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Charlie Kirk assassinated at an event in Utah (by a 22 YO groyper)


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Posted
7 minutes ago, Shaddie said:

Ok. 1 point for you. Literal interpretation 

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/following-death-14-quotes-thoughts-195129835.html

speaking of literal interpretation. 

I’ve already said I have plenty of issues with some things Kirk said.

Also there are context and misrepresentation issues with some of the, “OMRG DiD U SeeZ KiRk SaY!!1!!!”  links.  Those have been listed in multiple posts by others in this thread so you don’t have to take my word for it.

I respect his willingness to allow unfettered microphone access to anyone with a different opinion and engage in discussion that by and large didn’t devolve into a screaming contest.

His murder is fucking awful for any hope of improvement in the current political/social environment of this country.  So I get closer to the general perspective some of the ledge posters with each event like this.  Not great Bob.

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Posted (edited)
9 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

I’ve already said I have plenty of issues with some things Kirk said.

Also there are context and misrepresentation issues with some of the, “OMRG DiD U SeeZ KiRk SaY!!1!!!”  links.  Those have been listed in multiple posts by others in this thread so you don’t have to take my word for it.

I respect his willingness to allow unfettered microphone access to anyone with a different opinion and engage in discussion that by and large didn’t devolve into a screaming contest.

His murder is fucking awful for any hope of improvement in the current political/social environment of this country.  So I get closer to the general perspective some of the ledge posters with each event like this.  Not great Bob.

So why do reasonable people (as you’re describing yourself with that post) not see or know all of his stuff. You have just admitted that shit ain’t good. Yet your “side” is calling for jihad against people who post against him. Other than the Free Speech thing is there a problem? 
Should we lionize a person like this? Why are you defending him? 
Also if his stuff is bad isn’t it scary he has a direct connection to POTUS? If we lose this republic it is because of traitors like you. 

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Posted
3 hours ago, Incredulity said:

Some can.  Many obviously can’t 

Nick Fuentes and Laura Loomer called Kirk's brand bs. Fuentes even went and broke down Kirk's bit and called him fake. Your own people said that. Good enough for them. Good enough for me. 

Posted
14 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

why anyone would lionize a podcaster is fucking beyond me, much less that one. gross

 

Because they are trying to will it into existence that they have the MLK of the right. They are so irrelevant they will do anything to force the perception that they are the Blacks of the 1960s and this is their movement. They feel they are being persecuted and this is their moment.

They are fucking idiots.

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Posted (edited)
17 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

I’ve already said I have plenty of issues with some things Kirk said.

Also there are context and misrepresentation issues with some of the, “OMRG DiD U SeeZ KiRk SaY!!1!!!”  links.  Those have been listed in multiple posts by others in this thread so you don’t have to take my word for it.

I respect his willingness to allow unfettered microphone access to anyone with a different opinion and engage in discussion that by and large didn’t devolve into a screaming contest.

His murder is fucking awful for any hope of improvement in the current political/social environment of this country.  So I get closer to the general perspective some of the ledge posters with each event like this.  Not great Bob.

At best, we've all failed and disillusioned an entire generation who know nothing but hopelessness, despair, and loneliness. At worst, the grand experiment is nearing its conclusion.

Kirk didn't exactly help keep our youth away from online anger spirals--quite the opposite--but it's not like anyone else was trying to reach them.

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Posted
3 minutes ago, Shaddie said:

So why do reasonable people (as you’re describing yourself with that post) not see or know all of his stuff. You have just admitted that shit ain’t good. Yet your “side” is calling for jihad against people who post against him. Other than the Free Speech thing is there a problem? 
Should we lionize a person like this? Why are you defending him? 

What “stuff” are you referring to in your first question?

Once again if you don’t toe the line in this place with the approved opinion you get accused of being all kinds of things.  You don’t know shit about my “side”.   Political retribution game is fucked bigly.  
 

Not sure what you’re asking with “free speech” question 

 

is a moment of silence at an NFL game “lionizing”?  I suspect Charlie Kirk will be a, oh yeah that guy by 28, maybe 32.  Assuming this doesn’t kick off a tit for tat set of assasinations that would be very, very bad.

 

I’m not. 

Posted
5 minutes ago, Goofyboy said:

I’m betting this fat fuck wrote it himself for a photo op.
 

Why didn't he make himself useful for once and clean it up himself??? 🤷‍♂️

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Posted
10 minutes ago, Pancho said:

 

Because they are trying to will it into existence that they have the MLK of the right. They are so irrelevant they will do anything to force the perception that they are the Blacks of the 1960s and this is their movement. They feel they are being persecuted and this is their moment.

They are fucking idiots.

Won't someone think of the wypipo???

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Thank you to whoever posted the YouTube video of the guy explaining that the type of body armor Kirk was wearing is likely the reason the bullet fragmented, ricocheted and killed him.  He has the footage slowed down to the point you can see the bullet hit him at the top of his BA on the bevel, ricochet, enter his throat and exit left side of his neck. I don't know shit about body armor and assumed it was still all kevlar.  Had no idea that there was BA made from titanium with such a low profile it isn't really visible under a t-shirt. Horrible fucking luck. 

Posted
3 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

What “stuff” are you referring to in your first question?

Once again if you don’t toe the line in this place with the approved opinion you get accused of being all kinds of things.  You don’t know shit about my “side”.   Political retribution game is fucked bigly.  
 

Not sure what you’re asking with “free speech” question 

 

is a moment of silence at an NFL game “lionizing”?  I suspect Charlie Kirk will be a, oh yeah that guy by 28, maybe 32.  Assuming this doesn’t kick off a tit for tat set of assasinations that would be very, very bad.

 

I’m not. 

Jesus Christ. Honestly? I know you’re trying to troll but get better. Free Speech question. I guess a sitting Republican congressman trying to get a law passed that will hurt people who posted bad things about CK. 
 

Remember we’re being literal so that 1 republican represents all them. 
 

Stuff? You literally said “I don’t agree with all he said”. 

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Posted
1 minute ago, Shaddie said:

Jesus Christ. Honestly? I know you’re trying to troll but get better. Free Speech question. I guess a sitting Republican congressman trying to get a law passed that will hurt people who posted bad things about CK. 
 

Remember we’re being literal so that 1 republican represents all them. 
 

Stuff? You literally said “I don’t agree with all he said”. 

Is English your second language?

Randomly repeating “stuff” with sentence fragments  as an explanation doesn’t answer anything.

you can go back to your regularly scheduled psychosis.  Good luck.

Posted
7 minutes ago, Cousin Strawberry said:

Thank you to whoever posted the YouTube video of the guy explaining that the type of body armor Kirk was wearing is likely the reason the bullet fragmented, ricocheted and killed him.  He has the footage slowed down to the point you can see the bullet hit him at the top of his BA on the bevel, ricochet, enter his throat and exit left side of his neck. I don't know shit about body armor and assumed it was still all kevlar.  Had no idea that there was BA made from titanium with such a low profile it isn't really visible under a t-shirt. Horrible fucking luck. 

Did he always wear body armor to gigs?  Or can I pop over to the r conspiracy page and gin up a stunt gone wrong angle?

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Posted
4 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

Is English your second language?

Randomly repeating “stuff” with sentence fragments  as an explanation doesn’t answer anything.

you can go back to your regularly scheduled psychosis.  Good luck.

As fucking usual. NOT. A. GODDAMN. THING. PUSSY. 

Posted
1 hour ago, Incredulity said:

“We can say anything we want about anyone and if we repeat it enough it becomes true”

”pretty please let’s debate the link I attached earlier”

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Least self-aware poster on this entire site. 

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Posted (edited)
37 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Speaking of hateful garbage.

Can someone paint over that pile of shit on right side of the picture?

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Did he always wear body armor to gigs?  Or can I pop over to the r conspiracy page and gin up a stunt gone wrong angle?

I dont know but he clearly was this day. You can see the outline under his shirt. Then his shirt being pulled upward by the bullet and the entrance wound is in his throat a few inches below his chin. The god awful blood loss on his left side is the exit.

Posted
8 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

Is English your second language?

Randomly repeating “stuff” with 

You said you don’t agree with “some things” he said. So give us examples so we can quote them. You’re the one who wants absolute literal interpretations. 
 

Prove it? 

Posted
30 minutes ago, Pancho said:

 

Because they are trying to will it into existence that they have the MLK of the right. They are so irrelevant they will do anything to force the perception that they are the Blacks of the 1960s and this is their movement. They feel they are being persecuted and this is their moment.

They are fucking idiots.

They will make the word fascism their version of the N word and go after anyone who uses it

Posted
9 minutes ago, DDD Dad said:

Least self-aware poster on this entire site. 

Well he is a blinn realtor. 
 

 

Wait. I was kidding. It was a joke. I wasn’t being literal. 

Posted
3 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:

Seriously, why the fuck is the NFL getting involved in this?

Money, it's a gas

Grab that cash with both hands and make a stash

A new car, caviar, four-star daydream

Think I'll buy me a football team

Money, well, get back

I'm aright Jack, keep your hands off my stack

Money, it's a hit

Don't give me that do goody-good bullshit

 

29 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

At best, we've all failed and disillusioned an entire generation who know nothing but hopelessness, despair, and loneliness. At worst, the grand experiment is nearing its conclusion.

Kirk didn't exactly help keep our youth away from online anger spirals--quite the opposite--but it's not like anyone else was trying to reach them.

Taylor Swift, FWIW, tried to engage young people somewhat. It resonated with young voters but per her fan demographic, they were mostly female so the divide continues.

Posted
3 minutes ago, Shaddie said:

You said you don’t agree with “some things” he said. So give us examples so we can quote them. You’re the one who wants absolute literal interpretations. 
 

Prove it? 

I disagree with many of his comments around race and gender.  Are you expecting a word by word breakdown of his quotes by me?

No idea from where you have developed the idea I want, “absolute literal interpretations” or what you think that might prove?

Posted
1 minute ago, RDCanecutter said:

Good spirit, high morale. Now if they'll just guard the Ardennes better this time.

I realize I've been hit or miss on the boards this summer due to other things, but good to see you posting!

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Posted (edited)
7 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

I disagree with many of his comments around race and gender.  Are you expecting a word by word breakdown of his quotes by me?

 

I will make it easy. Go down the list and on your answers just say YES or NO if you agree. Just number your answers and we can discern what you agree with or don’t. Easy Peasy. 
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/following-death-14-quotes-thoughts-195129835.html

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Posted
6 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

I disagree with many of his comments around race and gender.  Are you expecting a word by word breakdown of his quotes by me?

 

Specific ones would be nice. Yes

Posted
4 hours ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

spoilered for anyone not wanting to see the gore (it's even in the screencap):
 

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Interesting info on the body armor and how the bullet likely hit the armor and fragmented and went into his neck and head. But he's a true believer MAGA fucktard and couldn't help himself at the end. He hit all the anti-Democrat bullet points in the final 90 seconds.

Posted
1 minute ago, C-Man said:

Interesting info on the body armor and how the bullet likely hit the armor and fragmented and went into his neck and head. But he's a true believer MAGA fucktard and couldn't help himself at the end. He hit all the anti-Democrat bullet points in the final 90 seconds.

oh, I know, and I am not trying to put him on any pedestal. I was only interested in his analysis of the shooting, which he did a good job of

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