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the only rule is to have as low a number of losses as possible.

in poll and BCS/4 team playoff era it was basically 0 or 1.  Now it is 0-2 and 2 is iffy because superconferences are going to game the schedule to moximize number with 2 or fewer losses.

hell the ACC had 6 fucking teams in the mix for the champ game in the LAST WEEK of the season and now 5 loss Duke has a shot to be in it.  

if anything with the inability to have conference teams really eliminate each other the SOS should mean WAY more than it obviously does.

 

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Just now, GreenspointTexas said:

OOC games gonna get cancelled across the country like hotcakes here in a week

I hope that happens. The committee can’t keep talking out of both sides of their mouths. If Texas shouldn’t be penalized for losing to fOSU on the road, they should evaluated against the other 2 loss teams. That didn’t happen. They were dropped 7 spots after picking up their 3rd loss.  

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5 hours ago, RoyalBevo21 said:

I agree, but even Charlie Strong 5-7 Texas teams put beatings on G5 cream puffs. It adds nothing to the game and makes it way too convoluted to properly assess competition. This is the equivalent of a 6A team scheduling 5A teams. It's not good for the sport. Cignetti knows this and nuked every P4 game they had scheduled for the next few years. It's manipulating the system. 

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Absolutely pathetic. 

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5 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

With regard to the marquee brands, I'll believe it when I see it.

I think what some forget is the money aspect. Big game match-ups bring big viewers and eyes. As a Texas fan, I don't like playing Sam Houston State. I loved beating Bama OOC, I loved the anticipation of OSU. The entire media talked about that game for all of August and will again this fall. It's great for brand and even better if you execute a good game plan and win. It also generates eyes and swag sales. 

Money matters and I like playing Michigan, OSU, ND and similar teams as a fan. Sure, we could make college football into the NFL, it's taken steps that direction already. If it goes full NFL, I'll just move on from it like I did the NFL and I don't want that because Texas is more than a football team, it's my University.

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I’m not really interesting in designing the “perfect” system based on some historic injustice that this Texas team doesn’t make a 12 team playoff.  
 

If we don’t go because of that stupid Florida loss then let that be the lesson.  I think scheduling tough out of conference match-ups (channneling my inner Rick Barnes here) are its own reward in preparing a team for the kind of fierce competition required of a national champion.  
 

Also, whoever it was upthread that suggested the Big 10 should get an automatic 4 is nuts.  That’s the most top heavy conference in football.  

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5 minutes ago, Steelers Roll Left said:

Man, SMU getting worked by Cal.  If I understand scenarios correctly, that would set up a Virginia vs Duke ACC Championship game.  This, of course, moves Miami into the 2-loss at-large conversation w/ the Vanderbilt’s & BYU’s.  

so Miami can't make their conf champ game from far and away the worst P4 conference...

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Just now, William Bludworth said:

Me either. Actually, I expect it. 

Does anyone actually think otherwise?  Indiana is gonna get their shit pushed in just like they did last year and then still waltz into the Playoff having played no one of note all year except Oregon.  Then they'll get killed in the Playoff and we'll all pretend this is a great system that totally puts the most deserving teams in. 

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56 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Maybe, but I'll be surprised if we aren't playing Ohio State in Austin next September. 

Yeah. We’re not going to back out of home games against Ohio State or Michigan. Now, will they?

but that ND home and home looks mighty precarious. Idk why Texas would give them that platform after the way this season is playing out for both schools. All upside for them (they lose it doesn’t hurt them, as evidenced by this year. They win and it virtually guarantees they’re in assuming no more than 2 losses the rest of their year. Next to no upside for us. We lose and lose two of LSU, Tenn, ou, at Florida or Ole Miss or A&M in ‘28 or 2 of A&M, ou, Bama, at UGA in ‘29 and it’s 2025 all over again.

dont cancel that series after this offseason but if there aren’t any changes in the structure announced after next year  (i.e. moving to 16, nixing autobids or better criteria to not punish teams for a 3rd loss in that type of situation) it would be foolish for Texas to play that series.

 

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3 minutes ago, SpiralOut said:

Does anyone actually think otherwise?  Indiana is gonna get their shit pushed in just like they did last year and then still waltz into the Playoff having played no one of note all year except Oregon.  Then they'll get killed in the Playoff and we'll all pretend this is a great system that totally puts the most deserving teams in. 

You do know OSU has beaten Texas, played 2 non-P4 schools and beat Michigan in conference. Their resume is exactly Texas better than Indiana. 

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Just now, SpiralOut said:

Does anyone actually think otherwise?  Indiana is gonna get their shit pushed in just like they did last year and then still waltz into the Playoff having played no one of note all year except Oregon.  Then they'll get killed in the Playoff and we'll all pretend this is a great system that totally puts the most deserving teams in. 

I'm sure there are people, and probably on this site that predict an upset. No way that happens. The talent gap is wider than Riley Reid's rectum. 
 

Indiana, like you said, will end up in the playoffs and get matched up with a team that will kick their teeth in, and then it'll just be whistling past the graveyard like all is fine. If you schedule such a weak ass OOC schedule, you should be punished. I'm not saying schedule Ohio State or another blue blood like us, but for God's sake grow a pair and schedule at the very least Arizona State/BYU/VT. Just someone with a name. Austin Peay? Really? Just unbelievable teams actually schedule them, get their shit pushed in during the CFP, and act like their trajectory as a program is going up. 

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4 minutes ago, LCHorn said:

I’m not really interesting in designing the “perfect” system based on some historic injustice that this Texas team doesn’t make a 12 team playoff.  
 

If we don’t go because of that stupid Florida loss then let that be the lesson.  I think scheduling tough out of conference match-ups (channneling my inner Rick Barnes here) are its own reward in preparing a team for the kind of fierce competition required of a national champion.  
 

Also, whoever it was upthread that suggested the Big 10 should get an automatic 4 is nuts.  That’s the most top heavy conference in football.  

9 SEC games is more than enough preparation 

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3 hours ago, fellside said:

Them winning by multiple scores against a ranked team when they were already ahead of us isn't great.

Might need both OU and Bama to lose instead of just one.

Yeah, but Tennessee is dog shit. Like, they are abysmal. Ou beat them. The same ou that was in a rock fight with an interim HC with no offense. Huepel needs to go. He's peaked. He cannot coach in the SEC. He recruits top-15 talent and still cannot do shit. Nico Iamaleava is a total bust and transferred. Aguilar led them to 8 wins. Who's next to lead the mighty Huepel's? 

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51 minutes ago, billfromlaketravis said:

Tech gamed the system. Hocutt took a look at the league and CFP rules and said there’s no penalty for not scheduling a P4 team so he didn’t and they’ve rolled to 11-1. They ran into 1 team with sort of equal NFL talent in Arizona State and of course lost. 

They’re going to get smoked in the CFP, but they might not care. A Big 12 title and  a CFP appearance is something they’ll talk about for a generation.

I’m fine with 12, but everybody needs to play by the same rules. My proposal : to be CFP eligible, a team must schedule at least 1 P4 opponent and play a 9 game conference schedule. 

The level of bitchassedness in this post is staggering. Those schedules are set years in advance, for one. Do you think that every P4 team just magically has room in their schedule to do this? That it just happens by magic? You think we wouldn't accept non-con games from A&M or whoever you're delusional. It's them who refuses to play us. Considering how they fared against us in big 12 play, can't say I blame them.

Also, how's it our fucking fault that Oregon State became one of the worst teams in college football this season? They weren't supposed to be great, but they were supposed to be at least competent. We can't control that shit.

And yeah, congrats on playing Ohio State, that game was very entertaining, but what did either team ultimately get out of that? And don't pretend you didn't schedule 3 dogass opponents to beat up on after that.

The hypocrisy is staggering.

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57 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Maybe, but I'll be surprised if we aren't playing Ohio State in Austin next September. 

So would I. It's probably too late. But I'm confident we'll cancel ND, and we should. They should be blackballed until they join a conference.

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16 minutes ago, LCHorn said:

I’m not really interesting in designing the “perfect” system based on some historic injustice that this Texas team doesn’t make a 12 team playoff.  
 

If we don’t go because of that stupid Florida loss then let that be the lesson.  I think scheduling tough out of conference match-ups (channneling my inner Rick Barnes here) are its own reward in preparing a team for the kind of fierce competition required of a national champion.  
 

Also, whoever it was upthread that suggested the Big 10 should get an automatic 4 is nuts.  That’s the most top heavy conference in football.  

The irony in that is I think losing to Ohio St game right out if the blocks really put a dent in the confidence of this team. 

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3 hours ago, Jshep34 said:

How does meth land get ahead of texas if our conference record is the same but yet texas beat them.

Flashback to 2008 where we should have made the NC incoming...

College football is both amazing and maddening. 

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1 hour ago, Jimbob said:

A win is a win.  Aggie was parked at #3 before last night after a meh performance against Utah St, playing only the bottom half of SEC, beating hapless Auburn 16-10 at home, squeaking by 2-10 pig 45-42, having to come back from a 30-3 halftime deficit at home to squeak by MSU by 1, and their only win against a ranked team being by 1 over dome because they botched a PAT.   But they won all those games so they are ranked #3.

loss column is the #1 factor for the committee

Aggy was undefeated. You can lose close as long as you never lose 

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4 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

The level of bitchassedness in this post is staggering. Those schedules are set years in advance, for one. Do you think that every P4 team just magically has room in their schedule to do this? That it just happens by magic? You think we wouldn't accept non-con games from A&M or whoever you're delusional. It's them who refuses to play us. Considering how they fared against us in big 12 play, can't say I blame them.

Also, how's it our fucking fault that Oregon State became one of the worst teams in college football this season? They weren't supposed to be great, but they were supposed to be at least competent. We can't control that shit.

And yeah, congrats on playing Ohio State, that game was very entertaining, but what did either team ultimately get out of that? And don't pretend you didn't schedule 3 dogass opponents to beat up on after that.

The hypocrisy is staggering.

The difference is Texas had this left on the schedule:

#3 Texas A&M

#4 Georgia

#8 Oklahoma

#14 Vanderbilt

 

Tech had nothing like that. And it's very unlikely they ever will in the Big 12. It's not the 2008 Big 12 South anymore. 25% of your conference is G5 filler now. 

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1 minute ago, William Bludworth said:

Flashback to 2008 where we should have made the NC incoming...

College football is both amazing and maddening. 

The great thing about it is, if you're a school like Texas, just win and everything will work out.

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3 hours ago, A-Tex Devil said:

Van Buren is . . . Not good. 
 

In any event my guess is the committee is putting both Big XII teams in if last year in the ACC is any indication. I also think Vandy will be ahead of us for same reason OU is which is dumb because we lose out for our Ohio St game. But number of losses have always been the core stat in college football for better or worse.  I am sanguine about it at this point.  If the committee comes to its senses we are ahead of OU and Vandy.  It won’t. 

You're being kind. He's worse than Jackson Arnold. Think about that. He's a bottom-feeder who wasn't supposed to play, probably ever, and they had no choice because Nussmeier is both hurt and sucks. 

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Just now, David Dennison said:

The great thing about it is, if you're a school like Texas, just win and everything will work out.

Yep. But then somehow we always end up shooting ourselves in the dick with just one last game to win and we're NC bound. 

2001

2008

Its pretty baffling. 

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4 minutes ago, RoyalBevo21 said:

The difference is Texas had this left on the schedule:

#3 Texas A&M

#4 Georgia

#8 Oklahoma

#14 Vanderbilt

 

Tech had nothing like that. And it's very unlikely they ever will in the Big 12. It's not the 2008 Big 12 South anymore. 25% of your conference is G5 filler now. 

sounds like Texas chose poorly...

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6 minutes ago, RoyalBevo21 said:

The irony in that is I think losing to Ohio St game right out if the blocks really put a dent in the confidence of this team. 

I’m on the other side of that, in that I think playing them close made them over confident (this is more on the coaching staff).  It took losing to Florida for Sark to accept new personnel on offense, although evidence of his obstinacy is that Baxter continues to get alternating series with Wisner.  

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3 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

The great thing about it is, if you're a school like Texas, just win and everything will work out.

Same for SMU, Rutgers, Utah or Alabama. What’s the point?

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Just now, Horn Dogg said:

Anyone know how SMU losing to Cal would fuck things up for us?

 

The only thing fucking things up for us is the number of losses we have. 

That’s it. 

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Just now, Pancho said:

 

The only thing fucking things up for us is the number of losses we have. 

That’s it. 

And one of them a really bad loss

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1 hour ago, The_Great_Hornsby said:

Im not gonna make a serious argument for it because it wont happen, but we really should be ahead of ND. Beat the team they lost to and played a MUCH harder schedule. Better wins, beat two CFP teams to their none. 

Their resume is two “quality losses” that’s it.  But the rules say they get an auto bid with two or fewer losses. It’s in the rules go read them, it’s the only way it makes any sense.

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5 minutes ago, RoyalBevo21 said:

The difference is Texas had this left on the schedule:

#3 Texas A&M

#4 Georgia

#8 Oklahoma

#14 Vanderbilt

 

Tech had nothing like that. And it's very unlikely they ever will in the Big 12. It's not the 2008 Big 12 South anymore. 25% of your conference is G5 filler now. 

Ohio State and Indiana both have weak overall strength of schedules as well, did they game the system?

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1 minute ago, David Dennison said:

It's not the same for them. Well, it is for Alabama.

Any of these teams, and many more, if they are 12-0, 100% they are in. Name one P4 team that this isn’t the the case for?

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