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6 minutes ago, Telegraph_it said:

Acreage is a beautiful thing. Especially now, even if it’s just a couple. 

What, you don’t have 1200 acres and two ranches?

On the other parts I actually agree with Sack for once...my wife stocks a confidential food pantry and has to talk to CPS at an alarming rate.  And a dozen or so kids have just completely vanished with no responses from parents via call, email or text message.  
 

I understand hesitancy but with vaccines being fully available by mid-summer there are no excuses to give the option for remote learning starting next school year.  

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1 hour ago, Johnny Sack said:

It’s not hurting our demographic as much as it is poor kids.  
 

My kids spent much of quarantine on a 12000 acre ranch in south Texas.   There they can play with their 12 cousins or we go to our other ranch near Houston or plenty of other amazing places with their friends vacation places.  They’re fine. Plus we are private and have been in school since first week of September.  Been doing sleepovers and socializing with others since may
 

Three million kids have dropped off school radars and have abandoned learning.  Plenty others rely on school for food or to be the first and only reporter of abuse. 
 

There was no reason not to have schools open in September.  

Sack, I think you are a fine poster, fall on your side of lots of the political shit, but is a borderline troll post.  While most of the kids from the demographics on this site will be fine, there’s not a “we” in your statement past love for UT.   There’s exactly 2 posters here that have 17-20m worth of land to jet off to. To be honest, this whole Covid/school situation shouldn’t concern your kids at all.  Let’s say this whole thing scarred them, and turned them into complete unintelligent worthless people (it won’t). They could each draw 150k annually for their entire lives by leasing only your deer rights.  So while not ideal, the kids would be fine.   This was a torbush level post, even though I agree with your actual post. 

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1 hour ago, Homercles said:

There’s a lot of truth to this and both being married into the elementary education world + having a kid working through it, my sample size is not necessarily representative of the world at large.  Also I’ve worked from home on a semi-regular basis for years, either when I had no necessity via meetings to be there or just not feeling like wasting the hour of commute time. 
 

But I’m not managing small children for my job, which I could never do...I’m just not wired that way and admire those who are.  I think that there some teachers who enjoy educating young ones but not managing them in a group setting.  So yes they may have gotten a taste of the best-of-both-worlds wherein they can teach + get paid while not having to deal with children directly, and are trying to keep it that way. 
 

My problem is both professional and selfish...I am not nearly as productive at work when my 1st grader needs help/meals/bored/etc + I recharge my parenting batteries during the week by having a calm, quiet house where I’m not hearing ‘daddy’ or ‘I want’ every few minutes.  
 

Besides there are no work hours for me anymore...I dabble during the weekend, get stuff done in the evenings, or whatever else is necessary...so I get unnaturally pissy when I hear teachers complain about the hours or grading homework at the elementary level, when the kids are dismissed at 3p + 4-days off for Presidents’ Day + regular staff days + asynchronous days, etc because I have to take up the slack figuring out how I can get my work done while managing my kiddos.  

of course there is a lot of truth in this because that is exactly what is going on(along with trying to get more money for stuff).  Taxes go to pay for their work.  we pay them to be in school and engaged with the students.  I'm not saying it isn't work(wife did it for a few years and then we had kids).  It is and it can be very time consuming, probably not fun much of the time. On the flip side, it has some good benefits of pensions, summers, staff days, health care which MANY small private businesses and workers don't have. 

If it was such a crappy job, and they were wanted elsewhere, a ton of them would quit.  Its a job, everyone would rather not work(or at least work when they want to or dream of what they'd rather be doing).  There is a mental toll for those that really do care(and I know there are many because I have seen them) in that many have to play parent to the child. Ideally that should be left to the administrators at the school more than the teacher but that's a much broader discussion.

They absolutely should have been full in school starting February.

 

 

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1 hour ago, fattyflattie said:

Sack, I think you are a fine poster, fall on your side of lots of the political shit, but is a borderline troll post.  While most of the kids from the demographics on this site will be fine, there’s not a “we” in your statement past love for UT.   There’s exactly 2 posters here that have 17-20m worth of land to jet off to. To be honest, this whole Covid/school situation shouldn’t concern your kids at all.  Let’s say this whole thing scarred them, and turned them into complete unintelligent worthless people (it won’t). They could each draw 150k annually for their entire lives by leasing only your deer rights.  So while not ideal, the kids would be fine.   This was a torbush level post, even though I agree with your actual post. 

My point is what is being done to poor kids is a crime.  I feel like almost everyone who posts here is educated enough and has enough resources for their kids to be okay with a year of remote learning.  I’m assuming the demographics of a college football message board for the university of Texas is affluent.  Compared to most. 
 

And there was no reason for school not to be in person since September.  Kids were used as pawns.  

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12 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

My point is what is being done to poor kids is a crime.  I feel like almost everyone who posts here is educated enough and has enough resources for their kids to be okay with a year of remote learning.  I’m assuming the demographics of a college football message board for the university of Texas is affluent.  Compared to most.  

I agreed with your post.  And I wasn’t taking a dig on you; apologies if it felt that way. 
 

We did the homeschool route this year and the kids have done great. Outstanding actually, and it sucks because we will have to go back to regular (god willing) next year.  But it took work. ALOT of work on our end to get them there. Hopefully it will be a small blip for most, but with the challenges public education already faces, I can see some potential for long term effects on some.  Mine were just the right age that they could keep each other entertained, and replaced a lot of our sports time/community time with more family time at the lease/on the boat (where it’s typically more a solo thing for me). Talking with other parents that stayed/forced to stay in class we got pretty far ahead.  But we took it very serious, kept a tight schedule, etc.   

eta: I don’t know the parameters of the word affluent, but check the stimmy thread.  There are a lot of people here who are doing ok but you’d be surprised. 

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So the governor of Ohio just laid out the goalline. He has a defined metric of cases per day over a period of time. When that gets below a certain number, he's opening the state all the way up. No masks, 100% open.

Issues with accuracy of reporting on cases aside, I really like that approach. No moving targets, but a common goal to work towards with a clear endpoint. Wish most states would do that. It's clear, easy to understand, and provides incentive for people to get vaccinated and make this last push.

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My point is what is being done to poor kids is a crime.  I feel like almost everyone who posts here is educated enough and has enough resources for their kids to be okay with a year of remote learning.  I’m assuming the demographics of a college football message board for the university of Texas is affluent.  Compared to most. 
 
And there was no reason for school not to be in person since September.  Kids were used as pawns.  


Yes, that's exactly why you told us all about your 2 south Texas ranches, including grandma's 1200 ace spread. Because you're worried about poor kids.
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54 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

When the data are in, the excess number of  children and adolescents committing suicide likely far surpass those dying from COVID.  But more talk about ranch sizes please.  

This might be the bourbon, but you mean more adolescent suicide deaths than adolescent covid deaths right? Not total all covid deaths right?

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5 hours ago, babysdaddy said:

 

 


Is this the CDC saying masks are not relevant to preventing spread?

 

Not that is not what the headline said, or what the actual study said. 
 

Community mitigation measures can help reduce the transmission of SARS-CoV-2. In this study, mask mandates were associated with reductions in COVID-19 case and death growth rates within 20 days, whereas allowing on-premises dining at restaurants was associated with increases in COVID-19 case and death growth rates after 40 days. With the emergence of more transmissible COVID-19 variants, community mitigation measures are increasingly important as part of a larger strategy to decrease exposure to and reduce transmission of SARS-CoV-2 (3,4). Community mitigation policies, such as state-issued mask mandates and prohibition of on-premises restaurant dining, have the potential to slow the spread of COVID-19, especially if implemented with other public health strategies (1,10)

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9 hours ago, Homercles said:

What, you don’t have 1200 acres and two ranches?

It’s 12000.

1 hour ago, Chewbacca said:

Yes, that's exactly why you told us all about your 2 south Texas ranches, including grandma's 1200 ace spread. Because you're worried about poor kids.

It’s 12000.

1 hour ago, dingleberryswitzer said:

I call 1200 acres  my “front yard”.

It’s 12000.

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13 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

So I guess this is a strike basically 

 

Is it possible to kick California out of the US? Stop using kids as pawns.  I’m sure the union will hold the state government accountable to keep paying teachers to stay at home. 

I agree with the person above that said a lot of people have gotten to really enjoy remote work and some workers are just riding the gravy train for as long as possible and don’t want to go back to the office for the 9-5er. Hell, I’m one of them. I’ve found myself to be more productive at home than sitting in traffic for 2 hours a day. I waste 22 days a year of my life sitting in my vehicle to go to an office of 4 people total. My company is downsizing their office space when our lease is up and will be doing a more work from home type arrangement where we’ll go in once a week or so. It’s all about accountability. 

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On 3/5/2021 at 7:29 PM, GRHorn said:

Idk why they aren’t following the science and doing their job to the fullest. This tweet was linked in another thread. Spells out expert opinion pretty clearly. 

I think this tweet from Sf makes explains why it’s political at least in CA

 

I think that’s a bit of a leap but a teacher’s strike is political. The only cover for teachers like this is from POTUS. 

The issue is that we haven't flattened the curve

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Is it possible to kick California out of the US? Stop using kids as pawns.  I’m sure the union will hold the state government accountable to keep paying teachers to stay at home. 
I agree with the person above that said a lot of people have gotten to really enjoy remote work and some workers are just riding the gravy train for as long as possible and don’t want to go back to the office for the 9-5er. Hell, I’m one of them. I’ve found myself to be more productive at home than sitting in traffic for 2 hours a day. I waste 22 days a year of my life sitting in my vehicle to go to an office of 4 people total. My company is downsizing their office space when our lease is up and will be doing a more work from home type arrangement where we’ll go in once a week or so. It’s all about accountability. 

22 days? Fuck your life man, lol. I hyperventilate if I need to stay at a light for more than 1 cycle
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58 minutes ago, Doc Reeves said:

Someone my wife’s know since childhood just died this morning from Covid. Took 4 days. That brings the total people we’ve known die up to six with 3 more in the hospital not looking great. 

so glad I got vaxed

Holy shit, you knew SIX people who died of covid?

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Wife and I have had three blood relatives (closes ones, not third cousins twice removed kinda shit) die of Covid-19 in the last 13 months. 

Got the vaccine #1 on Thursday, happy hour with clients on Friday (masked between drinks, outside), was at a restaurant yesterday (masked between courses, outside), daughter is going back to Kinder tomorrow, and we're going back-country camping for Spring Break.  I don't give a fuck about myself, but I have that weird Christian propensity about caring for other people.  It's bizarre, I know.  

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1 hour ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:


22 days? Fuck your life man, lol. I hyperventilate if I need to stay at a light for more than 1 cycle

An hour commute each way 5 days a week. That comes out to 22 days per year. Not uncommon at all. I’ve been to the office 10 times in the last year though.

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An hour commute each way 5 days a week. That comes out to 22 days per year. Not uncommon at all. I’ve been to the office 10 times in the last year though.

I mean commute is one thing, 30 min there and back if the traffic is flowing. I don’t think I could handle at least an hours worth of sitting in a traffic jam a day
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47 minutes ago, Lobo said:

Got the vaccine #1 on Thursday, happy hour with clients on Friday (masked between drinks, outside), was at a restaurant yesterday (masked between courses, outside)

How many seconds between last bite or drink and masking? You are playing a dangerous game outside and all 🙃

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1 hour ago, Telegraph_it said:

How many seconds between last bite or drink and masking? You are playing a dangerous game outside and all 🙃

I do wonder what our "new normal" is going to be after all mitigation measures have expired (whether it's this year or next) and how we will be able to relate to each other going forward.

Anytime someone coughs or sneezes in close quarters, 70% of the population gonna be like - 

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2 hours ago, Telegraph_it said:

How many seconds between last bite or drink and masking? You are playing a dangerous game outside and all 🙃

It's all good. He gave it 24 hours for the vaccine to kick in.

 

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We had a birthday party yesterday in our backyard. About 50 people, probably 20 adults, 30 kids. Bounce house, someone brought reptiles to show. No masks. It was great. Covid is a nice, convenient excuse for not having people in the house. 

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5 hours ago, Doc Reeves said:

Someone my wife’s know since childhood just died this morning from Covid. Took 4 days. That brings the total people we’ve known die up to six with 3 more in the hospital not looking great. 

so glad I got vaxed

That’s insane. I know of 2 people that had it. Maybe a third (never tested +).   Wow. 

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1 hour ago, Deej said:

It's all good. He gave it 24 hours for the vaccine to kick in.

 

Nope, been going to places of business and meeting LP's on patios for several months.  Just taking serious measures when I go.  This binary thinking is indicative of our political polarization as well.  I don't gather in groups indoors, ain't that fucking hard.  Lots of places to drink besides people's living rooms and tiny bars. 

"I'm worried about getting Covid, and spreading Covid-19 to vulnerable people if I have it."

He's living in fear!  He wants business shut down!  Probably a socialist!  

"I think we're too tense on Covid-19, probably should relax restrictions."

He doesn't care about others, wants to kill the olds!  Probably a Qanon anti-vaxxer to booot.

Most people were mostly stupid about Covid-19.  Most people are mostly stupid about most things.  The last two years finally opened my eyes to what was wrong with this country.  Stupid people forgot their place and the rest of us are going to have to pay the price.  Somebody must've inspired them.

 

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18 hours ago, GRHorn said:

We had a birthday party yesterday in our backyard. About 50 people, probably 20 adults, 30 kids. Bounce house, someone brought reptiles to show. No masks. It was great. Covid is a nice, convenient excuse for not having people in the house. 

RIP, brother.

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Get yer shots people: https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/08/cdc-issues-new-guidance-for-people-who-are-vaccinated-against-covid-.html

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  • People who are fully vaccinated can safely visit with other vaccinated people indoors without wearing a mask or social distancing, the agency said.
  • Vaccinated people can visit unvaccinated people without masks or social distancing as long as the unvaccinated person is at low risk for severe disease.

 

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  • People who are fully vaccinated can safely visit with other vaccinated people indoors without wearing a mask or social distancing, the agency said.

Gee thanks CDC!!! Just sitting here waiting for your okay!!

 

 

What I'm really saying is Fuck You CDC (not Crystal Conte, I know what thread I'm on).

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