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1 hour ago, texifornia said:

"This one deserves a little more buzz than it generated" - no one gives a shit, sorry dude.

I beg your pardon, sir. William went on:

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I was at a chess tournament, and all play stopped when this news riffled through the room.

I read that a cattle stampede out on the prairie just stopped when cowboys called out the news.

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6 minutes ago, Fondren & Main said:

What happens when they start losing?

These dudes will get paid and then transfer at some point.  Or just get fat and high and cash checks. 

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1 minute ago, Scholz said:

These dudes will get paid and then transfer at some point.  Or just get fat and high and cash checks. 

Must be fun to send texts to recruits middle of a dogshit season of a dogshit team lol.  "Hey, just seeing if you've changed your mind?  Rough couple of games, huh?"

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1 hour ago, Texasborn91 said:

They have a good class. Wake me up in December. 

If a Cat 5 hurricane doesn't hit this summer, checks are gonna bounce. 

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I think the wise men of this board have said that they can see A&M finishing sixth or even fifth. 

Are these acquisitions surprising to you?

Am I correct about the prediction above and is that still the consensus.

I find it hard to worry about the Aggies due to the poor performance of their most talented players for much of last season. That end (Scourton?) lit things up early, but the rest of the line...well, you know. They collapsed at the end of their season kind of like their super-duper baseball team shit themselves against Missouri.

Why couldn't Elko get more out of these guys? Signs point to a still-rotten culture. 

Anyway, thanks for the answers to come.

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If every player they want signs with them in December, it still doesn't really matter. We have seen this movie before. They already literally signed the highest-rated class in the history of ever. The dross will take up roster spots, and the mercenaries will either bleed them dry while only playing well just enough to absorb aggy cash or will portal away to big 10 schools.

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The fat bastard loves to hear himself talk

 

 


Key notes from Billy Liucci

  • To land KJ Edwards‍, this was one that surprised us yesterday in terms of when it happened. I don’t think we woke up yesterday expecting an Edwards announcement. I’m not positive Mike Elko woke up expecting it. What they did know is that A&M was way more in the mix for Edwards than people thought, and they were really sitting in a good position for him for a while. Even when Jonathan Hatton Jr‍ committed, you felt like they could end up getting both of those guys because there was a need for more than one. The two seemed like they fit in terms of style. Texas did a lot, and LSU did a lot to convince the people covering them and both of those fan bases that they were the teams to beat. I’m reading some of the Texas stuff saying A&M made a late push, but A&M has been there through the entire process. I think LSU and Texas underestimated A&M as a possibility.
     
  • They load up at a position to the point where you think they can’t take another one, then they do. I remember Mack Brown. There was a certain player A&M was going to fight Texas for. It was a one-sided beatdown, and Brown was just grabbing all of these offensive linemen. Then you assume the seventh guy, A&M should get, then Texas went and got him.
     
  • When you’re elite, you can get the two unquestioned best running backs in Texas. Trooper Taylor is an elite recruiter. He always has been his whole career. That’s a unique name. Anyone from any Texas college has heard of Taylor for years. He is an ace on this staff. I love the way Adam Cushing recruits for what they’re looking for. He has more tricks up his sleeve coming up. I think we are realizing why Holmon Wiggins was hired as the receiver coach at Alabama before A&M.
     
  • I’m talking about the offensive side of the ball. I think Elko has a really good recruiting staff on that side of the ball. We’ll talk about Brandon Arrington‍ in a second because Jordan Peterson is starting to make a real name for himself.
     
  • I do think part of it is when it’s national and coast to coast, the days of pulling up the “Texas Top 10” and seeing who gets the most off this list of A&M, Texas or Oklahoma are gone. Then, you started seeing more of them go out of state, and now, A&M is going to start adding Texas kids a lot more frequently in the next run of commits. When you look at some of these guys. I think a lot of it with national recruits, like Arrington, who is announcing tomorrow, everyone is gassed up to see who wins out on him of A&M and Oregon. Some of these lesser-known national guys, particularly ones that A&M gets on campus and gets commits from early, the fans haven’t gotten emotionally invested in.
     
  • I think the Aggies have an excellent shot with Tristian Givens‍. My point is when Jamarion Carlton‍ from Temple visits Texas, and the Aggies cancel their visit... Instead of melting down and panicking on the message boards about a coaching staff that’s putting together a top-five class, if not higher, maybe take a second and see where he ranks nationally with the other guys A&M is trying to get. It’s the same thing with this WR/DB in Cypress, Paris Melvin Jr‍. He flips out his A&M visit for Texas, and people melt down. I don’t know what kind of take he was at that point.
     
  • If you’re going to go that negative on something, you have to be that much more positive when they get Samuel Roseborough‍ over Texas a week after his official visit there. You can be negative, but match that energy by being positive and giving credit when there’s good. People talk about Maroon-colored glasses. Whatever the opposite is, take them off and throw them away. Start enjoying the good.
     
  • They landed Edwards, an elite football player, a game-changing back. He is a game breaker, and if he weren’t running in Maroon & White, he’d be in Purple & Gold or Burnt Orange. Everybody is excited about him, but you should’ve been excited about Roseborough. You should be excited about Arrington and Camren Hamiel‍. Get up to speed with what is actually happening with this stuff. We’re talking about landing a five-star running back, and more of the comments from Aggie fans are that, “We’ve seen this before, and we’ll go 8-4 anyway.” If that’s your mindset, I don’t understand why you follow it. You’re allowed to enjoy it and have the common sense to understand they have to develop him and keep him on campus. But you can also see it’s a completely different coaching staff, and that 2022 recruiting class was an outlier. The top five recruiting classes typically win you football games. Just because it backfired once doesn’t mean you don’t want to be there. It’s almost like they’d rather not get the good players and have them magically turn up.
     
  • You have to know how much money Texas is throwing around in NIL money. Texas Tech openly brags about it. A&M would rather it not be openly advertised. I wish fans would understand A&M is doing well on the NIL front, and you could always do better, but that’s part of why they don’t want those numbers out. Sometimes it’s just good old-fashioned recruiting. It’s a guy like Taylor, and there’s still recruiting that has to be done because everyone is offering NIL money and more this year than they ever have.
     
  • I’ve reached out directly to sources out west about Arrington that feel like that has been trending significantly A&M’s way the last few days. One of those situations where you’re 24 hours from the finish line. You have reasons to feel good about it, but you know it’s not across the finish line.
     
  • Even last year in that cornerback class, I think part of it is not just that Peterson is an Aggie, it’s that he came from Kansas. I go back to a guy Kevin Sumlin told me he was going to hire. It was David Beaty. He did an amazing job recruiting wide receivers to A&M while he was here. Really putting A&M back on the map in DFW, where they had been a non-factor for several years prior. Whether it was Mike Sherman or Dennis Franchione, it was a problem. Oklahoma was rolling the way they were. Beaty really turned it around. He was at Kansas at the time. He had gone from high school to Rice to Kansas. Peterson got his first job at Fresno with Tim DeRuyter when he got the head job. I know when Elko hired him, part of it was that he had a reputation for recruiting lights out at Kansas. He brought some real talent there that ended up in the NFL. The question was if he could translate it to A&M. I think Elko made the right call because he’s just a great recruiter.
     
  • Everybody talks about Jeff Banks as one of the best recruiters in the country. I mention him because he was at A&M, but he got hired by Nick Saban. Then he left for Texas. But when he got to A&M, nobody gave a damn about him because everyone was worried about losing Brian Polian because he had a name at Stanford before. Then you hire a former punter from UTEP who didn’t have a name at all to the A&M fanbase. I think Peterson is quietly kicking ass on the trail right now.
     
  • I always prefer when coaches make a name for themselves somewhere else first. That carries more weight to me. Real quick, Edwards again. A&M has a couple of spectacular skill players committed in this class. There’s more, but Aaron Gregory‍, Edwards and Hatton... Those guys are potential game changers. Edwards is electric. You watch that tape. He had 11-something yards per carry. We talked yesterday about what will set A&M up. The one box I don’t know if they’ll have checked is whether they'll have skill players who will be top five at their position in the conference. There are dynamic players all across the field on any team in the SEC. Edwards absolutely has that juice.
     
  • I could think about six guys off the top of my head that I absolutely think they are going to land, and I’m probably forgetting one. I think the Edwards addition is going to set off a little run here. I could see them landing three guys who are borderline five-star players between now and then. That’s not factoring in Lamar Brown‍ or Tristen Keys‍, who A&M is now in the mix for. Jase Mathews‍, too. I think there will be another player or two that they see add that people weren’t really expecting
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Posted
2 minutes ago, Fondren & Main said:

The strategy at aggy and USC is hilarious.  Promise the world today and crash and burn tomorrow.  How many of these guys will be at aggy for more than one cycle?

We have seen this train wreck:

- Overpay a bunch of incoming freshman.  Many of those are coming only because the money was too much to say no to.

- Older players get pissed they are in contributing/starting roles and their backups are making more

- Older players don't welcome or integrate the younger guys leading to culture issues

- Older players transfer out of the program leading the younger players starting when they are not physically or mentally ready.

- 5-7 loss season ensues because you're playing a bunch of young players, lack depth, and experience.

- Same players portal out because they do not want to play for a losing program, realize they are putting out bad film, and are not getting developed.

- Aggy fires their coach.

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Exclusive: Texas A&M recruiting staff salaries revealed

Derek Miller, general manager: $200,000
Walter Juliff, senior personnel executive: $150,000
Allen Gaudet, director of player personnel: $100,000
DJ Mann, assistant director of player personnel: $90,000
Kianna Jasper, director of on-campus recruiting: $80,000
Shaun Cook, assistant director of player personnel: $75,000
Joe Joe Headen, scouting assistant: $75,000
Maya Howard, assistant director of on-campus recruiting: $70,000
DJ Marquardt, scouting assistant: $65,000
Lauren Moore, coordinator of on-campus recruiting: $55,000

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7 hours ago, victory88 said:

We have seen this train wreck:

- Overpay a bunch of incoming freshman.  Many of those are coming only because the money was too much to say no to.

- Older players get pissed they are in contributing/starting roles and their backups are making more

- Older players don't welcome or integrate the younger guys leading to culture issues

- Older players transfer out of the program leading the younger players starting when they are not physically or mentally ready.

- 5-7 loss season ensues because you're playing a bunch of young players, lack depth, and experience.

- Same players portal out because they do not want to play for a losing program, realize they are putting out bad film, and are not getting developed.

- Aggy fires their coach.

College football programs can now put themselves into NFL rebuild cap hell situations. You fire a coach and all the quality players portal out. Your roster is dirt cheap but crap, so you go big and spend all your money on rookies (HS recruits) and free agents (portal). Now all your vets leave but you have your new expensive signing class, but you have to also sign your new class and cheap out on that because you’re having to now pay your current roster. You are  never able to successfully build depth or continuity and you fire your coach for underperforming so you start the process all over again. This is must watch TV because we are now getting into an era where programs can destroy themselves for years at a time and require full scale institutional rebuilds beyond just hiring a new coach. At least in the NFL they have contracts, the draft, rookie pay scales and mandatory league reporting to add clarity and transparency to what’s going on.

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William getting the fart-huffing band back together. They're elite! How elite?

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Higher than top five! They'll be in the top five just above the top five.

William goes into schizo gear:

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1 Okay, we're talking about coaches.

2 Somewhere else is the only place A&M coaches can make a name for themselves.

3 Okay, we're not talking about coaches. We're talking about Edwards.

4 Okay, we're talking about two unnamed skill guys. Spectacular ones! 

5 Now four guys followed by ellipses!

6 Just about everybody is a potential game changer, Excitable Boy William.

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Holy shit! What are we doing to do if Aggy money whips an elite class together?!?! How will we compete?! Oh shit, they’ve already tried to do that. And they ended up with a bunch of unmotivated disinterested football players that only care about themselves. This is an absolute perception war. These dudes will spend 2 weeks on campus and be miserable. 

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55 minutes ago, Elmer_Fudd said:

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This is sooo their problem. All someone has to do is "get" A&M and they will see it's paradise on Earth just like the TexAgs Aggies do. These aren't mercenaries like everyone else has to get because they are not A&M; these are solid kids with good heads on their shoulders who value an honor code and the 12th man. 

And they have to believe that this guy:

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Is some kind of dynamic closer for recruits who can make them realize their heretofore unrecognized dream to become an Aggie. A Texas Aggie from Texas!

Elko sure had his team looking like well disciplined champions the last five games of last season.

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Maybe this time it's for real!

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