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14 minutes ago, Zavala said:

The president committed treason multiple times? Surely you could explain how exactly in a short paragraph? Give me the absolute worst and most treasonous thing he did. 

Also, your Democrat candidate pick is pretty soft lol - can you narrow it down to one or two?

yes. and not only treason. his attorney michael cohen is in fucking federal prison for fucking fraud at trump's direction.

during the 2016 election his campaign clearly coordinated with russia about the timing of released emails.

recently, he tried to coordinate with ukraine to help him in an attempt to influence the 2020 election.

and hell, that doesn't even get into all the obstruction of justice his administration has implemented.

i mean, shit you know all that. you know how many people in trump's orbit have gone to prison. he is a criminal. there's is no denial of any of it. and i do not see you denying anything. i see you asking questions. that's the tactic of a "i'm not a supporter of trump, but i'll go to great lengths to hand wave away his despicable behavior, because it triggers the libs, lol" partisan.

as far as the democratic (man, i bet you think you're really clever with the "democrat" langauge, but you're really tipping your partisan hand again) candidate, i think most not named tom steyer and pete buttigieg will beat trump, and even those two have a chance. 2018 is a fairly good indication to me that people will come out to vote against trump, much like people came out to vote against hillary in 2016.

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Impeachment wasn’t ever about getting the senate to remove Trump. There was never a chance 2/3 of the senate would vote to remove. This was always about increasing the chance trump is removed in the 2020 election and the Dems winning the senate. 

This trial in the senate along with any new evidence and witness testimony will keep trump’s crimes and abuses front and center for the public for a time. It has potential to sway the 2020 election. 

We aren’t trying to sway trumpkins. We are trying to sway independents and fringe republicans.

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the articles have been signed by the speaker, and will be delivered by the managers to the senate momentarily.

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this is all so incredibly formal. the managers with the house clerk and sergeant at arms walking straight across the capitol to deliver the articles to the senate.

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4 minutes ago, FondrenRoad said:

Did McConnell forget to put his dentures in today?

They got knocked loose while he was sucking Trump's dick.  

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i guess this should feel momentous and historical...but it feels like it's just going to be a farce. the lines are so defined, everybody in the country knows what the outcome will be. 

i know it needed to be done to make this mark on history. but other than that, what's the point? 

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58 minutes ago, hayden_horn said:

yes. and not only treason. his attorney michael cohen is in fucking federal prison for fucking fraud at trump's direction.

during the 2016 election his campaign clearly coordinated with russia about the timing of released emails.

recently, he tried to coordinate with ukraine to help him in an attempt to influence the 2020 election.

and hell, that doesn't even get into all the obstruction of justice his administration has implemented.

i mean, shit you know all that. you know how many people in trump's orbit have gone to prison. he is a criminal. there's is no denial of any of it. and i do not see you denying anything. i see you asking questions. that's the tactic of a "i'm not a supporter of trump, but i'll go to great lengths to hand wave away his despicable behavior, because it triggers the libs, lol" partisan.

as far as the democratic (man, i bet you think you're really clever with the "democrat" langauge, but you're really tipping your partisan hand again) candidate, i think most not named tom steyer and pete buttigieg will beat trump, and even those two have a chance. 2018 is a fairly good indication to me that people will come out to vote against trump, much like people came out to vote against hillary in 2016.

not to forget witness tampering and intimidation

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3 minutes ago, Longhornfan1024 said:

They got knocked loose while he was sucking Trump's dick.  

he may have forgot to put them back in because trump's tootsie roll dick isn't knocking anything loose

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Just now, mchookem said:

i guess this should feel momentous and historical...but it feels like it's just going to be a farce. the lines are so defined, everybody in the country knows what the outcome will be. 

i know it needed to be done to make this mark on history. but other than that, what's the point? 

It's gonna be shut down before it starts.  

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2 minutes ago, mchookem said:

i guess this should feel momentous and historical...but it feels like it's just going to be a farce. the lines are so defined, everybody in the country knows what the outcome will be. 

i know it needed to be done to make this mark on history. but other than that, what's the point? 

That there were citizens who put country before Party and remembered the Oath they took.

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11 minutes ago, FondrenRoad said:

Did McConnell forget to put his dentures in today?

He's embarking on an historic betrayal of his oath to the Constitution. He should speak clearly. 

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1 minute ago, WhatTheBuck said:

He's embarking on an historic betrayal of his oath to the Constitution. He should speak clearly. 

He embarked on his betrayal in 1985. What he is doing now is finishing up the work he started 35 years ago. 

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1 hour ago, hayden_horn said:

yes. and not only treason. his attorney michael cohen is in fucking federal prison for fucking fraud at trump's direction.

recently, he tried to coordinate with ukraine to help him in an attempt to influence the 2020 election.

and hell, that doesn't even get into all the obstruction of justice his administration has implemented.

i mean, shit you know all that. you know how many people in trump's orbit have gone to prison. he is a criminal. there's is no denial of any of it. and i do not see you denying anything. i see you asking questions. that's the tactic of a "i'm not a supporter of trump, but i'll go to great lengths to hand wave away his despicable behavior, because it triggers the libs, lol" partisan.

as far as the democratic (man, i bet you think you're really clever with the "democrat" langauge, but you're really tipping your partisan hand again) candidate, i think most not named tom steyer and pete buttigieg will beat trump, and even those two have a chance. 2018 is a fairly good indication to me that people will come out to vote against trump, much like people came out to vote against hillary in 2016.

Again, you can't keep it to the one single worst thing explained simply in one paragraph like I asked. I cut the bit that starts to answer my question.

"during the 2016 election his campaign clearly coordinated with russia about the timing of released emails."

Clearly? You mean Trump directed someone on his campaign to coordinate with WikiLeaks, who you presume is Russia? Where's the evidence of that if it's so clear? None was ever presented.

No evidence of how wiki leaks got the emails. No evidence that WikiLeaks is Russia, and no evidence that Trump told anyone to "coordinate" with them, whatever that means. The entire Russia hacking story was based on a draft report written by the DNCs consultant, crowdstrike. No one at the FBI ever got a server to analyze.

Anyway, keep it up, the more press the Democrats get, the more idiotic they look. Here's their solemn and serious expression at finally signing impeachment articles lol

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What a show

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2 minutes ago, Zavala said:

Again, you can't keep it to the one single worst thing explained simply in one paragraph like I asked. I cut the bit that starts to answer my question.

"during the 2016 election his campaign clearly coordinated with russia about the timing of released emails."

Clearly? You mean Trump directed someone on his campaign to coordinate with WikiLeaks, who you presume is Russia? Where's the evidence of that if it's so clear? None was ever presented.

No evidence of how wiki leaks got the emails. No evidence that WikiLeaks is Russia, and no evidence that Trump told anyone to "coordinate" with them, whatever that means. The entire Russia hacking story was based on a draft report written by the DNCs consultant, crowdstrike. No one at the FBI ever got a server to analyze.

Anyway, keep it up, the more press the Democrats get, the more idiotic they look. Here's their solemn and serious expression at finally signing impeachment articles lol

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What a show

Ok comrade boomer.

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4 hours ago, hayden_horn said:

this is my biggest struggle. even amash saw the light on this president. but mcconnell is playing the long game for the judiciary, i get that. also, he is blatantly corrupt, as is his wife. but why cannot some of the other republican senators get some religion?

the only conclusion i can come up with is that they all bathe in that dark russian nra campaign money, and they have no choice but to go along with trump or be unmasked as being as nakedly corrupt as the president.

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This whole process is a sham and a mockery and a mockery of a sham.

There is absolutely no evidence. The Dems are just mean ol' haters!

 

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See how hard I work while the terrorist loving Dems do nothing! WITCHHUNT! 

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Thank you for joining our six hours of news analysis here on CNN.

We have experts to explain this to you in terms you can understand. 

Take it away, Wolf!

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Live shot of the non Trumpist American Electorate somehow undecided about all of this.

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The liberal cabal circle jerk at Surly.

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Surly Gary Johnson voters finding a way to back Trump without backing Trump

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The ledge crew. Brisket in charge: Decorum! Decorum.

and last of all, Lady Liberty...

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2 minutes ago, FondrenRoad said:

Ok comrade boomer.

Yikes!

I'm 32, how old are you meme master?

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13 minutes ago, Zavala said:

Again, you can't keep it to the one single worst thing explained simply in one paragraph like I asked. I cut the bit that starts to answer my question.

"during the 2016 election his campaign clearly coordinated with russia about the timing of released emails."

Clearly? You mean Trump directed someone on his campaign to coordinate with WikiLeaks, who you presume is Russia? Where's the evidence of that if it's so clear? None was ever presented.

No evidence of how wiki leaks got the emails. No evidence that WikiLeaks is Russia, and no evidence that Trump told anyone to "coordinate" with them, whatever that means. The entire Russia hacking story was based on a draft report written by the DNCs consultant, crowdstrike. No one at the FBI ever got a server to analyze.

Anyway, keep it up, the more press the Democrats get, the more idiotic they look. Here's their solemn and serious expression at finally signing impeachment articles lol

 

What a show

more hand waving. and of course, it's inaccurate, and i suppose i could call you an outright liar. but then maybe it's possible you just wrap yourself in the stench of your own farts, and choose to ignore facts that go against your narrative.

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Roger Stone: Convicted of obstruction, giving false statements to a House committee and witness tampering. He also lied to Congress about his efforts to learn more about when WikiLeaks would publish damaging emails about 2016 Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton.

https://www.axios.com/trump-associates-convicted-mueller-investigations-206295a1-5abc-4573-be25-4da19d9adcc9.html

i'm sure trump had no idea what stone was doing.

and i noticed that you did not address his campaign finance fraud to cover up for two different extra marital sexual affairs, one to a famous pornstar while his wife was nursing his youngest son, nor did you address the obvious criminal activity regarding ukraine election interference, which we have in plain old writing:

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parnas is coming. and he's willing to talk. that is not going to be good for trump.

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oh, and you also neglected to address all the various obstruction the administration has implemented. these are all bad facts for the president.

your president is a criminal. 

but whoo boy, you got me with that jab about the libs!

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2 hours ago, DDD Dad said:

She's warming up her brow for some deep furrowing before she votes to acquit.

So are we going to get an hour long explanation why she’s not voting for witnesses? She’s so 2 faced. I really hope she loses big in her re-election. 

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5 hours ago, Bookman said:

The fix is in.

GOP Senators = Big 12 refs ??

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23 minutes ago, Horn Dog said:

GOP Senators = Big 12 refs ??

Worse than that. Dems are the Washington Generals in this scenario.

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[mention=218]hayden_horn[/mention] you have a lot more negging to do in this thread if you are going to be fair.

Negged.

Happy?

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49 minutes ago, zork said:

@hayden_horn you have a lot more negging to do in this thread if you are going to be fair.

To be fair, Zavala is also a troll on the football board where I’ve seen him admonished by Trump supporters, who occasionally post here in the CR, for shit posting and trolling Texas over there.

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36 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

Barr is guilty as hell but I’ll guess he’s smart enough not to get caught 

Yes. I am looking forward to seeing who will play him if Lin-Manual Miranda writes the musical.

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Why was McConnell wearing a pin stripe suit today during his stupid ass speech like he’s some 1920s rum running gangster?

Oh yeah. Stupid question. 

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3 hours ago, mchookem said:

I know it needed to be done to make this mark on history. but other than that, what's the point? 

Last attempt at keeping Trump from getting re-elected? Unemployment is at record lows, markets at record highs. All wages increasing, but at the highest rates at the lowest levels of income. If you can’t point to impeachment, all you can point to is orange man bad; and with the current cast of democrat presidential candidates - that ain’t a recipe for victory.  Over 40% of the American public wanted him impeached before he even had this call with Ukraine. Nancy herself said they had been working on this for two years. This was always going to happen with a majority democratic house. 

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3 hours ago, Longhornfan1024 said:

They got knocked loose while he was sucking Trump's dick.  

I should neg you for the image in my head, but I won’t.

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4 minutes ago, Enchubben said:

Last attempt at keeping Trump from getting re-elected? Unemployment is at record lows, markets at record highs. All wages increasing, but at the highest rates at the lowest levels of income. If you can’t point to impeachment, all you can point to is orange man bad; and with the current cast of democrat presidential candidates - that ain’t a recipe for victory.  Over 40% of the American public wanted him impeached before he even had this call with Ukraine. Nancy herself said they had been working on this for two years. This was always going to happen with a majority democratic house. 

It was always going to happen with a majority democrat house because the president is a criminal who is using the power of the Oval Office to support his criminal ways.  You support or at least pretend to support a criminal. Duh.

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5 minutes ago, Enchubben said:

Last attempt at keeping Trump from getting re-elected? Unemployment is at record lows, markets at record highs. All wages increasing, but at the highest rates at the lowest levels of income. If you can’t point to impeachment, all you can point to is orange man bad; and with the current cast of democrat presidential candidates - that ain’t a recipe for victory.  Over 40% of the American public wanted him impeached before he even had this call with Ukraine. Nancy herself said they had been working on this for two years. This was always going to happen with a majority democratic house. 

You would think he'd be the favorite to win in November. But he's terrible at his job and completely corrupt, so . . . 

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1 minute ago, David Dennison said:

You would think he'd be the favorite to win in November. But he's terrible at his job, so . . . 

I’d be a bit more worried about re-election if they hadn’t started this impeachment clown show. The great thing is we get to see if Tom Herman and Donald Trump will still be in their current positions in less than a year.

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6 minutes ago, JimmyJames said:

It was always going to happen with a majority democrat house because the president is a criminal who is using the power of the Oval Office to support his criminal ways.  You support or at least pretend to support a criminal. Duh.

In the fantasy world of guilty until proven innocent, sure. Thankfully the house did a stand up job of putting together a substantiated, airtight case to send to the Senate. I’m sure it has the bipartisan support that the Speaker said an impeachment would require less than a year ago.

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7 minutes ago, Enchubben said:

In the fantasy world of guilty until proven innocent, sure. Thankfully the house did a stand up job of putting together a substantiated, airtight case to send to the Senate. I’m sure it has the bipartisan support that the Speaker said an impeachment would require less than a year ago.

It doesn’t and wont have bipartisan support because the Republican Party that you support or pretend to anyway is a criminal organization beholding to the dark money from the Russians, criminals, etc. that supports them. The criminals you support gave the speaker no choice by blatantly flaunting their criminal behavior. Duh. 

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6 hours ago, Zavala said:

DAMN YOU RUSSIA!

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Troll posting 101. Just post a pic, meme or GIF to say something you are too stupid to articulate and your audience is either too stupid to understand or if not too stupid to understand, will just get annoyed by it. 

Frankly posting a pic, meme or GIF like this one should be an automatic banning offense, no matter what the politics are, because it clearly has no other intention than to troll the entire board and isn’t even funny. 

We all know Zavala is a worthless troll. Hell he even knows it. Its actually a testament to this board that he’s allowed to continue his trolling nonsense. 

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3 hours ago, Zavala said:

Yikes!

I'm 32, how old are you meme master?

That's actually worse. I can understand the olds getting brainwashed with bullshit online propaganda, they grew up in a different time, without the internet.

 

A person of that age? You'd have to be a fucking retard.

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5 minutes ago, Pam Cummings said:

That's actually worse. I can understand the olds getting brainwashed with bullshit online propaganda, they grew up in a different time, without the internet.

 

A person of that age? You'd have to be a fucking retard.

Please do not use the word retard. 

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34 minutes ago, Pam Cummings said:

That's actually worse. I can understand the olds getting brainwashed with bullshit online propaganda, they grew up in a different time, without the internet.

 

A person of that age? You'd have to be a fucking retard.

Why is this surprising? Zavala, like a significant minority of America's youth, grew up in suburban American where it's 90% white. No real exposure to anyone different than himself. The internet educated him as much as the schools did. 

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28 minutes ago, hayden_horn said:

Please do not use the word retard. 

Props

4 hours ago, hayden_horn said:

more hand waving. and of course, it's inaccurate, and i suppose i could call you an outright liar. but then maybe it's possible you just wrap yourself in the stench of your own farts, and choose to ignore facts that go against your narrative.

https://www.axios.com/trump-associates-convicted-mueller-investigations-206295a1-5abc-4573-be25-4da19d9adcc9.html

i'm sure trump had no idea what stone was doing.

and i noticed that you did not address his campaign finance fraud to cover up for two different extra marital sexual affairs, one to a famous pornstar while his wife was nursing his youngest son, nor did you address the obvious criminal activity regarding ukraine election interference, which we have in plain old writing:

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parnas is coming. and he's willing to talk. that is not going to be good for trump.

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oh, and you also neglected to address all the various obstruction the administration has implemented. these are all bad facts for the president.

your president is a criminal. 

but whoo boy, you got me with that jab about the libs!

Ok, like I said, if what he did was so bad, keep it to that one thing and explain. You said Trump Russia, and your explanation is Roger Stone was convinced of lying to Congress? That's it? The link shows a few other people convinced of bank fraud and lying about shit? Where's the evidence that Trump committed treason and he's Putin's puppet and Russia hacked the DNC? None of it exists, it's just shit repeated by the msm to get eyeballs. 

Please share if you got anything else, that link was underwhelming.

Richard Pinedo: The California man was sentenced to six months in prison in Oct. 2018 for selling bank account numbers to Russians who engaged in election interference. He has no known connection to Trump.

We should go argue on the Flynn thread, I'm sure that one is getting interesting

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The president committed treason multiple times? Surely you could explain how exactly in a short paragraph? Give me the absolute worst and most treasonous thing he did. 
Also, your Democrat candidate pick is pretty soft lol - can you narrow it down to one or two?

No, he can’t. Not to you, you treasonous piece of shit. It is like talking to my dog. If you are too dim or partisan or drunk to have been paying attention since 2016, no amount of facts stated here will sway you. You were referred to the Mueller report. You then gave the brain dead mouth breather password - none of the facts matter because you disbelieve every news source your Trump God says is bad. You simply do not have the brain power to discern motive and nuance, and so bereft of critical thinking skills, reject the totality of the mountain of evidence, using ‘Deep State’ to discredit our intelligence and State and Justice Departments, and ‘Fake News’ to dismiss any source that provides evidence of his crimes.

‘What evidence’ you have the nerve to ask ? Go fuck yourself Ivan. Again, read the actual Mueller report, not Barr’s whitewash interpretation. Better yet, have some smart person read it and tell you what it means. If you truly ARE that stupid - in January of 2020 - there are no arguments to be made here that will convince you. May you and yours be rendered sterile until your seed is extinguished from the planet.

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7 minutes ago, Foosters said:

Why is this surprising? Zavala, like a significant minority of America's youth, grew up in suburban American where it's 90% white. No real exposure to anyone different than himself. The internet educated him as much as the schools did. 

Wrong, I grew up in a school on the Texas coast with about 40% white, 30% Hispanic, 20% black, and 10% Asian or so at my high school. Your assumptions on race always give away your feelings about race. Exposure to different views is more important than exposure to different races. Race isn't everything.

I married a Native American/Hispanic btw, so I guess I'm a failure in my Nazi Klan group.

Also got quite a bit of exposure at Texas, but I'm sure you will be quick to dismiss me as a liar about that too 

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1 minute ago, Gatorubet said:


No, he can’t. Not to you, you treasonous piece of shit. It is like talking to my dog. If you are too dim or partisan or drunk to have been paying attention since 2016, no amount of facts stated here will sway you. You were referred to the Mueller report. You then gave the brain dead mouth breather password - none of the facts matter because you disbelieve every news source your Trump God says is bad. You simply do not have the brain power to discern motive and nuance, and so bereft of critical thinking skills, reject the totality of the mountain of evidence, using ‘Deep State’ to discredit our intelligence and State and Justice Departments, and ‘Fake News’ to dismiss any source that provides evidence of his crimes.

‘What evidence’ you have the nerve to ask ? Go fuck yourself Ivan. Again, read the actual Mueller report, not Barr’s whitewash interpretation. Better yet, have some smart person read it and tell you what it means. If you truly ARE that stupid - in January of 2020 - there are no arguments to be made here that will convince you. May you and yours be rendered sterile until your seed is extinguished from the planet.

Lol now I'm a treasonous piece of shit and a dog?

Yikes!

Yeah that Mueller report layed it all out there, what "it" was again? Just one paragraph summary - what did Trump do that was treasonous and what is the evidence?

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1 minute ago, Biff Tannen said:

I think he’s just asking questions guys. 

You know what they say, curiosity killed the KKKat.

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29 minutes ago, Zavala said:

Wrong, I grew up in a school on the Texas coast with about 40% white, 30% Hispanic, 20% black, and 10% Asian or so at my high school. Your assumptions on race always give away your feelings about race. Exposure to different views is more important than exposure to different races. Race isn't everything.

I married a Native American/Hispanic btw, so I guess I'm a failure in my Nazi Klan group.

Also got quite a bit of exposure at Texas, but I'm sure you will be quick to dismiss me as a liar about that too 

Sorry, I was way off.

How does your wife feel about you being a racist and all?

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2 hours ago, Enchubben said:

Last attempt at keeping Trump from getting re-elected? Unemployment is at record lows, markets at record highs. All wages increasing, but at the highest rates at the lowest levels of income. If you can’t point to impeachment, all you can point to is orange man bad; and with the current cast of democrat presidential candidates - that ain’t a recipe for victory.  Over 40% of the American public wanted him impeached before he even had this call with Ukraine. Nancy herself said they had been working on this for two years. This was always going to happen with a majority democratic house. 

Clinton got impeached for lying about getting a blowjob. 

Trump got impeached for a lot worse. I'm sure you want to believe that wages for running a weedeater and flipping burgers going up a little because they can't find anyone willing to do it at minimum wage is going to make the soccer moms forget all about why they gave the House to the Democrats, but it is whistling past the graveyard.

That's cool though. You keep reading your unskewed polling. 

Blowjob<extortion 

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7 minutes ago, Foosters said:

Sorry, I was way off.

How does your wife feel about you being a racist and all?

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Man you spend a lot of time mind reading your political opponents. Ever get the feeling you are just, wrong?

How does that make you feel calling anyone who disagrees with you a racist?

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