accurate. I guaranfuckingtee if he played for OU or ATM everyone on this thread would be united in shitting on him.  

He's an average QB on a team surrounded by elite talent.  But most average QBs just have all-around average skills.  He's unique in his variance - incredible throws at times, followed by complete "how the fuck is this dude a D1 QB?" pants shitting.  It averages out to, at best, average.  Arguing individual plays or games or stats is silly and beside the point. Our offense has been held back since he came back from injury.  Period.  There's better talent on the bench that deserves a shot and is not getting it.    

The entirety of college football is filled with "average quarterbacks" this year with maybe 1 being worth of a first round pick. The majority of the talk is click bait. Texas is one of the biggest brands in college football, what better way to spark a conversation than creating QB controversy. People buy it hook line and sinker. Never fails. If I gave you the stat line below would you honestly say the QB of the team with less yards was the reason the game was lost?

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1 hour ago, BurntOrange&White said:

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Gerry loves to stir the pot and you know it. Typically it is aimed at aggy. For whatever reason he decided to pile on Quinn this week. I think his emotions got the best of him and so many others.

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1 minute ago, Longhornlove said:

Gerry loves to stir the pot and you know it. Typically it is aimed at aggy. For whatever reason he decided to pile on Quinn this week. I think his emotions got the best of him and so many others.

Or maybe the guy that ran ESPN's recruiting ranking for nearly a decade and has been in this industry for over 20 years understands the game better than you.

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https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/college-football/ranking-playoff-qbs/

 

 

Not good chief....


1. Dillon Gabriel, Oregon
2. Kevin Jennings, SMU
3. Cade Klubnik, Clemson
4. Will Howard, Ohio St
5. Riley Leonard, ND
6. Kurtis Rourke, Indiana
7. Drew Allar, Penn St
8. Nic Iamaleava, Tenn
9. Quinn Ewers, Texas
10. Maddux Madsen, Boise St
11. Sam Leavitt, Arizona St
12. Gunnar Stockton, Georgia


So Quinn is ranked in the bottom 4 if playoff QBs as a 3 year starter and 1.000 overall prospect alongside Gunnar Stockton(making his 1st start), Sam Leavitt(Redshirt Freshmen, 1st year starting), and Maddux Madsen(RS Sophomore, 1st year as full time starter)

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4 minutes ago, Longhornlove said:

Gerry loves to stir the pot and you know it. Typically it is aimed at aggy. For whatever reason he decided to pile on Quinn this week. I think his emotions got the best of him and so many others.

He's giving his honest opinion and a lot of people agree with him. You just don't like it. 

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4 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:



https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/college-football/ranking-playoff-qbs/

 

 

Not good chief....


1. Dillon Gabriel, Oregon
2. Kevin Jennings, SMU
3. Cade Klubnik, Clemson
4. Will Howard, Ohio St
5. Riley Leonard, ND
6. Kurtis Rourke, Indiana
7. Drew Allar, Penn St
8. Nic Iamaleava, Tenn
9. Quinn Ewers, Texas
10. Maddux Madsen, Boise St
11. Sam Leavitt, Arizona St
12. Gunnar Stockton, Georgia


So Quinn is ranked in the bottom 4 if playoff QBs as a 3 year starter and 1.000 overall prospect alongside Gunnar Stockton(making his 1st start), Sam Leavitt(Redshirt Freshmen, 1st year starting), and Maddux Madsen(RS Sophomore, 1st year as full time starter)

Oh no! Some of the other best teams in college football may have better QBs than us. Stop being such a bitch. 

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CFP QBs by QBR

1 Dillon Gabriel, Oregon
2 Kurtis Rourke, Indiana
3 Will Howard, Ohio St
4 Drew Allar, Penn St
5 Sam Leavitt, Arizona St
6 Riley Leonard, ND
7 Cade Klubnik, Clemson
8 Kevin Jennings, SMU
9 Maddux Madsen, Boise St
10 Quinn Ewers, Texas
11 Nico Iamaleava, Tenn
12 Gunnar Stockton, Georgia*


*Carson Beck would be ranked 6th if healthy.

 

So by QBR Quinn and Nico are the two worst QBs outside of the guy making his first start. 

 

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10 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:



https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/college-football/ranking-playoff-qbs/

 

 

Not good chief....


1. Dillon Gabriel, Oregon
2. Kevin Jennings, SMU
3. Cade Klubnik, Clemson
4. Will Howard, Ohio St
5. Riley Leonard, ND
6. Kurtis Rourke, Indiana
7. Drew Allar, Penn St
8. Nic Iamaleava, Tenn
9. Quinn Ewers, Texas
10. Maddux Madsen, Boise St
11. Sam Leavitt, Arizona St
12. Gunnar Stockton, Georgia


So Quinn is ranked in the bottom 4 if playoff QBs as a 3 year starter and 1.000 overall prospect alongside Gunnar Stockton(making his 1st start), Sam Leavitt(Redshirt Freshmen, 1st year starting), and Maddux Madsen(RS Sophomore, 1st year as full time starter)

 I way Will Howard is 4 on that list. He is guaranteed to have a major fuckup at a critical moment 

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CFP QBs by QBR

1 Dillon Gabriel, Oregon
2 Kurtis Rourke, Indiana
3 Will Howard, Ohio St
4 Drew Allar, Penn St
5 Sam Leavitt, Arizona St
6 Riley Leonard, ND
7 Cade Klubnik, Clemson
8 Kevin Jennings, SMU
9 Maddux Madsen, Boise St
10 Quinn Ewers, Texas
11 Nico Iamaleava, Tenn
12 Gunnar Stockton, Georgia*

*Carson Beck would be ranked 6th if healthy.
 
So by QBR Quinn and Nico are the two worst QBs outside of the guy making his first start. 
 

Where would sheduer sanders be on this list?
Posted (edited)

CFP QBs Ranked by PFF Grade

 

1  Kurtis Rourke, Indiana - 91.7
2 Dillon Gabriel, Oregon - 90.4
3 Sam Leavitt, Arizona St - 88.9
4 Cade Klubnik, Clemson - 88.1
5 Riley Leonard, ND - 87.6
6 Drew Allar, Penn St - 86
7 Kevin Jennings, SMU - 84.7
8 Will Howard, Ohio St - 82.4
9 Nico Iamaleava, Tenn - 78
10 Maddux Madsen, Boise St - 76.7
11 Quinn Ewers, Texas - 72.2
12 Gunnar Stockton, Georgia*

 

* Doesn't meet minimum snap requirement
Beck(80.2) would be ranked right behind Will Howard on PFF.

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6 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

CFP QBs Ranked by PFF Grade

 

1  Kurtis Rourke, Indiana - 91.7
2 Dillon Gabriel, Oregon - 90.4
3 Sam Leavitt, Arizona St - 88.9
4 Cade Klubnik, Clemson - 88.1
5 Riley Leonard, ND - 87.6
6 Drew Allar, Penn St - 86
7 Kevin Jennings, SMU - 84.7
8 Will Howard, Ohio St - 82.4
9 Nico Iamaleava, Tenn - 78
10 Maddux Madsen, Boise St - 76.7
11 Quinn Ewers, Texas - 72.2
12 Gunnar Stockton, Georgia*

 

* Doesn't meet minimum snap requirement

Quinns PFF grade against the vaunted Georgia Defense, 87. Beck was in the 30s.

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I think that is a little low but it does demonstrate the point: Quinn is only pretty good.

2,700 yards passing 25 TDs and 9 Ints on 352 attempts. That is fine. Decent. Top 30 QB in the country.

But compared to his ranking out of High School? Compared to his expectations for this year? Disappointing.

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11 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Cool, we must have won the game then!

Just pointing out how you use empirical evidence to support your narrative and then like I expected you disregard the same evidence when it doesn't support your narrative.

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1 minute ago, BurntOrange&White said:

YESSIR! 

You know they are making fun of you right?

1 minute ago, lilMAC25 said:

Staying home with my sick 5 yr old son and rewatched the Kentucky game.

 

 

Quinn… has been struggling for weeks. He’s not playing well

True, been playing hurt most of the year too.

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1 minute ago, Longhornlove said:

You know they are making fun of you right?

You know you can read that graph as a joke and not be a bigger pussy than Quinn, right? I think it's hilarious that it got posted on MBG. The whole post was a joke and you're worked up about it like Quinn is mounted on top of you sending your heels to Jesus. 

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I think that is a little low but it does demonstrate the point: Quinn is only pretty good.
2,700 yards passing 25 TDs and 9 Ints on 352 attempts. That is fine. Decent. Top 30 QB in the country.
But compared to his ranking out of High School? Compared to his expectations for this year? Disappointing.

If he had been David Ash coming out of high school, we’d all be content with his play, but also looking forward to the upgrade coming next year (and also probably pretty confused as to why it didn’t happen this year). Sucks for Quinn that those expectations were there….. but they were. We were thinking Trevor Lawrence and that didn’t exactly happen.
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5 minutes ago, Longhornlove said:

You know they are making fun of you right?

True, been playing hurt most of the year too.

Been playing hurt most of his career.  He's perpetually hurt, it is who he is, there is no need to qualify it anymore.

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Story isn't fully written yet and the long-term view on Quinn will be based entirely on how this playoff concludes.

Lead us to a national championship, even with mediocre play? Gritty legend.
Beat Clemson and ASU and lose a heart-breaker in the semis? Thanks for your time, Quinn, and best of luck in the NFL or your new team when you transfer.
Flame out hard and lose in the First Round? Get out of town as fast as you can.

That was how it was before these guys were richer than the majority of the fans. It's not going to soften up anytime soon.

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3 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

Story isn't fully written yet and the long-term view on Quinn will be based entirely on how this playoff concludes.

Lead us to a national championship, even with mediocre play? Gritty legend.
Beat Clemson and ASU and lose a heart-breaker in the semis? Thanks for your time, Quinn, and best of luck in the NFL or your new team when you transfer.
Flame out hard and lose in the First Round? Get out of town as fast as you can.

That was how it was before these guys were richer than the majority of the fans. It's not going to soften up anytime soon.

Buckle up, because we are likely to struggle vs Clemson.

 

ETA: it sure would be nice to have a battering ram to rely on at RB. Someone who could turn the 2 yd gain into 4.

Wisner is awesome in his own right, but Baxter is sorely missed.

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On 12/8/2024 at 11:23 AM, Gandalfish said:

1. Texas 49-17 vs. Florida. Score = 100.0 (QBR 90.0 +10 for win)

2. Texas 20-10 vs. Arkansas Score = 72.0 (QBR 62.0 +10 for win)

3. Texas 31-14 vs. Kentucky Score = 77.6 (QBR 67.6 +10 for win)

4. Texas 17-7 vs. Aggy Score = 89.1 (QBR 79.1 +10 for win)

5. Georgia 22-19 vs. Texas Score = 70.6 (QBR 70.6 -10 for team loss +10 for this game being the SEC championship)

 

Average = 81.9 --> KIND OF A PUSSY : "Quinn, we would have had a real shot this season if you didn't play like a pussy one too many times. Good luck in the NFL though bro."

This actually pretty accurately reflects my feelings right now.

I harbor no personal feelings of ill will to the guy, he is still our QB1, I want him to succeed now and in the future, wherever that takes him.

I do feel extremely disappointed on where he is, given the expectations we were sold on early in his career.

Unfortunately, I think that Longhorn fans will still be arguing about this in twenty years.

 

I've decided to extend this rating system into the playoff.

Here's what Quinn has done so far since I started this highly scientific rating system:

1. Texas 49-17 vs. Florida. Score = 100.0

2. Texas 20-10 vs. Arkansas Score = 72.0

3. Texas 31-14 vs. Kentucky Score = 77.6

4. Texas 17-7 vs. Aggy Score = 89.1

5. Georgia 22-19 vs. Texas Score = 70.6

 

Here is how the playoff games will factor into the rating going forward:

 

6. First Round Game vs. Clemson. Sum Ewers QBR +10 for a team win -10 for a team loss.

7. Quarterfinal Game vs. Arizona State. Sum Ewers QBR +20 for a team win -10 for a team loss.

8. Semifinal Game vs. Oregon, Ohio State or Tennessee. Sum Ewers QBR +30 for a team win -10 for a team loss.

9. Championship Game vs. Some Asshole. Sum Ewers QBR +60 for a team win -10 for a team loss.

 

Here is our scale again, unchanged:

 

0-65.0 : THE ULTIMATE PUSSY : Sorry Quinn, you are officially and forever a Huge Pussy

65-75 : PRETTY MUCH A PUSSY : Quinn, you had so much potential but you ended up playing like a Pussy for us. There might be hope for you in the future though.

75-85 : KIND OF A PUSSY : Quinn, we would have had a real shot this season if you didn't play like a pussy one too many times. Good luck in the NFL though bro.

85-95 : MOST LIKELY NOT A PUSSY : Quinn did enough to win, but could he have done more? (I admit if we end up here the argument will go on. I'll take my chances)

95-100 : DEFINITELY NOT A PUSSY : You can say what you want about Quinn Ewers, but he ain't no pussy.

100+ : DUDE IS A BOSS : It turns out you guys have just been haters the whole time. Potential Longhorn Legend.

 

Quinn is sitting not-so-pretty at an average of 81.9, which is KIND OF A PUSSY. Pretty much the worst he could end up after the playoffs is PRETTY MUCH A PUSSY, which would be a drop of one category.

He could easily get to MOST LIKELY NOT A PUSSY with a few wins and solid performances. To get to DEFINITELY NOT A PUSSY he would probably have to at least make the championship game and play well.

Crunching a few numbers DUDE IS A BOSS is pretty much only achievable if he wins the whole fucking thing and plays out of his mind the whole time.

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Posted (edited)
43 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

So far Quinn is 1-3 in post season games. 


Alamo Bowl vs Washington L
Big 12 Champ vs Oklahoma St W
CFP Semifinal vs Washington L
SEC Champ vs Georgia L

Sure, he is also 117 for 182 with 1497 yards 7 TDs and 3 INTs. That is a 64% completion rate with and average of 374 yards a game. Something tells me there may be an underlying issue resulting in the losses.

Out of those 4 games the one we won, we out rushed our opponent.

18 rushes for 51 yards-2.8 average=L

40 rushes for 198 yards-5.0 average=W

31 rushes for 102 yards - 3.3 average=L

23 rushes for 31 yards-1.1 average =L

 

Big Humans matter, run the football, everything else takes care of itself.

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1 hour ago, CoTex said:

Beck's qbr for the CCG was 59.5

Quinn's was 70.6

Honest question, does that mean our QB played better than theirs and we still lost?  

 

no. we won 6-3 when quinnn was playing against beck.

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1 hour ago, Valmy77 said:

I think that is a little low but it does demonstrate the point: Quinn is only pretty good.

2,700 yards passing 25 TDs and 9 Ints on 352 attempts. That is fine. Decent. Top 30 QB in the country.

But compared to his ranking out of High School? Compared to his expectations for this year? Disappointing.

2023 Quinn > 2024 Quinn

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1 hour ago, Red Five said:


If he had been David Ash coming out of high school, we’d all be content with his play, but also looking forward to the upgrade coming next year (and also probably pretty confused as to why it didn’t happen this year). Sucks for Quinn that those expectations were there….. but they were. We were thinking Trevor Lawrence and that didn’t exactly happen.

Ash was a better football better than Quinn is turning out to be, Applewhite ruined him. Was starting to throw with anticipation and leading receivers, and he was a much better athlete than Quinn. Ash in this offense and we are much better in the RZ.

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1 minute ago, westexhorn said:

I do wonder if part of this is due to Worthy/Mitchell vs Bond/Golden

Golden is different but has been coming on and is good but he isn't first round. Bond has been bad for a while now. 1st round talent but not production.

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CFP QBs by QBR

1 Dillon Gabriel, Oregon
2 Kurtis Rourke, Indiana
3 Will Howard, Ohio St
4 Drew Allar, Penn St
5 Sam Leavitt, Arizona St
6 Riley Leonard, ND
7 Cade Klubnik, Clemson
8 Kevin Jennings, SMU
9 Maddux Madsen, Boise St
10 Quinn Ewers, Texas
11 Nico Iamaleava, Tenn
12 Gunnar Stockton, Georgia*

*Carson Beck would be ranked 6th if healthy.
 
 

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