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44 minutes ago, chad.ihrig said:

This narrative that “we have to get X many position players every year” is garbage.

How many of our current RBs are gone after this year? None the last I checked. How many did we get last year? Two. Year before was also two, IIRC.

If we swing and miss this year, it makes it more likely to get a dude next year.

Y’all step away from the ledge.

 

28 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

And there is always portal

Stop. Stop that right now. It is time to close our program down. We missed. It is over.

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Has the Lott news not been posted?

 

 

Couple of afternoon recruiting notes

Wanted to pass along a couple of afternoon recruiting notes.

Confidence around Texas remains with 4-star+ EDGE Dre Quinn and 4-star+ DL Vodney Cleveland. 

Texas is also doing pretty well with 4-star+ DL/EDGE Bryce Perry-Wright. But the Texas A&M visit looms. Clemson also in it. 

OTF doesn’t have as much confidence with 4-star++ WR Jalen Lott. Texas had a solid visit, but we believe there is still ground to be made up. USC is strong. Oregon takes their mighty swing this weekend. 

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Posted
1 hour ago, Hornmatic said:

Has the Lott news not been posted?

 

 

Couple of afternoon recruiting notes

Wanted to pass along a couple of afternoon recruiting notes.

Confidence around Texas remains with 4-star+ EDGE Dre Quinn and 4-star+ DL Vodney Cleveland. 

Texas is also doing pretty well with 4-star+ DL/EDGE Bryce Perry-Wright. But the Texas A&M visit looms. Clemson also in it. 

OTF doesn’t have as much confidence with 4-star++ WR Jalen Lott. Texas had a solid visit, but we believe there is still ground to be made up. USC is strong. Oregon takes their mighty swing this weekend. 

USC and Oregon are beating us due to offering more money?

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1 minute ago, westexhorn said:

USC and Oregon are beating us due to offering more money?

While money is always a thing, he's seems like he's liked the idea of the West Coast from the jump, too. DK Moore was like that, too.

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Posted (edited)
11 minutes ago, texifornia said:

While money is always a thing, he's seems like he's liked the idea of the West Coast from the jump, too. DK Moore was like that, too.

This sucks.  Losing DK Moore was understandable but losing Lott would be very disappointing given his ties to Texas.

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Posted
10 minutes ago, westexhorn said:

This sucks.  Losing DK Moore was understandable but losing Lott would be very disappointing given his ties to Texas.

I'm not saying he's gone, but I'm just saying close to home isn't the winning sell for some recruits. (Worked out for us with Ffrench).

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Posted
4 hours ago, chad.ihrig said:

This narrative that “we have to get X many position players every year” is garbage.

How many of our current RBs are gone after this year? None the last I checked. How many did we get last year? Two. Year before was also two, IIRC.

If we swing and miss this year, it makes it more likely to get a dude next year.

Y’all step away from the ledge.

I know we'll sign an RB, but I honestly never really expected two of the quality Sark favors. We're pretty young at the position, and another winter portal will be here by the time the first 2026 HS guys hit campus. Not sure if a new name emerges this summer, but I have a hunch we'll sign a receiving specialist as Sark's next toy out of the backfield. 

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50 minutes ago, texifornia said:

I'm not saying he's gone, but I'm just saying close to home isn't the winning sell for some recruits. (Worked out for us with Ffrench).

If it was about proximity, I’d have mentioned as much. Don’t insert it. His dad is as much in favor of him getting all the money he can as the kid. Fuck both of them and I hope he rots in USC purgatory with Riley if he goes that route. If Oregon, fuck him there too. He has everything he needs at Texas.  

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Posted
12 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

If it was about proximity, I’d have mentioned as much. Don’t insert it. His dad is as much in favor of him getting all the money he can as the kid. Fuck both of them and I hope he rots in USC purgatory with Riley if he goes that route. If Oregon, fuck him there too. He has everything he needs at Texas.  

Come on lol it’s not even that serious. I hate losing out on him to (if that what happens) but no need to bash. 

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3 minutes ago, D3zii said:

Come on lol it’s not even that serious. I hate losing out on him to (if that what happens) but no need to bash. 

Fuck the Brocks!

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Wish we got him, we didn't as of now (Edwards). With our current roster, I'd be fine with no RB this class. Get Kent, short yardage - run here, bingo. He is bigger than some OT we are recruiting - which I think is his place. His footwork at LT would be great. I'm all in for aggie paying huge money for a class. 

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5 minutes ago, hornlife said:

Wish we got him, we didn't as of now (Edwards). With our current roster, I'd be fine with no RB this class. Get Kent, short yardage - run here, bingo. He is bigger than some OT we are recruiting - which I think is his place. His footwork at LT would be great. I'm all in for aggie paying huge money for a class. 

We need to take at least one RB. Let’s be real with ourselves.

Being content with taking no running back in the class is like when Mack Brown was ready to take Terrell Cuney as his only OL commitment for the 2014 class before getting fired.

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Posted (edited)

Wisner and Baxter are draft eligible. Maybe Wisner has a year similar to last and gets a top 3 round grade. That would leave Texas at 5 scholarship RBs before thinking about Baxter jumping to the draft, or even a RB transferring for any number of reasons.  I read Niblett would be involved in the backfield in some capacity this year but I'm not counting him in the numbers until I see it.

Just go steal Ball from Oregon. It's not like they have NIL money to be able to hold onto him.

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6 hours ago, Hookem2147 said:

We need to take at least one RB. Let’s be real with ourselves.

Being content with taking no running back in the class is like when Mack Brown was ready to take Terrell Cuney as his only OL commitment for the 2014 class before getting fired.

I prefer to have a RB in every class, but it is not a necessity. Texas has Baxter (soph), Wisner (JR), Clark (Fr), Gibson (Soph), Stewart (Fr), and Simon (Fr). There is a solid number of bodies in the room. It is not a lock that Texas is even going to lose a single RB after this season. This is also not a position with a long developmental track. RBs can make major contributions early in their careers. This is not a like DL or OL, where you will be reliant on the portal if you miss on a class. Texas was in much worse position at DT and it appears the staff has managed to navigate that minefield. After a few years of hitting the portal hard a DT, next year appears to be the first that it will not be necessary to do so again.  2026 season should have 5-6 Rbs on the depth chart, assuming no transfers. It can be argued that Texas has over-recruited the position by the numbers the last few years. This is not optimal, but it is far from a disaster.  

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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Codaxx said:

I prefer to have a RB in every class, but it is not a necessity. Texas has Baxter (soph), Wisner (JR), Clark (Fr), Gibson (Soph), Stewart (Fr), and Simon (Fr). There is a solid number of bodies in the room. It is not a lock that Texas is even going to lose a single RB after this season.

Baxter- Torn ACL

Wisner- Solid player but probably not a dude you want to hand the rock to 25 times a game consistently

Clark- Torn Achilles 

Gibson- Fumbling issues in a limited sample size

Stewart and Simon- True freshmen we have never seen

From a numbers and classification perspective, sure, we are okay but there are a lot of unknowns and major injuries in the room and I would put the chances at zero that all 6 RB’s return in 2026. I’m assuming Stewart and Simon are probably cool with developmental years this season but do we really think 6 guys who all realistically expect to be getting meaningful carries in 2026 are sticking around to share one football at Texas?

We need to take at least one RB every year.

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Posted (edited)
38 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

Baxter- Torn ACL

Wisner- Solid player but probably not a dude you want to hand the rock to 25 times a game consistently

Clark- Torn Achilles 

Gibson- Fumbling issues in a limited sample size

Stewart and Simon- True freshmen we have never seen

From a numbers and classification perspective, sure, we are okay but there are a lot of unknowns and major injuries in the room and I would put the chances at zero that all 6 RB’s return in 2026. I’m assuming Stewart and Simon are probably cool with developmental years this season but do we really think 6 guys who all realistically expect to be getting meaningful carries in 2026 are sticking around to share one football at Texas?

We need to take at least one RB every year.

Few things:

Wisner: who is a solid RB. I have said he is a better football player than prospect (that could really work for Texas in 2026)

Clark: Already back to practicing. One of the bigger surprises. We will see where he is this year, but I assume he is probably healed by 2026. The season that a current recruit would actually be available

Baxter: Is back to practicing. I am not sure he will be 100% until later in the year, but unless the medical profession took a huge step backwards, he will be 100% in 2026.. 

Gibson: I assume this is a take that a Frosh cannot fix a fumbling issue by the time he is a junior (2026) 

The Freshman: This logic works for anyone that has not played in college, not just the ones on campus currently. If you discount the new freshmen, should you not do that for any recruit? 

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We need to take at least one RB every year.

Texas has taken 2 RBs the last 3 years, so by your standard Texas has over recruited the position. That gives them flexibility/insurance. There is not another position on the roster that Texas has recruited a 2 deep the last 3 years. 

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Posted

Bobby Burton

 

If you don’t have the stomach for it, you shouldn’t follow recruiting.

Texas lost one of its top running back targets yesterday to Texas A&M in Carthage’s KJ Edwards. Edward’s was long considered a Texas lean until other factors came into play.

The Aggies are pushing the limits on NIL this year in recruiting with apparent little regard to the House Settlement.

Have they found a loophole or work-around? Or are they confident the rules of engagement will change yet again by the time December’s signing period rolls around (not a bad bet IMO)?

Whatever the case may be, it’s clear A&M is upping the ante. How Texas responds will tell the tale.

Yet, it’s in times like these that I remember something Mack Brown told me 25 years ago.

I’ll paraphrase here:

“Focus on the ones you bring into the program. Not the ones you lost. At most, you’ll see the player you lost no more than four days in four years.

But the ones you sign, you’ll see them every day. Focus on building those guys up.”

Of course, Brown was no poor recruiter. And the better the talent on the way in to a program, the better chance a coach will have to “build” a special player and team.

In sum, Texas fans should certainly register the losses - losses can tell us something - but the real focus should be on who Texas is adding to the class. Are those recruits, the ones who commit, good enough to win a national championship? If so, that’s what really matters, not the immediate feelings of loss or being jilted.

In other words, you’re always going to lose some in recruiting. But it’s who you sign that matters most.

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For those looking for the “sky is falling” recruiting prophecy here, sorry you won’t get it.

This has seemingly happened every summer of Sark’s tenure in Austin. And so far, Sark and his staff have navigated the rocky waters just fine.

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Posted (edited)
33 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

Few things:

Wisner: who is a solid RB. I have said he is a better football player than prospect (that could really work for Texas in 2026)

Clark: Already back to practicing. One of the bigger surprises. We will see where he is this year, but I assume he is probably healed by 2026. The season that a current recruit would actually be available

Baxter: Is back to practicing. I am not sure he will be 100% until later in the year, but unless the medical profession took a huge step backwards, he will be 100% in 2026.. 

Gibson: I assume this is a take that a Frosh cannot fix a fumbling issue by the time he is a junior (2026) 

The Freshman: This logic works for anyone that has not played in college, not just the ones on campus currently. If you discount the new freshmen, should you not do that for any recruit? 

We are talking about guys coming off major leg injuries. That is great they are running around in the summer but the tough part hasn’t even begun for either.

No one is saying this RB group can’t be good and there aren’t good players in there, but if the justification for passing on a RB for an entire cycle is looking at a current room of 1 good RB and 5 dudes who have barely played football or are coming off major leg surgeries and saying we are good here, that is a gamble.

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Besides K/P, a successful football team must recruit and fill a minimum number of spots at every position every year. The portal, injuries, draft, and development can change roster projections so quickly. Any successful team needs a reliable pipeline of talent at every position that can withstand this variability.

Coaches have ~3 years to evaluate and recruit enough quality players to bring in a minimum number of players at each position every year. There isn't a reason for a successful football team to say they can't find the right fit at a position. The players are there. 

Posted
9 minutes ago, Danimal said:

Besides K/P, a successful football team must recruit and fill a minimum number of spots at every position every year. The portal, injuries, draft, and development can change roster projections so quickly. Any successful team needs a reliable pipeline of talent at every position that can withstand this variability.

Coaches have ~3 years to evaluate and recruit enough quality players to bring in a minimum number of players at each position every year. There isn't a reason for a successful football team to say they can't find the right fit at a position. The players are there. 

Correct. And the idea that we can just portal one in, while not wrong, is misguided. If we find ourselves in a position where a portal transfer is a critical need, that depletes our portal resources  to get a player at a non-premium position that doesn't have the benefit of multiple years in the program. On top of that, RB is probably the position with the highest risk of injury. We've relied on true freshman for high leverage snaps each of the last two seasons at the position, you need depth. 

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Am I the only guy who is going to be really surprised if Texas doesn't wind up signing at least one quality RB in the 2026 class? It just seems farfetched that they go 0-fer at a position like that. Maybe they have to dig deeper in their evaluations to find a new fit, but there's time for a brand and program like Texas with this recruiting staff and the NIL machine. Discussion about not signing an RB seems absurd. Evaluating the 2026 RB room is even more ludicrous. The odds are there's 2, maybe 3 guys from the current roster as part of that group. 

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53 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

We are talking about guys coming off major leg injuries. That is great they are running around in the summer but the tough part hasn’t even begun for either.

No one is saying this RB group can’t be good and there aren’t good players in there, but if the justification for passing on a RB for an entire cycle is looking at a current room of 1 good RB and 5 dudes who have barely played football or are coming off major leg surgeries and saying we are good here, that is a gamble.

Its not a justification for passing on RBs, you are taking my comments out of context. It is simply saying missing a RB in this cycle is not panic worthy. Of course I would love a 5 star RB in this cycle, but if Texas is going to miss on a position, RB is probably the least painful one. That assumes that Texas misses on a RB in this cycle, which I think is a sub 40% chance of happening. t

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4 minutes ago, kevwun said:

This shit always works out, there's no point in lathering yourselves in to a tizzy.

Yup. Every year for the last three years. And if these losses are about NIL, we can always counter-offer down the line when the budget shakes out.

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Good RBs are all over the place. Not the unicorns like Bijan, but KJ Edwards types. And we may still end up with him anyway, which would be hilarious and would make all this worthwhile.

Posted
22 minutes ago, kevwun said:

This shit always works out, there's no point in lathering yourselves in to a tizzy.

Exactly.  Everyone cool thy tits.

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We have flipped a key aggy recruit what seems like every season since Sarkisian took over. With Hill and Smith being the two latest examples. Maybe we take an offensive player this cycle.

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