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1 hour ago, MuellerHorn said:

 

Jaylon Guilbeau is getting picked on quite a bit. Guilbeau gave up a big catch and run and was beat deep another time and was called for pass interference.

Man, Gilbeau has been dogshit this year. Lucky for him it jst gets glossed over because of Arch.

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1 hour ago, DreadHead said:

Yeah that makes much more sense now. And during the SJSU game when Caldwell was out there smiling and pushing down the field, they panned to a shot of Arch on the sideline and he didn't look happy he was out there. On top of all the pressure Arch has, knowing that guy was probably brought in as insurance for you, isn't going to help with his mental stability. 

Come on, man. If he looked unhappy it's because he played the worst game of his life. 

 

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2 minutes ago, gmr548 said:

Man, Gilbeau has been dogshit this year. Lucky for him it jst gets glossed over because of Arch.

He's just not one of our best five in the secondary, imo. We have better corners and a better nickel. 

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44 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Imagine proposing this back in June or whenever it was we brought in Caldwell. 

I read Nahlin swearing a couple of times that Manning didn't look like this in fall camp. It's really hard to imagine, with our offense going up against that defense every day in practice. 

He knows everybody on the field. He likes the guys on defense and they like him. Can it be more comfortable?

Also, they don't scrimmage 1s vs 1s all day in practice.

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Did OU’s offensive ineptitude hurt their ability to fix things? 
It’s an NIL world and about 90% of conversations and decisions these days center around money.

If you’re a receiver or running back and there are no holes and no passes to catch, you will lose money by taking NIL money (if this doesnt get fixed)
Posted
24 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Enough with this bullshit yips mental shit. That shit is okay for isolated stretch in a game, not 3 game stretches especially vs bad competition. Arch is in his fucking 3rd year of the system and he’s missing wide open players in the offense, not seeing wide open players in the offense, etc. this is just straight up dog shit qb play 

 

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1 hour ago, MuellerHorn said:

Two underwhelming (as compared to potential and original hype) QBs in a row. At some point, coaching has to be tossed into the conversation as a mainstream narrative and then we’re really fucked. At that point, what QB with real potential is going to want to come play in this shit show? 

If Manning doesn’t get his shit together, Sark needs to make a change and see if the problem is primarily with Arch, or not. That’s the only way to salvage this. 

Both Thompson and Card looked their best under Sark imo. With Ewers there was too much injury derailments that hindered his true development. I’ll die on the hill that Ewers was a good to great Qb(not elite!) when healthy and average at best when dealing with any type of injury. Just the nature of who he was as a player which was frustrating to watch. I also think the pro style offense we run really challenges QB’s processing ability. Someone like Ewers would have looked way better in a simpler offense like the Air Raid but the readiness wouldn’t have been there at the next level. I think it was confirmed the style of offense Sark runs played a big role in the Manning’s decision to pick Texas. Ewers’ first year starting in the offense was rough and real bad at times. Maybe we’re witnessing that with Arch on top of the complete circus going on between his ears. 
 

So, I’m not ready to fire the alarm bells with Sark and the QB’s, yet. If the reports from Bobby and Gerry are true, that everyone inside the building is completely flummoxed about Arch on game days, then Sark needs to let the kid breathe. It seems to be complete mental execution with Arch. If we could be a fly on the wall during film today, I’d bet Arch is relaying exactly what Sark needs to hear from a guy that’s struggling. 

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Not a rhetorical question - How much time do we think Sark actually spends coaching the QBs? Like, is he in the meeting room with them every day or is Milwee leading all of that? I suspect the latter given all the other head coach responsibilities.

Also - yeah Guilbeau has been the biggest weak spot on defense by far. Teams aren't even throwing at MM and Littleton has been solid. Guilbeau has been overmatched every game. Maybe the other backups suck but sure seems like Guilbeau should move back to slot behind Littleton.

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We have a championship caliber defense. Special teams are definitely improved. Offense is completely lost. I agree with the take that you can’t let this entire team suffer because the pre-anointed QB is lost. Who cares why!! I’ve NEVER been a “back-up QB” guy. But this is about the entire team-or it should be - and not just one player. You can see the entire offense’s body language is deflated and defeated. No excitement. No juice. For obvious reasons. You gotta make a change. Now. Not for the FL game - that’s too late and again, unfair to the rest of the team. We should be in “whatever it takes to win” mode. Sucks for Sark because WR are open. But that’s why he gets paid millions of dollars- make the tough call. But again, with that defense, all we need is a game manager at QB. You can’t tell me one of the backups can’t at least manage the game better. If not, the season is lost anyway.

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3 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

He’s missing guys by 4 yards on short and stop routes. This is straight up psychological. Insisting otherwise just shows your abject stupidity and the rest of us aren’t in the mood for it. 

His complete fundamentals breakdown is definitely mental. Throwing late over the middle is definitely mental and not just complete garbage QB play.

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18 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

His complete fundamentals breakdown is definitely mental. Throwing late over the middle is definitely mental and not just complete garbage QB play.

Then why did you assert this?

Enough with this bullshit yips mental shit. That shit is okay for isolated stretch in a game, not 3 game stretches especially vs bad competition.

 

It wouldn't shock me if he has some injury that isn't helping, but that guy is clearly in his own head.  See (for instance) Chuck Knoblach.

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24 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

His complete fundamentals breakdown is definitely mental. Throwing late over the middle is definitely mental and not just complete garbage QB play.

You don’t know what the yips are so sit this one out.

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2 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Enough with this bullshit yips mental shit. That shit is okay for isolated stretch in a game, not 3 game stretches especially vs bad competition. Arch is in his fucking 3rd year of the system and he’s missing wide open players in the offense, not seeing wide open players in the offense, etc. this is just straight up dog shit qb play 

Do you really not understand what the yips are?

Don't use the word if you don't understand it.

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I assume anyone who doesn't know what the yips are never played golf.  I was a below average golfer, but even with that meager game there where periods where basic skills just evaded me, and it was definitely in my head.

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If he is looking sharp in practice, but not the same in the game then it is defintely mental. 

 

If he is shit in practice and also in the games then he is just not the guy and this was a poor evaluation. If he is injured then he needs to get that squared away and be ready for next year. Caldwell has experience. 


 

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I am fully of the opinion at this point the transfer portal for experienced veterans is the way to go at QB.

Jaggy ass Will Howard doing what he did in the playoffs last year had me thinking this, then Aguilar at Tennessee has convinced me.  A good, experienced QB into a plug ac play situation, with this D would have been great.  

 

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20 minutes ago, BurgleBro said:

I am fully of the opinion at this point the transfer portal for experienced veterans is the way to go at QB.

Jaggy ass Will Howard doing what he did in the playoffs last year had me thinking this, then Aguilar at Tennessee has convinced me.  A good, experienced QB into a plug ac play situation, with this D would have been great.  

 

Plus they develop somewhere else with the potential of learning the QB mechanics from an anti-milwee 

Posted
5 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Enough with this bullshit yips mental shit. That shit is okay for isolated stretch in a game, not 3 game stretches especially vs bad competition. Arch is in his fucking 3rd year of the system and he’s missing wide open players in the offense, not seeing wide open players in the offense, etc. this is just straight up dog shit qb play 

I can’t with you. 

Posted
3 hours ago, closetojumping said:

He’s missing guys by 4 yards on short and stop routes. This is straight up psychological. Insisting otherwise just shows your abject stupidity and the rest of us aren’t in the mood for it. 

Thank you! He also can’t even take the time to understand what the yips are. An unexplainable mental block suffered by elite athletes. 

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Hard truth is that we’ve never seen Sark’s play calling look as elite/creative as it did those 5 or so games before Casey Thompson hurt his thumb

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Posted
3 minutes ago, Nope said:

Hard truth is that we’ve never seen Sark’s play calling look as elite/creative as it did those 5 or so games before Casey Thompson hurt his thumb

You mean before he got the yips

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20 hours ago, The Ace of Aces said:

This looks like a 5 loss team to me. 

@ OSU

@ FL

v land thieves

@ GA

And one of Vandy/AR/aggy. 

We aren't losing to either ou or UF. We'll hold ou to 10 and do the impossible and score 13.

UF is a shit show. Their defense is absolutely abysmal, and we will score on them, either by accident or running the ball. We have 4 capable runners, not including Arch. If Arch can by some miracle throw the ball at a speed that isn't at the pace of a rocket, not in the dirt or at a WR's feet, we will also score there...somehow.  We have some serious talent at WR if Archibald can just get it into their hands at a normal speed. Plus Napier is still the HC. Lagway threw 5 INTs against an ok LSU defense. Our defense is top 5. He's fucked. 

We absolutely are not losing to Arkansas. They're fucking worse than UF. Their entire roaster is built on transfers. They lost to an Ole Miss team who has no defense and used a backup QB, albeit he did a good job, but only 1 TD.

UGA is a toss-up. Our Defense is better, but their QB is mid, which admittedly I would take mid over what we have currently, but still...I wouldn't count on a loss just because Stockton had a good game yesterday. Tennessee's defense has been shredded from losses, and they don't have a James Pearce, either. Georgia literally struggled for most of the game against Austin fucking Peay. They didn't even get going until the end of the 3rd into the 4th. 

Vandy? Lol wut? Not with our defense. USCe has almost nobody on their defense except for Dylan Stewart and Peyton Wilson.  That's why they got shredded. They have zero depth. But I will give Vandy props for going out there and getting it done. They had the benefit of Sellers getting a targeting hit and leaving the game. But their defense is dog shit.

We are under no circumstances losing to aggie. Not at all. Their defense is absolute dog shit. Marcel Reed isn't running or passing on us, and Le'Veon Moss or EJ Sanders are their best players, and might be the only ones who score. Rueben Owens fucking sucks. Shocker. Their RBs won't be averaging 5 ypc against us. They'll be in the 3's. Our DB'S aren't getting burned by the likes of Berhel-Roman, Terry Bussey (who has hands of urine soaked in plastic), they'll put Littleton on Concepcion, so he'll be a non-factor, Muhammad will be put on Craver, who is average at best, and the rest of their WR Corp may not even exist at all. Our defense will make them tap out. 

As bad as we are right now, we still have a better WR room, RB room, and an overall defense. 

 

We will win most if not all of those games. The only game I will not predict a win is Georgia. Because, well, they're Georgia. It could go either way, and we're a long way away from that game, anyway. Same with 8&4. 

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We’ve made the semifinals in back to back years with Sark calling plays, and his play calling wasn’t the reason we lost either of those games. Thus far this year the play calling isn’t the problem. The primary issue is the person leading the offense. Unless relieving Sark of calling plays frees him up to go out there and execute for his QB I don’t really get the we need an OC train some of you are on. If anything we need a true QB coach who doubles as a psychologist. Also it isn’t a given anyone can come in and call a better game than Sark.

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3 minutes ago, SarkAfterDark said:

We’ve made the semifinals in back to back years with Sark calling plays, and his play calling wasn’t the reason we lost either of those games. Thus far this year the play calling isn’t the problem. The primary issue is the person leading the offense. Unless relieving Sark of calling plays frees him up to go out there and execute for his QB I don’t really get the we need an OC train some of you are on. If anything we need a true QB coach who doubles as a psychologist. Also it isn’t a given anyone can come in and call a better game than Sark.

I agree keep pounding our head into a wall that way sark can join Jimbo fisher as only play callers to win a title this century. 
 

Sark is a great game planner, play designer, and script writer. However once those concepts are completed he is pretty average at adjustments within a game, calling plays in red zone he’s abysmal. 

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22 minutes ago, William Bludworth said:

We will win most if not all of those games. The only game I will not predict a win is Georgia. Because, well, they're Georgia. It could go either way, and we're a long way away from that game, anyway. Same with 8&4. 

I like the optimism but I don't see it.  Lost in all of Arch discussion is that our offensive line is pretty much garbage outside of Goosby.  We can't push San Jose State or UTEP around.  They are bad enough that if Arch wasn't a total disaster we would all be saying our QB is going to have to win us games in spite of our OL.   There is a reason we couldn't sustain a drive against UTEP.  Our offense is an absolute mess at every level.  There is a breakdown at multiple positions on just about every play and that is pretty much unacceptable at week 3 and more of a sign of that is just who we are.  They have less than 3 weeks to clean this shit up and maximize what is clearly a limited offense.

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6 minutes ago, SarkAfterDark said:

We’ve made the semifinals in back to back years with Sark calling plays, and his play calling wasn’t the reason we lost either of those games. Thus far this year the play calling isn’t the problem. The primary issue is the person leading the offense. Unless relieving Sark of calling plays frees him up to go out there and execute for his QB I don’t really get the we need an OC train some of you are on. If anything we need a true QB coach who doubles as a psychologist. Also it isn’t a given anyone can come in and call a better game than Sark.

We lost in the semifinals both years because our red zone play calling is dog shit

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3 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Sark is a great game planner, play designer, and script writer. However once those concepts are completed he is pretty average at adjustments within a game, calling plays in red zone he’s abysmal. 

None of this is even worth worrying about when our Interior OL can't block for a 3 yard run against UTEP and our QB is missing by 5 yards.  Red zone play calling against top tier defenses is the least of our worries currently.

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1 minute ago, Skipper said:

I like the optimism but I don't see it.  Lost in all of Arch discussion is that our offensive line is pretty much garbage outside of Goosby.  We can't push San Jose State or UTEP around.  They are bad enough that if Arch wasn't a total disaster we would all be saying our QB is going to have to win us games in spite of our OL.   There is a reason we couldn't sustain a drive against UTEP.  Our offense is an absolute mess at every level.  There is a breakdown at multiple positions on just about every play and that is pretty much unacceptable at week 3 and more of a sign of that is just who we are.  They have less than 3 weeks to clean this shit up and maximize what is clearly a limited offense.

Well the good news is so are the teams we face going forward. They are all flawed. I don't predict we'll blow them out or anything, but we will out-athlete them at some point in the game. I know we have to lean on our defense, but we can score (even if it is a miracle). I just cannot see any of those teams moving the ball against us, but we can use our superior athletes to get something. These games may end up something like 17-13 going forward, but I still think we win. Georgia is just unpredictable. Just my personal opinion, and if anyone disagrees, I completely understand. This is why I  do not put Arch in the "he'll make it happen". Our O-line sucks ass flagellation, but our RB's still pushed through, and we have 4 to rotate. At some point Arch will complete a pass to either Jaggy or Wingo for another TD or two. Hopefully he can find Moore/McCutcheon or Lockett/Endries. I still have faith we can win with Arch, just not Arch winning it for us. 

Posted
10 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

I agree keep pounding our head into a wall that way sark can join Jimbo fisher as only play callers to win a title this century. 
 

Sark is a great game planner, play designer, and script writer. However once those concepts are completed he is pretty average at adjustments within a game, calling plays in red zone he’s abysmal. 

 

5 minutes ago, ATXhorn17 said:

We lost in the semifinals both years because our red zone play calling is dog shit

Play calling looks like dog shit when the TD play is called but aren’t executed. Just yesterday we saw a perfect play call in the red zone only for the QB to over throw the WR. So the choice Sark has is to trust his QB or hope his OL can get the necessary push. Resolving Sark from calling the plays don’t fix either of those issues

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4 minutes ago, SarkAfterDark said:

 

Play calling looks like dog shit when the TD play is called but aren’t executed. Just yesterday we saw a perfect play call in the red zone only for the QB to over throw the WR. So the choice Sark has is to trust his QB or hope his OL can get the necessary push. Resolving Sark from calling the plays don’t fix either of those issues

Our OL hasn’t gotten the necessary push the entire time sark has been here. We have ranked 111 and 89 in redzone offense the past two years and we are toward the back half already this year. His unit has been the weakest of our teams for the 3rd year in a row. 
 

Resolving Sark from those duties allows him to coach the entire team and look at the game from both sides of the ball. It ultimately should make him a better game day coach on Saturdays for the team. He’d still have say so in the offense just like Saban did with his OC’s. He’d likely be able to relay better information to the play caller to set us up for more success offensively not having to do it all. 

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16 minutes ago, William Bludworth said:

Well the good news is so are the teams we face going forward. They are all flawed.

Do you mean Sam Houston?  Because that is probably the only game we win with an offensive performance like we had yesterday.  Sure, maybe the defense could win us 1 or 2 others but that was a 5-7 performance.   None of the other top 25 SEC teams are "flawed" in any comparable way to what we witnessed yesterday.   You are smoking crack if you think UGA is the only team that "might" beat us dude.  If we can't improve significantly before conference play starts it will be a struggle to get to 6 wins and I'm dead serious. Once a team starts taking on water it's hard to turn it around.   I have not doubt the coaching staff is in full blown panic mode right now because our offense has regressed over 3 games.   I don't think people appreciate the "floor" of the SEC.  The top tier isn't what it used to be when Bama/UGA was hording all the 5 stars with their bag games, but there isn't a single SEC team that doesn't have enough talent to beat a Texas team that shows up completely inept offensively.  OU last year is pretty much what we looked like yesterday.

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5 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Our OL hasn’t gotten the necessary push the entire time sark has been here. We have ranked 111 and 89 in redzone offense the past two years and we are toward the back half already this year. His unit has been the weakest of our teams for the 3rd year in a row. 
 

Resolving Sark from those duties allows him to coach the entire team and look at the game from both sides of the ball. It ultimately should make him a better game day coach on Saturdays for the team. He’d still have say so in the offense just like Saban did with his OC’s. He’d likely be able to relay better information to the play caller to set us up for more success offensively not having to do it all. 

If he can’t hire the right people to do this for him now, I’m not sure why we should think him hiring an OC would be any different. Also what OC worth a shit would come here just to get micromanaged by Sark. We hired this dude to call plays, he has brought us back to national relevance calling plays. Rewatching games and watching the all-22 when available displays the play calling isn’t the main issue here. So do we relieve him of calling plays so he can focus more on coaching QBs at the possible expense of the play calling taking a back seat? I’d rather hire a better QB coach. 

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