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Reading that story a little more carefully, I'm not sure it's wholly accurate.

The AUSA said the other day it was "his understanding" that the second indictment was not presented to the full grand jury.

In a written filing, they worded it a bit more "cagily."

Also, before we get too excited about this resulting in dismissal of all charges (there are several other things that could have that result), there's a case that some have trumpeted as being on point.  Many years ago, the DC grand juries weren't presented with indictments, just the evidence and "returned" a piece of paper saying they true-billed or no-billed a charge of a crime, ie wire fraud or perjury or whatever.  The US Attorney then prepared an actual indictment in the form we see that was never actually passed on by the grand jury.

The DC Circuit ruled that that did not satisfy Rule 6 and the requirement that the grand jury be presented with and pass upon an indictment.  It requires an actual indictment, and the indictment that is filed to commence a criminal case.  It also held that that was harmless error in that case, so no harm no foul.

That means that the government will probably continue to be embarrassed and debase itself on Comey's other motions.

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13 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Halligan and the Department of Jesters reverse course:

https://abcnews.go.com/US/doj-halligan-slam-judge-comey-case-hearing/story?id=127709589

The second indictment was now presented to the full grand jury.  

Which creates a problem because there's no transcript of that.

Fucking clown show.

Also, Halligan & Co. lying in public about a "rogue judge."

On Wednesday standing in court they told the truth, with the truth being potentially catastrophic for them. So on Thursday they file a brief lying in the hopes of holding of the catastrophic failure and in a development no one could have seen coming, smeared the Judge by issuing statements contrary to the actual record; you know, lying. Again. 

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This is all over Comey saying five years ago "I stand by my previous statement", correct? 

When you consider the amount of lies that have been spewed the past 10 years, as well as the testimony before Congress of these shitheads in office, it's just fucking amazing. 

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1 minute ago, Red Five said:

This is all over Comey saying five years ago "I stand by my previous statement", correct? 

When you consider the amount of lies that have been spewed the past 10 years, as well as the testimony before Congress of these shitheads in office, it's just fucking amazing. 

Yep.  

There's a good argument that that statement is literally true, unless it could somehow be proven that Comey didn't "stand by" his previous testimony.  The government wants to treat that as repeating false testimony that was outside limitations within limitations.

But it's going to be hard for the government to prove his 2017 testimony was false.

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25 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Reading that story a little more carefully, I'm not sure it's wholly accurate.

The AUSA said the other day it was "his understanding" that the second indictment was not presented to the full grand jury.

In a written filing, they worded it a bit more "cagily."

Also, before we get too excited about this resulting in dismissal of all charges (there are several other things that could have that result), there's a case that some have trumpeted as being on point.  Many years ago, the DC grand juries weren't presented with indictments, just the evidence and "returned" a piece of paper saying they true-billed or no-billed a charge of a crime, ie wire fraud or perjury or whatever.  The US Attorney then prepared an actual indictment in the form we see that was never actually passed on by the grand jury.

The DC Circuit ruled that that did not satisfy Rule 6 and the requirement that the grand jury be presented with and pass upon an indictment.  It requires an actual indictment, and the indictment that is filed to commence a criminal case.  It also held that that was harmless error in that case, so no harm no foul.

That means that the government will probably continue to be embarrassed and debase itself on Comey's other motions.

Comey played fuck around and find out games. He really could’ve derailed all this chaos bullshit early, but chose instead to publicly announce their Clinton’s email investigation.  Fuck him, albeit the enemy of my enemy and so forth.

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1 minute ago, Mdhorn said:

Comey played fuck around and find out games. He really could’ve derailed all this chaos bullshit early, but chose instead to publicly announce their Clinton’s email investigation.  Fuck him, albeit the enemy of my enemy and so forth.

Comey's a dick, no question about it.

But, there are two, mostly unrelated, things driving Trump's animus.  One is a failure to indict Hildawg for "butter emails," which wasn't Comey's call in the first place and should never have been.  But I think the real animus here is Russia, Russia, Russia.  And Comey's criticism of him.  And both of those ignore the huge favor Comey did by going public with the WIener shit.

This is a pretty good piece from Lawfare.  https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/comey--james--and--animus-through-a-megaphone

Although its primary topic is vindictive prosecution, it goes into some detail about the quality of the charges notwithstanding animus, particularly as relates to Letitia James.

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6 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Comey's a dick, no question about it.

But, there are two, mostly unrelated, things driving Trump's animus.  One is a failure to indict Hildawg for "butter emails," which wasn't Comey's call in the first place and should never have been.  But I think the real animus here is Russia, Russia, Russia.  And Comey's criticism of him.  And both of those ignore the huge favor Comey did by going public with the WIener shit.

This is a pretty good piece from Lawfare.  https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/comey--james--and--animus-through-a-megaphone

Although its primary topic is vindictive prosecution, it goes into some detail about the quality of the charges notwithstanding animus, particularly as relates to Letitia James.

My understanding is regardless of all the sexual rape charges, Epstein island ties, real estate fraud, tax fraud, fraud fraud, tyranny, whatever, turnips biggest fear is all the Russian connections. 

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8 minutes ago, Mdhorn said:

My understanding is regardless of all the sexual rape charges, Epstein island ties, real estate fraud, tax fraud, fraud fraud, tyranny, whatever, turnips biggest fear is all the Russian connections. 

He still reminds us unprompted almost daily of the "Russia hoax". 

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1 minute ago, Mdhorn said:

My understanding is all the sexual rape charges, Epstein island ties, real estate fraud, tax fraud, fraud fraud, tyranny, whatever, turnips biggest fear is all the Russian connections. 

The thing that's infuriating about all that is that it is clear that Russia has done many things to promote Trump and American discord, with or without Trump's knowledge or consent (it was with but will probably never be proven).

The Carter Page thing was a huge fuckup, but well within FBI apolitical shittiness norms (like most LEO, their zeal to get their man often results in civil rights violations, at best).  And the Steele Dossier is a massive red herring.

Unfortunately, those two things provide just enough taint to give Trump talking, or screaming, points.

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James Comey played a far more substantive role in influencing the outcome of the 2016 election, and certainly the aftermath, than any jerkoff for Jesus or hildawg arm wresting satan memes did. 

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53 minutes ago, Mdhorn said:

My understanding is regardless of all the sexual rape charges, Epstein island ties, real estate fraud, tax fraud, fraud fraud, tyranny, whatever, turnips biggest fear is all the Russian connections. 

The fact that he is promoting a peace plan for Ukraine written by Russia speaks volumes.  



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