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4 hours ago, closetojumping said:

Not one of those guys would take a job that reports to a guy like Nagy, but the bigger overall issue is that a coach needs money to win big and OU just doesn't have it. There is no cavalry coming.

Seriously....

Sark is set up at Texas, he wouldn't even pick up the fucking phone
Day just won a title, so the natives can forgive the Michigan losses, and if Day think the Buckeye fans are restless after losing to Michigan, OU fans would burn his house down for losing 4 in a row to Texas
Freeman ain't leaving ND, he has the largest alumni base, a TV network that caters to them and money galore
DeBoer is at the modern-day bluebloodest school in the country

Kiffin is the only one I could see entertaining it, but he needs money to portal hunt.  OU ain't got that. 

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Against p4 teams, wazzu scored 24 against Washington (mid to poor team), 24 against Boise st (good team), and then 35 in a bowl game against Syracuse (no idea who played for either side).  It’s interesting that they aren’t able to acknowledge even the possibility that the new OC/qb combo might struggle with the increase in defensive talent faced.  Their arguments are over whether they will be just real good, or great. 

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4 hours ago, Hookem2147 said:

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WTF?  So the guy who has been running the Senior Bowl and has been primariy and NFL scout is now qualified to make decisions on medical matters? 

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4 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Against p4 teams, wazzu scored 24 against Washington (mid to poor team), 24 against Boise st (good team), and then 35 in a bowl game against Syracuse (no idea who played for either side).  It’s interesting that they aren’t able to acknowledge even the possibility that the new OC/qb combo might struggle with the increase in defensive talent faced.  Their arguments are over whether they will be just real good, or great. 

Mateer didn't play in the bowl game, he had already committed to blowu. 35 for the backup QB against Syracuse could mean a couple of things.

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OU scrimmage update spoilered below. 

Highlights:

-A bunch of guys sat out due to injury, including multiple starters on both sides of the ball. 

-Much to the chagrin of the OU homer mods and their posters, the offense sucked and Mateer didn’t look great. 

-Shockingly, one of the FCS guys they’re counting on at WR has hand issues. Couldn’t catch a cold according to not just this report but some guys who attended from their board. 

-We’ve finally reached the inevitable moment where Kanak is now the starting TE. They’re going to spin it as a good thing because he’s allegedly “uber athletic” even if we’ve never seen that from him. The reality is that they have an abomination of a TE room and they’re going to be longing for Bauer Sharp. 

-The OL is still poo. 

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Loaded notes and intel coming out of Oklahoma’s first scrimmage of fall camp (8/9)

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    It's about that time. 

    With three weeks until Oklahoma's season opener, the Sooners had the first of three scrimmages of fall camp on Saturday in Norman. The first real opportunity for the new-look OU offense to take the field in a game-like setting against Brent Venables and the Oklahoma defense. 

    No need to delay any further, let's get right into it:

     
    • First obvious question everyone will want to know: which side of the ball won the day? The answer to that is probably not overly surprising - the Oklahoma defense definitely was the better side of the football on Saturday. Offensively, it was a bit of a mixed bag. Ben Arbuckle's unit got off to a strong start, but the defense settled in and ended up taking control. I was told by a team source that the "plays were there to be made" but that penalties and drops were a consistent issue on Saturday. The offense left the stadium feeling encouraged but overall disappointed. However, there is context to all of this:
    • It's important to note here that the offense wasn't exactly put in an overly advantageous situation. For starters, a number of key skill players were held out on Saturday for precautionary reasons. That includes star running back Jaydn Ott and wide receiver Deion Burks. On top of that, the Sooners really shuffled around their offensive line - which certainly makes things a lot of tougher, as well. All in all, the OU offense wasn't exactly operating at full strength today, for what it's worth. 
    • With Jaydn Ott out, Jovantae Barnes got the start at running back and had a really strong day. He looks clearly in position as the No. 2 back behind Ott right now. 
    • John Mateer had a really good day. He overthrew a deep ball to Isaiah Sategna and short hopped another throw on a rollout to his left, but otherwise was very sharp on Saturday. One of the highlights of the day was Mateer connecting with Sategna on a deep ball. Sounds like overall, Mateer had a nice first scrimmage. 
    • Jer'Michael Carter got a lot of burn. It seems like OU is trying to figure out what exactly they have here. Carter made some big plays, but probably had the two most egregious drops of the day, also. Carter's potential is apparent but sounds like he's having a hard time being consistent day in and day out.
    • It was a good day for Jaren Kanak. Kanak ran with the 1's at tight end and continued to make plays, as he has throughout camp so far. It seems like, at this point, Kanak is clearly the best tight end option in the passing game. However, it's not clear he can handle the blocking duties of the position. In any event, it sure sounds like Kanak is going to have a role on this offense. 
    • Overall, not a ton to report on the defensive side other than it was just a solid all-around day. The defensive line, in particular, is continuing to look like the strength that everyone thought it would be coming into the season. 
    • A lot of run for Reggie Powers on Saturday. Hard to imagine he won't have a role this fall as he continues to have a fantastic fall camp. 

 

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3 hours ago, TornACL said:

The irony of OU being unable to afford paying their players in the NIL era is just so, so delicious.

The after dinner aperitif is reading their boards, with ardent fans complaining about players deciding based on the biggest offer, and how that is ruining the sport…

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55 minutes ago, statsman said:

The after dinner aperitif is reading their boards, with ardent fans complaining about players deciding based on the biggest offer, and how that is ruining the sport…

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1 hour ago, Sgt Hulk said:

Mateer better than arch 🤣🤣🤣🤣. Mateer would be third string here.  Meteer is just above Marcel Reed.  They have less awareness than aggy 

You guys better be right about this shit lol my heart can't take another 2023

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48 minutes ago, BurgleBro said:

You guys better be right about this shit lol my heart can't take another 2023

Well, since we use headsets to call in plays now I'm thinking a 2023 is less likely.

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2 hours ago, closetojumping said:

-Right now, OU has 3 OTs in concussion protocol, including both starters. Venables has the entire team basically going full speed at each other all practice, every practice. 

-Eli Bowen is unlikely to start the season on the depth chart. 

-At least 4 WRs are not currently able to practice. 

-OU posters are now full on positing that they may, in fact, have the best defense in the entire country. 

worst part in all of this.. is that they are feeding themselves into a frenzy thinking all of our OL are banged up and Arch not having the best scrimmage.. it's like they need us to be a skeleton crew come October so then they can play us and proclaim that we were overrated or something..

 

truly grasping at straws right now.

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22 hours ago, TornACL said:

The irony of OU being unable to afford paying their players in the NIL era is just so, so delicious.

Much tougher market when everyone is open to bid.  

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2 hours ago, closetojumping said:

-Right now, OU has 3 OTs in concussion protocol, including both starters. Venables has the entire team basically going full speed at each other all practice, every practice. 

-Eli Bowen is unlikely to start the season on the depth chart. 

-At least 4 WRs are not currently able to practice. 

-OU posters are now full on positing that they may, in fact, have the best defense in the entire country. 

Yes, because the only way all those players are hurt is due to the quality of the defense.

The logic is undeniable. 

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2 hours ago, Lhorn said:

What doesn’t kill them makes them stronger.  I endorse BV’s strategy.  

I think it's a great strategy, as long as it's every team not named the Texas Longhorns doing it.

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On 8/7/2025 at 9:35 AM, Hard Times said:

I don't want them to suck too bad. They coulda go after a real coach. Certainly they would target Day, Kiffin, Freeman, DeBoer and probably Sark. I know, no one wants to live in Norman, but if they come up with enough $ you just never know.

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Another day above ground is great, but it's even better when I read articles like the one spoilered below and realize how happy I am to have always hated the sooners. 

This article attempts tout Jaren Kanak as some sort of revelation in the TE room since they gave up on him as a LB after last season.

Highlights:

-He likes to play dirty. Kendal Daniels brags on Kanak's ability to take cheap shots long after the whistle. The money quote from this genius? "You've got to play a little dirty at times." Boy, truer sooner words have never been spoken. Daniels may have started off as a Cowboy, but he's fully embraced his inner sooner clown.

-Kanak is small for a TE. 6'2", 233, but he and his mouthbreathing postion coach, Ol'Joe Jon Finley, are talking that up as "leverage" in taking on larder defenders. Uh huh.

-This guy is wathing film, guys. He's in there, watching and studying, watching and studying. He also was known for that at LB. In fact, it's one of two things he was known for at LB - the other thing he was known was getting into games and constantly being out of position, often running in the opposite direction of the play. 

-Totally unrelated and not mentioned in this article but might be something to watch - multiple notes from media viewing in the first week of workouts included Kanak running the wrong routes on various plays at TE. 

-This is the kind of shit we'd have to cling to when the program was bottoming out under Chuckles - a position switched 5th string TE is "really starting to come on due to athleticism" in a room full of absolute trash. The OU TE room this year is going to look like Bill Bedenbough's ass pressed firmly against a mirror. 

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Jaren Kanak exceeding early expectations, bringing edge at tight end for Oklahoma

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    NORMAN — Kendal Daniels has a preference when Oklahoma enters its one-on-one periods of practice.

    The versatile linebacker transfer from Oklahoma State wants to go head-to-head with Jaren Kanak, the Sooners' linebacker-turned-tight end. It may seem like somewhat of a mismatch, given Kanak's newness to playing tight end — a position he made the move to prior to the spring — but Daniels enjoys the challenge Kanak presents during those periods of fall camp.

    "He wants to put you on your back," Daniels said. "He's going to push you after the play, 2 seconds after the whistle blows. He's going to keep pushing you, so it's just that mind game of him wanting to do those types of things. That's what is going to get defenders out of their game, and then when you think he's blocking, he's going to release for a route and catch it…. I've played against a lot of tight ends, and he's up there at the top of the list."

    Kanak has been settling in since his offseason position change, and while it remains a work in progress for the senior who logged 827 snaps and 103 tackles across 39 appearances (including 10 starts) at linebacker the last three seasons, he has made considerable headway leading up to the start of the 2025 season.

    "Jaren has, probably honestly, exceeded a lot of like my early initial expectations of him at tight end," offensive coordinator Ben Arbuckle said on the eve of fall camp. "…He's been awesome. He's put in the work to go out there definitely earned himself a spot playing on Saturdays."

     

     

    That last part seemed like it may have been a reach when Kanak first made the move after the end of last season, but he has been "diligent" and fully committed to the position switch over the last seven-plus months. Ask Arbuckle, head coach Brent Venables or any teammate, and they'll tell you that Kanak spends more time in the Switzer Center — studying, watching film, taking notes — than anyone else on the Sooners' roster.

    That dedication is yielding progress on the field for Kanak, who has steadily worked his way into the conversation at tight end. Sources told Sooners Illustrated that Kanak received plenty of first-team snaps at tight end during Oklahoma's first scrimmage of the preseason on Saturday. He has also made the most of his opportunities on the practice field through the first week and a half of practices.

     
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    Take Wednesday's practice on the rugby fields, for example. During a perimeter drill at the end of the media viewing period, Kanak ran a route toward the left sideline as quarterback John Mateer lofted a throw his way. Safety Jaydan Hardy attempted to make a play in coverage, even getting a couple fingers on the ball as it drifted just out of his complete reach. Despite the deflection, Kanak maintained his concentration, reeled in the pass and got his feet down inbounds before falling out of bounds.

    "Me and the guys spend as much time as we can on those jugs and playing catch with John and just making it a habit to always catch the ball no matter what," Kanak said. "And so, tip drill, every ball is ours. Every ball in the air is ours."

    Kanak's pass-catching ability has been one of his strengths as he transitions to tight end. So, too, has been his physicality — a natural carryover from his time at linebacker — but he's still honing his skills and learning the ins and outs of his new position.

    "For three years, I've been learning how to be a linebacker and how to create separation and stay away from people," Kanak said. "Then you switch over to tight end, that's all about getting your hands on them, bringing them close, just different techniques about where to put your hands, the footwork and all that kind of stuff. So, just really keying in on that technique and mastering that."

    The transition hasn't always been smooth, but Kanak is comfortable saying he has made incremental improvements every day during the process. Still, he knows he needs to find advantages where he can and exploit them, considering his lack of experience at tight end and the fact he's relatively undersized at 6-foot-2 and 233 pounds.

    The Sooners' other tight ends who have been in the mix for reps this fall all have at least 2 inches on Kanak. Kaden Helms is 6-foot-5 and 238 pounds, while Carson Kent is 6-foot-4 and 247 pounds, while Will Huggins stands at 6-foot-6 and 252 pounds. As Kanak put it himself, he's a "tweener" at tight end.

    "I have natural leverage, as Coach (Joe Jon) Finley says," Kanak said. "It's a nice way of calling me short. But I have very natural leverage, so I can get up and under guys and really be physical with them."

    Kanak's athleticism, which has been evident since his days at Hays High in Kansas, paired with the "edge" he has been trying to play with despite his smaller stature, has made him an intriguing option in an unproven tight end room that has been among the Sooners' biggest offseason uncertainties. As Arbuckle said — and which Venables echoed at SEC Media Days last month — Oklahoma envisions a real role for Kanak within the offense this season.

    It's just a matter of how large that role ends up being and just how effective Kanak can be in his first year playing a new position in the SEC. Daniels, at least, believes Kanak's prior experience at linebacker and what he has shown in fall camp will translate.

    "You've got to play a little dirty at times," Daniels said. "And I feel like you got to have that to be that (edge) to be that type of player in this league."

 

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1 minute ago, Chili dog said:

If Arbuckle and Mateer don’t live up to the hype, it will break them.

He isn't going to

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1 hour ago, Chili dog said:

If Arbuckle and Mateer don’t live up to the hype, it will break them.
 

 

 

In other words, Arbuckle is going to leave the sooners this offseason for a job at a more high-profile program on the West Coast?

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