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2019 Women's World Cup - Do It Back to Back


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23 hours ago, hayden_horn said:

this is also about more than just equal pay. it's about equal treatment.

the women are made to play at times on field turf. the men never would play on field turf. there are a lot of little things in there as well.

honestly, all it would take is fox partnering with a couple of other large companies, and making up the difference in sponsorship deals. win-win.

the sponsors pay three thousand times more money so the men don't have to play full internationals on field turf, have jabillions spent on physical advertising, etc.


title 9 is not enforceable in switzerland, and if the wimmens want more money, they need to get nike and budweiser to pay up.  the sponsors are not paying for the women's game.  they are paying for the men's game.  fifa, the confederations, and the federations, spend sponsor mone proportionately.

title 9 only applies to the united states, and only to amateur non-professional sports.  so the cabal should simply say - men: we will bonus you through your leagues or via payments to your clubs for your services.  wimmens - have fun storming the castle.

budweiser's spontaneous out-of-nowhere sponsorship of the nwsl in the middle of june is noted.

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At my request, U.S. Soccer staff conducted an extensive analysis of the past 10 years of U.S. Soccer’s financials.  Based on this analysis, we’ve produced the following fact sheet, which has been reviewed by an independent accounting firm.  We are, of course, sharing this letter and fact sheet with players on our Women’s National Team.  In the same spirit of partnership and transparency, I also want to share this information with you.

As you’ll see—separate and apart from any prize money awarded by FIFA—U.S. Soccer has, over the past decade, paid our Women’s National Team more than our Men’s National Team in salaries and game bonuses, and we continue to make unprecedented investments in our women’s program. 



Over the past decade, U.S. Soccer has paid our Women’s National Team more than our Men’s National Team.  From 2010 through 2018, U.S. Soccer paid our women $34.1 million in salaries and game bonuses and we paid our men $26.4 million—not counting the significant additional value of various benefits that our women’s players receive but which our men do not.  

There are several reasons for this:

  • Different pay structures—Our men and women national team players do indeed have different pay structures, but this has nothing to do with gender.Rather, each of the teams have negotiated for different compensation models under their respective collective bargaining agreements. For example…

  • Guaranteed salary for women—Under their CBA, the women have chosen to have a guaranteed salary; U.S. Soccer therefore pays each WNT contracted player a base salary of $100,000 per year.(In contrast, the men’s national team players have no guaranteed salary and are only paid for the training camps they attend and the games they play, plus game bonuses.)In addition, U.S. Soccer also pays WNT contracted players a $67,500-$72,500 salary for playing in the National Women’s Soccer League.(In contrast, we do not pay salaries for men who play in Major League Soccer or any other men’s professional league).In other words, U.S. Soccer guarantees WNT contracted players who also play in the NWSL a base salary of $167,500-$172,500 per year, atop which they can earn game and tournament bonuses.Again, although players on our Men’s National Team can earn larger bonuses, they are guaranteed nothing; they have a different contract structure.


  • Guaranteed benefits for women—Above and beyond the guaranteed salaries mentioned above, U.S. Soccer provides our women players with a robust package of benefits that are not provided to the men.These benefits include fully-paid health, dental and vision insurance; severance; a 401(k) retirement plan; paid maternity leave; guaranteed injury protection; and assistance with childcare.Again, under their contract, our men’s players receive none of these benefits.


  • Hypothetical per game comparison—The widely-reported claim that our women players currently earn only 38 cents for every dollar earned by our men is false.This claim is based on out-of-date numbers that do not reflect what our women’s players actually earn today.In particular, it overlooks the guaranteed salaries described above.The claim is also based on a hypothetical scenario—our men and women each playing 20 friendly matches in a year, which has never happened, and receiving the average bonus amount per game.That said, if the men and women ever did play in and win 20 friendlies in a year and were paid the average bonus amount, a women’s player would earn more­ from U.S. Soccer than the men’s player—the women’s player would earn at least $307,500 (WNT and NWSL salaries, plus game bonuses) and the men’s player would earn $263,333 (game bonuses only).


  • FIFA prize money—Separate and apart from any funds controlled by U.S. Soccer, one of the biggest issues that women’s soccer faces is the difference in FIFA prize money with men’s soccer.The men’s and women’s World Cups generate vastly different revenue for FIFA, resulting in different prize money—prize money determined solely by FIFA.Indeed, when World Cup payments from FIFA are included, our U.S. Men’s National Team players were paid $41.0 million from 2010 through 2018 and our U.S. Women’s National Team players were paid $39.7 million.


  • U.S. Soccer supports narrowing the gap with an increase in FIFA prize money for women—Most recently, last year’s FIFA Men’s World Cup awarded $38 million to the winning federation, and this year’s FIFA Women’s World Cup is awarding $4 million to the winning federation.U.S. Soccer has and will continue to encourage FIFA to narrow this gap with an increase in the prize money that it awards to its Women’s World Cup champions as well as the total prize money it offers all women’s teams that compete.

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On 7/8/2019 at 11:45 PM, Pato del Muerto said:

So would giving the men’s and women’s teams an equal % of tournament payout be considered equal pay?  Or does it need to be equal dollars?

Those yelling loudest will not be satisfied until the dollars are equal (or better) in TOTAL.

On 7/10/2019 at 8:49 PM, Rimbo said:

I disagree that the women should be paid the same as the men.

They should be paid more than the men.

When the men's team wins a World Cup, then they can get paid the same as the women.

Is there any relationship between pay and revenue in your world?

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Men's soccer should just throw in the towel. 

Cut all of the extra benefits, professional soccer salaries and retirement bonuses (401K, health care, child care etc).  Pay them the exact same rate per appearance (game and training) as the men and nothing else.  Pay an equal percentage of the bonus money acquired from FIFA.  Then split ad and distribution sales and pay them what they are worth = what someone is willing to pay, not feelings.

Problem is that would actually make it equal, but that is not what this is about.

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Right.  They don't want Equal Pay, the want Equal Money(Dollar for Dollar).


If their deals were exactly the same, and they got the same % of money they earn, the Women would come out behind, and they'd still be upset.

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On 7/12/2019 at 6:45 PM, Patricio Swayze said:

Ok, immamac, please delete this comment if it violates rules, but this was the most relevant topic. English team’s leaked photos.

http:// https://www.sourcecodegh.net/post/breaking-england-women-s-football-team-rocked-with-leaked-nude-pictures

You did the impossible, make soccer interesting.

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7 hours ago, hookem48 said:

You did the impossible, make soccer interesting.

Which brings us back to the thread’s title. 

QUESTION: How many people saw the thread title and immediately uttered the line from “Requiem For A Dream” that the thread was paraphrased from?

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