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  1. Considering it is sung to the tune of "I've Been Working on the Railroad", shouldn't the Chinese students be the ones with the problem?
    35 points
  2. yeah, i'm still not on board. as far as i can tell nobody here had even heard of this fact until just now. i mean, who exactly has the song been hurting? the answer of course is 'nobody'. in fact, it's a decades old tradition that has been about unity and togetherness, often shared together by 100,000+ people of all types races, religions, and ethnicities. for decades the song has brought people together and been one of the hallmark traditions of the University of Texas, and has been hurting/negatively affecting exactly no one. but we now find out that the guy who wrote it was a racist and suddenly we need to get rid of this time honored tradition that's been a right of passage for both and fans and players for generations? no, i can't get on board with that. its misguided and gratuitous. everything else they've asked for makes sense, but this request is too big an ask for too insignificant a reason.
    28 points
  3. I don't like some if the demands but I'm not a black athlete representing the University of Texas. I don't know what it's like to deal with the fucked up system that they've grown up under. Fuck it, it's another opportunity to live up to the motto and change the fucking world. Either UTexas is part of the solution or it's part of the problem. We're asking cops to hold each other accountable. Time for institutions of higher learning to do the same.
    25 points
  4. Collegiate athletes actually realizing and leveraging the power they have is a pretty awesome thing to see IMO
    24 points
  5. If the Eyes had racists lyrics, I could understand and support. But just because it used to be performed in minstrel shows? Fuck that. It is no longer performed in minstrel shows. The song wasnt the racist part. It was the minstrel show. The required change has been made. I support educating people on its origins but we can't take something that is not racist on its own and then take its origin out of context, apply today's morals and norms, and condemn it. There is not a racist word in the Eyes. It doesnt have a racist meaning. It is a unifying message for ALL Texans. The origin is important to know and understand but is in no way shape or form associated with or related to the current version, meaning, or performance of the song.
    23 points
  6. all of those assholes were cheating. he beat the shit out of everyone on the planet for 7 years on a level playing field.
    22 points
  7. The equal opportunity of Texas is upon you. Only during pre-approved working hours The equal opportunity of Texas is upon you, You can opt in or opt out. You do not have any obligation, at any hour of the day. The equal opportunity of Texas is upon you, till you choose what works best for you.
    21 points
  8. I was always under the impression that the song was mocking the school president at the time. It was satire. The fact that the guys singing it were in blackface to me seems besides the point. It's like throwing out the declaration of independence because Jefferson owned slaves. All men being created equal of course. We are confusing the messenger with the message. And if our black student athletes are offended by that, then I can still respect that opinion. I'm not black. I'm not qualified to say what they should be offended by. I do know however, that I'm 50 years old and still get chills singing the eyes in the cotton bowl after beating Oklahoma's ass. I sang it at my commencement. That song has great meaning for me. I never once knew about any sort of racist history or association with it. I'd be disappointed if it went away but I get it.
    20 points
  9. Okay. Here's the link to the actual local news story Mr. Ngo took clips from to misconstrue the situation. That quote from the police chief is referring to response times to that general part of the city because the precinct is closed, and, undoubtedly, they have slowed. But she was not referring to the CHAZ as a place where rapes and murders are happening. Also, unmentioned by Ngo, is that the reporter in that story also is showing video of the cops reoccupying the precinct station and mentions that the protesters are allowing them in there. So, yeah, the YouTube clip is total bullshit. Just watch the unedited, original story and it's not nearly the sinister chaotic scene shown above. And, as a matter of fact, the video does make the zone look #insanelychill. It's a short newsclip, and the contrast between the portrayal of the situation is stark. https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/chief-best-says-response-times-now-three-times-longer-east-precinct/DTHBLRXE6ZG2NBCSK7HJP6OSHA/ @GRHornDo your fucking work to verify the shit you post. Edit: By posting this, you have revoked your right to ever complain about "media bias" ever again. Because that was flat out disinformation and propaganda.
    18 points
  10. I think you have a very wrong read on this. The players are doing EXACTLY what Tom Herman told them to do. To use their voice and to not "just talk about it but be about it". There isn't a head coach in the country that has handled this better than Herman. I know, It stuns me, as well. This is part of what Herman wants his guys to do. I sent a message to @texifornia about this very early on, but this isn't a locker room in turmoil, it's 100% the opposite. It's not just the Texas players that his stance and his honesty on the subject are resonating with — it’s current players elsewhere, recruits, trainers, families. This will lead to positive change for UT. It's being driven and given voice by the players.
    17 points
  11. Since when, 2 days ago? I've never heard of it being a point of contention among athletes at UT.
    17 points
  12. I was about to lose my shit, but then I saw he said respect his decision, so rats
    16 points
  13. I've always thought the eyes of texas was lame as a school song because of the obvious ripoff of I've been working on the railroad. However, a lot of folks seem to be taking the Gordon twitter vid claiming that the song was a "minstrel song" sung for many years at minstrel shows as given. It was written primarily for the purpose of giving the university a school song and secondarily to poke fun at the UT president. It debuted publicly (by coincidence of timing) at a student-led minstrel show fundraiser for the track team, but we have no idea (at least to my knowledge) if the band members playing it were in black face. It quickly became the school song and was played by the band in marches around campus, not as part of minstrel shows. I'd like some of Gordon's sourcing for that claim. Regardless, this should be an opportunity for research, discussion, and perspective, not for "git rid of the song because twitters says it's racist." That's so 2020.
    15 points
  14. If they’re seriously discussing getting rid of “Eyes” then I’m in support of just shutting the entire program down. This fake activist bs is getting tired.
    15 points
  15. This is the students’ opportunity to drive the culture of the university where they choose. We all had our time. This is theirs. Good luck, kids.
    13 points
  16. I was thinking. Imagine if there was this massive terrorist organization, spread out all over the US. These terrorists are killing 1000 people a day, and they target old people, like your grandparents. And they kill them in awful, painful ways. Every day, 1000 painfully murdered. I'm thinking, after about a day of that we'd put 100% of our resources into eradicating them, immediately. But a virus? Where we can save the lives of thousands just by wearing a fucking mask? Eh, too much trouble. Later grandma.
    13 points
  17. For a bunch of LARP'ing kids? Nah. The mayor and governor don't care, so I'm going to follow their lead. You can't help but laugh at the situation. They found land that they wanted, so they just took it. They have defined borders, border walls, and armed agents who question people seeking entry. They are denying entry to those they deem undesirable. Basically, they're just about everything they'd claim to despise.
    13 points
  18. Melania Trump is a prostitute.
    13 points
  19. First they came for the fascists, and EMAWesome was like, what the fuck?
    13 points
  20. I say FUCK Robert Lee Moore Hall, even before knowing about the racist man behind its name. Many, many a miserable hour spent in that shithole.
    12 points
  21. Some of these requests are honestly really enlightening. How am I just now learning that I spent the majority of my undergraduate career in a building named after a dude who refused to teach black people? Racism[edit] Moore's record as a teacher of mathematics has been tarnished by his attitude towards black students, which modern sources have called racist.[3][4] Most of Moore's career was spent in a racially segregated part of the United States. African-American students were prohibited from even enrolling at the University of Texas until the late 1950s,[5] and Moore himself was strongly in favor of segregation.[6][7][8][9] After the University of Texas began admitting African-American students, he refused to allow them into his classes, even for mathematics graduate students such as Vivienne Malone-Mayes.[3][4][7][8] He told another African-American mathematics student, Walker E. Hunt, "you are welcome to take my course but you start with a C and can only go down from there".[9] On one occasion he walked out of a talk by a student, his academic grandchild, after discovering that the speaker was African-American.[4][7][8]
    12 points
  22. Is that your defense for posting bullshit? No "mea culpa." No "I should vet my sources better." You just decide to defend the bullshit you post by blaming biases you perceive in media. CNN is not the shitstain here, you are. Own up. Republicans claiming to be the party of personal responsibility is almost as absurd as them claiming to be fiscal conservative or Christian.
    12 points
  23. You snowflake whiny bitch. I've tried to engage you on several occasions to understand your point and you do not reply. Your limited utility here is to randomly post videos to other people who think for you. Not everyone is going to agree with your shitty points. You may not have noticed, but society is tired of letting shit heels like you have your opinion blasted out while the good people remain silent. If you can't defend your position, that's not anyone else's issue. Get a thicker skin, listen, learn, get yourself out of your media/opinion bubble on YouTube.
    12 points
  24. Look it’s real simple here guys. I, as a white male, am not offended by my racist school song. But I AM offended that other people are offended. I mean until today I didn’t even know it was racist. What am I supposed to do, take the time to learn about racism?!? I mean, why can’t a bunch of unpaid black players suck it up and sing my special football Texas stalking song in front of thousands of white fans? It’s the only time my dad and I have any real emotional connection. OK! What’s next? Thomas Jefferson? George Washington? Stephen F Austin? Grandpappy? You’re telling me I need to face the troubling racist elements that goes all the way back to the founding of this country? What am I supposed to do? Look to find common ground, bridge the gap and heal old wounds. Even make small sacrifices to build a better country and quit kicking this can down the road. I don’t think so. No special blackface football song. No America.
    11 points
  25. I’m all for renaming the buildings. I hate the idea of a percentage of revenue going to BLM or any far left or far right political organizations. Getting rid of the song is overkill. America and pretty much the entire world has some form of racism in its past. It’s terrible but getting rid of a song because it had a similar lyric to a song sung at Washington & Lee? When does it stop? Jeans outlawed because they are made of cotton and that Has racial undertones? Dumb. Again fake activists smelling blood in the water and capitalizing on outrage.
    11 points
  26. Honestly, and this isn't a mad reaction or anything, but.... shouldn't the players, if they feel this way about the university's history, just walk off the campus and go play somewhere else less raycess?
    11 points
  27. a long long way to go...
    11 points
  28. So I guess this is where I am. I fundamentally don't understand the argument. It was originally performed at a minstrel show. That there were minstrel shows at The University is regrettable, but not at all surprising. But the song itself lacks any racial content or implications. And knowing the broader history of the lyrics, it's hard to infer any racist undertones. The "you" upon whom the Eyes of Texas are were the white students who were expected to go out and succeed. But people can reasonably disagree with me. And I think that if they're not comfortable singing the song, then they should have to. It's Austin--do whatever the fuck you want. The cynic in me thinks that's exactly what this is. And the fact is that their other demands are broadly reasonable (though there may be a constitutional problem with The University donating money to any private organization). But having a building named for Robert Lee Moore is as much of an abomination as the building's architecture.
    10 points
  29. So you're telling me a non-racist song that was introduced at a racist event is interpreted as being racist. A song that unifies people. But many of those who find that song offensive listen to music that uses "the N word" and use "the N word" in conversation with their colleagues. A word that divides people. Hmmmmmm.
    10 points
  30. I represented a woman who had made such a purchase. The husband complained about the purchase. I made him explain to the jury why he didn’t like the purchase of boobs. For about an hour I talked about boobs and compelled opposing counsel and a judge, both women, to talk about boobs to 12 jurors. Bikini pics were put in evidence and published to the jury on a big tv. In the end everyone had to agree with me that the boobs were a desired addition to the community estate. The judge was amused. So, yeah, complicated sometimes, but it was resolved that boobs were things people liked, and getting more is desirable.
    10 points
  31. I'm fine with all of this as long as my demand for the players are met: WRAP UP YOUR FUCKING TACKLES. Thank you.
    10 points
  32. Why? Because the student athletes are finally realizing their worth to the university and making demands for a more just world for them, their families, and friends? Does UT hold itself to a higher standard or doesn't it? Is the motto "What starts here changes the world" just lip service or does it really live by that credo?
    10 points
  33. who give a squirt of piss what LSU does and we as a university and culture of texas exas should not, in any way, aim to measure ourselves by the standards of such a 4th rate university
    10 points
  34. 10 points
  35. Now all they need to do is declare war on America and start killing people and then in 150 years NASCAR drivers will quit when told that they can't fly the CHAZ flag.
    10 points
  36. All Americans need to make this a movement:
    10 points
  37. The players should have every right to not sing the song. Their choice and free country. The University is not a football team. Millions of students, faculty and professors came before this group of football players. Their voices should not be silenced for a football team. Take a vote through the long horn foundation and current students. Majority rules. By their definition, the Star Spangled Banner should also not be sung as it was created during slavery and sang at segregated venues. Most of the other demands are somewhat reasonable and debatable. As for “donations”, keep it local and on point. Have the university start a funding and mentoring program with professors and current students that seeks to help our states lowest performing schools. Supplies, textbooks, training, student internships etc. Create more scholarships, endowments and grants for these communities and students. Be a leader in Texas public education. Use the money directly to help Texas communities, not a national fundraising arm.
    9 points
  38. We call this “The Satyanash Scenario”.
    9 points
  39. What's next the Star Spangled Banner? The country was founded on slavery and most didnt think that song included slaves as being free. So what, let's shut down the whole country and most of its traditions? Some things go too far and are fucking stupid. I'm all for speaking against social injustices and support those causes, today. But The Eyes of Texas and not singing the song imo isn't one of them and is fucking stupid. I suppose if you don't want to sing it than fine don't make them, but fuck you if you want to replace it. Sorry but i've never paid much attention to the opinion of most 18-25 year olds. This request is one reason why.
    9 points
  40. I love it when these ads let him speak for himself.
    9 points
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