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14 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

On the one hand, creepy and scary as fuck for Ukrainians.

On the other hand, they are dropping the charade that it was about Naziism, threats to Russia, etc, and because they are acting like everything is going well, it's going to be really fucking hard for them to try and mobilize/conscript the civilian Russian population.

Oh, it's about Naziism alright.  It's just that they're the Nazis, not the Ukrainians.  

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I think I figured out what bugs me so much about these state TV shows. When you have one person speaking and the camera pans around to the other talking heads, they all appear to be on the verge of speaking.  

It’s like they are all actors with scripts and they are impatiently waiting to say their lines and move on.  Their “discussions” were probably written hours in advance and they come across as exaggerations because they are acting how they think the audience (of one) wants them to act.   

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26 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

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Their nuclear death cult is something.  Holding the world hostage is totally something a mature nation on the world stage should be doing.  It's totally not something a petulant toddler would do.  "I want my iPad or I will rub my radioactive shit all over the walls!"  

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This would be interesting to see develop. 

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Britain has backed in principle a proposal by Lithuania for a naval coalition “of the willing” to lift the Russian Black Sea blockade on Ukrainian grain exports.

The Lithuanian foreign minister, Gabrielius Landsbergis, proposed the plan during talks with the UK foreign secretary, Liz Truss, on Monday in London.

 

“Time is very very short. We are closing in on a new harvest and there is no other practical way of exporting the grain except through the Black Sea port of Odesa,” he told the Guardian. “There is no way of storing this grain and no other adequate alternative route. It is imperative that we show vulnerable countries we are prepared to take the steps that are needed to feed the world.”

Landsbergis proposed that a naval escort operation – not run by Nato – could protect the grain ships as they headed through the Black Sea and past Russian warships. He suggested that, apart from Britain, countries that were affected by the potential loss of grain such as Egypt could provide the necessary protection.

“What we have seen now is just the beginning. The worst is yet to come in the next five to seven weeks when the first harvest arrives and there is no place to put it, so that means people in northern Africa, the Middle East and south-east Asia will be paying exorbitant prices for wheat, corn and the other commodities they need to put food on their table”. He said Ukraine needed to export 80m tonnes of wheat alone this year and the only option was through Odesa,.

His plan, under gestation for weeks, would require demining parts of the Black Sea to ensure safe passage, as well as the agreement of Turkey, which guards the entrance to the Black Sea.

“This would be a non-military humanitarian mission and is not comparable with a no-fly zone,” he said. “In this endeavour military ships or planes or both would be used to ensure that the grain supplies can leave Odesa safely and reach the Bosphorus without Russian interference. We would need a coalition of the willing – countries with significant naval power to protect the shipping lanes, and countries that are affected by this”.

Nato as an alliance should not take a role, he said.

After meeting Landsbergis, Truss said the UK would want British naval ships to join the escort if the practicalities could be sorted, including demining the harbour and providing Ukraine with longer-range weapons to defend the harbour from Russian attack. The UK is in discussions with allies about the plan and it would probably need US agreement to be activated

Truss said: “What we need to do is deal with this global food security issue and the UK is working on an urgent solution to get the grain out of Ukraine”.

The UN secretary general, António Guterres, has warned of “a hurricane of hunger” if Ukrainian grain is not exported. The world’s 41 least-developed nations import a third of their wheat from Ukraine and Russia. Soaring food prices have already driven inflation levels in Egypt to the highest level since mid-2019.

 

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19 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

This would be interesting to see develop. 

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Britain has backed in principle a proposal by Lithuania for a naval coalition “of the willing” to lift the Russian Black Sea blockade on Ukrainian grain exports.

The Lithuanian foreign minister, Gabrielius Landsbergis, proposed the plan during talks with the UK foreign secretary, Liz Truss, on Monday in London.

 

“Time is very very short. We are closing in on a new harvest and there is no other practical way of exporting the grain except through the Black Sea port of Odesa,” he told the Guardian. “There is no way of storing this grain and no other adequate alternative route. It is imperative that we show vulnerable countries we are prepared to take the steps that are needed to feed the world.”

Landsbergis proposed that a naval escort operation – not run by Nato – could protect the grain ships as they headed through the Black Sea and past Russian warships. He suggested that, apart from Britain, countries that were affected by the potential loss of grain such as Egypt could provide the necessary protection.

“What we have seen now is just the beginning. The worst is yet to come in the next five to seven weeks when the first harvest arrives and there is no place to put it, so that means people in northern Africa, the Middle East and south-east Asia will be paying exorbitant prices for wheat, corn and the other commodities they need to put food on their table”. He said Ukraine needed to export 80m tonnes of wheat alone this year and the only option was through Odesa,.

His plan, under gestation for weeks, would require demining parts of the Black Sea to ensure safe passage, as well as the agreement of Turkey, which guards the entrance to the Black Sea.

“This would be a non-military humanitarian mission and is not comparable with a no-fly zone,” he said. “In this endeavour military ships or planes or both would be used to ensure that the grain supplies can leave Odesa safely and reach the Bosphorus without Russian interference. We would need a coalition of the willing – countries with significant naval power to protect the shipping lanes, and countries that are affected by this”.

Nato as an alliance should not take a role, he said.

After meeting Landsbergis, Truss said the UK would want British naval ships to join the escort if the practicalities could be sorted, including demining the harbour and providing Ukraine with longer-range weapons to defend the harbour from Russian attack. The UK is in discussions with allies about the plan and it would probably need US agreement to be activated

Truss said: “What we need to do is deal with this global food security issue and the UK is working on an urgent solution to get the grain out of Ukraine”.

The UN secretary general, António Guterres, has warned of “a hurricane of hunger” if Ukrainian grain is not exported. The world’s 41 least-developed nations import a third of their wheat from Ukraine and Russia. Soaring food prices have already driven inflation levels in Egypt to the highest level since mid-2019.

 

Won't work.

What will work is sending in unarmed freighters with unarmed de-mining escorts.  And KNOW that Russia will sink one of them (and western powers should offer that carrier "insurance" for the potential vessel loss, since private carriers will not).  Then, once it does, Russia will have chosen its path.  After that, send freighters with naval escort, authorized to take defensive measures to protect humanitarian supplies.

Let Russia openly wage war on the global food supply.  Fucking let them hang themselves.   Dole out as much rope as you can, they are masters at crafting their own nooses.

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6 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

So we have the Harpoon solution. 

 

Doesn't solve for the Russian subs in the Black Sea that will sink grain freighters.

Which, again.....I say "let them."  Announce an unarmed convoy.  Parade it through the bosporous with much fanfare.   Follow it on satellite the entire time,,,,,so the world will get to see Russia attack an unarmed freighter, on a humanitarian mission, live.  Make Russia go full Russia in front of the whole world.  Alternatively, emasculate Russia by sending ships right past them, loading up with grain, and then heading back to the people who need it.  Either way, Russia loses.

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9 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Doesn't solve for the Russian subs in the Black Sea that will sink grain freighters.

Which, again.....I say "let them."  Announce an unarmed convoy.  Parade it through the bosporous with much fanfare.   Follow it on satellite the entire time,,,,,so the world will get to see Russia attack an unarmed freighter, on a humanitarian mission, live.  Make Russia go full Russia in front of the whole world.  Alternatively, emasculate Russia by sending ships right past them, loading up with grain, and then heading back to the people who need it.  Either way, Russia loses.

And whoever is on the ship.

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7 minutes ago, MillerEP said:

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/05/23/starbucks-will-exit-russia-after-15-years-closing-130-licensed-cafes.html

Starbucks will exit Russia after 15 years, closing 130 licensed cafes
PUBLISHED MON, MAY 23 20229:15 AM UPDATED 3 HOURS AGO

 

Such a brave and bold move, Starbucks, belatedly getting out of the Russian game now that no one there can afford your shitty coffee anymore.

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Denmark will hand over Harpoon anti-ship missiles and launchers to Ukraine, said US Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin.

The Czech Republic handed over to Ukraine fire support helicopters, tanks, missile systems - the Pentagon.

Kharkiv region, destroyed Russian DT-30 "Knight", multi-purpose two-link all-terrain vehicle on a crawler.
 

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25 minutes ago, Samson's Wig said:

Such a brave and bold move, Starbucks, belatedly getting out of the Russian game now that no one there can afford your shitty coffee anymore.

... And since the supply chain is broken and they can't import all of the coffee and other items they want to sell.  Brave, brave corporate citizens! 

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Apparently he may've been working as a mercenary after having been drummed out of the armed forces. 

https://mil.in.ua/en/news/ukrainian-paratroopers-have-probably-neutralized-the-infamous-russian-aviation-general/

63 years old according to the article.  That's a bit on the gray side for front line expeditionary members, wouldn't you say?

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