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1 minute ago, orange dream said:

I think January 6th probably belongs on this list.

Oh, about 20-30 other events do, but I was confining it to (1) events that were based on the issues the POTUS just spoke about (immigration and "crime") where (2) we have direct and plain-spoken statements by the killer of "yep, that's why I killed those people."

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6 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Also, note that the question/challenge I've raised above, to all of those folks who were super concerned about "inflammatory political speech leading to violence," has been raised at least three times just by me.

Number of those folks who have the balls to address it: 

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And here's why: because they actually don't have any problem with inflammatory speech inciting people to violence.  They fucking LIKE it.  How do we know?  Because the people spouting that inflammatory shit, about "vermin," and "invaders?"  They joyfully voted to put them in office and give them absolute power.  They spoke their support for it at the ballot box.

They want brown people murdered.

They want black people murdered.

They want jewish people murdered.

They want trans people murdered.

They want cops working at the CDC murdered.

 

Understand that yet again, every accusation is a confession.  MAGA wants you dead.  Because their president wants you dead.  He just fucking said so.

You are giving too much credit. This is akin to all leftists want to murder. You are forgetting a massive amount of folks are completely clueless to the ramifications of their actions. I was there with Bush. Hindsight is 20/20.

 

Edit; there are bad actors but the bulk of the folks that got us here were just reacting to a machine they thought they understood.

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1 minute ago, HOOKEM4 said:

You are giving too much credit. This is akin to all leftists want to murder. You are forgetting a massive amount of folks are completely clueless to the ramifications of their actions. I was there with Bush. Hindsight is 20/20.

Nope.  Sorry.  They've made it fucking clear.  There was no missing the El Paso murders, the Buffalo murders, the Tree of Life murders, and why they were committed.  The killers said so, in plain language.

They know.  They've always known.  And now, their GodKing just said they are okay, and he "couldn't care less."  Because he wants everyone who opposes him dead, and his supporters agree with him.  Fuck this apologist excuse bullshit.  They KNOW.

THEY KNOW.

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4 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Nope.  Sorry.  They've made it fucking clear.  There was no missing the El Paso murders, the Buffalo murders, the Tree of Life murders, and why they were committed.  The killers said so, in plain language.

They know.  They've always known.  And now, their GodKing just said they are okay, and he "couldn't care less."  Because he wants everyone who opposes him dead, and his supporters agree with him.  Fuck this apologist excuse bullshit.  They KNOW.

THEY KNOW.

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I agree with you with the regime. What I am saying is everyone that voted for it doesn't believe this. They thought they were doing what was best for them. There are crazies for sure, but not 70 million. 

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Just now, HOOKEM4 said:

I agree with you with the regime. What I am saying is everyone that voted for it doesn't believe this. They thought they were doing what was best for them. There are crazies for sure, but not 70 million. 

You underestimate the human capacity for evil, including evil by semi-apathy.

You also attribute ignorance to them that is not correct.

They may not know every detail.  But....they know.  See the baker in the BOB "Why We Fight" episode.  He didn't work in the camp.  But he fucking knew.  And he went along with it, because he "thought he was doing what was best for him."

Yes, 70 million people think that "what's best for them" is open season on "the other," because hey, it doesn't hurt ME, and might help ME.

Stop underestimating the ubiquity and banality of evil.  It is a blind spot that may kill us (who are we kidding -- it already has.  We've ingested the fatal poison, now we're experiencing the organs shutting down.  Death follows.  It is inevitable now).

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14 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

You underestimate the human capacity for evil, including evil by semi-apathy.

You also attribute ignorance to them that is not correct.

They may not know every detail.  But....they know.  See the baker in the BOB "Why We Fight" episode.  He didn't work in the camp.  But he fucking knew.  And he went along with it, because he "thought he was doing what was best for him."

Yes, 70 million people think that "what's best for them" is open season on "the other," because hey, it doesn't hurt ME, and might help ME.

Stop underestimating the ubiquity and banality of evil.  It is a blind spot that may kill us (who are we kidding -- it already has.  We've ingested the fatal poison, now we're experiencing the organs shutting down.  Death follows.  It is inevitable now).

What I believe doesn't matter, clearly. What do you believe? What is the solution to this? We all die? It is exhausting. The fact you dont see that you are part of the problem is telling. Defeat! Bud, we are on the same side of this, aside from the part where everything is over. Lets regroup tomorrow or another day. It ain't great but nothing is fucked dude. Right up to the point where the red button is pressed, there is a solution.  The button hasn't been pressed despite what you say.  Go look at some tetas, take a walk with your wife, hug your kids and look at the stars. This isn't the end until you give up.

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To steer this slightly back to the general area that @troph mentioned--the family of the accused, what a gut punch. They have three children and yet here they are facing a nightmare from which they will never be able to escape--the infamy of their oldest son's actions. Your children never stop being your children and I can't imagine how I'd deal with that. (Okay, the phrasing on this last sentence is sketchy, but I mean I can't imagine how I'd deal with the events that occurred.)

 

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7 hours ago, Frank Drebin said:

 

No one was celebrating the El Paso scumbag.  We are not the same.  Adios.  This is my last post.  You people are sick.

Oh hey, turns out the Kirk shooter was motivated by far right rhetoric from Nick Fuentes, who also espouses the kind of far right rhetoric that motivated the El Paso shooter. Looks like @Frank Drebin needs to worry way less about surly posters and more about the sick people over on his side of the political spectrum.

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1 hour ago, SydneyCarton said:

Can someone, anyone, explain what this means to me as well?

The shooter was a loner who spent all his time on the worst parts of the internet (probably including Texags) and never went outside to touch grass. 

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31 minutes ago, Texasborn91 said:

Its fitting the state gets to do instead of taking the cowards way out. 

Yea empowering the state to legally murder it’s citizens seems like a swell idea lol

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1 minute ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

To steer this slightly back to the general area that @troph mentioned--the family of the accused, what a gut punch. They have three children and yet here they are facing a nightmare from which they will never be able to escape--the infamy of their oldest son's actions. Your children never stop being your children and I can't imagine how I'd deal with that.

 

Thanks for this. If you dont go look through what your kids are digesting everyday, do it. I have my kids internet locked down but I still check all the time. YouTube likes to slip stuff past the kids filter and you have to stay vigilant.

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1 minute ago, HOOKEM4 said:

What is the solution to this? We all die?

Short answer?  Not all of us.  But a lot of us.  Read the past examples.  That's how it goes.  It's accelerating and getting worse, literally on an hourly basis.  

1 minute ago, HOOKEM4 said:

The fact you dont see that you are part of the problem is telling. Defeat!

Just calling it like I see it, and have been seeing it.  And if you don't see that we're fucked, you're just Johnny Jolly:

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4 minutes ago, HOOKEM4 said:

Right up to the point where the red button is pressed, there is a solution. 

I don't know if there is a solution.  But, there is a fight.  And I'll do all I can, however I can, for as long as I can.  I just have no illusions about our chances of success.  But trust me, I'm gifted at running headfirst into an immovable wall repeatedly, because fuck you.  Just don't lie to yourself about how this is almost certain to end.

5 minutes ago, HOOKEM4 said:

Go look at some tetas, take a walk with your wife, hug your kids and look at the stars.

On that, we're on the same page.  At least the first two are on the agenda this weekend.  And I got to spend some good time with my kids this past month.  Truly, some great moments.  And now, they are elsewhere.  And I also know that there may - and likely will - come a day when our conversation is "don't come back here.  It's not safe."

But for now, tetas and time with the wife for sure.

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Just now, HOOKEM4 said:

What I belive doesn't matter clearly. What do you believe. What is the solution to this? We all die? It is exhausting. The fact you dont see that you are part of the problem is telling. Defeat! Bud, we are on the same side of this, aside from the part where everything is over. Lets regroup tomorrow or another day. It ain't great but nothing is fucked dude. Right up to the point where the red button is pressed, there is a solution.  The button hasn't been pressed despite what you say.  Go look at some tetas, take a walk with your wife, hug your kids and look at the stars. This isn't the end until you give up.

While I agree with this, man, would I sure fucking love to be able to tell Brisket that he's been wrong about something once in the past 9 years. So would he.

But where do you go from the President of the United States, in plain words (not his usual word salad), telling everyone on live TV that some political violence is justified, and the fault lays entirely on the other side who must be stopped?

And that's on a day where, let's be real, he didn't get the outcome that he was hoping for. In fact, he got about the exact opposite, but the narrative must continue.

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2 minutes ago, elguapo said:

[quoting Frank Drebin] No one was celebrating the El Paso scumbag.  We are not the same. 

That Frank Drebin posted this....hours before his GodKing said “I couldn’t care less.  The radicals on the right oftentimes are radical because they don’t want to see crime.  They don’t want to see crime.  Worried about the border.  They’re saying ‘we don’t want these people coming in, we don’t want you burning our shopping centers, we don’t want you shooting our people in the middle of the street.’"....well, that's just perfection.

His President just said that he doesn't care if people commit violence because they "don't want to see crime" and are "worried about the border."  Which is literally the exact motivation stated by the El Paso "scumbag."  That guy isn't a "scumbag" to the President - the president "couldn't care less" if guys like him commit acts of violence.

Perfection.  The MAGA self-owns are infinite.

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I think it should be noted that, while groypers are definitely something most posters here are unfamiliar with, Johnny absofuckinglutely knows who they are. He's knee deep in groyper internet and has been for years. That's why he threw his little hissy fit earlier today pretending like he didn't know exactly what those memes indicated. 

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2 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

That Frank Drebin posted this....hours before his GodKing said “I couldn’t care less.  The radicals on the right oftentimes are radical because they don’t want to see crime.  They don’t want to see crime.  Worried about the border.  They’re saying ‘we don’t want these people coming in, we don’t want you burning our shopping centers, we don’t want you shooting our people in the middle of the street.’"....well, that's just perfection.

His President just said that he doesn't care if people commit violence because they "don't want to see crime" and are "worried about the border."  Which is literally the exact motivation stated by the El Paso "scumbag."  That guy isn't a "scumbag" to the President - the president "couldn't care less" if guys like him commit acts of violence.

Perfection.  The MAGA self-owns are infinite.

Did I read this right? Sack is finally gone? Amazing. That misogynistic piece of shit needed to go yonks ago.

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34 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Also, note that the question/challenge I've raised above, to all of those folks who were super concerned about "inflammatory political speech leading to violence," has been raised at least three times just by me.

Number of those folks who have the balls to address it: 

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And here's why: because they actually don't have any problem with inflammatory speech inciting people to violence.  They fucking LIKE it.  How do we know?  Because the people spouting that inflammatory shit, about "vermin," and "invaders?"  They joyfully voted to put them in office and give them absolute power.  They spoke their support for it at the ballot box.

They want brown people murdered.

They want black people murdered.

They want jewish people murdered.

They want trans people murdered.

They want cops working at the CDC murdered.

 

Understand that yet again, every accusation is a confession.  MAGA wants you dead.  Because their president wants you dead.  He just fucking said so.

You asked people to defend it. No one did. So there's probably your answer. 

The best you're going to get is some Cr version of “both sides” and that's not going to satisfy you. 

 

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1 minute ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

Did I read this right? Sack is finally gone? Amazing. That misogynistic piece of shit needed to go yonks ago.

He'll be back.

He'll pretend like this never happened.

He'll ignore it when the receipts are posted in his face.

Because being dishonest and disingenuous to justify their shittiness is a foundational ethos for his type.

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8 hours ago, Frank Drebin said:

Fuck you.  Don't care if I get banned.  This website is an absolute shithole filled with despicable and evil people.  It's why none of the decent Longhorns I know would step foot in this dump. And why this website will never grow. I would be glad to be banned. I am no longer wasting time with you awful humans.

Hahahahahahaha

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11 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

On that, we're on the same page.  At least the first two are on the agenda this weekend.  And I got to spend some good time with my kids this past month.  Truly, some great moments.  And now, they are elsewhere.  And I also know that there may - and likely will - come a day when our conversation is "don't come back here.  It's not safe."

Shit, I've already done that with my daughter.

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Just now, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

Did I read this right? Sack is finally gone? Amazing. That misogynistic piece of shit needed to go yonks ago.

You know better. He'll be back with a new name the next time there's something that he thinks that he'll get to gloat about.

Pro tip to finding him: start two threads, one about a black person killing a white person, then another diet thread where posters get to unapologetically brag about how self-disciplined they've become and how much venison is in their meat freezer. He'll keep both at the top of page.

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2 minutes ago, Laguna said:

You asked people to defend it. No one did. So there's probably your answer. 

The best you're going to get is some Cr version of “both sides” and that's not going to satisfy you. 

 

Then do what's the next step.  Own it.  That's what you voted for.  It's what you would vote for tomorrow if given the chance.  THAT'S the end-point of truth that you are too cowardly to admit.  

A man just said it's okay to murder people if it's because you're worried about the border and crime.  Not just any man said that.   The President of the United States of America said it, in very plain terms.  And you would give him your vote tomorrow, and be happy about it.  That's the world we live in.  A world where 70 million of our countrymen know that our president is just fine with inciting people to murder people with last names like mine, and they go to the ballot box and say "I'm good with that."

You support a man who wants me dead.  You KNOW he wants me dead.  And you still support him.  

And I'm the "unhinged" one according to y'all.  World fucking turned upside down.

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48 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Also, note that the question/challenge I've raised above, to all of those folks who were super concerned about "inflammatory political speech leading to violence," has been raised at least three times just by me.

Number of those folks who have the balls to address it: 

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And here's why: because they actually don't have any problem with inflammatory speech inciting people to violence.  They fucking LIKE it.  How do we know?  Because the people spouting that inflammatory shit, about "vermin," and "invaders?"  They joyfully voted to put them in office and give them absolute power.  They spoke their support for it at the ballot box.

They want brown people murdered.

They want black people murdered.

They want jewish people murdered.

They want trans people murdered.

They want cops working at the CDC murdered.

 

Understand that yet again, every accusation is a confession.  MAGA wants you dead.  Because their president wants you dead.  He just fucking said so.

It would be great if the surly cloak room and texags politics room had their own board to yell fascists at one another. Yall are a bunch of clowns and really bring down these boards. Can’t this crap stay in your wingnut chats?

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8 minutes ago, LW Goatman said:

It would be great if the surly cloak room and texags politics room had their own board to yell fascists at one another. Yall are a bunch of clowns and really bring down these boards. Can’t this crap stay in your wingnut chats?

You don't find it news that today the POTUS hand-waved away some political violence so long as it's to stop our country's "enemies"? Odd.

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6 minutes ago, LW Goatman said:

It would be great if the surly cloak room and texags politics room had their own board to yell fascists at one another. Yall are a bunch of clowns and really bring down these boards. Can’t this crap stay in your wingnut chats?

Yeah, so, you voted for this guy, right?

1 minute ago, aggie08 said:

You don't find it news that today the POTUS hand-waved away some political violence so long as it's to stop his enemies? Odd.

Yeah, but see, the guys Trump has no problem with are only going to kill guys like me, not fine Real Americans like LW.  So, what's the concern all about?

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1 minute ago, aggie08 said:

You don't find it news that today the POTUS hand-waved away some political violence so long as it's to stop his enemies? Odd.

I find it fucking repulsive that many of you waited on baited breath to see which side is to blame and mock one another. I think that is bullshit. I really despise that this stuff bleeds into other areas where folks try and stay politics free. 

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1 minute ago, Brisketexan said:

Yeah, but see, the guys Trump has no problem with are only going to kill guys like me, not fine Real Americans like LW.  So, what's the concern all about?

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4 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Then do what's the next step.  Own it.  That's what you voted for.  It's what you would vote for tomorrow if given the chance.  THAT'S the end-point of truth that you are too cowardly to admit.  

A man just said it's okay to murder people if it's because you're worried about the border and crime.  Not just any man said that.   The President of the United States of America said it, in very plain terms.  And you would give him your vote tomorrow, and be happy about it.  That's the world we live in.  A world where 70 million of our countrymen know that our president is just fine with inciting people to murder people with last names like mine, and they go to the ballot box and say "I'm good with that."

You support a man who wants me dead.  You KNOW he wants me dead.  And you still support him.  

And I'm the "unhinged" one according to y'all.  World fucking turned upside down.

You're making all kinds of leaps to get from what he said, to him wanting you dead. It’s kind of wild. I know you don't see it, but that's the truth. 

That rhetoric is a negative, but I didn't hear him incite people to murder.

And you are unhinged. This is known. Try to have a normal weekend and do whatever you need to do to calm down in a harmless manner.

 

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1 minute ago, LW Goatman said:

I find it fucking repulsive that many of you waited on baited breath to see which side is to blame and mock one another. I think that is bullshit. I really despise that this stuff bleeds into other areas where folks try and stay politics free. 

Fair. The scoreboard part of this shit absolutely sucks. It's gross and a sad mirror of our society. But, make no mistake, had the scoreboard gone the other way today, it would have gone a lot further than "mocking".

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3 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Brisket taking the histrionics to a new level in the Charlie Kirk assassination news thread is the least surprising thing ever. 

It’s pretty wild. Vivid hallucinations and everything. 

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3 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Yeah, so, you voted for this guy, right?

Yeah, but see, the guys Trump has no problem with are only going to kill guys like me, not fine Real Americans like LW.  So, what's the concern all about?

I'm not sure what sort of rise you are looking for here. I don't want anyone killed, most of us don't. Whether you are a larger target than me, whom you have no idea, I'm not sure, but its going to be a cancer or a heart attack. But this sort of conversations, can't you just tuck it back in the cloak room? Everyone gets it.

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Just now, Laguna said:

You're making all kinds of leaps to get from what he said, to him wanting you dead.

There are right wingers who want hispanics dead.  They want them dead because they are "worried about the border."

When asked if those people were a problem, the POTUS (1) said "he couldn't care less," (2) listed those exact beliefs as acceptable motivations, and (3) deflected and said the real threat was left-wing violence.

There's no "leap" to get there.  He just walked across the room and got there himself.

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6 minutes ago, LW Goatman said:

I find it fucking repulsive that many of you waited on bated breath to see which side is to blame and mock one another. I think that is bullshit. I really despise that this stuff bleeds into other areas where folks try and stay politics free. 

At least people waited to find out, unlike the politicians on the right

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5 minutes ago, Laguna said:

And you are unhinged. This is known.

Also, if it's "unhinged" to sound the fucking alarm when our nation is in the thrall of a man and movement that said....well, exactly what he said today...shit, buy me a "proudly unhinged" t-shirt and I'll wear it all the way to the re-education camp I'm sent to.

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1 minute ago, 4th&Five said:

You came into a thread about a far right political commentator being murdered and expected it to be politics free?

I did not, I expected it to be exactly what this is, which is exhausting for the board. You should know, you have 27k posts, but maybe you are part of the problem. 

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Given that the deceased was a political figure, even if un-elected, it is rather difficult to keep politics out of it; especially with the way events unfolded and even moreso now that the suspect has been found and arrested. While news could conceivably be limited to upcoming charges and the like, what news anchors are saying about the event (even if it is opinion based) does seem relevant. As does what the elected officials in our country are saying, no matter how insanely stupid it is.  So, there are two threads but this one is for the most part much less political than the CR thread.

It seemed, for the most part, a rational discussion; well as rational a discussion as one can have with you lot of Surly degenerates. Now the football board, that's a whole 'nother entity unto itself and rational sane discussion is the least of their worries.

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1 minute ago, LW Goatman said:

I did not, I expected it to be exactly what this is, which is exhausting for the board. You should know, you have 27k posts, but maybe you are part of the problem. 

So you're here to be a whiny bitch?

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