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21 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

Did anyone watch Underwood this season and see the #1 QB recruit material for which he was hyped? He seemed okay. No doubt he will get better, but I didn't see a wizard on the field. 

He has the tools no doubt, but he absolutely hit a ceiling early in the season and really stopped getting better. On the flip side, Arch improved throughout the season. 

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51 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

Did anyone watch Underwood this season and see the #1 QB recruit material for which he was hyped? He seemed okay. No doubt he will get better, but I didn't see a wizard on the field. 

I agree, but then I wonder about how to form any conclusions about any QB in a Sherrone Moore offense.

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1 hour ago, LCHorn said:

I know we're supposed to think these guys are super jaggy, but we're also losing a lot of depth/development pieces in the secondary.  

Right now our in-house options are Jonah Williams to replace Taafe and true frosh Zelus Hicks.

2nd string nickel is a walk-on who's major contribution is making the honor roll twice.  In the Big 12.    

Obviously this exaggerates things because we can move guys around (Gerry and Bobby think Kobe Black goes to safety, for example), but I think it's going to be hard to recruit back-ups into programs, which basically means you're churning through portal dudes every season and selling them on playing in a rotation (and then they portal back out when it's clear they don't have the athleticism/experience to start).  

 

No one thinks Mack is a JAG. Williams on the other hand just isn't the player he used to be.

Posted
1 hour ago, closetojumping said:

Did anyone watch Underwood this season and see the #1 QB recruit material for which he was hyped? He seemed okay. No doubt he will get better, but I didn't see a wizard on the field. 

Think Moore shitcanning himself ends up being beneficial for Underwood's QB development

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1 hour ago, LCHorn said:

I know we're supposed to think these guys are super jaggy, but we're also losing a lot of depth/development pieces in the secondary.  

Right now our in-house options are Jonah Williams to replace Taafe and true frosh Zelus Hicks.

2nd string nickel is a walk-on who's major contribution is making the honor roll twice.  In the Big 12.    

Obviously this exaggerates things because we can move guys around (Gerry and Bobby think Kobe Black goes to safety, for example), but I think it's going to be hard to recruit back-ups into programs, which basically means you're churning through portal dudes every season and selling them on playing in a rotation (and then they portal back out when it's clear they don't have the athleticism/experience to start).  

 

That's the modern bowl season in a nutshell.

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1 hour ago, closetojumping said:

Did anyone watch Underwood this season and see the #1 QB recruit material for which he was hyped? He seemed okay. No doubt he will get better, but I didn't see a wizard on the field. 

He wasn't all-world, but he also just turned 18 in August. Pretty fucking good, especially with the dual threat. Not really sure we want him winding up in Lane's lap.

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1 hour ago, closetojumping said:

Did anyone watch Underwood this season and see the #1 QB recruit material for which he was hyped? He seemed okay. No doubt he will get better, but I didn't see a wizard on the field. 

I watched several Michigan games this year. He’s slow to process things and has poor pocket awareness, but he’s also an elusive runner and has flashed an elite arm. I believe it was the Nebraska game, while getting hit he zipped an NFL-level throw to a tight end that was blanketed by an safety. Just a 20 yard completion in the box score but if I was a scout it’d get me interested for sure.

52 minutes ago, Vertigo said:

He has the tools no doubt, but he absolutely hit a ceiling early in the season and really stopped getting better. On the flip side, Arch improved throughout the season. 

True, but Arch is a 21 year old third year player, Underwood is a barely 18 true freshman. 

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5 minutes ago, SimkinsMan said:

He wasn't all-world, but he also just turned 18 in August. Pretty fucking good, especially with the dual threat. Not really sure we want him winding up in Lane's lap.

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I watched him a good deal and think when given space/time he was top notch. I think similar to Texas' QB more of his issues were team and youth related than ability limitations. 

1 minute ago, Park Gothic said:

I don't like this new thing where you say reasonable and factually accurate stuff. 

It's extremely off putting particularly the logical tone. 

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I don't like this new thing where you say reasonable and factually accurate stuff. 

I had a joke all lined up like “pretend his name is Bajomadera” and couldn’t even use it.
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18 minutes ago, Helobious said:

I watched several Michigan games this year. He’s slow to process things and has poor pocket awareness, but he’s also an elusive runner and has flashed an elite arm. I believe it was the Nebraska game, while getting hit he zipped an NFL-level throw to a tight end that was blanketed by an safety. Just a 20 yard completion in the box score but if I was a scout it’d get me interested for sure.

True, but Arch is a 21 year old third year player, Underwood is a barely 18 true freshman. 

Underwood's real name is actually Montebajo confirmed. 

4 minutes ago, Red Five said:


I had a joke all lined up like “pretend his name is Bajomadera” and couldn’t even use it.

Fuck you beat me to it.

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16 minutes ago, Park Gothic said:

I don't like this new thing where you say reasonable and factually accurate stuff. 

Well not fully factually accurate I guess. I actually found the play I was thinking of, 4:25 mark of below vid. It was against Washington. Pressure in his face, off his back foot but it shows just how special his arm is.

 

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I am really surprised Neto isn't in the portal. I know his brother is on the team, but losing your presumptive starting spot to Connor Stroh, and then to a true freshman who quite literally could not pass block, has to be one of the biggest slaps in the face imaginable. 

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1 minute ago, Reynolds Woodcock said:

I am really surprised Neto isn't in the portal. I know his brother is on the team, but losing your presumptive starting spot to Connor Stroh, and then to a true freshman who quite literally could not pass block, has to be one of the biggest slaps in the face imaginable. 

I wonder if his parents want him to get a UT degree first if the staff will keep him around. 

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2 hours ago, LCHorn said:

I know we're supposed to think these guys are super jaggy, but we're also losing a lot of depth/development pieces in the secondary.  

Right now our in-house options are Jonah Williams to replace Taafe and true frosh Zelus Hicks.

2nd string nickel is a walk-on who's major contribution is making the honor roll twice.  In the Big 12.    

Obviously this exaggerates things because we can move guys around (Gerry and Bobby think Kobe Black goes to safety, for example), but I think it's going to be hard to recruit back-ups into programs, which basically means you're churning through portal dudes every season and selling them on playing in a rotation (and then they portal back out when it's clear they don't have the athleticism/experience to start).  

 

I had some of the same thoughts about Vasek, as he's come up some on here recently. Obviously there's injury concerns in his case, but to me that seems like a guy you'd like to keep around because you need depth that you feel good about playing. The roster can't just be badass starters, freshmen behind them, and nothing else. As you say, getting experienced guys out of the portal to fill out your 2nd string probably isn't going to be very easy.

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7 minutes ago, BlackCat said:

I wonder if his parents want him to get a UT degree first if the staff will keep him around. 

Yeah, I think it unlikely, but possible that perhaps some reason set in that focusing on a degree given facts about one's career future. That or the self confidence (misplaced or not) that he can battle back are logical possibilities. 

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4 minutes ago, tokamak said:

I had some of the same thoughts about Vasek, as he's come up some on here recently. Obviously there's injury concerns in his case, but to me that seems like a guy you'd like to keep around because you need depth that you feel good about playing. The roster can't just be badass starters, freshmen behind them, and nothing else. As you say, getting experienced guys out of the portal to fill out your 2nd string probably isn't going to be very easy.

Explain to the rest of us how you're viewing Vasek as "depth". I don't mean selling us on potential, because that shit doesn't pay the rent. How is this dude "depth" from your perspective?

If Texas wants to add actual depth at Edge that has a history of production and, you know, being able to play in most games, they very well can sell their rotation to quality targets in the portal. The notion that they can't is flatly debunked by the reality that they have already done it. 

I'm not saying that anything is certain until someone actually gets in the motherfucker, but if Vasek has a 6 figure ask, I wouldn't blame Texas for encouraging him to go find it and then bringing in someone else in his stead. If the dude is free? Sure, keep him and get another guy anyway if you're worried about "depth". 

Texas will likely have 40+ guys on its roster from last season (2025) on there next season (2026), plus transfers and true freshmen. That's plenty of depth that isn't just "starters or true freshmen". Some of you guys are handwringing like middle managers who might have to fire someone for the first time.

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2 hours ago, closetojumping said:

Did anyone watch Underwood this season and see the #1 QB recruit material for which he was hyped? He seemed okay. No doubt he will get better, but I didn't see a wizard on the field. 

The best true freshmen qb I saw this year was Carr at ND and the Pittsburgh QB

Posted
16 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

Some of you guys are handwringing like middle managers who might have to fire someone for the first time.

You just stop paying them and move them to the basement. 

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Posted
19 minutes ago, EverybodyGoDeep said:

Bear Bachmeier at BYU was pretty good too as an 18 year old freshman

I only saw him in both Tech games. He literally could not complete anything that wasn’t a quick and easy screen or slant. No arm strength, and he runs like Tebow if Tebow played like a bitch. He was wildly overrated by the media this year. 

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3 hours ago, closetojumping said:

Did anyone watch Underwood this season and see the #1 QB recruit material for which he was hyped? He seemed okay. No doubt he will get better, but I didn't see a wizard on the field. 

He was a true freshman with a mediocre offense around him.  How did Arch look the first 3/4 of the season? And he's had 2 years in the program to sit and learn. 

Just stupid expectations

Posted
1 hour ago, Reynolds Woodcock said:

I am really surprised Neto isn't in the portal. I know his brother is on the team, but losing your presumptive starting spot to Connor Stroh, and then to a true freshman who quite literally could not pass block, has to be one of the biggest slaps in the face imaginable. 

Maybe the coaches are receiving $9.95 kickbacks to keep him around. lol

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We're talking about portal! Not a game! Not a game! We're talking about portal! (Thurs. 12:05pm CST)

By Gerry Hamilton

We're talking about portal! Not a game! Not a game! We're talking about portal! 

Let's talk about portal to start Thursday morning. OTF takes a look at what positions of need there are. 

Quarterback 
Expected to return: Arch Manning and KJ Lacey.
Incoming: Dia Bell
Gone portaling: Trey Owens

OTF: An experienced QB as a third teamer is something we are watching. KJ Lacey will be a solid No. 2. A redshirt is preferred and expected for Dia Bell. Doubtful Sark wants to be in a similar position as Missouri this season if the unthinkable happens. 

Running back 
Expected/possibility to return: James Simon, Christian Clark, Tre Wisner
Incoming: Derreck Cooper and Jett Walker
Still monitoring: Tre Wisner (NFL), Christian Clark
Gone portaling: CJ Baxter, Jerrick Gibson. Rickey Stewart expected as well. 

OTF: An experienced and front line back is definitely on the wish list.

Wide receiver 
Expected/eligble to return: Emmett Mosley, Parker Livingston, Ryan Wingo, Daylon McCutcheon, Deandre Moore, Jamie Ffrench, Kaliq Lockett
Incoming: Jermaine Bishop Jr., Kohen Brown, Chris Stewart
Still monitoring: Deandre Moore, and couple of others
Gone portaling: Aaron Butler

OTF: An impact wide receiver is definitely being monitored by OTF. 

Tight end
Expected/possible to return: Jordan Washington, Nick Townsend, Emaree Winston and Spencer Shannon
Incoming: Charlie Jilek
Still monitoring: Jack Endries (NFL), and others

OTF: A tight end is a possibility, and will be a need if Endries goes to the NFL or someone else hits the portal.

Offensive line
Starter expected to return: RT Brandon Baker
Incoming: OT John Turntine III, OG Kaden Scherer, C/G Nicolas Robertson 
Still monitoring: OT Trevor Goosby (NFL), C Connor Robertson and others
Gone portaling: LG Connor Stroh

OTF: Three or four will be the number, depending on the NFL decision by Trevor Goosby. Right now, it's three interior players out of the portal.

Defensive line
Expected/eligible to return: Hero Kanu, Alex January, Maraad Watson, Josiah Sharma, Myron Charles, Justus Terry, Lavon Johnson
Incoming: James Johnson and Jamarion Carlton
Still monitoring: Hero Kanu (NFL) and Lavon Johnson.
Gone portaling: Melvin Hills III

OTF: Two over the ball players are possible. And not out of the question the number could reach three, but a third would be a 3-tech disruptor if anyone jumps in the portal. 

EDGE
Expected/eligible to return: Colin Simmons, Lance Jackson, Zina Umeozulu, Brad Spence, Smith Orogbo, Colton Vasek
Incoming: Richard Wesley
Still monitoring: A couple.
Gone portaling: 

OTF: One pass rusher is definitely possible. 

Linebacker
Expected/eligible to return: Ty'Anthony Smith, Liona Lefau, Bo Barnes, Jonathan Cunningham 
Incoming: Tyler Atkinson, Rocky Cummings, hybrid LB/EDGE Kosi Okpala
Still monitoring:
Gone portaling: 

OTF: One 'backer is a definite.

Defensive back
Expected/eligible to return: Jelani McDonald, Kade Phillips, Xavier Filsaime, Graceson Littleton, Derek Williams Jr., Kobe Black, Warren Roberson, Jonah WIlliams, Jordon Johnson-Rubell, Wardell Mack, Zelus Hicks, Caleb Chester
Incoming: CB Samari Matthews, N/S Yaheim Riley, S/DB Hayward Howard Jr., S Toray Davis
Still monitoring: Malik Muhammad (NFL), Jelani McDonald (NFL), Wardell Mack and a couple of others.
Gone portaling: Santana Wilson, Derrick Williams

OTF: A combination of three at corner, safety and nickel are likely/definitely needed, and strong possibilities. 

Specialists
Incoming: P Milkey Bukauskas, K Jake Collett, LS Trott O'Neal
Gone portaling: K Will Stone

OTF: An experienced kicker seems like a given, and experienced punter or LS is a possibility. 

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Posted
28 minutes ago, Helobious said:

I only saw him in both Tech games. He literally could not complete anything that wasn’t a quick and easy screen or slant. No arm strength, and he runs like Tebow if Tebow played like a bitch. He was wildly overrated by the media this year. 

So you only watched him in by far his two worst games and have an opinion on his whole season? It's like only watching Arch against Ohio State and UTEP.

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1 hour ago, closetojumping said:

Explain to the rest of us how you're viewing Vasek as "depth". I don't mean selling us on potential, because that shit doesn't pay the rent. How is this dude "depth" from your perspective?

If Texas wants to add actual depth at Edge that has a history of production and, you know, being able to play in most games, they very well can sell their rotation to quality targets in the portal. The notion that they can't is flatly debunked by the reality that they have already done it. 

I'm not saying that anything is certain until someone actually gets in the motherfucker, but if Vasek has a 6 figure ask, I wouldn't blame Texas for encouraging him to go find it and then bringing in someone else in his stead. If the dude is free? Sure, keep him and get another guy anyway if you're worried about "depth". 

Texas will likely have 40+ guys on its roster from last season (2025) on there next season (2026), plus transfers and true freshmen. That's plenty of depth that isn't just "starters or true freshmen". Some of you guys are handwringing like middle managers who might have to fire someone for the first time.

Vasek's just an example. If they feel like he's not over the injury stuff, or he's not actually good enough to hold the fort in the event of a Lance Jackson injury, then sure cut him loose. But it's interesting to me reading this thread and others around Surly, and you'll find damn near every player who isn't a surefire starter or a freshman discussed as a transfer possibility. And on an individual, player-to-player basis, that makes total sense. But we do have to fill out a depth chart, whether it's with guys that are already here or ones from the portal.

I mentioned Vasek specifically because I was looking at our depth chart at edge the other day. You've got Simmons and Jackson as your starters. Great. Spence mixing in, that's good. Then Zina, who I feel like I haven't seen much about, and Orogbo who I'm almost certain I saw something along the lines of "promising but not ready". I'd say you need at least one more body in that mix. You can go to the portal and get the edge version of, I dunno, Cole Brevard, to come in and join the rotation and it likely works out OK. But it's not free; by definition you have to pay that guy more than what his current team is willing or able to pay him. Not to mention you don't really know what kind of guy he is, don't have a great handle on his medicals, etc.

The post I responded to was concerned with losing the sort of "middle class" of our roster. Guys that probably ain't gonna end up stars but can fill out the depth chart. To be perfectly honest, I don't remember Vasek hardly at all this season but the official stats claim he played in all 12 games. Seems like he could fall into that category, unless, as you say, the ask is nonsense.

Posted (edited)

FCB with a few portal/roster notes

-Texas wants Connor Robertson to return, but Robertson knows they are about to load up in the portal at OL so he is unsure what he wants to do for his final year.

-"It might be unlikely for both Kobe Black and Warren Roberson to return. I'm hearing Black, who is coming off of a strong performance against Texas A&M, which included an interception, is leaning toward returning as long as his exit meeting with coaches goes well."

-Wisner is leaning towards returning

-Gibson did not like Chad Scott. One of the reasons he left the program midseason.

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Interesting that Gerry is confident about 3 IOL. I really hope that's true but honestly I'm not getting my hopes up for more than 2 and even 1 seems possible. Unless we fire Flood and the new guy wants to remake the room.

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7 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

-"It might be unlikely for both Kobe Black and Warren Roberson to return.”

Black vs Roberson should be the easiest decision this coaching staff will ever have to make. 

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Interesting that Gerry is confident about 3 IOL. I really hope that's true but honestly I'm not getting my hopes up for more than 2 and even 1 seems possible. Unless we fire Flood and the new guy wants to remake the room.

1 would be coaching suicide. It would guarantee that someone like Jackson Christian would be starting. And maybe Cruz.
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3 minutes ago, TXRed said:

 

Black vs Roberson should be the easiest decision this coaching staff will ever have to make. 

For real. Roberson can get the fuck out. Dude is a moron and a liability. 

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15 minutes ago, tokamak said:

Interesting that Gerry is confident about 3 IOL. I really hope that's true but honestly I'm not getting my hopes up for more than 2 and even 1 seems possible. Unless we fire Flood and the new guy wants to remake the room.

It's not going to just be one, holy shit.

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The problem about predicting OL numbers in the portal is that I keep wanting to say “… depending on what the coaches think about Kibble, the Colemans, etc” when they have already proven their evaluations based on practice are garbage. So can we count on those guys, Christian, Cruz, etc? I have no fucking clue. They could be decent or they could all be Strohs.

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